Minecraft Wiki talk:Directors

Style
Ultradude25 made a pretty cool skin for the wiki, please try it out and give your opinion about it.

To try out on EN: @import "/index.php?title=User:Ultradude25/minecraft.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css";

To try out on other languages: @import "http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=User:Ultradude25/minecraft.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css";

Put one of these on top of your userstyle and refresh your cache if needed.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  14:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Nice, Minecraftstyle. Looks a lot like the forums now. I like that.
 * Unbelievable that nobody thought of it sooner.
 * The only problem now is the grey text beneath minecraftwiki logo is hard to read now. A solution is to put that text above the cube.
 * It has a few problems more on the dutch wiki, like the horizontal menu that slide behind each other when the screen gets to small. CrazyBliep -  NL Admin  15:59, 27 Januari 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, I updated the logo with brighter white lettering, I think it is better now, it doesn't get lost in the brown background. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  15:46, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, pretty good! It's just an error at the "watchlist" button at german. picture -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 16:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah. It's not the german wiki, it's the german language pack -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 16:27, 27 January 2012 (UTC)


 * The reason for that is the text is pushed out to the side so it can't be seen (for screen readers, I guess), but obviously the text for your watchlist button is much longer than the English version. I'll just push it out further. (also, what is happening with the view history tab? Could that be a problem with length again?)


 * I think I need some help with colours in the content area (things like tables/diffs/etc. Styling of templates like infobox can come after the skin is applied globally). Right now, I just grabbed colours for various parts of the forums, and while mostly I think it looks alright, Wyn pointed out that the colour doesn't go with the mcwiki-header/logo colour.
 * I'm not really sure what to change, but I really do think they do need to be coloured, or at least made darker. The default vector colours look too light against the darker background, and the things with white backgrounds I find too bright. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 00:20, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think it needs to be changed at all. I think the white background for tables and infoboxes works just fine. Oh... that's right.. they are using yours not mine, so if you still have all the funky colors then what they are seeing is different than what I am seeing.... -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  00:59, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I just found a little problem with this new style. I made a screenshot of it. Text and background have the samen color here, so you cant read the text anymore. --STS(t 09:55, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * That's not modified by the style. What OS are you on? It looks like this to me. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 10:13, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * @Wyn: I've commented out the colour changes until we've found something agreeable. You might want to update your copy of the style, since I've made some other colour un-related changes.
 * Perfectly, my problem is solved. -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 11:34, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Screenshot was taken using Google Chrome on win7. I tested it with default style and it has the same problem there, so not your fault. --STS(t 13:40, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Today I worked at the class "mcwiki-header". Here's my result: picture
 * Infobox_common & common.css -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 11:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not really a big fan of the forum's header. Although the current header colour does seem slightly too blue against the background.
 * In other news, I'm still having problems with the tab collapsing. The javascript seems at fault, it can't handle the tabs having padding or margins. I would attempt to fix it, but I have no idea where to find the script responsible... It's strange because even if you move any padding/margins to the span and a, so the li is left with no margin or padding, it still gets itself stuck in a loop. I would think the script would only need to look at the li to find the tab size, and if it did, moving the margin/padding to elements within the li, instead of the li itself, should fix this bug. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 12:01, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Keep in mind that it is known that there are some css anomalies in 1.17. I believe most of these have been addressed and corrected in 1.18, so hopefully, we might see these issues go away once the wikis get upgraded. Oliver, I can't see any of the screenshots you are posting, I get a 403 Forbidden error. you might want to try a different image host. Also, there is no plan to change the blue header to match the brown headers on the forum, I hate them, and the blue header is the tie in for our logo. -- Wynthyst  talk  23:49, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * The 403 Forbidden error is a problem with Imgur; I suspect it happens due to incorrectly configured hotlink disabling (and at any rate, it can be fixed by just clicking in the address bar and hitting ). I'd agree, though, until Imgur fixes this problem, another image host would be preferable. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I've already tested this skin on 1.18, and it still has the tab bug. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 02:35, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah sorry Wyn, I see. New picture at the right side. (yes, it's an imgur problem) -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 16:03, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I've test the theme on english and french wiki. It's really nice. But there is one problem: the drop-down list for the search bar is not showing… – Scaler (t) 10:51, 15 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Drop down for the search bar? Am I missing something? -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  10:52, 15 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, it is showing but far on the right outside of the screen, so I didn't saw it ^^" (see capture: ). Maybe it's due to my low screen resolution on my laptop (1280×800px).
 * By the way, the top and bottom banners (.atflb and .btflb css classes) with a 1200px width are overflowing outside of the screen (1200 + ~170 of the left side bar > 1280). – Scaler (t) 12:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The search box placement is decided on page load, but I needed to move the search box, so I guess it broke that (this happens on default vector too, if you resize the window without re-loading the page). I'll see if I can fix it, but this doesn't happen on 1.18. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 13:01, 15 February 2012 (UTC)


 * This should be fixed now. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 01:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Is it bug free and we can add it? -- Oliver Scholz  Wiki Admin 15:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * There is some areas I'm not 100% happy with, but for the most part it is ready. However, it can not be added until all the languages agree to it. I was going to post on each wiki, but I was unable to log into some of them, and I haven't had a chance it try again. You can try if you want, I would recommend including the top part of this topic with the gallery and how to test the skin (obviously don't need to include the en version :P).


 * I'll quickly update the gallery with the skin on 1.18, since there are some minor changes to the search area. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 15:31, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Bad idea, I have to upload the three pictures. I will test itself. -- Oliver Scholz  Wiki Admin 15:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * result: here -- Oliver Scholz  Wiki Admin 16:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * result: here -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 16:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I didn't mean the skin needed testing on the other languages, I know it works on all of them as long as they use compact search (and for those ones that don't, that's for Wyn to sort out).
 * The admins/community of the languages have to agree to switch to the skin, since Curse wants all the languages using the same theme. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 16:06, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, now I got it. -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 16:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, I just thought of a way to support the default search. I'm going to do some tests now. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 16:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Pretty Cool. Now it's a really MINECRAFT Wiki [= (but of course we can use our logo (MCWikiPL Logo)?)  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  16:59, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Your logo is minecrafty, so it should still fit.


 * I have restricted the styling to the simple search, so now the basic search is usable, but uses the default styling. I'll see if I can give it similar styling to the simple search now. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 17:02, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Tried it on Chinese Wiki, looks pretty nice, although the "Minecraft Wiki" text under the logo seems to be not visible.---Powup333  ZH Admin  17:13, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * If you tried it using show preview, that will happen. Show preview seems to order the style under the wiki's vector.css, instead of over it, so the wiki's logo overwrites the skin's logo. Everything should work when you view it normally though. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 17:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Language wikis down
Several of the language wikis are currently down. This is being addressed by our tech team and we expect everything to be back up very soon. -- Wynthyst  talk  03:45, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This should be resolved now. Please let me know if there are still problems. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  04:36, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

MC logo at our mainpage
At the German "editcopy" page someone has inserted the Minecraft logo into the text. What do you think? A good idea? -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 21:12, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


 * It needs alt text for readers who view the wiki with images disabled (whether by choice, or because they are unable to view images - for instance, readers using a screen reader). Other than that, it's an interesting idea. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Maybe a caption is the solution?: Mclogo.png --  <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 19:41, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's what I was talking about. =) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I post the same question at our Community portal, maybe some users also write opinions. -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 16:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Wiki Update
Greetings! I'm please to tell you all that the much awaited upgrade to 1.18.1 is happening tomorrow. There should be no downtime, just a short period where the wikis will be read-only. We will start with the English one and move through all of the language wikis until we are done. Please place an appropriate site notice for your communities. Thanks! -- Wynthyst  talk  02:00, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Tomorrow or today? Because the site notice you placed says 8 march (that means today), but your are talking about tomorrow here... --STS(t 15:30, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, any date/time would be in US CST. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  18:31, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Bugs with MediaWiki 1.18.1
On french wiki there is those "bugs": – Scaler (t) 20:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * search bar with the default vector "go/search" button.
 * the curse icon next to the username doesn't load ("GET http://fr.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/W/extensions/Curse/Icons/Flame.png [HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found 407ms]"). css problem fixed front end.-- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  14:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * left menu sections are not collapsible.
 * when blocking an IP the last option is "<ipb-hardblock>".
 * on french and english wiki: html code in the recent changes page options when starting from a date : "&amp;lt;namespace_association&amp;gt;" it should be "Associated namespace". Same for the tooltips: "&amp;lt;tooltip-namespace_association&amp;gt;" instead of "Check this box to also include the talk or subject namespace associated with the selected namespace".

- CrazyBliep  (NL Admin) 00:17, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Some wikis doesn't support the setting "Use enhanced recent changes (requires JavaScript)". It wouldn't fold the changes in one. I checked which wiki's got the css colapse problem. It's only the Dutch, German and English one.
 * Special:RecentChanges
 * de:Spezial:Letzte_%C3%84nderungen
 * nl:Speciaal:RecenteWijzigingen
 * Confirmed on the English wiki, changes won't fold.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  17:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * On the page Special:SpecialPages under the topic Users and rights have the words, &lt;blocklist&gt; and &lt;passwordreset&gt;. - CrazyBliep  (NL Admin) 16:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * mw-collapsible won't collapse.


 * I don't think this is a conflict with the external collapsible script, that still works fine. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 10:28, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I am working on a list of "fixes" post upgrade. I have asked for the svg issue to be looked into, and I need a specific list of the wikis this is not working on. I hope to have all of the bugs worked out by the end of the week, but remember we are doing this on every wiki on the network. -- Wynthyst  talk  06:11, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

svg and ogg files should now be available on all wikis, account creation on Korean wiki is fixed, uploading images on Dutch wiki should be fine (I had no problems with it). Ultra, I need examples of where mw-collapse doesn't work to show Tim. -- Wynthyst  talk  14:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

the mw-collapse issue has to be investigated further, it might be tied to the enhanced recent changes problem, so expect neither to be fixed immediately. -- Wynthyst  talk  14:58, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * mw-collapse doesn't work anywhere. Try any of the examples in mediawiki's manual. It does everything, but add the style to the text that needs collapsing, which means nothing actually happens.
 * Here's mediawiki's example, expanded and collapsed. And here's the same example here, expanded and collapsed.


 * Also, that thing with the text being undefined seems to happen in other places too, but only sometimes. If I keep reloading a page, it'll keep toggling between the text being correct and the text being undefined.
 * Some examples: Correct protect button text, wrong protect button text. Correct block page text, wrong block page text. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 15:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The last examples of your top tabs is something that is due to your own personal changes (I use the drop down menu that is standard in vector) so I'm assuming that's got to do with the css stuff. Also, when I ask for examples of how it's not working, I don't mean links to external wikis, I mean places (even your sandbox) where you can demonstrate that it's not working HERE. (sometimes you make me just want to bang my head on my desk....) -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  15:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The tabs are unrelated, all they do is move the menu into tabs, the same undefined text happens with the menu. And I don't know what you're talking about, there's no external wiki involved? – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 15:57, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * This is what Wyn wants: a case in point of mw-collapsible not working on minecraftwiki ^^ – Scaler (t) 16:51, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Progress! mw-collapsible is almost working, however the collapse button throws an error and won't collapse. However expanding data that is collapsed on page load works correctly, it's just the collapse button that won't work. Interestingly though, everything works fine in the watchlist, which seems to use mw-collapsible too.

The error whenever you click the collapse button is: <tt>data.change is undefined on line 16</tt> – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 05:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Grid templates
I made a new javascript for the Grid/... templates. You can see the result on on the Dutch crafting page. Maybe other wikis want to update there templates to this version? The new JavaScript and css can be found on the Dutch MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css. Please let me know what you like/dislike about it. --STS(t 13:50, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I like the idea of pausing, although I don't think you actually need to say pause on it, that should be obvious. One problem is it un-pauses again when you right-click on it and hover over the context menu. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 19:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * What browser are you using? I used google chrome and I don't seem to have that problem. --STS(t 22:42, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems to be a bug specific to Firefox, as it doesn't happen in IE too. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 01:41, 19 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I could not find a good solution for this. The only thing I can do is turning off the context menu for the crafting table, but I don't know if that is what you want.--STS(t 20:37, 21 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Nah that would be bad. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 04:53, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Article count
How does the " Special:Statistics| " works? Because on the Chinese Wiki, it says we only have 114 pages, but clearly we have more than that, so I want to know how does it count the pages?---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 20:22, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Manual:Article count -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 20:25, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks.---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 20:59, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

OggHandler
The Chinese Wiki doesn't have the extension "OggHandler", so on the Music discs (Chinese) page the music cannot be played right on the browser.---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 23:06, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I will request it. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  20:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

BlockCSS
In future I think we get some problems with the Block CSS. New blocks in Minecraft will occupy our used space. Do we want to split the file? -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 20:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not a professional in this, but can't we just make the BlockCSS.png bigger? Because I think spliting it will create many more probems.---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 23:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah that would work, but it'll require all the positions to be changed. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 01:21, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You could just create new rows and keep the old ones? That way no positions needs to be changed, I think. - CrazyBliep   NL Admin  08:16, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The idea is to move all modified images outside of the area the minecraft image takes up, so that none of Mojang's, or our textures have to be moved when those slots are used up. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 08:44, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Something like this ? --  <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 10:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * No they should be the same file, something like this: – ultradude25  ( T &#124; C ) at 11:19, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah agree, much better. But the name is... well :) -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 11:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Only if you have a dirty mind. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 11:27, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * So, do we want to implement this? (en, de and nl at the same time) -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 19:56, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, this will solve all the problems, right? But maybe we can update it with the new image in the new snapshot all the same time? P.S. you missed zh, we will update it too.---Powup333  ZH Admin  22:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * But zh doesn't use en's image database so you're updated separately. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 01:46, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * :) -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 19:31, 31 March 2012 (UTC)