Minecraft Wiki talk:Projects/Highlighting Edition-Specific Information

The &#123;&#123;Xbox&#125;&#125; and &#123;&#123;Pocket&#125;&#125; Templates
I notice that this issue was raised on the CP back in February 2013, but was never responded to. I have had the &#123;&#123;Xbox&#125;&#125; template page open in my browser for the last couple of weeks while I decide how best to address the issue. Does anybody have any suggestions? I notice that currently the &#123;&#123;Xbox&#125;&#125; template is only linked from three pages. The &#123;&#123;Pocket&#125;&#125; template is currently linked from 11 pages. It would probably be best if we could deprecate these two templates in favour of the new, smaller, compact icons that will be templated as part of the HESI project. Comments anyone? &mdash; Augur &#x2710; 18:32, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm now wondering whether we should be keeping these templates as they are, for use only on pages that are exclusively Edition-specific, as in, the entire content of the page is only relevant to a specific Edition of Minecraft, other than the PC platform. Thoughts anyone? &mdash; Augur &#x2710; 15:57, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Which MCPE icon to use?
In one of my sandboxes, I have started building a collection of icons that already exist on the Minecraft Wiki. It isn't going to be as simple as grabbing an icon and running with it though. I see there are historical discussions (such as ) about which icon to use for what. The HESI project needs to respect decisions that have been made in the past, while reviewing them to ensure they are still relevant and still applicable. The decision that was linked to above seems to have settled on the Minecraft PE app icon. I'm wondering though, how that icon would look as a small, in-text icon? Let's take a look. Yeah, see, I'm not convinced that it is readily identifiable at such a small size. Looks to me (with my aging eyes) just like the grass block icon. The other options may be the Phone or the Smartphone icons as mentioned in the historic discussion. There is also a Mobile Only icon. Let's see them all as in-text items. These are only the current versions of each image. I don't want to re-open the edit warring that had previously occurred with the Phone.svg file. I note that this "historical" debate was only resolved on 7 January 2013, not long ago at all, really, so I apologise in advance for dredging it back up again. What I do need is some advice on which of these icons looks the most identifiable as a MCPE or mobile platform icon for use in-text. My personal preference is for the Mobile Only icon. Sure, it looks chunky and rectangular and bland. I know. But I think it is sufficiently different from other platform-oriented icons, such as the Xbox 360 icon, the Xbox One icon, or other confusing images such as in-game blocks. What do other people think? &mdash; Augur &#x2710; 19:22, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * McPeLogo.png This is the Minecraft PE app icon at 25 pixels.
 * Phone.svg This is Phone.svg at 25 pixels.
 * Smartphone.svg This is Smartphone.svg at 25 pixels.
 * MobileOnly.png This is MobileOnly.png at 25 pixels.
 * An additional alternative is to use the phone icon from the Farm-Fresh Web Icons collection on Wikimedia Commons. These icons are all available under a Creative Commons CC-BY 3.0 US license. &mdash; Augur &#x2710; 16:20, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Having recently implemented the  parameter in the draft template, I can see now that the Pocket Edition icon is going to be a problem. If I am using the MobileOnly.png file as the icon, it gets pixellated when used with the   parameter, which enlarges the icon significantly. I could use a different icon (such as the McPeLogo.png file) whenever   is invoked, or I could just use a different icon entirely. Any comments, suggestions, or ideas would be helpful. &mdash; Augur &#x2710; &#x2315;  19:40, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I have uploaded a new, generic touch phone vector image that is in the public domain. I've started using it with the new template. I think it looks okay now that I've rotated it 90&deg; clockwise. What do other people think of it? <font color="#703931">&mdash; <font color="#703931">Augur <font size="4" color="#723a32">&#x2710; <font size="4" color="#723a32">&#x2315; 05:44, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I have received a request to rotate the generic touch phone vector image by 180&deg; as, apparently, "people play with the home button on the right side, not the left." Any objections to this, anyone? If not I'll go ahead and make the change. <font color="#703931">&mdash; <font color="#703931">Augur <font size="4" color="#723a32">&#x2710; <font size="4" color="#723a32">&#x2315; 08:33, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

HESI Style Guide
It would be a good idea to develop a style guide for writing Edition-specific information. The Minecraft Wiki already has a Style Guide page which could benefit from the addition of a section about writing Edition-specific information. This would be similar to, or as an addendum to, the existing section about Keeping articles concise and up to date. Any suggestions for guidelines we should implement for writing Edition-specific information? <font color="#703931">&mdash; <font color="#703931">Augur <font size="4" color="#723a32">&#x2710; 15:50, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * - Without a set of guidelines, it makes it difficult to apprehend where to start and how conversion should be. -- <font face="Calibri" color="#3B9C9C">Extreme ( <font color="#52D017 ">T ) 00:53, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Edition-specific info in other language wikis
I thought it might be interesting to take a look at how the foreign-language versions of the Minecraft Wiki have been handling their Edition-specific information. As an example, I looked specifically at the difference in Redstone Ore. As we know, Redstone Ore currently doesn't drop Redstone when mined with any pickaxe in the Pocket Edition. This is presently mentioned in the Trivia section of the English Minecraft Wiki page for Redstone Ore. Below is a list of how the other language wiki's handle the Pocket Edition's difference for Redstone Ore.

This was an interesting exercise. There is no standard for dealing with Edition-specific information between the various language versions of the Minecraft Wiki. At least, not that I can see, anyway. Copying a standard from another language is therefore not really going to be possible. Personally, I would like to get Edition-specific information out of the Trivia section in the English version of the Minecraft Wiki. <font color="#703931">&mdash; <font color="#703931">Augur <font size="4" color="#723a32">&#x2710; 17:51, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Edition-specific info in other parts of the Wiki
Processing the pages for Blocks, Items, and Mobs under the HESI Project is going to be fairly straight-forward once we have clarified the task list. However, there are other pages and sections of the Minecraft Wiki that may not be quite that easy to sort out the Edition-specific information on. For instance, what should we do about the whole Tutorials section? Most of the existing tutorials seem to have been written for PC players. In fact, even the Beginner's guide itself is written specifically for PC players. Where is the key on my Xbox controller? There isn't even a link to an Xbox, Pocket, or Raspberry Pi beginner's guide. Another example is the Gameplay page that is linked off the Main page of the Wiki. It lists an Adventure mode that as far as I know isn't available with the Xbox 360 Edition, and probably isn't available on other Editions either, apart from the PC Edition. Also, linked from the Main page of the Wiki, the Trading page says nothing about its applicability to Editions other than the PC Edition. I'm sure there are plenty of other notable examples that can be pointed to. We need to consider how these "other" pages are going to be dealt with under the HESI Project. <font color="#703931">&mdash; <font color="#703931">Augur <font size="4" color="#723a32">&#x2710; 19:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Is this still ongoing?
Just wondering, is this project still ongoing? The last edit was on 31 July 2013, and 0 pages so far have been completed. The creator also hasn't been active for over a year. -Sonicwave (talk) 08:51, 12 November 2014 (UTC)