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Consistency in "Pre-Release" Capitalization

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Article titles should follow the official name. Pre-release and Pre-Release spelling appear in different dates. However, feel free to create redirects from r -> R and vise versa.Humiebeetalk contribs 21:25, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

While editing the server.properties page, I noticed that there is considerable inconsistency in how "Pre-Release" is capitalized across the wiki. Some pages choose to uppercase the "R" in "Release", some do not. Some choose to redirect the opposite case, some do not.

For example, 1.14.4 Pre-Release 1 is an uppercase "R" and trying to navigate to "1.14.4 Pre-release 1" fails. On the other hand, 1.16.4 Pre-release 1 is a lowercase "r", and trying to navigate to "1.16.4 Pre-Release 1" similarly fails. Some pages (e.g. 1.15 Pre-release 5) have a redirect but many do not. The net effect of this is that editors have no idea which capitalization is "correct", or even which one will work correctly. It leads to overall inconsistency and unnecessary redirects across the Wiki.

My suggestion is for the Wiki to come to a consensus on which capitalization should be used. Personally, I feel that "Pre-Release" with an uppercase "R" should be preferred, as that is what Mojang uses in its official communications. Once consensus is reached, incorrect pages should be moved to the correct title, and any errant capitalization in article bodies fixed.

AMNOTBANANAAMA (talk) 23:48, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

The name of pre-releases follow the name in-game, so  Weak oppose The Great Spring (talk | contribs) (Tagalog translation) 23:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
If the decision is to prefer "pre-release" as the page names I am fine with that, as long as it is consistent. The current inconsistency is my primary concern, ultimately which one is chosen is less important to me. AMNOTBANANAAMA (talk) 00:01, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
For example, if you want to put this at the start it would be

1.16.4 Pre-release 1 (known as 1.16.4-pre1 in the launcher) is the first pre-release for Java Edition 1.16.4, released on October 15, 2020, which adds the social interactions screen and fixes two bugs.

instead of

1.16.4 Pre-Release 1 (known as 1.16.4-pre1 in the launcher) is the first pre-release for Java Edition 1.16.4, released on October 15, 2020, which adds the social interactions screen and fixes two bugs.

The Great Spring (talk | contribs) (Tagalog translation) 00:10, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
We follow the in-game names, so they are not to be moved. However, feel free to make redirects for the opposite capitalization. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 09:32, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

More Facts In Did You Know...

On the main page, the Did You Know... section always has the same 5 facts. I think it would be neat if there was a large pool of random facts and every time the page loads, it picks a random 5 from that list. Any thoughts would be appreciated! || Remember this thing? File:Nether Reactor Core Revision 1.png Because I do. --Ninji2701 03:17, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

The did you know relies on a certain template, Template:DidYouKnow. It does not always have the same facts, it refreshes every day. There are not 5 facts, here are all the facts. If you want to add more facts, you can add them in the editcopy. Keep in mind you can edit the editcopy and add what you think is good, but it will not show up on the front page until an admin decides they belong there. Blockofnetherite Talk Contributions 04:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Oh, cool! I guess this topic is totally irrelevant then. || Remember this thing? File:Nether Reactor Core Revision 1.png Because I do. --Ninji2701 13:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Repurpose

I personally think that the template should show more than 5 facts. It could show 7 facts instead of 5. The reason is that the Minecraft Wiki/editcopy page shows too few facts on the template, so if we increase a little bit the amount of facts this can be solved. Thejoaqui777 (talk) 23:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Splitting PS4 history

Recenty, RondiMarco splits the PS4 part from the LCE section without discussion. Can we split the PS4 part or not? Any thoughts? The Great Spring (talk | contribs) (Tagalog translation) 12:11, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

 Neutral, while it is done the same with PE and bedrock, PS4 is a legacy console edition, as it was also replaced by bedrock. I don't see harm in doing it this way, nor harm in reverting it. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 12:13, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 Oppose PS4 is part of LCE, no reason to split its history.  Nixinova T  C   19:29, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 Comment I get your point, but the PS4 edition outlasted all the other Legacy Console editions, and was the only legacy console version to have the Texture Update. James Haydon (talk) 19:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Barely, only for like 10 updates.  Nixinova T  C   21:27, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
True, they only spanned 1.14, or Bedrock Edition 1.8.0 - 1.13.0.Humiebeetalk contribs 21:30, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 Weak support becuase of consistancy with pe and be but it is part of lce and is diffferent than pe and be as they are separated until the Better Together Update but ps4 IS part of lce. Idk, I would keep it though.Humiebeetalk contribs 21:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC) 22:21, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

5000 content pages milestone

I just wanted to say that I noticed, as of now, Special:Statistics lists exactly 5,000 content pages on this wiki. Amatulic (talk) 03:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

I noticed that a few days back, so you aren't the first to see this. James Haydon (talk) 04:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
BDJP007301 created the 5000th article yesterday. Also, does this also includes deleted pages? TheGreatSpring (talk) 04:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
It does not, hence why it has become this milestone several times already. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 05:53, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Well there are subpages of articles which are not articles (many of them are templates only meant to be transcluded on one page) which are counted as articles, which means there are probably less than 5,000 "proper" articles. (Note that redirects, project pages, template pages, category pages, file pages, user pages, etc. are not counted as articles. )Fadyblok240 (talk) 17:36, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Should Caves & Cliffs features in Bedrock Edition be considered from 1.17.0 or from 1.16.210 in history sections

There's a bit of a inconsistency with Caves & Cliffs features in added in the betas of 1.16.X in the form of Experimental Gameplay, for example, this is the history section for pointed dripstone:

Upcoming Bedrock Edition
1.17.0beta 1.16.210.56Pointed Dripstone Base (D) JE1 BE1 Pointed Dripstone Middle (D) JE1 BE1 Pointed Dripstone Frustum (D) JE1 BE1 Pointed Dripstone Tip (D) JE1 BE1 Pointed Dripstone Tip Merge (D) JE1 BE1
Pointed Dripstone Base (U) JE1 BE1 Pointed Dripstone Middle (U) JE1 BE1 Pointed Dripstone Frustum (U) JE1 BE1 Pointed Dripstone Tip (U) JE1 BE1 Pointed Dripstone Tip Merge (U) JE1 BE1 Pointed Dripstone (item) BE1 Added pointed dripstone.

However, this is the history section for goats:

Bedrock Edition
1.16.200beta 1.16.200.52Goat BE1 Goat BE1 Added goats and kids, which are available only via Experimental Gameplay.
Goats make the sound of a player being hit.
Goats currently uses the vex's charging sound as a placeholder when preparing to ram charge.[1]
releaseGoats have been made inaccessible in the full release.
Upcoming Bedrock Edition
1.16.210beta 1.16.210.51Goats now only drop 2 goat horns each.
Goats now drop 1-2 mutton.
Goat (one horn) BE1 Goat (no horn) BE1 Goats now show missing goat horns in the model.
Baby goats now have half knockback when using a ram attack.
Goats no longer attack armor stands.[2]
Goats now attack shulkers.
Goats now only produce one baby goat at a time when breeding.
beta 1.16.210.53Goats now avoid walking onto powder snow while path-finding.
  1. BE-104156
  2. MCPE-104159 — "Goat attacks armor stands" — resolved as "Fixed".

Notice how the former shows the features as a part of 1.17.0, while the latter shows it as part of 1.16.200 and 1.16.210. I prefer the former option as the Caves & Cliffs features added in the betas of 1.16.X don't end up in the full release, but instead will be a part of 1.17.0.

Unavailablehoax (talk) 23:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

I  Support to use the first, because the features won't be part of 1.16.x releases, and it's more specific. Thejoaqui777 (talk) 23:54, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
They are part of the 1.16.210 betas, and it should be declared that way. Saying the beta is for 1.17 is false information. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 00:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Should say 1.16.210, with "added under experimental gameplay", then 1.17 with "fully implemented".  Nixinova T  C   00:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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