Minecraft Wiki talk:Admin noticeboard

Halfway towards actually making admin pages. Nice.  A CLECTASIS   05:55, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Delete Revision
All administrators now have the ability to delete individual revision in a page's history. You will see the changes on the page history view. This function should be used only in cases where a revision poses some threat to the community at large, such as the malicious link that was recently placed on the Programs and Editors page. If you have any questions regarding the use of this function, please ask. Thanks! -- Wynthyst  talk  20:06, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Template useless due to restrictions

 * discussion moved from noticeboard
 * Look at the following examples (which i made quickly from existing small ASCII diagrams)
 * Tutorials/Nomadic experience
 * Tutorials/Safe Home
 * Tutorials/Airlock
 * Tutorials/List of things to do to your shelter
 * Two that don’t work:
 * Talk:Tutorials/Branch Mining
 * Talk:Tutorials/Tree farming
 * Anti-example
 * Farming
 * You can see how much easier to use it is by the fact that nobody did what you suggested. This is because using is both tiresome and confusing. Also it would produce padding around the tiles. I can’t see any reason not to use a simple template instead of having to do a huge amount of work to get the same done in another way or producing ugly ASCII art which takes only ~10 keystrokes less than my template (For the name and the curly braces). – Flying sheep 13:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * PS: you say on your user page that you like working with templates. Why the harsh critique, then? Don’t you see the clear advantages, if you were the one to create most of the cool templates we use for similar tasks? I try to help the wiki with it, i’m not some sort of “competitor” in templatemaking who does it to “outshine” your work or something.


 * That looks neat and all, but the reason I'm opposed to it is the fact it needs limits upped, which makes it seem like it'd be inefficient. Thus making it better to just use the already existing ones.
 * However, I'd love to see you prove me wrong on that, I don't have any knowledge of how taxing the loops would be, but I'd assume Curse has that set to 100 for a good reason.
 * Also, you should be using the standard doc template. – ultradude25 ( T at 13:35, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, i’ll gladly explain it to you: It needs to loop over every character which has to be transcoded to an image once. Then it retrieves the named parameter with the character name and inserts the BlockSprite for it. This is is one Hashmap lookup more than manually inserting templates. Hashmap lookups have approximately O(1) for small maps. That is the fastest possible execution duration.
 * The limit of 100 is default, so most likely Curse just hasn’t done anything with it.
 * Another solution needs to be more efficient than mine or more easy to use while giving comparably pretty output. Everything else I can think of has worse performance, is ugly, hard to write, or any combination of that. That includes the following solutions:
 * you suggested manually inserting Sprites. That’s a little bit more efficient, but uglier (padding around images), much harder to write, and near impossible to read (Giant blocks of template transclusions)
 * Already used is ASCII-Art, which is more efficient, but much uglier and equally easy to write. You can manually convert this into my template very quickly (rewrite the legend to use proper sprite names, and add a pipe character in front of every line).
 * My alternative template (one parameter per sprite) is again a litte bit more efficient and equally pretty, but harder to write and read (rows · cols more pipe characters to type. That matters.)
 * I’ll use the doc template. I won’t on small templates like Template:FakeImage or Template:Inline, though :) (edit: i see that you have already done this, thanks!)
 * Thanks for not becoming set on your initial opinion, Flying sheep 14:37, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for not becoming set on your initial opinion, Flying sheep 14:37, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Slight aside: from looking at the loop extension documentation and your code, where is the limit being hit? Like, is there a limit of 100 iterations per page that has #loop? Is there a limit of 100 for each call of #loop or what? 'Cause based on a glance at the documentation and your code, it seems like the limit for your template is 100 blocks wide. --JonTheMon 15:16, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * No, the limit is per-Page, not per Loop-invocation. See below. Every time a for- or while-loop is gone through, a counter is increased. When it hits the limit, the all further loops just yield an error text and stop. (You can loop over the arguments for free, which could be exploited to circumvent the limit. It would be difficult and less performant, though.) – Flying sheep 15:35, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Test (2 90-Loops. If the limit is hit in the second run, it is per page, if it isn’t hit at all, the Limit is per transclusion):


 * I'm pretty sure something similar to this could be done using only ParserFunctions and StringFunctions, though the limits built in to StringFunctions may come into play much like the limit in the loop extension currently is. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:37, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * How? I still have to somehow loop over the single characters, and StringFunctions doesn’t have any loops builtin. I could all occurrences of single characters with the appropriate , but again, this would be way less efficient and also the replacement limit is 30.
 * User:ultradude25, could you please answer to my lengthy post above? (Before the “Slight aside”) – Flying sheep 10:34, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

You've made your point and I agree with it. Except for the bit about not using the doc template for small templates, ALL templates should use it for consistency. (plus I like the colour :) – ultradude25 ( T at 12:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Documentation is done. i am itching to convert the rest of the trap schematics :) –Flying sheep 13:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * replace and its replacement limit are basically what I was referring to. When you hit the limit on one #replace, it is possible to break up the replacement into multiple #replaces to get around said limit; I've done this on another wiki. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, he said he was convinced. Before making it overly complicated, I’ll rather wait a day or two. If you can do it, however, without making the code read-only, please do so –Flying sheep 18:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * If I can find some time, I'll certainly try my hand at it; it's an interesting problem and would be the first time I've played with using parameter names provided by the transclusion rather than ones hardcoded into the template itself (though I've seen and, to a limited extent, worked with templates that do as such in the past). =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:47, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Did I mention that this was the first Template I ever made? –Flying sheep 22:14, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * This is being looked at by the Curse tech team to determine what the appropriate changes would be. I'll keep you posted. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  02:57, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It’s been a week, what’s the current consent amongst the team? – Flying sheep 21:30, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I just ran into this problem, googled, found this discussion... Was anything decided regarding this? I was going to use the template to show how trees grow in the game but ran up to the limit quickly. — MK (c/t) 22:39, 22 March 2012 (UTC)


 * It wasn't changed. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 07:54, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update. I have resorted to something that is less pretty, but works :P — MK (c/t) 15:15, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Potential Problem

 * discussion moved from Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard
 * Could've been a rouge advert. Do you happen to be using IE? Or Firefox/Chrome without Adblock installed? – ultradude25 ( T at 02:56, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You may have accidentally clicked on one of the ads at the top middle?  A NNOYING  11:42, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ultra, I am on IE. lol  Annoying, if I did, it took enough time to load for me to scroll to the bottom of the page.  Latrans105 12:33, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Not a good idea, IE isn't secure at all. If the wiki does happen to have a rogue ad, you're going to be screwed over by it. Also, IE doesn't really work properly with the wiki (or most webpages as a matter of fact) as it doesn't really support basic CSS functions like every other browser does. You'll find all the navbox templates are broken in IE as it doesn't understand how nowrap works. – ultradude25 ( T at 23:48, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, were this my machine, I'd have that remedied in a heartbeat. Sadly, not so. Latrans105 17:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)


 * tl;dr: Get Chrome/Firefox. Better yet, try each out for a week and see which works better for you.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  10:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Except that he just said that he has no control over what browser he uses on that computer. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:03, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Woops, didn't catch that one. Latrans105, do you have an USB-stick? If you do, http://portableapps.com/ is your friend. This site provides a lot of applications in a portable form which only requires you to unpack it to a location, and from there you can run it without writing any data at all to the machine you're working on. I've been doing this for years over at school, so I could run Firefox and a few other programs.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  17:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * So.. Correct me if I'm wrong..  Basically, you use the USB instead of the profile the school has set up for you?  Or library or what-have-you?  Latrans105 04:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * All of these portable apps save their settings onto your USB stick so you can do anything you wish; they don't write to the computer's registry which is often blocked by the system administrator. For example, Firefox would write all its bookmarks and settings to its own folder on the USB stick without touching the harddrive of the desktop you're on.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  08:20, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * @All: I don’t wanna be rude, but the OP’s phrase “I closed down the Internet” suggests that (s)he might not have much experience~in operating a computer, so even if a portable Firefox/Chrome is a good idea, (s)he might need a litte assistance in case of problems. Amirite? –Flying sheep 10:41, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Need help please.
How do I get permission to make a new page? I have some redirects I want to make, and have some usefull pictures I can't upload. :( --Yulex2 22:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You have to be part of the Autoconfirmed usergroup, which means registering and confirming an email address, waiting 3 days from when you registered, and making 10 other types of edits. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  22:34, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks! :) --Yulex2 22:42, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
Sorry for my english. Hi, i reverted 3 times the contributions on minecraft wiki/es from the user Ryo because is deleting the correct links name/es, creating bad links in spanish, outdating the article to english in some places and more. I wrote ryo in his talk page all the times explaining the wrong things, but with no changes (we talked in spanish, sorry). Need someone who know spanish to see the contributions and verifies my explanation please, thanks. In second place, i want to be admin from the spanish translation, what may i do? thanks again. Milogullon 09:05, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your efforts Milogullon. Once the Spanish translation project has completed enough pages, it will be given it's own subdomain. At that time, Users who prove active and responsible will be promoted to admin to oversee the Spanish subdomain. I will definitely keep you in mind, and be watching your continued efforst. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  10:29, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Thans for your time. Milogullon 13:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Could I ever get promoted/noticed for great effort???
I am starting to contribute a lot with pictures and info I find everywhere.

I just want to know if I could get recognized or something?

Araimos 22:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)Araimos

No. Read the Screenshot Fixing project. No pictures at night time, first. Also, replace old images with new ones rather than adding new ones. I added screenshots too : am I widely recognized? Is my name on minecraft.net ? C ali nou - talk × contribs » 22:11, 20 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Contributing to a wiki should not be about recognition, it should be about making the resource better for the entire community. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  00:32, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

will sponge come back
hi i made this because i like sponge but i find out that it's not in the new virsion and i wanted to no why it has been taken off of minecraft becuase what if you wanted to make a home under water where you are safer from mobs and you cant do it becuase you will die and if you don't how else are you ment to do it so who wants sponge or nose how to make a underwater house that won't take like 5 weeks to make and notch if your reading this plz plz put sponge back on thanks. –The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ryanmadman97 (Talk 21:40, 15 July 2011. Please sign your posts with
 * Why asking this here? The wiki has nothing to do with the game development. Ask the Mojang staff… – Scaler (t) 19:51, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Placeholder protection.
Just to notify you if you didn't notice, File:No image.svg the newer place holder image has no protection. also note that there is no longer a need for the old File:No image.png, but it is used in some user name spaces, so you choose if it's a good idea to delete or not.--Yurisho 05:16, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Done. – ultradude25 ( T at 10:33, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

archiving a talk page
Talk:Redstone circuits needs archiving--Yurisho 09:05, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Please use new YouTube embed method (for HTML5 support)
As a user without Flash installed, I request that you please change YouTube embedding (``{#ev:youtube…}``) to use the modern iframe embedding method ( ) instead of object embedding as this increases the range of browsers and devices that can see the video. The iframe method detects the device/browser and will use HTML5 where available. Kroc 16:43, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

How do I resize a frame?
Just read the subject, plz. ajmax8 01:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Page and account block
I tried posting an article and it, along with my account, were blocked, apaprently being a "spam page". I'm not really sure what that is. I could really use some help since I worked relatively hard on this page. Any assistance would be appreciated, -Krauser "Your current IP address is [REDACTED], and the block ID is #2471" –The preceding unsigned comment was added by Krauser11 (Talk 12:34, 30 July 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with
 * Ah. you must be part of the translation team.
 * I do not know how much it is pushed, but translation projects have a rule for newcomers to create pages slowly, rather than the whole thing.
 * To combat spam, the abuse filter checks for large pages with links. this is a fairly common tool. so, posting large translated page with links will get you an automatic ban. it's an issue that we cannot correct.
 * If you'd gladly link me to your userpage account, I can revert the ban. right now, if you'd like.
 * Also, rule of thumb, never post your IP online. ever.--Kizzycocoa 12:39, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Krauser1129 And thanks for the IP thing, I completly spaced it. It took quite a while to find out how to post and told me to include that information. Is there a link to how I'm "suppose" to make this page? I'm rather...horrible at navigating your site. –The preceding unsigned comment was added by Krauser11 (Talk 13:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * I've had an extensive list of IPs I've edited from, posted online for quite some time and never had any ill come of it (obviously, I'm not trying to claim everyone choosing to disclose such information would have such an easy time of it, but generally, if you're not doing anything to draw attention to yourself, letting your IP slip once or twice probably won't come back to bite you), and you wouldn't believe how easy it can be to obtain a random person's IP if you're really that set on getting it. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:31, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Better safe than sorry. :P


 * unblocked. also, I'm not sure. the project portal for languages, I'd assume. --Kizzycocoa 21:26, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Major article cleanup
Hello, I would like to perform a major cleanup of the http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance article. Use proper units, fix grammar errors, fix missing links, etc. However, since it is a major cleanup, it requires administrator permission. Hereby I ask you for the permission. Thank you.

Here you can see my example edit of said article: http://pastebin.com/ndywWbK4


 * You don't need permission to do so, just [ go ahead and do it]! ;) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:47, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

This is the problem I get: "This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please contact an administrator, and inform them of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Large deletion from article by new editors"

Failed at moving Lapis Lazuli (Ore)
I failed at moving the Lapis Lazuli (Ore) page, and therefore messed up the template. Could an admin revert my failz0r?

EmeraldGem 20:03, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Problems with Abuse filter
Um.. I was blocked for some reason while editing the Splash Potion page. Will an admin please unblock me? I just want to finish editing what I was gonna do, then I'll just leave. Cause I don't see why I should stay and keep editing if I'm going to be banned for a little thing like this. The Abuse filter should be fixed cause this kind of stuff drives people away...(-.-) and I'm kinda pissed too.. -Asterick6 07:21, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


 * It banned you because of the word that comes in between molotov and tail. It certainly does need fixing. I don't really get why every action it takes is instant infinite block, it should at least tell you what was wrong first (except for the solely spam filters, they can stay infinite). – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 10:03, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The options are to ban or not to ban, since there is only a single ban length available for the abuse filters. I am sorry that you were erroneously caught by the filter, and I hope you change your mind about leaving, but you also must see it from the other side. This wiki gets over 4.5 million page views a day. There is no admin team in the world that could manually check each and every edit performed 24/7 to try to maintain the high quality of information we provide for the entire Minecraft community, we have opted to implement some automatic aids (the abuse filters). No matter how well we write these filters, they will never be either 100% effective, or 100% accurate, so we do what we can to minimize the difficulties they cause legitimate users. Please feel free to use this page to contact the administrators any time you have a problem or issue and we will address it as quickly as we can. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  10:33, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks for addressing this. But aren't there other tools that you guys could use as well? Maybe a different type of filter that is more flexible? Maybe take a moderation tool from wikipedia and change it a bit for this wiki? I'm just guessing cause I don't really know about the software that this wiki uses. Thanks for your dedication tho, the admins, and staff. - Asterick6 22:47, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


 * If you tried to post the exact same thing you posted the first time you were blocked, you're going to get blocked again. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  02:09, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Mob Page
I noticed the mob page has been locked for editing. I commented sometime ago regarding some features that were updated with passive mobs in hopes that whomever has the power to update that page would.

The page is still locked and I have noticed, not been updated. Can this page be updated please.

--Mystara 23:54, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * This page is locked to non-users and users with fewer than five edits. due to spam, it must be kept this way. --Kizzycocoa 00:05, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Mods/Runecraft
Im currently fighting versus a griefer, he writes, i undo! help me edit: The griefer was before an ip, and now he is goofdizzle and now joy.strip who is griefing s-trip NaNdummy 07:07, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Need admin help with a page revision.
By the time that this is read, it may have already been fixed. The page http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Brewing was edited to include "HAHA I DID YOUR MOM 2 WEEKS AGO IN A FLEA MARKET" about fifty times in the "General Guide to Brewing" section. I tried to undo it, but my action was seen as harmful due to it being a large deletion. Amphelios 13:31, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

They fixed it.Doggey 13:05, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

The weakly version has changed
The weakly version has changed from 12w05a to 12w05b.
 * Nope. It's still a. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 22:12, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Friends list
I think you guys should add a friends list because everything is just too seroius. We need to have a little more fun by giving people the abilibilty to be able to have people as friends lol Doggey
 * You can feel free to create your own friends list on your userpage. This is a wiki, not a social networking media. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  21:18, 10 February 2012 (UTC)



I'm sorry.
Hi. I'm the MC player 4x4x4 and I would like to talk to the admins with this discussion board that I apologize and I'm sorry for the following messing-up of articles: 1.Saying in the infiniminer page that game was dumb. 2.Deleting the infiniminer talk page's entire text. 3.Random Spam in the texture pack page, I didn't mean that threat and I'm not really an anon. I hope you accept this apology. Thank you.

The Deleted Mummy Page
I've noticed that in the little box-thing at the bottom of the page, there is a link to "Mummy", which is now a deleted page (it's in the "Planned Mobs" section). I do not know how to edit it, so I thought I'd put it here. Feel free to delete this topic after it is finished (I hope this is not the wrong place). –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.24.0.236 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 01:11, 28 March 2012. Please sign your posts with
 * Fixed. -- Orthotope 02:54, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Discussion moved from Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard
 * That's the way you see it. I see Moxxy cleaning a lot of bad things. I don't think that banning is an option here. Moxxy did a good job helping this wiki. Just like you are doing. You both have clearly some opinions on things. You say that Moxxy had some disputes with other people, but you too had that. If you want to ban Moxxy I suggest a ban for you too at the same time. You two are the same on this wiki, but need to discuss your attitude against each other. - CrazyBliep   NL Admin  06:53, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well how about a week-long/month-long ban for all involved editors or something if this issue gets worse. And I still haven't stopped editing even though I really should...pretty much addicted or something. - Asterick6 (talk) 21:48, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The person I "attacked" was Asterick6 and I told him to piss off because you were on my page telling me that I'm a noob who doesn't belong on this wiki. If you look at talk pages for ones like book and quill he comes into a discussion I'm having with someone else and just calls me stubborn without even mentioning the topic at hand. Go to my talk page. He's blatantly harassing me and insulting me. --Moxxy 12:53, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Blatantly harassing? No, you are always removing content and being a deletionist. I let you know about the way you are editing and about your editing trend moving towards deleting everything, and you immediately attack me for doing that (Shut up? Piss off?) and continue to be stubborn about the way you edit. And I originally thought you were a noob until you just informed me that you started back in 2010, and I actually checked your earliest contributions. My first impression from the Spike talk page was that you were a new editor, and I kept that impression of you until now (thought you were a good guy). Sorry for misunderstandings, but I am also getting pissed because of the way you are handling things. - Asterick6 (talk) 21:48, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * You've both made a lot of good contributions, and clearly have strong opinions on what the wiki should be; unfortunately, those opinions do not always agree. Given that this conflict has become personal, I think it would be best if you both try to ignore and not respond to each other for a week or two. In the future, please try to resolve disagreements more civilly and with less emotion. I'd rather not have this result in ban(s) or one of you quitting the wiki entirely. -- Orthotope 10:56, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

CATPTCHA not working
Moved from Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard

That darn CATPTCHA triggered when doing some edits as anon IP doesn't work. Even when selecting all the cats, it's triggered again and again.
 * Yes - I can tell cats from dogs.
 * No - I cannot login since I'm at work and want to stay more or less anonymous while procrastinating at work. --80.134.11.253 08:02, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It doesn't seem to work in IE9. Use something else. –ultradude25 (T&#124;C) at 08:06, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Using FF 13.0 all the time... --80.134.11.253 08:20, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Don't know then. IE9 is the only browser that's ever been reported as having a problem. –ultradude25 (T&#124;C) at 08:30, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * FF has a few issues at times from what i have seen first hand. Mostly with web sites like BB app-world; but i have had issues with anti-bot systems from time to time. Mostly with high demand web sites though (i.e. Facebook; some Wikis [like in this case by the sounds of it]; xbox.com and ect.) For now i would say go with google chrome and see if you are still having problems (and yes i realize you may not be able to down-load it onto a work PC/Linux/Mac but it's worth a shot). --Ichi (Talk) 09:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your tips, but maybe I should more work and less procrastinate. Maybe your tips will help other users. --80.134.11.253 10:47, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Lol no problem and that might be a good idea :P --Ichi (Talk) 17:42, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I also hate to burst your bubble, but you are more anonymous when you are logged in than not as your IP is easily traceable back to your employer. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  18:07, 4 July 2012 (UTC)