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About editing templates

I've taken the liberty of creating a basic talk page for you so that we can dialog to answer your question on the Talk:Tutorials page. (Article talk pages should only be used to discuss the article itself.) Be sure to add this page to your watchlist by clicking on the star tab at the top of the page, so you'll get a notification whenever somebody updates it. User talk pages are the best place to have a dialog with another editor when the discussion wouldn't interest other editors. The convention is for the initiator to create a new topic on the other editor's talk page, and the entire dialog occurs there rather than splitting the messages between their two talk pages. I will have this page on my watchlist, so when you update it I'll be notified automatically and can reply here.

By the way, you got your signature set up correctly, but you're still signing with ~~~~ and then adding your username. You don't need to add that; it's part of the generated signature. Look back at the Talk:Tutorials page, at the end of your entry, and you'll see what I mean.

So here's the scoop: Like almost anything else on the wiki, you don't need special permissions to edit most templates. However, it's important to understand that because templates are invoked from many article pages, a mistake in a template can have a wide-ranging effect on the wiki, so it's wise to be extra cautious when editing them.

First, I suggest you be comfortable with the concept of wiki namespaces. Namespaces are a wiki mechanic, so the place to look for information about them is the MediaWiki help system. (MediaWiki is the software that runs wikis everywhere.) The help page for namespaces is here. After that, it would be good to look at the help page for templates too, but don't worry about understanding all of that one just now since you'll only be adding links to the Tutorials template, not changing how it works.

Once you have the background, you can go ahead and edit the Template:Tutorials page to add your links. You can just copy and paste an existing link before or after where you want it to appear, then change the page name. Important: There's a difference in how templates are presented when you're viewing and editing them. When you're viewing them (like you would an article), what you see should be documentation on how the template is used, but when you hit the Edit button you'll see the actual content of the template instead. The content is what gets included in the pages that call the template, using the {{Tutorials}} syntax, so that's all you're really interested in right now.

Don't worry too much about making a mistake in this template, because even if you really mess it up you'll only affect tutorials pages and you can quickly undo your changes. (I'm assuming you know how to use the History tab to do that.) But if you're uneasy about it, it's possible to test template changes in a sandbox under your user page, where nothing else will be affected. I wouldn't bother with that until you want to change the logic of a template, as opposed to merely the content it includes. (Most editors never get to the stage of changing template logic, in fact.)

If you have any questions, just ask here. Later, after we've concluded this dialog, you can ask me on my talk page instead. Good luck! – Auldrick (talk · contribs) 04:15, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! I was able to add the new tutorial pages to the template with ease, and I can now keep the tutorial template up to date. (also, is my signature correct?)- Madminecrafter12 (talk) 14:46, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Glad I could help, and your signature is fine now. TTYL – Auldrick (talk · contribs) 02:23, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Deleting a talk post

TheRealBurningMoon, this is where we can talk about your problem about deleting a post on a talk page.--Orange Glazed TerracottaMadminecrafter12TalkContributions 16:50, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

As a reply to the comment on my profile page, you should be able to backspace the content even if you are a new user. What happens when you try to backspace the post? Also, is there a specific post you want to delete, cause if so, I could delete it myself.--Orange Glazed TerracottaMadminecrafter12TalkContributions 16:52, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Grid images

Please don't upload grid images as separat files. There is a module called InvSprite that is used for grid images. The individual files only work, because the old system is still in place, but it shouldn't be used anymore as the new module is by far easier to maintain. Also please upload potions without the enchantment glow. I have take care of this matter by now, but please remember this in the future. – Fuzs 17:28, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Fuzs, and thanks for letting me know. The reason for this was it seemed like all of these new features were being added as an inventory image, so I was just trying to help contribute to what the community was doing. However, I have looked all over the wiki but cannot find how to change the InvSprite image. That's good to know though - I'll stop uploading grid images.--Orange Glazed TerracottaMadminecrafter12TalkContributions 17:52, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Wanted pages

Hi! You seem to be the only one who's actively using the "wanted pages" section in the community portal lately. I just wanted to say, for any future requests, please check the German wiki first. All of your past requests were already completed there before you posted them, I just copied the images each time. But I don't think our readers should have to wait as long as for someone else to copy a file, you can easily do that by yourself and the missing images will be there instantly. – Fuzs 12:14, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Fuzs, wow, you're right! I never realized that the German wiki had so many more images. Thanks, that's great to know for the future.--Orange Glazed TerracottaMadminecrafter12TalkContributions 14:09, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, that's because I usually upload my work in my main wiki first. :D – Fuzs 14:14, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the help

I really appreciate your steer on page deletion, stub templates, etc. Super helpful of you. Spikezarkspike (talk) 19:48, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Glad I could help! If you need help with anything in the future, just let me know and I'll try to help in any way that I can. :) --Orange Glazed TerracottaMadminecrafter12TalkContributions 20:24, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
OK so taking you at your word... Mods. If I have a mod (a datapack actually) that relates to Desert Survival, can I post it on this forum somewhere (where?), and can I then link to it from the Desert Survival tutorial? Or is that not allowed? Thanks, Spikezarkspike (talk) 20:55, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
To be honest, I am not extremely familiar with this topic, but I can still help. I'm pretty sure each data pack available should not have its own page, because the many combinations available would just overload the wiki. However, I think it would be fine to mention about the data pack on the desert survival tutorial, as I've seen this on many other tutorials.--Orange Glazed Terracotta Madminecrafter12TC 21:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
OK thanks. So probably what I will do is put the datapack on github, and just link to it from a section at the end of the tutorial. And if there is a generic page for datapacks, I will also put the link there. Cheers! Spikezarkspike (talk) 21:17, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
I think what you did with the page in your last edit works fine. :) --Orange Glazed Terracotta Madminecrafter12TC 23:14, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Great, thanks! Spikezarkspike (talk) 23:19, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Contact

Hi, do you have Discord, Twitter, etc.? I'd like to talk to you about something regarding old versions of the game. ―HalfOfAKebab (talk, contribs) 18:42, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@HalfOfAKebab:Hey there, unfortunately no, I do not have Discord or Twitter. Could this thing regarding old game versions not be discussed via either of our talk pages, profile comments, or email? Also, I'm on Slack, so if you want to discuss it there that would work as well.--Orange Glazed Terracotta Madminecrafter12TC 19:17, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

loot table edit

Hi! What did it mess up? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 13:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I think I discovered the problem. The problem was that on the fish (food) page would say "there is no such item as cooked cod," but that's (obviously) because the loot chest item was cooked cod (duh, me)! I think I'm going to restore my edit and then very quickly change it on the fish food page. It would be nice if there were a simple way to find all pages using a certain parameter for LootChestItem (in this example it would be {{LootChestItem|cooked-cod}}. The only problem with changing cod to fish, like I was doing with my edit, would be for pages such as buried treasure, where it would say that raw fish (cooked fish, correction) generates in them, despite the fact that buried treasure chests only appear in snapshots after fish was renamed to cod. Still, I think it would be less confusing as a whole if cod were changed to fish.--Orange Glazed Terracotta Madminecrafter12TC 13:25, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Ok, that worked. Now the trick is finding all of the pages using the cooked-cod parameter.--Orange Glazed Terracotta Madminecrafter12TC 13:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Actually, now that I think about it, there may not be any other pages that use the cooked-cod parameter. If I happen to find one, though, I'll make sure to change it.--Orange Glazed Terracotta Madminecrafter12TC 13:29, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm almost 100% sure the only place LootChestItem is being used is in the Obtaining/Natural generation sections of the pages themselves, e.g. Fish in this case -- with one exception, which is that the armor pieces are in two places, e.g. helmet info appears on both the Armor and the Helmet pages.
Although, that's only where they're meant to go. Hm. Perhaps if there were another key within "cooked-fish" = { keys } like category=true, so that the script could put a category wherever that particular LootChestItem was being used. Should be simple enough to do? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 14:55, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Iceberg on Generated Structures

Hi! You had:

{{upcoming|Bedrock Edition 1.2.14}}{only|bedrock}}

The version that works is:

{{upcoming|ver=Bedrock Edition 1.2.14}}{{only|bedrock}}

Sealbudsman talk/contr 17:10, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I've fixed it now; but it's good to know that it's nothing wrong with the wiki - just me making very careless mistakes and not looking over my edits before submitting (that seems to very often be the case - I probably should have guessed... :) ).--Orange Glazed Terracotta Madminecrafter12TC 18:16, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Bedrock 1.3 is the Update Aquatic

If I understood well what's the point of 1.2.13 and 1.2.14, these two versions are released to fix bugs first, and allow iOS players to have "betas" through the Experimental Features option. Helen clearly said that 1.3 is the Aquatic Update. • Yanis48 (talk) 12:29, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! We've been discussing this at User talk:Ff98sha. Personally, I don't think there is anywhere that Helen clearly stated that 1.3 is the Update Aquatic, but this is possible. We had decided (admittedly, rather loosely), that until we hear otherwise, it would make the most sense to just assume that 1.2.13 and 1.2.14 are going to be released as their builds are, and once a developer has made it clear, "Although the builds are released as if they were going to be for 1.2.13 and 1.2.14, their full implementation will actually be in 1.3," then we will update the wiki for this. We've also pinged Helen to that discussion, but she hasn't replied to it. In my opinion, I think we should wait until it's a little bit clearer that 1.3 is the Update Aquatic, or Helen says "yes, the builds for 1.2.13 and 1.2.14 are actually for 1.3, and the released versions are just there for technical reasons." Cheers!-- Madminecrafter12Orange Glazed TerracottaTalk to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta 12:52, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Fact check

Tropical Fish Fact Check

On the Update Aquatic page, it says there's 3,072 varieties of tropical fish. That seems a little over-the-top, huh? Can you verify that? Twh minecrafter (talk) 00:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC)Twh_minecrafter

Hi there. I don't really think there's any need to verify it. If you look closer at the text, you'll notice that tropical fish come in 2 shapes, 16 colors, 6 patterns, and 16 pattern colors, which, when you do the math (multiply all 4 numbers together), works out to 3,072. That is quite a large number though! Hope this helps, and let me know if you have any other questions.-- Madminecrafter12Orange Glazed TerracottaTalk to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta 00:30, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Actually, apparently you were right - now the page has been changed, it's different now, and only 2,700 naturally occur.-- Madminecrafter12Orange Glazed TerracottaTalk to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta 01:19, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
2700 is accurate. They don't spawn in black, likely because black overlays the texture shading completely. So, for instance, you wouldn't be able to tell the eyes apart from the scales, which wouldn't look good. - Princess Nightmoon (TalkContributions) 01:35, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Twh minecrafter (talk) 14:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)Twh_minecrafter

Creating New Pages

Hey, if I want to create an entirely new page, how do I do that? Like, entirely new, not just one that's a broken redirect. Twh minecrafter (talk) 21:32, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

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