Talk: Kanegasi/archive4

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Question regarding talk pages

Hi there, I was wondering why all of you talk pages redirect to this page. My guess is so people don't write on those pages?? – Goandgoo ᐸ Talk
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Edit count 07:54, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

It's not really about the other pages, I just want one talk page. To me, it's pointless to keep track of several personal talk pages. Even if someone wants to make a topic about a specific page, I would rather have it here so it's with everything else. Think of one's userspace as its own wiki. Even though you sometimes talk about a specific page, if you are addressing the wiki as a whole, you want the community portal as a central location. Every post on my talk page should be addressing me (as a whole), so one central location is best. —Kanegasi ☺C 10:17, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand what you mean. Btw your user pages use font-family:Courier New. What other font families are there (is there a link which shows me all the possible font families)? – Goandgoo ᐸ Talk
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Edit count 12:45, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

w3c documentation for font-family and for list of fonts, if you use Windows, you can pull up the Character Map system accessory. There's also a Fonts folder in your control panel. —Kanegasi ☺C 12:54, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

http://w3fools.com/

See here for the actual w3c docs and see MDN for an actually good web dev reference. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk
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You know that feeling when you suddenly discover everything you know is wrong? ... Yeah... I thought they were w3c.

w3schools is usually the first result in Google too. It's like when Wowpedia started and Wowwiki still dominated the Google results. I still have a greasemonkey script installed that autocorrects Wowwiki links to Wowpedia. Thanks for the heads-up, ultradude25. —Kanegasi ☺C 14:29, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

They want people to think they're an official resource, and because they've spent so long building up their google ranks, it's basically impossible for useful sites to break past them. I wish google still allowed you to block results... they removed that in favour of a chrome extension, which is pretty lame. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk
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Can I make this page?

I've been looking around on talk pages of articles regarding world generation, and a few of them have requests for a page to list seeds. I almost forgot the most important part:

I BEAT A WORLD RECORD!!!!!!!!!!

×Meeples10× 13:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

No. There are plenty of resources for seeds that will always be more robust than whatever we can create, such as the forums for example. Plus, a list of seeds is so fluid, I don't believe a wiki is a good place to host one. —Kanegasi ☺C 18:12, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

OK. By the way, there is no wiki rule that says a user page can't list seeds, so I'll just make a user page anyone can edit. ×Meeples10× 20:07, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

That's perfectly acceptable. Your userspace is yours, provided that some rules are still followed. There's a note at the bottom of the rules page that lists them. —Kanegasi ☺C 20:10, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Catalan translation template

Hey, Kanegasi. I noticed you removed Template:Catalan. The point of it is to display the right name in Catalan on the crafting grid and link to the right '/ca' article at the same time. I hope you're ok with it if I recreate the template, as I've just finished with the list. Cupkle 22:47, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I see your point. I took the template's creation out of context and deleted it assuming it was going to be used alone. This is actually a neat idea and for now, it can stay as Template:Catalan, but if your intent works and it comes out as a neater way to translate, we should probably make it something like Template:Translate/ca or Template:Translatenames/ca so that other translation projects can use it as well in their grid templates. —Kanegasi ☺C 00:04, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for the support. I tried to move the template, but I messed up: I noticed the Move button right after I created 'Translate/ca', can you please delete it? Thanks! Cupkle 11:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Moved —Kanegasi ☺C 13:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Rules Revision 1

I'm still not completely sure what's the purpose of this page. Could you please explain it to me? Thanks –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk
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Edit count 02:36, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

When that page was created in February 2011, the current rule set was not much different from what we have now. That revision page was initially an edit copy of the rules and followed a slightly different path. The problem we have now is that since the current rules are linked in a ton of edit summaries, essentially codifying them, there can't be much of a change to the rule numbers. That page has been slowly tinkered with since 2011 and copying the current rule set into the page defeats the purpose of the edit copy. If you look on the talk page of the revision 1 page, Wynthyst points out that drastic changes won't really happen quickly and the rule numbers must stay the same. It's essentially a stale project, since I'm not sure much change will happen to the current rules. —Kanegasi ☺C 02:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

On a slightly related subject, could the code you told me about a while ago in regards to centering it be added to Project:Wiki Rules/Video policy? Thanks! -- Numbermaniac - T - C 08:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

That code would fit better on the style guide. —Kanegasi ☺C 17:50, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Hosting Providers using Multicraft

Hi, please add reptilehosting.com as hosting provider. tried to edit without luck. thanks --Cronoszeu 05:13, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Done —Kanegasi ☺C 16:11, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, could you please add Shockbyte (shockbyte.com) as hosting provider using Multicraft? Custom servers/Multicraft Thanks, Switchbladed 10:06, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Done —Kanegasi ☺C 22:17, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Template

You deleted {{MeepWelcome}} and moved it to my userspace. Is there any way I can use MeepWelcome}} and still get this? ×Meeples10× 17:46, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

{{subst:User:Meeples10/MeepWelcome}} I have also posted on your talk page. —Kanegasi ☺C 17:47, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Tanks :D ×Meeples10× 17:52, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Deleted edits: NaN?!

Why is it that, when I update the edit count, it sometimes changes the deleted edits count to "Not a Number"?! -- Numbermaniac - T - C 07:45, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

That was a bug I accidentally introduced last week. It should already be fixed. Make sure you are using the current version (107). —Kanegasi ☺C 18:04, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I was using 103. Why does it sometimes vary by device? -- Numbermaniac - T - C 05:59, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

wikipedia:Web cache WP:Bypass your cache —Kanegasi ☺C 06:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I know, but... oh wait never mind. Sorry. -- Numbermaniac - T - C 06:43, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

You don't have to be sorry lol. I figured linking both of those was the simplest way of explaining. Basically, each device has its own cache with its own version of contents at various dates of retrieval. —Kanegasi ☺C 07:08, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I figured it out in the end. I said sorry because I thought you were a bit mad with the edit summary of "...". -- Numbermaniac - T - C 08:30, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm never mad. I may get slightly annoyed now and then, or in this case, confused that the concept of a cache wasn't fully grasped, but never mad. There's extremely few triggers I have in person, but over the Internet, it's impossible. —Kanegasi ☺C 08:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok then. :D. -- Numbermaniac - T - C 08:57, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Bulk plural fix

Hi there, when I was scanning through the Recent Changes list, I realised that you bulk plural linked doors]] to door]]s. How did you do this?

On a side note, when I click on Recent changes on the sidebar, is there a way to make it so that it defaults to 500 entries? –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk
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Edit count 13:17, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I do it manually. I open all the pages that need fixing in a ton of tabs, and patiently fix each one. Then, after fixing, I set it up so that all I have to do is ctrl + tab through the tabs and hit enter to submit them. This is like the third or fourth plural deletion I've done so far and it was the biggest. I don't fix userspace links though. A lot of users still don't have a grasp on userspace etiquette where you should not edit a userspace that is not your own, with exception to spam, vandalism, other rarely broken userspace rules, and the owner of the space saying you can.

For the recent changes setting, see Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rc. —Kanegasi ☺C 19:26, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

It would be much faster and easier to use AWB to fix them automatically. If for some reason you can't or don't want to use AWB, I'd be happy to do it for you. — Hower64 03:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

But how do you use AWB on this wiki? -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 04:14, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Same as Wikipedia except you have to set it to point to minecraftwiki. Go Options -> Preferences then in the Site tab change the project to 'custom' and set the url to www.minecraftwiki.net/. — Hower64 06:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Huh, didn't know you could do that. Then again, I can't use it anyway. But that is cool. :D -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 06:35, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Anyone can use AWB on this wiki, even if you're not an admin. — Hower64 06:39, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh. Cool. It's just that I never downloaded it because I never had rights on Wikipedia. -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 06:45, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I have considered tinkering with AWB, but haven't gotten around to doing it. I have downloaded it and read the wikipedia page on it, but so far, I've been comfortable with manual editing. As for you fixing the plurals, you're more than welcome to, but I don't have any specific list or structure to getting them all fixed. I'm not exactly out searching for plural redirects, or any redirects that can be accomplished with that MW link function, I'm just kind of running into them and deciding to charge into it at that time. Doors was pretty interesting, seeing as that was created that way and was around long enough for a decent amount of links to saturate the wiki. —Kanegasi ☺C 05:22, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, cool :) — Hower64 06:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Item durability response

I used INVEdit.--Weather368 20:00, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

You used it for what? This does not explain anything. That is also a mod. Information obtained from a mod should be treated with skepticism. Do not change the numbers again on that page without providing better proof. —Kanegasi ☺C 05:22, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Questions

Is there a limit to the size of a page?
Is there a way to apply for admin?
Who made this wiki?
When did you become an admin?
How is revealing your IP dangerous?

×Meeples10× 01:53, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker):

Yes. I don't know exactly, but check User:1234567890Number. His went over the limit, hence two extension pages.
Not sure.
Same as above.
5 April, check #Welcome.
If a hacker visits this wiki and sees your IP address, they could easily hack it and implant some sort of malware into it.

-- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 01:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I mean that they could hack your computer. All they need is your ip. -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 02:02, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I was asking Kanegasi, because the last time I checked, you were not an admin. 216.81.100.188 02:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops. Forgot I wasn't logged in. ×Meeples10× 02:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Numbermaniac provided the answers he could, because the last time I checked, all talk pages are open to the community. Everybody has the right to post or reply to anyone on any talk page. As for your answers:

The default limit to a page is 2,048 kB. The LocalSettings.php file in a MediaWiki installation is not publically accessible, even to read, so I do not know if this wiki has a custom limit.
There is no formal process to apply for the sysop user right on this wiki. I was indirectly asked to become one back in December, but I turned the offer down over email due to my work-related schedule. I approached the subject again at the beginning of April and was approved. Wynthyst provides a great explanation above in the topic Numbermaniac linked as to why she accepted me.
User:Citricsquid and User:Quatroking started this wiki and the forums back in 2009. Curse came around about a year later.
Mentioned above.
Think of your IP as the digital equivalent to a Social Security Number (or other non-American government identity label) with your computer representing your identity. If your IP gets into the wrong hands, your computer can be at risk. It's not as destructive as someone having your SSN, but there are people out there that can do anything they want to almost any computer. If you use your computer purely for games, Internet surfing, and other random activities, it's not that bad, but if you're the average user that accesses your bank online or you have sensitive information regarding your life saved on your computer, rampaging around on the Internet linking your IP to yourself is like displaying your SSN on the top of your house with Christmas lights.

—Kanegasi ☺C 05:13, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

For more info on the wiki, see Minecraft Wiki:About. (I'm surprised no-one linked it above). –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk
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Edit count 05:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I was not aware of that page lol. I guess I knew enough about Minecraft and Mojang, and already being well aware of Curse and their activities, when I came to the wiki that I didn't snoop around too much. —Kanegasi ☺C 05:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

2048kB equals about 2097152 bytes, so how come 1234567890Number had to create a new extension after just 440,000 bytes? -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 06:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

As I said, that is the default MediaWiki setting. This wiki must have it set lower. —Kanegasi ☺C 06:51, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks. Also, is there a way to see the total amount of bytes that have used up on this wiki? -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 07:00, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki does not have the ability to monitor its database or installation size, only page sizes. The only way for us to know is if the Curse tech team tells us. —Kanegasi ☺C 07:28, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Regardless of the article size limit MediaWiki enforces, pages become unwieldy above around 200KB, taking too long to load and edit. There have been several complains about the length of Version history/Development versions, and that's only 272KB. -- Orthotope 08:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

My signature

How can I make my signature to this?

×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
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×Meeples10× 21:44, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Special:Preferences#Signature. By default, anything in that box is placed inside a userpage link: [[User:Your name|content of that box here]]. You need to check the box labeled "Treat signature as wikitext" in order to do anything else. I also fixed your signature by trimming technically unnecessary stuff to help with size, properly closing the format tags you used, and the image was slightly too big.

Ahh, I just noticed you tried to make a signature subpage. If you would like to have your signature code in a page rather than that box, put the following in that box exactly how I have it here: {{subst:User:Meeples10/Signature}} —Kanegasi ☺C 23:45, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I have absolutely no idea what the heck you just said. :\ ×Meeples10× 23:57, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Did you click the link I provided to your preferences page? There is also a link in the top right corner of every page that leads to your preferences. The first page you see when you get to your preferences has a signature box a little bit down the page. When you are there, re-read what I have stated. —Kanegasi ☺C 23:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh, that box! I tried entering that earlier, but it didn't work. I'll try again. ×Meeples10× 00:09, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Yay!

×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
Contribs 00:10, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

You need to close those tags. Either use the version I edited in the beginning of this topic or add at the end of the signature box. —Kanegasi ☺C 00:22, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Done.

×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
Contribs 11:11, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Font

Why is the default font now Times New Roman on some pages? ×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
Contribs 17:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean? Sometimes, the appearance of pages vary by device. Not all devices have the same fonts installed, so the browser sometimes substitutes the font for another when the one it wants isn't installed. -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 21:52, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

I am using my computer.
I mean, that earlier on this page on this section the font was Times New Roman. It's not like that anymore. ×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
Contribs 23:30, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The default font this wiki asks your browser to display is whatever you have set as a non-serif font. The font you are attempting to use in your signature is a serif font, so maybe your browser is forcing the rest of the page to display a serif font. This is just a guess though. It would help if you told us what browser you are using since it's not the wiki. —Kanegasi ☺C 23:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

That's because your signature in the previous section was missing closing tags, which made your font affect the rest of the page. -- Orthotope ^talk 00:14, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I thought he only posted once without closing tags earlier. I didn't see that one. —Kanegasi ☺C 00:25, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

No, he did it on my user talk page too, which I corrected with this edit. -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 08:02, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Template query

Hi, can you help me out with a template query?

I have been using the 'wip' template for some draft tutorials. This basically says 'please don't touch this at all, I'm working on it.' Could you tell which is the best template to use for 'this is a work in progress that needs input from other people? ' I have some tutorials on roofs, walls, and other basic construction which I want to move into the main user space, but as I do so I want to flag them as 'works in progress' but WIPs I'm asking others to help with. Thanks Simons Mith^{[82.69.54.207]} 23:41, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

We also have {{WipNeedHelp}} with {{wiphelp}} as a shortcut. —Kanegasi ☺C 23:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

User:Meeples10/70.181.68.226

Perhaps you know my question already, but was he allowed to do this? I know that people's userspaces are theirs, but I don't know whether this was appropriate. What do you think? Thanks. -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 08:49, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

As far as I know, there is no wiki etiquette that states someone isn't allowed to have a copy of someone else's userspace. The whole point of a wiki is the sharing and displaying of information and it is encouraged that people learn and use from others. There are special cases though, such as a user copying a userpage into their main userpage with intent to masquerade as them, which was the case for a user last month attempting to be ultradude25. In this case with the anonymous user, that page is nothing but Meeples10 helping the user out. If he copied it to his main userpage and then altered his signature to look like the user, then it's an issue. Now, I wouldn't go around and start a collection of userpages in your userspace. That would be weird. —Kanegasi ☺C 17:36, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Really? Who tried to copy ultradude25? Oh, and I just saw Hower63 and Hower65 in the creation log. -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 07:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Some user with a decent block history. Every single edit they have made, with some being within hours of a block expiring, was vandalism. —Kanegasi ☺C 07:47, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Wow. Morons. -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 07:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it would be really weird if someone made a collection of userpages in their userspace. It'd also be weird if someone paraded around the wiki, looking for IPs with talk pages and copying them onto their userspace so when the IPs make accounts, they could put it on the account's talk page. Now that would be unusual. --70.181.68.226 03:05, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

In that case, if you don't want that copy existing, I could delete it if you want. —Kanegasi ☺C 03:07, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

No, you don't need to delete it. I was just thinking about how odd it would be if someone had a whole collection of those. --70.181.68.226 03:29, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

edit count

Quick question, how did you and Goandgoo get the editcount/date and edit count/total pages? I can't get it with v108. Thanks. -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 09:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Did you read the documentation? —Kanegasi ☺C 17:36, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops. Thanks. -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 07:43, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Two questions

Hi! Anyway, I have two questions for you:

What is the wikilink cleanup you're doing with all the Crafting pages?!
Also, what does Template:Anchor do? There's no documentation for this when I last checked.

Thanks! -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 02:00, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm fixing plural links, but this time I got my hands into AWB.
{{anchor|foobar}} is the exact same thing as . Multiple arguments, such as {{anchor|foobar|barfoo}} add more ids. This is a different way of creating a section link in a page without using headers. If I put {{anchor|random link}} into the middle of any page, and then link to it with [[Page#random link]], the page will load at this anchor. You are "anchoring" links to this spot on the page.

—Kanegasi ☺C 02:06, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

That's what I had thought, but I was nowhere near sure. Thanks! -- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 02:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Bots

How you allow a bot to make automatic edits? ×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
Contribs 12:53, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

You'd need to have one of the bureaucrats add your account to the bot usergroup. Since there's less oversight of bots (their edits don't show up in Recent Changes by default), this is only done for trusted users. Also, you may notice from the stated purpose of existing bots that they're only used for maintenance tasks that do not significantly change the content of a page. -- Orthotope ^talk 20:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

OK... so can you please not delete/block/ban/remove/etc this?

×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
Contribs 23:40, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

First of all, why do you need a bot? Do you know what you are doing? Also, looking at the contributions of that account, a bot does not need a signature. You should never be directly editing or acting like yourself (talk page posts, etc) through the bot account. The specific purpose of a bot account is to do a considerably large amount of edits that are either tedious to do manually and/or will spam the recent changes. Even some of my plural link fixes could be better done as a bot, so I try to not do them too often. Please clearly explain the purpose of this second account on the Admin noticeboard talk page so you can request permission to have it and mark it as a bot. If permission is denied, the account will be blocked as breaking the multiple account rule. —Kanegasi ☺C 01:12, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

(phone edit) Bots generally require an extensive amount of code to run correctly, and you'll need an extensive knowledge of Python, C-family, Ruby or other coding language. That's pretty tricky. –- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 05:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

I give up. Block it, ban it (NOT the IP!), I don't care, as long as it doesn't affect my first account.

×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
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Vandalism

Look. I'm sorry for inserting "false information". It's just that there were a few things that I just discovered in 1.6. For example, I built a village that has villagers in it, and when it became night-time, they would quickly rush home. Quicker than they used to. Also, Iron Golems could be killed in 13 hits with an un-enchanted diamond sword (although they would still be killed in 100 hits with your fists), and will detect nearby villages and will go to them, and if they were trapped in a container, they would constantly move. Along with this, untamed wolves would have the same health as a tamed wolf, zombies/zombie pigmen would be killed in 3 hits with an un-enchanted diamond sword (although it still takes 22 hits to kill them with your fists), and if zombies/skeletons with swords were chasing a player (or zombies were chasing villagers), and a utility mob/skeleton's arrow/Ender Dragon were to hit them, then that zombie/skeleton would retaliate and fight that mob to the death. So, if you think I put in untrue stuff, I'm sorry.

--50.141.226.94 22:12, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't necessarily the info, it was adding it with no proof or explanation, and then adding it again after it was reverted also without explanation. If you find new information that's much different that what is documented, it's better to make a talk page post on the applicable article talk and have others verify your findings. Unexplained changes like that are better for typos and other minimal changes. —Kanegasi ☺C 23:00, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Plural/Singular pages

Hey, you just deleted Attributes and I'm ok with it but perhaps you should delete these too then:

Underground_Caverns

Just a few examples, I thought it would be handy. (I didn't create these btw)

--Jespertheend 17:49, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I have deleted several other pages before, but some of the redirects that currently exist have many links to them that need to be fixed. Deleting a page just created is one thing, taking away a heavily linked old redirect is another. This page provides an excellent explanation as to why one thing can be deleted even though others just like it exist.

Also, only Cobwebs and Saddles are bad, and Underground Caverns shouldn't have been made either. A singular redirect to a plural page is fine (Command) and a redirect with different capitalization is fine (Flower pot). The reason why only plural redirects are unnecessary is that MediaWiki can link to the correct page without a redirect. [[Saddle]]s will link to Saddles and [[Cobweb]]s will link to Cobwebs. Anything added directly after a link will be included in the hyperlink format. For example, potatoing links to potato.

Addition: Turns out underground caverns had nothing linked to it. —Kanegasi ☺C 18:04, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Another question

How do you make text larger/smaller? Example: the header on Minecraft Wiki:Community portal. ×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
Contribs 18:24, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

<big>Text</big> -> Text

Text -> Text

Huge Text -> Huge Text (you can change 32 to whatever you need, it's just an example.)

I hope that answers your question. --GreenStone (0x54; 0x43) 18:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Clickie —Kanegasi ☺C 19:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Just one more question, sorry!

I'm sorry for asking so many questions, but...

Can I make the page Tutorials/Sprucing up your page?

×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
Contribs 00:43, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Or you could just make it in your userspace? --70.181.68.226 03:40, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Tutorials are generally about playing Minecraft. I'd say follow 70.181.68.226 and make it in your userspace. –- ^(T)Numbermaniac_(C) 05:36, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Sniffle sniffle* OK... if I have to... ×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk
Contribs 11:50, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Is this vandalism?

Ok. So you have a stack of diamonds, 20 full stacks of wood, and a huge storage room only for cobblestone. So what do you do now? Try building a Metropolis! A metropolis is a large city with many tall buildings and people. You will probably want flat land to start off with. There are seeds for flat land in Default mode, but use superflat if you want a bigger city. However, you can use mods, plugins, or progams such as WorldEdit, MCEdit, VoxelSniper, and WorldPainter to clear land, or you can use a custom superflat preset to build your city in. It is recommended that you use creative mode to build your metropolis.

Is the bold/italic part of this paragraph from this page vandalism? An IP said to ask an admin, so I did. File:Meeples10 signature.png ᐸ Talk
Contribs 01:08, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

It is definitely not vandalism. Vandalism's sole purpose is to disrupt a page with malicious intent from the performer. That part simply sounds out of place. If it were an article, I would remove it. It's not very wiki-like. BUT, that is a tutorial. Tutorials do not have to follow the common flow of normal articles and editors should be allowed to add a bit of flair to a tutorial, all in my opinion. If you still disagree with the existence of that part, reword it or find some other concrete reason to remove it, but it isn't vandalism. —Kanegasi ☺C 01:18, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me that, I have undone multiple revisions on pages because it sounded out of place, and I just figured that was vandalism because nobody ever undid my undoings on pages. File:Meeples10 signature.png ᐸ Talk
Contribs 01:32, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

User Commited Identity

It is not a 'recovery' system it is a means of proving your identity. Even on wiki's that do support it is just to prove to administrators that you own the account. This will in turn ease the pressure on administrators when recovering stolen or lost accounts. It isn't a feature that is supported it is like saying that common sense isn't supported. If I can fully prove that I am me and I am denied access to my account it doesn't really make sense does it. I hope I wasn't incivil in this message but your handling of situations on this wiki is far from exempleorary. I simply seek to help. Falkirks^Talk 02:16, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I merely moved a user template into the creator's userspace. It doesn't need to be in the template namespace. —Kanegasi ☺C 02:18, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Well it is a template isn't it? It is template that any user could benefit from not just myself. You in moving it broke the transclude I had on my user page. You did all this without any notice and the template meet no criteria for such speedy intervention. A discussion on the talk page wold have been much appreciated instead of taking adminsistative action. Falkirks^Talk 02:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

"This is template for your user page it is maintained by none other than Falkirks. If you want to edit the code contact him or just subst instead of transclude to make yourself a copy."

Sounds like a user template to me. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk
Contribs 02:26, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Yes, it is a template, but that doesn't mean it has to be in the template namespace. It's just transcluded userspace formatting. With exception to the base userbox template, userspace templates are better kept within one's own userspace. If anyone else decides to make use of it, they can either copy it to their own space or just transclude it from where it is.

Also, we do not have any guidelines set out for any notice before administrative actions, nor do we have any "speedy" actions. —Kanegasi ☺C 02:29, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay I edit on Wikipedia and that is quoting a user without refuting the central point. It is a clear sign of an uncivil comment. As for Kanegasil I am very sorry to hear of your absence of any polices or governance restricting admin actions. I trust in the fact that your common sense will make up for the lack of policies. In future discuss with other editors before making a move and suppressing a redirect. Or just if you must do it and then notify me on my talk instead of breaking my user page and not telling me. Thanks for both of your quick replies. Falkirks^Talk 02:38, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

While we have made points in the past using select policies and essays from Wikipedia, one common issue that has presented itself here is the need to continually remind new users that this installation of MediaWiki is not Wikipedia. While many of their operations fit well into any wiki, it must be taken into consideration that the massive size of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia collection is the reason that many of their rules exist. Minecraft Wiki is a backwater town compared to the New York City that is Wikipedia, with a bit of exaggeration. The boundaries you are used to on Wikipedia, including the slow and methodical process of administrative action, are not required here. Everything that occurs is easily reviewable as it happens by multiple people, since our Recent Changes isn't a scrollfest like Wikipedia's. If an admin steps out of line, it is easily noticed. Because of this slow activity, other actions are better taken immediately with discussion afterward, such as this, rather than a game of tag-and-wait. Plus, I merely moved the template, not deleted it. No real harm done.

As for breaking your transclusion, my action was relatively immediate, as was your reaction, so I found a talk page post to be unnecessary. If I was the only admin that happened upon this template hours later when you were for certain to be offline, then I would've mentioned it. —Kanegasi ☺C 02:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Your rationale is very flawed. I am an active person but you can't coun on that and had no clues that I was. Anyway thanks for your responses and I hope you have a great day or night :) Falkirks^Talk 03:00, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Now I see your point on the no policies. The one other thing which troubles me is the absence of a CheckUser policy. This is pretty important and you don't even need CheckUser of you have such a small wiki. I may contact a crat about this later but keep it in mind. Falkirks^Talk 03:10, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

There have been times in the past where the CheckUser right was needed, but it is definitely a scarce issue here. Only a few admins have CheckUser, one of which is almost always active. If you're considering for application of the right, be advised that we do not fragment user rights amongst users as Wikipedia does. Curse handles their wikis with simply admins. Since there hasn't been a rising need for that right, there has been no consideration for any other users to have it. —Kanegasi ☺C 03:33, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Userspace category

Is there a way to make a category in my userspace (i.e. User:Meeples10/Category:Originals), so that any page that has {{User:Meeples10/Meeples10 Original}} appears on it? File:Meeples10 signature.png ᐸ Talk
Contribs 21:46, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I completely forgot about this post. Even though I do have talk page emails, my presence here has been spotty the last few weeks due to work. Anyways, you don't need a category to simply see pages something is transcluded to. Use the "What Links Here" function. You can find this at the top of the Toolbox on the left for every page on the wiki, or you can go to Special:WhatLinksHere and manually query pages. Go to Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Meeples10/Meeples10 Original for your specific case. —Kanegasi ☺C 17:56, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I removed the post because I changed my mind, and I do know about Special:WhatLinksHere. File:Meeples10 signature.png ᐸ Talk
Contribs 19:58, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I knew that, I saw the edit summary. I figured I would reply anyways to apologize for forgetting about the post. Also, as a side note, next question could you make your topic title more specific? I know my talk page is getting a bit long, but when you make a topic, make sure it's not the same as another topic. The way the link IDs work, following your topic link will take you to the first topic of that name on the page instead. —Kanegasi ☺C 20:08, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

OK, I'll do that. File:Meeples10 signature.png ᐸ Talk
Contribs 20:36, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

In fact, on my Wikipedia talk page, the "A barnstar for you!" heading comes multiple times. So when I edit a lower section, it shows me the first one. -_- – Numbermaniac
Talk - Contribs 21:57, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Warm Reception

Thank you.

(cur | prev) 20:09, 21 June 2013‎ Kanegasi (Talk | contribs)‎ (64,752 bytes) (Undo revision 496247 by 72.224.206.9 (talk) no. do not post this again.) (undo)

Is the reason you are used to barking at people as if they were dogs bc you work for the DoD? I wasn't planning on reposting it; I'd already posted it once. You probably don't know this, but decorum on a wiki entails that if ANY user removes content it cannot be re-administered without a vetting process that addresses the reason GIVEN for it's removal. It's a neat system.

I can only surmise at a reason then, I'm thinking, a)it's because of the literal words 'X is real' meaning this site has a party dogma. b) I'm suspected of raising an army of idiots w a rousing post c) it wasn't the correct talk page; see 'lunatic game theory'

It really doesn't matter. It's becoming painfully obvious that the ONLY people who read talk pages are either actual troublemakers, or people venting the stress of real life authority in cyberspace. If the only serious readers of talk pages ARE admins on a crusade, I suppose it's only fair they exercise absolute subjective opinion. Either way, I think you may have been hinting at whether I should join, and I concur. Perhaps we aren't meant to be a social species, after all. I guess I misunderstood "everyone uses wikis" to mean "everyone EDITS wikis." Apparently only a select personality type aspires; to be fair I've only wanted to join wikis when I had the fewest friends, so I may have a theory in that regard. Perhaps bickering over hex identifiers is ill-conducive to philosophical debate. Don't knock your brain out spying on new members trying to recognize my writing; actually, have fun, go ahead. Reload that talk page for 3 days to see if I'm back. Thanks for assuming EVERY visitor is a fraud, or a folk devil, or a misanthrope. I think I will just ignore your existence and CONTINUE to enjoy your highly accurate data tables I had to do NOTHING to help compile. I'll just leech data and ASSUME helping is overrated. This is why every wiki page is a wiki post it note. Stub is redundant. Everything gets deleted. Hence, my nonexistent contribution: wiki (n) An online historical archive repository of redacted mistakes. Just like my original post, no matter HOW original, 3 people saw it, none of them cared. Or 4 and 1 if you count yourself. Just delete it. It's so easy. If only your life had an edit tab, right? Don't bother accusing me of living under a burning bridge, I'd hate to accuse you of administering a wiki. Thanks for the classless scolding; I was right, joining is for suckers and social masochists. Oh, and, the finger! Remember, once I click 'deploy' I've had my fun, and I'm probably enjoying a hot beverage. It's just hundreds of strangers arguing over one keyboard. Don't stroke out. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.224.206.9 (talk) 21:52, 21 June 2013‎(UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

What I removed from that talk page had nothing to do with the article. This isn't a place to theorize or even discuss, especially on something that doesn't exist. Go to the forums for that kind of thing, but I'm pretty sure the Minecraft Forum deletes Herobrine conspiracy crap too. —Kanegasi ☺C 04:18, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

The Player

Thanks for reverting the revert by 50.40.85.35 and blocking them. Anyway, the reason I said this is because you beat me by half a second! --70.181.68.226 04:11, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem :) —Kanegasi ☺C 04:18, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

If this ipad were any faster, I would've beaten you :). Vandalism makes me so mad. --70.181.68.226 04:36, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Filter false positive

What does your edit summary "filter false positive" mean? I don't see a filter in the page history, and it looks like those are not bot edits. hotdogPi-t--c--^{Try my quiz!} _{Do not click!} 22:54, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

I have taken up the responsibility of fine tuning our word filter over the past month or so. Those two recent edits were attempted changes that the filter caught the last 7 days, but weren't wrong. —Kanegasi ☺C 23:13, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Current page feature in MW's JavaScript

I've noticed that MediaWiki includes a large amount of JavaScript features that don't appear on regular JavaScript. Is there some way to do this?

if (a specific page === The page you are on){
/* do this */
}

Thanks! – Numbermaniac
Talk - Contribs 01:12, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

After having a look through w3schools, would location.href() work? – Numbermaniac
Talk - Contribs 01:18, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

mw.config.get( 'wgPageName' ); –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk
Contribs 01:50, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I knew there must be something. Thanks! :) – Numbermaniac
Talk - Contribs 02:02, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Don't use w3schools. Skim through http://www.w3fools.com to find out why. Instead, when you google something code-related, like JS or CSS etc, throw "mdn" in the search and use the first results. —Kanegasi ☺C 04:10, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Lol, ok. Huh, Mozilla for the win :P – Numbermaniac
Talk - Contribs 05:51, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Corazon

Can you delete this page? --70.181.68.226 03:38, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Marked for delete with 1% battery on phone. – Numbermaniac
Talk - Contribs 03:54, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Numbermaniac! --70.181.68.226 04:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Done —Kanegasi ☺C 04:10, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks both of you! You're the greatest! --70.181.68.226 04:17, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Some help, please?

Please, check it. All info here. Please, respond on that page or my talk page, so I can answer much faster. Thanks. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Mitrill (talk • contribs) 15:30, 29 June 2013‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

It seems you have a decent explanation on that talk page already. Next time, though, just simply post there instead of spamming user talk pages. —Kanegasi ☺C 01:44, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I did something wrong...

the editsummarypresets aren't working. but advisor and edit counter are. What did I do?!(to my common.js) — ^t numbermaniac ^c 02:22, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Remove that wgPageName thing you added, it's unnecessary. The first line of the edit counter does that already. Because you added it around the mw.loader.localLoad declaration, you essentially disabled it outside of your userpage, which in turn disables loading the edit summary code. To explain that first line of the counter code, if (mw.config.get('wgTitle') === mw.config.get('wgUserName') && mw.config.get('wgNamespaceNumber') === 2) means "if the current page title is the same as the logged in user AND is in the 'User:' namespace", which does exactly what you added. May I ask why you added it? Also, you are missing a semicolon at the end of the bottomRowAttrib line in the counter code. —Kanegasi ☺C 02:46, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

My phone's Internet is slower than a snail (it's 25kbps…) and I've been looking for ways to speed up the loading of Minecraft Wiki pages, because a RAM of 420MB and HDD 160MB doesn't help . Adding that was more of a test than anything else though, and it was supposed to do exactly what you stated: disable the edit counter outside my userpage. Except that I didn't quite realise that it was going to stop the editsummarypresets from working. I didn't realise your code did such a thing. The idea was that when the phone was downloading the common.js, it would skip that part because of my wgPageName thing. I shall go fix that. Thanks! — ^t numbermaniac ^c 03:56, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

That's exactly why the code is there. It's a part of the counter script from the original source. The counter has never loaded outside of your userpage since you had that line in there. I have also tried a few tweaks in the past to get the wiki to load a bit faster on my phone. One suggestion I have is to bookmark a custom Recent Changes link on your phone. I normally have 500 changes loaded set in the preferences, but I have a bookmarked link on my phone for only loading 100: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=100 —Kanegasi ☺C 04:01, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

The edit summary presets are working now :).

I just want the general wiki to load a bit faster. I was at a shopping centre today and the Internet was super fast... But then the phone turned on me and crashed 14 times in 60 minutes. -_-

Just out of interest, how do I hide the new thing at the bottom. Those featured sites and stuff at the bottom? — ^t numbermaniac ^c 04:10, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

(lol @ edit conflicts) For the new fancy curse site thing, in the list of things that are set to display: none in your common.css, the thing you got from me, put in .show-ads. Here's what I have currently and what they are:

div[id^="ad-"] (sliding ad thing on the bottom edge of the window that follows the scroll)

#curse-panel (infamous right side thing)

#ft (old curse link list at the very bottom, which is still there under the new thing)

.show-ads (new fancy curse site thing at the very bottom)

.atflb (top ad banner)

.btflb (bottom three square ads)

I have also recently added two things: a.promotions hides the "Become a premium member!" and .t-netbar-discover hides the curse site dropdown, both on the top left. The dropdown has occasionally annoyed me when my mouse wanders over it when I meant to hit a link on the side menu and the premium thing is just awkward, especially since I have premium. —Kanegasi ☺C 04:23, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, :) — ^t numbermaniac ^c 04:45, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh, something I just thought of. Are you using an iPhone? If so, there are quite a lot of places with free AT&T wifi, broadcasting a network named "attwifi". All iPhones have built-in functionality to automatically connect to these hotspots out of the box, even if you have never connected to wifi before. It's possible that one of the shops there had a network, which explains the fast loading. Quite a few fast food places have these networks. —Kanegasi ☺C 05:06, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

No, I live in Australia, I don't have an iPhone, and the speed was the standard network. It was weird :P. thanks for the help. — ^t numbermaniac ^c 05:16, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

(double edit conflict god damnit) It was hard to tell at first due to the lack of indentation (why??), but the problem was that you had the localLoad declaration inside the statement, which is used for the edit summary script. You should also be using localLoad instead of importScript.

If you really want to speed it up, copy all the separate files (that you always want enabled) into common.js. It will look messy, but only require one connection to download it, and it will all be minified. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk
Contribs 04:13, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

How do I do that? And when you say messy, do you mean my code page will look messy or the resulting pages I view will be messy? — ^t numbermaniac ^c 04:17, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Just copy paste the scripts. The code page will look messy of course... –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk
Contribs 04:19, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

What scripts?! I know I'm missing something so stupidly obvious... — ^t numbermaniac ^c 04:45, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Also,how come that little arrow thing doesn't seem to appear anymore when you put external links? I thought it was just on my talk page but its here too...? — ^t numbermaniac ^c 04:47, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

He means skip the mw.loader.load stuff and just throw all the scripts you want to use into common.js. It may shave off a bit of time loading since there doesn't need to be any script fetching, just your common.js is loaded. As for links, are you asking about the recent changes link I posted above? ~~The arrow only shows if you link using single brackets. That's a bare link.~~ Nevermind. I should've realized it at first. It's because that isn't an external link. Lol. —Kanegasi ☺C 04:52, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

That could work… — ^t numbermaniac ^c 05:16, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

The arrow doesn't show because I changed external links that are linking to the wiki to not have the external styling, so throwing plainlinks all over the place isn't necessary. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk
Contribs 05:19, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I vaguely remember that edit summary on the main common.css. Now I understand what it was for. —Kanegasi ☺C 05:27, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the deletion of Adventurize

Hey. I didn't see anything in the rules saying that articles about Bukkit plugins couldn't be posted. Could you direct me to that section? Thanks! BenjaminRH 15:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

It's gotten a huge amount of interest since it launched. This wiki has other places for things like tutorials. Is there another place you suggest posting that? In the Bukkit namespace, perhaps? BenjaminRH 15:17, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Articles are vanilla only. Bukkit is not vanilla. Normally, I would point you to make a subpage of Mods, but I think it would fit better at Bukkit/Adventurize since there are subpages there that cover some plugins. I have restored the page and moved it. Oh, to clarify why there is a Bukkit article even though I said articles are vanilla, documenting everything Minecraft is also the goal, and Bukkit itself is Mojang approved, but a separate article on a plugin or mod is not vanilla. This is why we treat Mods, and in this case Bukkit, as a pseudo-namespace allowing subpages for plugin/mod documentation. —Kanegasi ☺C 15:25, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Great. Thanks very much! BenjaminRH 19:52, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

It's a miracle!

Guess what happened! User talk:70.181.68.226 made an account! (Sorry to bother you on what may seem such a trivial matter to you) — ^t numbermaniac ^c 07:52, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Yuppers. Lol. A MIRACLE! --Sheepuff20 08:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Bother me? That's not trivial. That's awesome! Congratulations for joining! —Kanegasi ☺C 17:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

It's better than I thought it'd be :D. And can you help me with my sig? --sheepuff20

^(T) _(C) 22:19, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

It's the font color template. It was meant to always substitute, but users seem to transclude it instead. Because your sig is substituted, the safesubst in the font color template changes to the span tags. Anyways, replace everything in your sig page with the following:

[[User:Sheepuff20|sheepuff20]][[User talk:Sheepuff20|(T)]][[Special:Contribs/Sheepuff20|(C)]]

That will give you the same result without the weird return. —Kanegasi ☺C 22:34, 6 July 2013 (UTC)