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Mobs + water bugs

I hit a confusing mix of mob and water bugs today.

Colliding with mobs in boats is known to sometimes be fatal. Happened to me again today, but this time I was pretty much stationary, and I think a tame wolf either fell on me from a height of about 4 blocks, or rammed me. To narrow down the bug, I need to try ramming various mobs that haven't been in the water for very long, ramming mobs that have swum a considerable distance, and ramming at high speed, or ramming an injured mob, and seeing which combos are fatal.

Tamed animals (cats and wolves) seem either to arrive sitting when they teleport, or sit when they get to land. Background: I had a house on a small island in the ocean biome. I think the island may have been too small, because none of my six newly-tamed or bred cats and two pet wolves would teleport to me there even after I'd had enough time to go home and sleep there overnight. So I set off in a boat and led them there, me in the boat, them swimming, and pushing me along so that none of them got left behind. We passed a small island on the way back, and several of the animals sat down when they got to it, without me telling them to.

At this point I had to fight a skeleton, which injured me then was attacked and distracted by a wolf. It hit the wolf several times, then I killed the skeleton, then I reboarded my boat, then it appears a wolf (probably the injured one) killed me either by falling on me, ramming me, or surfacing from underneath. The other alternative is that I bumped into a nearby land overhang at the wrong point, but something in that sequence triggered the 'insta-kill if you're in a boat and something touches you' bug, and I'm not sure what. Being touched by a damaged wolf? Re-boarding a boat then getting touched? Being fallen on? I'm logging it now before I forget the sequence.

I think i know what happened, cats and dogs wont teleport if you are the chunks they are on if they are unloaded, they also wont teleport if you are in water more than one block deep. So, i recommend that occasionally when traveling over oceans to make small islands so your pets will teleport to you. I don't know about that glitch that killed you. 68.2.171.84 02:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


I think that rodents (maybe tameable ones such as rats and hamsters) which could be aggressive in the wild, but friendly when tamed.68.2.171.84 17:27, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Re: Biome tables

http://i.imgur.com/D0J0T.jpg

The above is how both look to me. What I was saying is I think there should be a solution for both instead of one or the other. On my screen, it looks oddly empty and such. --MegaScience 20:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Gosh, that is a big screen. Hmm. Try this:

Name Description Features Sample
Forest A biome with a lot of trees, occasional hills and a fair amount of tall grass. Oak and birch trees grow in this biome. Mushrooms, tall grass, roses and flowers can occasionally be found. Forests can occasionally be generated as a technical biome in plains biomes. Chickens, pigs, wolves, and cows can spawn here. Oak and Birch Trees, Grass, Flowers, Tall Grass. 1.8 Biomes MixedForest
Desert A barren biome consisting mostly of sand, large dunes, dead bushes and cacti, just like a real desert. Rain never falls in this biome. Sugar Cane can be found next to pools of water. It has been claimed that more hostile mobs like zombies and skeletons spawn in the desert than in any other biome; whether or not that is true, the lack of visual obstruction and contrast against the light-colored sand make them very easy to see at night. NPC Villages will often spawn, Desert Wells and Pyramids are found exclusively in this biome. Few animals spawn here. Sand, Cacti, Dead Bushes, Sandstone, Sugar Cane. File:2012-02-01 16.26.19.png
That looks okay. I wish there was a simple way to adjust these things on a wiki, make it more dynamic for the screen. Width adjusting per user on images would require adjustments in the code, at least CSS. And as a wiki with constant edits, that could get ugly so it wouldn't be done. But again, that seems to work for me. --MegaScience 20:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Updating Map article

Simon, next time you do something like this, you need to move the old info to the History section. Also, you shouldn't be adding snapshot changes into the main section. These new changes should be in a Future section to prevent current users of the full release from confusing new features with the current ones.

So can you re-add the current features and also add summarized changes from the previous update to the History since you were the one who initiated the page update? Thanks --M0rphzone(talk) (*How to remove sidebar*) 19:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Creeper Handling

Specially for featherwinglove...

About me

My own playing style is a sort of self-imposed hardcore mode. I don't play hardcore, but when I die I randomly teleport to a new location and start again from scratch in the existing world. With time, I expect to gradually start coming across my own old building works, probably long after I've forgotten about making them in the first place. But this does mean getting caught out just once could be game over for that particular Steve, so I do have a strong incentive to have anti-creeper methods that work.

As far as my average survival time goes, I almost always last long enough to get a full set of iron armour, and am usually collecting my first diamonds when I finally get careless and get caught out. In hard mode, a full suit of iron armour is simply not enough to ensure safety against creepers. The latest Steve did a lot of village trading for diamond goods, and is the best armoured I have managed yet. He has the best chance of long-term survival I've achieved to date.

Creeper areas

Three areas where one needs to worry about them; above ground and below, and in the short time period after a transition between the two. Somewhat different techniques are usable in these cases.

Sleep regularly

Carry a bed with you at all tims and sleep regularly the moment is starts getting dark. While creepers survive during the day, just as for other mobs they only spawn in darkness, so the less darkness there is in your world, the fewer creepers.

Use caution after caving

If you've been caving, you probably worked through the night several times, possibly without realising. That increases the probablility that there will be more creepers than usual about when you surface. Keep your guard up for at least one full surface day after you've been down below, longer if your home biome is a forest or jungle.

Clear and light up your regular haunts

Make sure you have good sightlines around your usual areas by clearing back cover. These areas are 'home', and your guard will tend to be down a bit. Just the time for a creeper to catch you out.

Kill untamed passive mobs

Set up farms for the animals you do want to keep, and then be willing to kill any wild animals you find. It's a fallacy to think that because you heard an 'oink', that means the creature moving nearby is a pig, because creepers can and do move through herds of passive mobs without disturbing them in any way. In other words, just because you heard an 'oink' doesn't mean there isn't a creeper nearby as well, moving up under cover of those non-threating pig-noises. Particularly for any hardcore mode player, you have to check constantly, and you absolutely cannot assume that any movement nearby is a passive mob.

Carry a knockback sword

A knockback sword does double duty; it will knock a creeper away, drastically reducing the damage it does if it does explode, and it can still be used for parrying. If you are out specifically hunting for mobs, then there may be other better mob-killing swords, but if you are just out and about, and want the sword for defence, the knockback sword is the best choice. Besides, when you're out hunting your guard is up, and you're much less likely to get caught by surprise anyway.

Wear enchanted armour

Enchanted diamond armour with explosion resistance is vital to survival. I have not yet experimented with whether it's worth enchanting iron armour to tide you over until you have a full set of diamond equipment.

Carry emergency blocks

If you fall down a hole into a dark area, immediately surround yourself with a fort of emergency blocks. Then take stock, checking your damage and healing if necessary, and making temporary peep-holes in the fort walls to see what's around you, and pick off any nearby mobs one by one. Be careful about trying to pillar out of danger, because if there's a skeleton around it may knock you off the pillar, and you may even fall further, taking more damage.

Keep your food bar full

In safe terrain this is less critical, but in dangerous terrain always keep you food bar topped up or close to it so that you can heal promptly.

Carry healing supplies

I use a few golden apples (the cheap ones). A few seconds of regeneration restores several hearts of health, and usually tops up the hunger bar as well. That gives a quick boost to your hearts, and then you can usually afford to wait for natural healing to do the rest.

Creepers underground

Underground, something moving about without hissing, clanking or groaning probably is a creeper, and you should assume the worst. If it does turn out to be a passive mob that has fallen down a cave, it would be safest to kill it to avoid false alarms.

Falling creepers

Do not linger in any area where creepers could fall on you. When exploring an unlit chasm, a quick foray and then a retreat to a safe shelter is the least dangerous approch. Use the forays to place a few lights and perhaps the occasional barrier across the chasm to block mobs' movement. If you can't access an area to light it up, assume it's infested. If you want to stay a bit longer in a dangerous area, build a shelter that completely surrounds you while you work.

Exploit the despawn mechanics

A safer way to cave is to make brief forays into dark areas and place a flurry of torches, then retreat and listen. If all remains clear, advance again into the newly lit areas and place barriers. Then go somewhere else for a while, giving mobs in that area time to despawn. When you revisit later, the area will be much safer and you can explore it more thoroughly.

Place regular barriers

Put fences with gates throughout your mines. This gives you an area to retreat to, and once behind a fence you know mobs can only approach you from one direction rather than two or more. This makes it much easier to guard against them.

Take up archery

Minecraft has bows and arrows and means of obtaining them, I would advise that the player take up archery sooner rather than later, as no creeper can blow up if it is outranged by the player. Along with this, the player should train themselves to hunt hostile mobs as the best defense against any hostile mob attack is to be hunting for them long before they have time to lock onto you. I have hunted at night several times now, and the most common if not most effective defense I have so far found is to climb up to a high vantage point on the top of a hill where there is little or no land behind the player and there is a large body of water or impassable terrain blocking mob movement. The only other thing I would suggest is to prefer hills where jumping is required, as mobs cannot jump, this effectively blocks their pathfinding to the player, the one caveat to this is that it is a lot less effective against skeletons unless you jump high enough up a hill to be out of range of the height limit of their arrow trajectories. BrickVoid 05:27, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

User:Simons Mith/Roofs

You tagged this for deletion, but its talk page has content. Did you want to move that elsewhere, deleted as well, or kept as-is? Kanegasi C 00:23, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

I'd already preserved the bits /I/ wanted from the talk page, and I've now C&P'd it to the Roof_types page anyway. So it's 100% safe to go. Thank you. 82.69.54.207 01:01, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

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