Talk: Planned versions

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Java cave game 1.15

ok, I'm a serious og fan ik its called Minecraft now but I'm used to cave game. so I herd that 1.15 is coming out with new mobs and swords. I found that the new swords are going to be annoying based off the snapshots there's going to be long swords and short swords, same with axes, tridents, bows, crossbows, practically anything. and the mobs are going to be more "biomes" according to Microsoft. like a shroom chick and golden cow. like What? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.254.80.125 (talk) at 23:33, 02 November 2019 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Neither of those are Java 1.15. The sword changes are the update to combat; see Java Edition Combat Tests. The new mobs are part of Minecraft Earth. Java 1.15 adds bees, as does Bedrock 1.14. The Blobs 23:39, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

I know I’m a year late to this, but I feel like it’s worth calling out the fact that their referral to MC as “Cave Game” because they’re a “serious og fan” is completely ridiculous. Notch only referred to it as “Cave Game” for around a week at the very beginning of its development, and anyone who was a fan during the earliest parts of development would still call it Minecraft, as that became the title VERY early on (mid-may 2009). In all likelihood, the person who originally posted this thread only became aware of the name “cave game” by looking at a wiki page. 24.30.68.172 (talk) 03:33, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Q3

Can someone change it to June 23? —98.230.115.82 19:02, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Piglin Brutes

So I tried to do a reference but I’m unsure how. If anyone could do it for me that would mean a lot. Was not trying to be annoying I apologize. ~~ Robbyb3ll4s (talk) 02:35, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

You create a reference using <ref>Link</ref>. There is a way to use the same reference several times, but that is a little more advanced.

Also, if you are unsure how certain markup works, try viewing the source of a page that uses it. The Blobs 06:25, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

However, information about planned features should go on Java Edition mentioned features#Planned.  Nixinova   T   C   07:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

rtx beta

can someone add this? i know i can do it but like i'm not sure about how it should be worded and there isnt much context either unlike the java edition combat tests where they said for example, it would be released when its 'Good enough' So can someone add it as it has development versions. Humiebees (talk) 21:09, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

I think that makes sense, since the combat changes in Java Edition are included in this page. The Blobs 16:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Java 1.16.2 has a confirmed release date now

Can someone change 1.16.2 to say August 4 as the release date. For Java Edition as Bedrock is still unconfirmed for some reason. 213.205.192.82 14:24, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

You need a link to confirm this release date. You can't just guess. The Blobs 18:54, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

It changed it back to unknown release date. Just in case it changes back I made a link. 213.205.196.229 16:14, 3 August 2020 (UTC) Also the link is where 1.16.2 is 213.205.196.229 16:17, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

1.17 (again)

First bugs for 1.17 have been fixed, and for the first time, the developers have acknowledged that the next version will be 1.17 - is that enough to add it here and create a new page? Source: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-190896?jql=project%20%3D%20MC%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%22Future%20Version%20-%201.17%2B%22 Galaxy_2Alex (talk) 12:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Look closely at the bug reports. The fix versions are 1.17+, which basically just means they will be fixed eventually. There is not enough information about the update. The Blobs 18:57, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

I have this page that gathers as much info as possible.---Humiebee ^{Discuss anything with me Look at my edits} 19:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

1.17 release date

Hi, on the article it says: "1.17 is an upcoming update with no set release date", but the developers have confirmed that 1.17 will be released on mid-2021, so can you add that to the article?

Well it still has no set release date so......---Humiebee ^{Discuss anything with me Look at my edits} 01:53, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Which basically means that they did not say specific date, only the season and a year, so it basically means that it's mid-2021, so we won't see release date for a while, you're welcome, also it's my first edit/talk. --Charge Minecraft (talk) 16:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Include MC Dungeons perhaps?

Minecraft Dungeons often have mechanics and features revealed to be upcoming by the developers with help articles released beforehand and videos. Would also allow the ‌ tag hyperlink to be applicable to dungeons pages.
The version numbering would, however, be quite broad (ie: 1.8). Raybeano99 (talk) 14:26, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

I mean, we don't know the dungeons version number until release, and its not like MCD has snapshots for it anyways, only numbered updates. We would have to assume what the version number would be, but that isn't always accurate. Don't forget that dungeons may not last as long as minecraft since it is a spinoff game and not as popular. James Haydon (talk) 16:32, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

It will probably stick to the minecraft franchise, if they discontinue MCD, Mojang will recieve a ton of backlash (almost as much as if they discontinued Java Edition)Humiebee^{talk contribs} 16:03, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

 Oppose per above. BDJP ^(t|c) 00:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Bedrock combat changes (again)

There has been more than one instance of documenting a plan to port or adapt the Java combat changes to Bedrock, followed by reversion of the same. Personally, I'm not invested either way, but since it's controversial, I think there should either be a citation of some kind on the paragraph or it should be removed. Dhranios claimed this plan was stated in an "official livestream". Why not link to it then? — Auldrick (talk · contribs) 14:12, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Because I don't want to bother searching archives, I have other things to do too. I was in those livestreams myself and it was made very clear by Helen (at the time still at Mojang) that the resulting combat would be applied to both editions. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 16:18, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Since when is "I don't want to bother" a justification for throwing verifiability out the window and quashing consensus building? But nobody said it had to be you anyway. Gamma Eaglit made the edit adding the section and should have cited a reference at that time. — Auldrick (talk · contribs) 16:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

It is not, I told you it's in the combat steams; there's several hours of footage from those alone, and I simply do not have the time to find the right timestamp(s), you can do that too (I provided where you can find the info, you can check it too). I don't have that much time to spend on that single minor thing, that I know for a fact is true. I can even ask Helen to verify that for me still, but you'll simply disregard that as "not a Mojang employee, not a source", despite her having been a Mojang employee who has answered numerous questions from the community truthfully. "But nobody said it had to be you anyway." You were heavily implying I had to with your message "Dhranios stated this Why not link it?". Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 16:46, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Looking in the past of this talk page, nixinova made a good point I forgot. But yes, even they confirmed it was comming from both editions, so you're basically just asking for a source of something that was already proven (granted that reference is a dead link now). Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 16:50, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

@Dhranios: You are the one adding unsourced content to the wiki. Therefore you are the one responsible for finding a source. You don't feel like bothering watching several hours of footage? Don't add the content then. You claim there is another source that is easy to find? Add it. You don't get to add content then expect others to verify it for you. If it really is proven finding proof should not be hard. KnightMiner ^(t/c) 16:52, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Again, I do not have the time to do that, it was proven in the past with a reference included and I was only reverting the incorrect undo, I didn't add that text myself. I never add any info to the wiki that I do NOT know is true, you should know that by now, I have made 0 vandalistic/false information edits in the past.

I'm leaving now, as your (plural) behavior is rather infuriating me. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 16:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't understand how you, an administrator on this wiki, can fail to understand that (1) citations are required for verifiability of controversial facts, (2) being an administrator and/or ingratiating yourself with Mojangsters does not qualify you as an authoritative source or exempt you from proving your statements, and (3) telling another editor to fix your half-baked edits because you're too important to do it yourself is unbelievably rude.

Moreover, the factual status of Bedrock combat changes is irrelevant; I stipulate them because I remember the stream and what Helen said myself. What's at issue isn't the facts, it's the absence of a citation where one is required. (By the way, I also have had access to Helen for several years—even before you did if I'm not mistaken—but that doesn't grant either of us any special stature, it's just a flex. And there's a very good reason we can't use Helen as a source on current plans any more: She wouldn't have knowledge of any change of plans that might have happened. You already understand that perfectly well, or you should. For that matter, weren't those streams like 2–3 years ago? How do we know the plans haven't changed since then?)

Finally, "You were heavily implying"? I did no such thing, and I don't accept responsibility for what you choose to infer. You've been defensive from your first reply, for no reason. This is unbecoming of any editor, especially an administrator. — Auldrick (talk · contribs) 18:02, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

If we add combat changes, we need to add BE flattening, biome updates, and anything else in Mentioned features that is major. Also, none of these are in development versions or have had extensive coverage unlike JE combat (dev versions) or BE 1.17 (extensive coverage).Humiebee^{talk contribs} 23:16, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

This. The source argument is irrelevant as that's not the purpose of this page.  Nixinova   T   C   23:41, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Remove the 1.16.230 release date please

See this from a more details. -180.190.216.145 05:14, 30 April 2021 (UTC)