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Reasons for having the template[]

Once I’ve made a more advanced version of the template for Russian wiki, users started to ask why the template is needed. And, to get the answer, I am asking the same question: why? — NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 18:25, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

From wikipedia: "This template may help to indicate that one is replying to an older state of a discussion and may not take more recent replies into account." -- Orthotopetalk 19:02, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Strictly speaking, it's not; 99.9% of the time, it's unlikely that the fact that you had an edit conflict while attempting to post a comment will have any effect whatsoever on anything other than you. However, there's still that rare circumstance where something inadvertently gets changed or reverted, and in that case, using this template would be saying "I got an edit conflict, so there may be some unintended weirdness in my edit". If any individual user doesn't want to use the template, there's certainly no reason to force them, but there's also no real need to delete the template itself: it isn't hurting anything with its presence, and on the occasions when an editor does want to indicate they got an edit conflict, the template gives them a means to do so. In the case of the Russian template, it may help its usefulness to have it link to m:Help:Edit conflict. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:04, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

I still don't understand. For whom it matters that you couldn't save the page due to recipient's edits, can you think about it? Is that info important for the recipient? Recipient would be rather interested in the post's contents. Edit conflicts are not mentioned in the rules – and everything not forbidden by project's rules, moral, ethics, country laws and interesting laws is allowed.

– NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 07:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Edit conflicts are a technical issue; there's not really any need to spell anything out about them in rules or guidelines. This template is just a notification that an edit conflict happened - "I got an edit conflict when I tried to save, and I attempted to merge my edits with the conflicting edits, but I may have missed something, and my comment may not reflect the content of the comments added in the conflicting edits". It's meant to be a courtesy, nothing more, and if any particular editor doesn't see the point to it, they shouldn't feel like they're being required to use it (personally, I don't, instead preferring to note edit conflicts in my edit summaries). Basically, it's there for those who want it, and those who don't want to use it should be able to ignore its presence. Or, to look at this a different way, just because a template is there doesn't mean everyone should be expected to use it - there's certainly no requirement for all editors to use, for example, {{Comment}}. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 11:29, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Very good translation from 12-years-old user (yeah, a kind of irony). I actually said:

Nevertheless I didn't understand. Ain't it unimportant for your partner which time you didn't save your actions? Is this necessary info for him? I guess that my partner will pay attention on the content rather than on this info. The rules says nothing about it - and everything that not forbidden by the project's rules, morals, ethics, country laws intergovernmental organization's laws, international law therefore is allowed.


Sorry if he confused you because of quite not so good knownledge of English. --KhmelAW (talk) 16:03, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) × 2 1) Sorry. 2) These edit conflicts are driving me mad D:<NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 16:11, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Keep positive. XD --KhmelAW (talk) 16:12, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Still, what's the point of mentioning edit conflicts on talk pages at all? Reply goes only after the message we're replying to, not in the middle (except some correction edits, but that's minor), and may change anyway as the latter changes. — NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 06:59, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
It's personal preference. That's all it is. If someone wants to indicate they got an edit conflict, they're going to do so, and the template gives them a convenient means to do so. If the community decides it doesn't want the template via a deletion debate, that's fine, but it doesn't mean that people who are inclined to note edit conflicts will stop doing so, they just won't be using the template for it. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:10, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


Why would users want to note that there was an edit conflict? 15:00, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

People use it if they have had an edit conflict but didn't want to change their discussion post when they got it. The template says that the following post doesn't directly refer to the previous post. | violine1101(Talk) 15:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
#Reasons for having the template. KnightMiner t/c 20:27, 4 June 2015 (UTC)