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Glitch

When I looked in the crafting area to make dyes, I noticed something unusual: the crafting recepie for the rose red dye is repeated twice. I think you should fix it.Kittyline (talk) 02:56, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Yellow Flower

Shouldn't this be called Dandelion? Seeing as the Item template uses it. --Heldplayer 17:52, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

It's simply called "Flower" in-game, so the infobox is incorrect. Will fix. --Gnu32 17:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Why Flowers Vanish

Neither this page nor Google can explain why my indoor flower has disappeared. I suspect it was too dark, or not planted in deep enough dirt, or something - can someone in-the-know please add something about what conditions will cause a planted flower to die? TheNthDoctor 23:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for catching this, I've added the appropriate information from Light. --Gnu32 00:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Likewise, thank you! TheNthDoctor

Spawning condition priority?

I found this flower while mining for iron and diamonds. Might this mean that the spawn conditions for the flower seem to ever-so-slightly prioritise the light level rather than being on grass above ground? Not a common occurrence as far as I know, might be worth noting. -TheWyo 02:26, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

UndergroundFlower — Flower by a pool of lava

Damn, i was just about to post a similar picture. also, i am not good with computer. how do i put pics in? ^super caret^ 21:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I have also found a rose adjacent to lava. I wasn't sure if it was "natural" or if it had been caused by the conversion from the old format of map to the new. I'm glad others have seen them. Jestingrabbit 08:47, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Cyan Flower

Took a snapshot from the youtube video:

No idea why it keeps showing the original when I've tried to replace it with a cropped version. In any case, if anyone can find a spot for it in the article (and get it working right), feel free to add. --Warlock 06:15, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, this weird acting is known, just press ctrl+F5 a few times and it will work.--Yurisho 06:18, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Aha! It's working now. No idea where to put it since the section is tiny, but maybe you can find a spot :P --Warlock 06:19, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

It "acts weird" because you didn't clear you browser cache. Your browser is still using the old local copy, so you'll need to clear the cache manually (in options) or pressing shift/crtl. - Asterick6 02:47, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

https://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/78539168938078208 I just saw jeb tweet this. Thought you guys might wanted to see. --Stabbybaby 03:30, 8 June 2011 (EDT)

Just adding this link here for anyone unable to view the above twitter link. (Default url, mobile compatibility) TheLOLxd2 (talk) 02:24, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

"Hardware problem"?

What hardware problem could force them to not have a red flower? 75.118.51.238 23:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

It may be that the Xperia Play has difficulty displaying Red, or perhaps Pocket Edition uses a limited palette, older games such as DooM or Blood used palettes for their textures and sprites. The limit in colors wasn't really noticeable as said palettes were often large and expansive. But it may be that, if it uses one, PE's palette couldn't fit in the reds necessary for red roses. 50.138.213.207 18:47, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Remove cyan flower?

Do we really need to mention something that does not exist, will never exists, and has been confirmed as hardware bug? Really? | TheKax | Talk 07:43, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

No, you don't get it. There is a hardware problem in the Xperia PLAY, and because of that they will add cyan flowers to the Xperia PLAY version of minecraft, but it will not come to the PC version, and because this is a minecraft wiki, and not PC version minecraft wiki, this should be here.--Yurisho 08:07, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

They will add cyan flowers to XPERIA because of hardware problems? Just re-read your last sentence, and think about it. Hardware problem forcing them to cahnge roses to cyan flowers? How can a hardware problem force them to change the color of a flower... Excuse me, that just does not make any sense.

| TheKax | Talk 16:50, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

No I'm quite sure roses will stay, but it is probably something like "we can't have so many ores so we took lapis out and made a flower that gives blue color instead" or something, also, read the citation and tell me what you get from that.--Yurisho 17:48, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Um, how is an extra rose different from extra ore? They're both blocks, they're both stored the same way in the saves, they only look different. Does not make any sense.

| TheKax | Talk 16:15, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Give over, there's no rational reason for removing the cyan flowers. They have a unique texture, and that's a good enough reason to keep them. Legoless 21:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Crying obsidian has an unique texture. Cyan flower has palette swap texture. Which one happens to be mentioned in the wiki? Think.

| TheKax | Talk 14:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Huh? The only difference between Crying Obsidian and Cyan Flower is that Cyan Flower *actually exists* in a version of the game. They both have unique sprites - palette swap or no (and if you are going to complain about that, Crying Obsidian is just Obsidian with some blue specks on top of it - just as lazy) --Warlock 14:25, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

A palette swap is a unique texture. This deserves as much mention as Gears do, as it was in a version of Minecraft at some point. We just don't have that version. In addition, we have a developer twitter account mentioning it. That alone usually warrants the creation of a page. I would add this to the "Removed Features" in the list of blocks, and possibly add a "Removed" category to items to fully incorporate this. Verhalthur ^{(talk)(contribs)} 14:29, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Um,If you look at the Crying Obsidian texture you can see, without the blue specks, It looks like a dark, less wrinkled Netherrack. Even I know that, and I`m 11.166.127.1.226 16:46, 22 May 2012 (UTC) anonymous FAIL discussion. - Asterick6 06:15, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Cram it, Asterik6. At least I don`t try to make AN ENTIRE TOPIC about Cyan Flowers.Not saying you did, but the guy who did was an idiot. But no, look at the texture. You can see considerable differences from regular and crying.God.166.127.1.227 19:45, 22 May 2012 (UTC)psycodragons

Cyan Flower Image - Replace it with higher quality image?

It should be possible to remotely take a screenshot of Minecraft PE and edit image to get cyan flower image, or backup apk file and then extract terrain.png, but as I keep seing "No speculation." quoted from some users on cyan flower image, so I'm not quite sure is it allowed to add it anymore. Tom.K 10:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Those images are from before the release of the the PE, so they were speculation, but if you can extract the actual terrain.png it will be grate.--Yurisho 11:26, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, It's uploaded, just not sure is it accepted. Additionally, I have grid image of it too, but it seems that grid part isn't in here, not sure how to use it. Tom.K 11:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Official name of cyan flower?

Can someone who has access to the PE jar files find out what is the official name of cyan flowers?--Yurisho 11:53, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Not a jar file. Android/iOS don't use Java. It's in the apk/ipa file, which can be opened with unzipper programs, (idk about ipa though). - Asterick6 02:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Roses in 1.8

Roses seem to be unable to spawn naturally in 1.8. However, bone meal can be used to spawn them so they are obtainable. Should this be added to the page? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/617439-roses/ This group seem to have noticed the same thing. Msaguy 00:25, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Cyan flowers existance

(i'm a bad speller, i admit) TheKax, Tough i don't get why it forced them to change it to cyan, It's there. It's there for a reason. We just don't know why. As for the looks, it does look like a pallet swap, but it's still unique. Creepergoboom64 18:56, 13 August 2012 (UTC)Creepergoboom64

Flower Picture

When you scroll down on some item pages you will see a picture of lots of items where it will bring you to the page of that item. (example: stone bricks has other types of it next to it, ect.) If you click on this page you will probably see a picture of 2 flowers, rose and flower. I think the cyan flower should be included in the picture, too. This shows that there is more flowers. Unfortunetly, I do not know how to change the picture, so I am asking, can someone include the cyan flower in it? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.39.86.83 ^(Talk) 12:54, 15 September 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Those images are produced by {{BlockSprite}} and File:BlockCSS.png. I don't think there's enough room to add the cyan flower to the other two and still have it fit in the 16x16 pixel space. -- Orthotope 19:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

cultivated

Does anyone else think the word "cultivated" seems vague?
Can they multiply like mushrooms then?
Does this mean they don't multiply or won't create more flowers?
If they can, what are the conditions for this process?
I'm sure I had a 'rose farm' in some previous version or other. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.183.31.46 (talk). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I've heard a rumor of cultivating flowers, which may have related to a previous version, or may have just been a rumor. I'm fairly certain that they do *not* multiply anymore (if they ever did), and that sentence only supports my suspicion. So I would say no, they don't multiply. The *only* way to get more flowers after the chunk generates is to use bonemeal. --Kahless61 05:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Raspberry Pi

We need to add the Raspberry Pi banner to the Cyan editor. I am about remove the PE only banner and say it is also on the RasPi edition as well GingerGeek 20:23, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Spreading Flowers

Was this ever in the game? Was there ever a version of Minecraft where either of the flowers spread? I've heard rumors about some version near 1.1 allowing yellow flowers to spread in rain, but I don't know if this is true. Was it actually in the code? LB^(T|C) 04:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, no. I'll bet there were mods that did this, though; it wouldn't be hard to implement. -- Orthotope ^talk 05:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

I found this while looking through the page history, I'll look some more. LB^(T|C) 02:58, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

I suspect that was misinformation even at the time. AFAIK, the only way to make new flowers is bone meal. --Mental Mouse 04:35, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Sunflowers en Lavender

I think Sunflowers and Lavender deserve their own page, they will probably farmable and stuff so a lot to tell about them, anyone else thinks they deserve their own page? -- TheWombatGuru ^t^|^c NL Admin 20:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah; if they are farmable plants and not just aesthetic, I think they should definitely have their own main pages. If that happens, maybe roses and dandelions should, too. I guess we'll see when the snapshot releases. --ThingStuffObject 20:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Tulips?

I searched and could not find any sources that tulips are going to be added. I'm going to delete it right now, but Deblob167 (really anybody), if you have any links please undo and add them. It would be great if tulips are really going to be in Minecraft vanilla. --ThingStuffObject 20:02, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1khmky/yet_another_new_flower_from_jebs_instagram/cbp0ohg -- TheWombatGuru ^t^|^c NL Admin 20:03, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I undid your edit -- TheWombatGuru ^t^|^c NL Admin 20:04, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

And again... -- TheWombatGuru ^t^|^c NL Admin 20:07, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

LOL, sorry, I deleted it and when I looked at the page it looked the same, so I was like, wha? So I deleted it again, lmao....My bad. Thank you for the link :) --ThingStuffObject 20:09, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, this happens more often, next time, first search Upcoming features for references if its about upcoming stuff. -- TheWombatGuru ^t^|^c NL Admin 20:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I'll make sure to check next time. Thanks. --ThingStuffObject 20:13, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Flower Farming

I did some tests on which flowers could spawn when when you are using bonemeal on grass.

Note, that following table relates only to flower growth from bonemeal, not generated ones!

Biome	Possible flowers
Plains & Sunflower plains	Oxeye Daisy, Azure Bluet, Poppy, Dandelion; Sunflower
Swamp	Blue Orchid
Flower Forest; (Forest, Taiga)	Poppy, Allium, Azure Bluet, Tulips (All colors); Rose Bush, Lilac, Peony
Any other	Poppy, Dandelion

Two-high flowers (Sunflower, Lilac, Rose Bush, Peony) cannot be grown at all, but can be duplicated by using bonemeal on existing flower.

Flower forest is a strange one. Instead of randomly generating, they seems to spawn depending on x/z coordinates, which isn't the case for other biomes. [1]

— MiiNiPaa^T|C 14:03, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, now that you mention it, this is an interesting feeling, going through a Flower-type Forest, when you visualize it on the ground. You feel like each patch of Flowers is a single pixel in some giant piece of probably-random art! (and I updated the Chart, now) Yilante 99.47.21.151 04:15, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Very nice! Are you gonna implement this to the article itself? Its also worth noting that nothing is created when using bonemeal on podzol. --Sanoth 14:27, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

I'd really like a simplified table version of the qualitative text of the main Page. Because, I have a feeling, if done, it would be by Biome, as there are limits on Flower types, by Biome.

I know, that, as you folks say here too, it's Also in at least one Biome by-XZ Location, too! But, it'd be nice to be able to go: "oh, I can get such-and-such FlowerS, in such and such BiomeS."

Oh wait! I see you just Did, that: just didn't do it for the 2-tall Flowers, Too. Nice table!

Thanks, Yilante 99.47.21.151 00:57, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

The table in the main article is wrong for bone meal usage and tulips. When looking to the source code you will find the following conditions. (Double tall flowers are generated only at chunk generation, never with bone meal.)

Flower Forest:

All 38er flowers except Blue Orchid. The rose with doubled probability.

Swamp:

only blue orchid

Plains (including Sunflower Plains):

2/3 chance: rose, azure bluet, oxeye daisy

1/3 chance: dandelion

rare chance: all tulips

-- Mc_Etlam 81.209.202.3 09:22, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Blue Orchid

Is the blue orchid based on a real life plant like the others are? If so, which species is it? 209.7.23.226 14:53, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

I believe that it is based on the vanda coerulea --Saanoth (talk) 15:08, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Oxeye daisy or moon daisy?

Hey,my friend and I just found that the daisy in our server has two names depending on who has it. She has it as a moon daisy but I see it as an Oxeye. is this significant? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.241.1.29 (talk) 08:13, 18 December 2013(UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

She's using the Canadian English language setting. Translations are created by the fan community, not by Mojang, so this isn't considered significant. -- Orthotope^talk 08:47, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Warning erased

Any reason the last addition I made was erased? Don't say "bug reports don't go here", it's been reported as a bug and they say "who cares, buzz off". Noting a catastrophic bug that probably won't be fixed any time soon is relevent, especially if people need to change their settings on multiplayer maps to avoid map erasure.
EDIT: Ok I see. "not trivia". Moved it to the summary. 24.68.154.229 08:13, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Shrinking Page Size

Would this article benefit from fewer info boxes? Most are just restating the same information, and with the Data Values Section I just added, are no longer needed. --KnightMiner ^{(talk|contribs)} 17:08, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

I made a prototype for what this page would look like in my Sandbox. --KnightMiner ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:13, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Looks good, but the only slightly annoying problem is you have to potentially wait a long time to see which flowers correspond to which dye. Perhaps making a new table with an overview of flowers to dyes would be beneficial. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk
Contribs
Edits 23:57, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Such as a wikitable? or group flowers separately by color? I just tried seperate crafting areas per color, and it looks decent, if not a little long --KnightMiner ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:10, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Yeah those changes look pretty good, I reckon you can bring those changes over to the flower page now. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk
Contribs
Edits 02:41, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Move to Flower

As per style guide, article titles must not be plural unless it's required. LauraFi tagged it but I reverted her edit, as there was no post there. --Naista2002 ♦ 18:13, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Already in the admin noticeboard. Laura Fidalgo ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:25, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

The admin noticeboard is not a place to post the move request. Anyone can move it. I've reverted that edit. --Naista2002 ♦

06:21, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

It is the place to make such a request if there's already a page at flower with a history which would require an admin to replace it with this page.

Agree on move. —munin ·

· 08:17, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

But re-routing the links to the new page would be big of a heck. Contact Majr and Dand0 so they can scramble their bots to deal with it. --Naista2002 ♦

08:40, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Partially moved, but Talk:Flower is subject to the migration bug, so it can't be modified. –Majr ᐸ Talk
Contribs 09:08, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Looks like the API is immune to the bug, and editing the page seems to fix it. (But I still had to move the page twice before it actually worked.) –Majr ᐸ Talk
Contribs 09:35, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Flashing a peonie?

I noticed that whenever I break a 2-high plant, even tall grass, it flashes to the peonie texture for a split second before dropping. I'm on Windows 8. Anyone else notice this, or know why it occurs? Enderizz (talk) 23:13, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

That was a bug fixed in 1.8 or 1.8.1. –LauraFi - talk 23:18, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Actually, it was never fixed. BDJP ^(t|c) 23:47, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Bug link: MC-53439. You can vote it up there and follow up the issue. –KnightMiner ^t/_c 02:30, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Surely flowers should have Transparency as Yes rather than No?

Why does the properties box for flowers have "Transparency No"? Looking at the "Transparency" definition and seeing how flowers are refered to on other pages it seems obvious that it should be "Transparency Yes" I haven't found any way to edit it so I'm leaving it for someone with more knowledge or higher privilage level. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Hexalobular (talk • contribs) at 13:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Fixed –KnightMiner ^t/_c 15:06, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Peony shows when breaking 2-block high flowers/grass

I can see when a peony when I chop down tall grass and 2-block high flowers... So... Yeah? Glitch? Bug? Yada yada.

74.67.181.117 19:09, 5 February 2016 (UTC) Anonymous.

Whoops. Only just realized someone else commented this. Searched for "Peony", but they spelled it "peonie".

74.67.181.117 19:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC) Anonymous.

Remove cyan flower

Should we remove cyan flower from the infobox image rotation, and from the infobox inv images? – Sealbudsman ^talk/_contr 02:36, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Large flowers

when you break a large flower (lilac, peony, etc.) in Minecraft Pocket Edition you get two of that flower. Does this happen in PC? JimbobsDiamonds64 (talk) 15:15, 9 July 2016 (UTC) No it doesn't; that's reported on the tracker as bug MCPE-13304. – Sealbudsman ^talk/_contr 01:37, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Same recipes in crafting usage

Hello everybody! I am working with {{Crafting usage}} on the French Flower page, and it seems that there is a problem with this template that also happens here, so I ask some help here because I really don't know where the problem comes from. You can see in the "Crafting ingredient" section that some recipes are displayed several times. For example, the Dandelion Yellow recipe is displayed 2 times, but Category:Recipe using Dandelion contains only 1 page (Dandelion Yellow obviously), and this page uses {{Crafting}} only 1 time... It is pretty weird, I hope someone will find a solution. 🙂 • ObelusPA2 ^d · FR Admin · 00:49, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Interesting, it's caused by the template asking for multiple categories which resolve to the same template. It wants the recipes involving dandelions and sunflowers, so it checks Category:Recipe using Dandelion and Category:Recipe using Sunflower, both of which come from the same recipe on the dandelion yellow page, hence it shows to recipe twice. Should be easily solved by checking for duplicate recipes, or changing the flowers to all use a single category. –Majr ᐸ Talk
Contribs 01:14, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I understand, thanks for your quick fix! • ObelusPA2 ^d · FR Admin · 01:24, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Some flowers not renewable?

It seems that some flowers are not renewable. This should be reflected in the article. --94.212.246.52 13:51, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

All single-block flowers can be generated by using bone meal on grass in the correct biome. Using bone meal on a two-block flower will produce another flower of the same type. Thus, all flowers are renewable. -- Orthotope^talk 19:03, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm really feeling that it should be a little-more specific. The "Generation"-only section for how Flowers are produced: (World) Generated /generated (with Bone Meal), claims the 2-high Flowers "cannot be Generated" (! yes, just not-Only by the World Generation) ; but they can be by (directly) Right-Clicking them (which is not how any Other, Flowers, work) with Bone Meal.

Some way to distinguish Player generation from World Generation would be nice. Otherwise, it's a direct-contradiction of right what it says above-that (hence why I use Cap's. when-necessary [but Linked, Blue Text would work too, that's what it's for], to distinguish what's - really - a Game thing and /or a Player convention and /or a Player thing). Yilante 4 /8 /19 12:57 p.m. 76.209.248.192 20:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Rose

This is ridiculous. Why don't you just simply discuss this right here? Iwer Sonsch (talk) 10:51, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

What is ridiculous? Why doesn't who discuss what here? – Sealbudsman ^talk/_contr 10:57, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

User:Skylinerw, User:JackAlpha26, and User:88.82.165.123 - just take a look at the Recent Changes. Iwer Sonsch (talk) 11:37, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Yeah I seriously flooded it with rv... But I don't expect we can get that anonymous user here to talk :/ JackAlpha26 (talk) 11:49, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

If you don't want any kind of spamming in recent changes, then I'll know to ignore this kind of users in the future. And apologies if the long recent changes history annoyed you. ——JackAlpha26 (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

No problem. I actually didn't find it annoying, it just looks so ridiculous to me compared to the German wiki. We would have discussed a topic like this right from the start. Iwer Sonsch (talk) 12:27, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Peony and Rose Bush

I'd just like to know if anyone knows why the peony and rose bushes look different in MCPE and MCCE? LevitatingSheep (talk) 10:00, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Wither Rose

I noticed that although regular flowers can only be placed on grass and dirt (with exceptions), the Wither Rose can be placed on just about any solid block. These are what I found to be said blocks:

Grass/Dirt, Coarse Dirt, Mycelium and Podzol
Bedrock
All (upside down) Stairs and Slabs
Any Wood, Log, Plank, Stripped Wood or Stripped Log
Stone, Cobblestone, Smooth Stone, and Stone Bricks (plus Cracked and Chiseled) - their Mossy variants, too
Granite, Diorite and Andesite, plus their Polished variants.
Netherrack, red and normal Nether Bricks, Soul Sand, Nether Wart block, Magma and Obsidian
Sandstone, Chiseled Sandstone, Cut Sandstone and Smooth Sandstone, plus their Red variants
Gravel, Sand and Red Sand
Clay and Bricks
Sponge, both wet and dry
Any Coral blocks, normal or dead
Melons, Jack-o-Lanterns and both Pumpkin variants
Hay, Mushroom, Kelp, Slime and Bone blocks
All Ores (including Quartz) and their mineral blocks, plus the Quartz variants
End Stone and Bricks, plus Purpur Blocks and Pillars
Prismarine (plus Bricks and Dark)
Snow, Blue Ice and Packed Ice
All Concrete, Powder, Terracotta, Glazed, and Wool blocks
All Shulker Boxes, regardless of rotation (top-facing ones have the lid go through the Wither Rose when opened)
Note Block, Jukebox and Redstone Lamp
Bookcase, Smoker, Blaster Furnace, Furnace, Loom, Barrel, and all Tables (except Enchanting)
Dispenser, Dropper, Hopper, Dropper, and Piston + Sticky, regardless of rotation

Notes: The hopper is the only block the Wither Rose can be placed on where it looks like it's floating in mid-air. When a piston is extended, the rose will break off of the block unless it's on the bottom, in which case it breaks off once the piston is retracted again.

I feel like this information should be included somewhere, truncated or in a list if need be. AgentParadox (talk) 13:17, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

It's great you tested all this (of course). But speaking of "truncated," that might be: "anything it Can't be (Placed upon)?" ; might make the List shorter. Yilante 4 /8 /19 1:02 p.m. 76.209.248.192 20:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Split the Wither Rose?

The result of the discussion was Do not split.

As stated in the tag, the Wither Rose is very different from the other flowers. It’s obtained in a different way, it damages players, and it can be pushed onto any block with a piston. 99.203.11.88 20:33, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

I personally think that the wither rose should be split apart from other flowers for the fact that it is almost completely different. I hope others agree. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 73.184.69.153 (talk) at 0:40, 05 August 2019 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Strong Oppose. It's not that different. And the piston behavior seems to be Bedrock exclusive. Regardless of damaging players, it's still a flower. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 03:38, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Considering that the Wither Rose shares nothing with the other flowers bar it's similar texture style and blocks in can be placed on; it should be split off. --Hyacinthical (talk) 03:00, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

It also makes dyes, can be used in suspicious stew, and is included in the 'small_flowers' tag. The only really different behaviors are its wither effect and its lack of natural generation, which aren't enough to warrant a split imo. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 03:48, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Oppose per PancakeIdentity. -BDJP ^(t|c) 03:23, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Support. Wither roses are not natural plants and do not have a variety of colors. They don't even fit the definition of Flowers on this page.--kaniol T▣C 12:29, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

The only other flowers that have multiple colors are tulips. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 03:24, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Support “Flowers” is really a conceptual term. If this were enough to put pages together, then we would have to merge stone, cobblestone, stone bricks, granite, andesite, diorite, and possibly more blocks. These blocks do not have enough “real” similarities to be merged (I am not sure why we even put smooth stone into the same page).

@PancakeIdentity: Ink sacs and cocoa beans can also be crafted into dyes, but they are not flowers. Furthermore, the block IDs do not determine whether to merge or split pages, as few readers even look at data values. In fact, the chemistry tables all have the chemistry_table ID, but they are not the same block. The Blobs 13:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

If we were to have a page called "Stones", then yeah, those pages would be together. But we don't. This is about the type of blocks that are flowers, and in my mind, to split the Wither Rose, you'd have to make an arguement that it is not actually a flower. Also, the tag information was more about showing that Mojang views this block as a flower, not saying that blocks with the same ID should be together. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 03:24, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Neutral. Sure, Wither Rose can be split off, but since it's Wither Rose, I guess players just treat it as a special flower, having some different behaviors. --LakeJason (Talk • Contribs) 14:11, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Strong Support Why they are together is not to my knowledge. You obtain them differently, you use them differently in crafting, they have different properties on most blocks, etc etc. Cuzphysics (talk) 19:45, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Actual question, how do you use them differently in crafting? -PancakeIdentity (talk) 03:24, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Admittedly, they are not used very differently in crafting; while they do have different effects for suspicious stew and create different dyes, all flowers do that. However, it’s obtained in a vastly different fashion than the others, and unlike the smooth variants of stone, are not used in crafting recipes for each other. While Coal and Charcoal are obtained in different ways, they have the exact same purpose outside of one creating a block of coal. The Wither Rose not only crafts into a dye that I don’t believe any other flower does (unless there’s another black flower), it also deals the wither effect when stood on. If anything, it’s properties are more similar to a berry bush when placed than another flower. 184.181.102.188 04:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Comment If we split the wither rose we should split all other flowers too. We can't just have a page on "flower (except wither rose)". Nixinova T C 05:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Comment Just gonna say, I recognize all the differences. However, I think to split only the wither rose, you'd have to make an arguement that it is not a flower, which it clearly is. I'd support splitting all the pages and leaving this as disambiguation, but not just splitting the wither rose. (Also note, its only unique properties are its lack of natural generation and its effect. Plenty of other flowers make unique dyes.) -PancakeIdentity (talk) 05:52, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Comment The issue with splitting all of the flowers is that aside from the wither rose, they all share pretty much the same generation rules outside of a few biome restrictions, and function-wise are all used to make different dyes and suspicious stews. If the only logical answer to splitting the Wither Rose is splitting all of the flowers, then we should probably find a way around it. It ends up being inconsistent with the likes of grass and fern. 184.181.102.188 10:01, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

All the 1-block flowers (except the wither rose) are essentially the same plant from different biomes. Similarly, the 2-block flowers are all the same. Otherwise, the only difference is the dye you get. Honestly, the dyes should be merged, especially since the blue, white, brown, and black dyes became separate items in Village and Pillage. It would not make sense to have "1-block flower", "2-block flower", and "wither rose" pages; readers who are new to flowers would not know about different flower heights. I guess readers new to flowers would also search “flower” if they want to learn about wither roses. The Blobs 17:46, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Oppose this particular split per Nixinova and PancakeIdentity. I am not certain whether this discussion is a valid place for determining whether this article should be split completely, but I wish to state that I am currently neutral regarding such a split and would support it if more flowers with unique properties were added. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 15:41, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Support the split of the Wither rose because it's not just a reskinned flower. It has unique properties and is obtained in a vastly different way. --176.246.109.144 12:05, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

The 2-block flowers are also obtained differently, and have different properties (they cannot be placed in flower pots, they cannot be snowlogged in Bedrock Edition). The Blobs 14:29, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Summary of thoughts so far

This discussion is pretty large, so I thought I'd take time to just summarize what's been said so far for easier reading. Essentially, the people supporting the split are saying the wither rose is different enough from other flowers due to its lack of natural generation and unique properties of giving the wither effect. The people opposing the split are saying that the similarities to other flowers outweigh the differences, and that the differences are not enough to warrant a split.

Now for my thoughts, I think this comes down to two things. To split the page, you'd have to argue that the wither rose is not actually a flower, and that it's better for the average reader for the wither rose to have its own page. It's pretty obvious that Mojang considers the wither rose a flower. It's in the "flowers" tag and bees consider it a flower. The idea of having "unique properties" is not unique to the wither rose, as The Blobs pointed out. The average player likely expects the wither rose to be under the flowers page. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 16:47, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

As the one who started this discussion in the first place, I’d like to withdraw from the discussion and say that I’ve changed my mind. You brought up a legitimately good point that the average reader will expect the wither rose to be grouped with the other flowers, no matter how different it is. However, if more flowers with unique properties and generation rules (or lack thereof) start to exist in the future, then those may end up being split with the wither rose. 184.181.102.188 19:02, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Mushroom Fields and Flowers

I'm unsure if anyone else experience's this phenomenon, but I have noticed in a small scale test that there aren't really any flowers showing up from bone meal in mushroom fields. Can anyone verify or disprove? BananaTassium46373 (talk) 20:09, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

  Yes! i am having this too Hipsterhydra (talk) 20:25, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Foodstuff Recipe?

The flower page is in the Category:Foodstuff recipe, for the recipe for suspicious stew. This causes the suspicious stew recipe to appear twice on Crafting/Foodstuffs. Unlike everything else in the category, this is an ingredient rather than the food item you get from crafting. Should it be removed? 24.60.124.208 22:15, 9 June 2020 (UTC)