Minecraft Wiki talk:Projects/Chinese translation

Who approved for this to be made? I don't see any discussion, or want, for a Chinese translation on the projects page. – ultradude25 ( T at 07:42, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * While I don't think projects need special approval, we should probably throw in a "get # members within # weeks and your project will be continued" rule somewhere, so we won't have projects that end up abandoned.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  15:32, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I say let them be... if they go no where, there's no real harm, if they do succeed, all the better for the wiki in general. At least with the project organization, there is a central location for people to look for things to do, and they keep the files organized and easy to find. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  14:33, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I'm just going on what you were talking to me about a few days ago about asking if anyone actually needs/wants this, and if anyone wants to be involved or have any suggestions for it. I don't see the point in people just starting projects that no one is interested in and their work being for nothing as the project would just die. – ultradude25 ( T at 23:54, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Why I created this thread
There was a page on the forums about applying for wiki admin, so I wanted to be one.

Later on I found out there is no admin, so I just want to volunteer.

I got some friends and signed them up.

They said that they would translate a page every night.

I just want to know how to create a new page in this project
I wanted to translate some pages,but I could not create a page for this project.

System told me: You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: You do not have permission to create new pages.

PS: In fact,we have translated many pages: http://mc314upbbs.w263.mydnns.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=67&page=1


 * This question has been asked several time (that includes me), and has been answered here. Basicly, your e-mail address have to be firstly confirmed, then you wait for 3 days and have make 10 edits. Then you will have permission. After you gained permission you can follow the instruction in the here to create a new page. Zhongguo 19:14, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * While you are waiting, please feel free to contribute to pages that have been started. :D -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  09:42, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

一些翻译的讨论
我建议大家统一一下一些翻译的标准并且适当调整一些翻译的内容.
 * 我建议将Coal和Charcoal分别翻译成煤炭和木炭，而不是碳和煤炭或者是碳和木炭. 因为碳的概念包含了木炭，而游戏中这是两个平等的道具.
 * 我建议将Flint and Steel 就翻译成火石，而不是火石和钢铁. 因为在汉语中说火石和钢铁是很别扭的. 而火石就可以完全表达道具的本质.
 * 火石有可能直接与Flint混淆，有些特定环境下或许可以考虑使用火镰这个词. 或者直接使用火石(工具)和火石(材料)进行区分. --ReVanTis 07:06, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * 我们还需要在翻译过程中确认一些东西的翻译标准:
 * 比如Item是翻译成道具好还是物品好？物品
 * 比如resource item该如何翻译（如何突出它们可以直接在地面上可拾取的特性）
 * 以及如何合理的翻译Block等游戏术语
 * 这样同时使翻译的语言优雅同时又不会丢失原文的深刻含义和暗示.
 * 刚刚注意到minecraft的模板管理员ultradude25在某人的用户讨论中提到（这里），在整个项目完工前请不要对模板(templates)进行翻译. 这条注意事项应该被加入到项目主页面中以提醒新加入的成员. --ReVanTis 05:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * 有关smelt这个术语，我自己的翻译中一直使用"冶炼"，但显然在某些情况下是不妥的. 是否可以根据物品的分类进行一词多翻？--ReVanTis 05:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * 希望能够在这个维基页面外还能有一个即时统筹的信息板之类的地方,让我们这些翻译者能够容易地了解那些词条未被翻译并进行认领.因为事实上编辑WIKI页面是需要一定程度的相关知识的,那些代码对于不了解的人来说犹如天书,这事实上影响了翻译者的意向.
 * 有关认领待翻译的词条,因为新帐号无法创建页面,而要将该词条变成翻译中的蓝色状态实际上是需要一个已创建的词条的.所以希望选用别的颜色或者记号来表示认领状态.毕竟翻译者是很不愿意因为重复翻译而浪费劳力的.
 * 关于翻译中的词条,建议建立一个观察机制让别的译者接受长期未完成的翻译中词条.

Stuff
creeper＝绿怪 slime＝黏液怪(这里使用普遍为人所知的"史莱姆"是否更好？--ReVanTis 10:39, 3 May 2011 (UTC)(最好不要按照读音翻译. 这是官方的百科，要为人们设立好习惯. ))

TNT＝三硝基甲苯 Alpha＝阿尔法 Beta＝贝塔 Classic＝经典《我的世界》 Indev＝发展中的《我的世界》

（这些内容是不需要翻译的不是么？-ReVanTis 05:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)）

这个讨论点有点混乱
感觉这个讨论点有点混乱的说，所以建议移动到论坛或主页面进行讨论，注意使用小编辑按钮. 以后人多的话再移动到论坛讨论吧. 这里回答一下ReVanTis的一些问题. TNT Alpha Beta Classic Indev不需要翻译，我个人认为有以下几点：1、英文会更突显 2、中文翻译过长 3、没有一个确切的翻译可以表达英文含义，分歧会很大 4、原汉化以及一些老玩家已经习惯了使用这些单词，你可以去中文或3DM论坛，混一段时间就会发现，绝大部分人还是习惯用英文表述的 5、还有就是，翻译有点问题，具体请查阅百度百科，软件业界的一些专业术语和字面意思不同 --Fortomxq 16:23, 6 May 2011 (UTC) 其实我那句话是反问XD --ReVanTis 09:44, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Griefers
There are people who griefed this section. Be careful.

Note
我们是为了大众而翻译的，所以要征求他们的意见！ 一定要听我的：“为玩家服务！”


 * 因此或许可以设立投票贴来选出最多人希望翻译的词条?

Translating
Please stop just copying pages without translating them. Please finish translating the pages that are currently in Category:Chinese translation before creating more pages. Thanks! -- Wynthyst  talk  05:35, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Language code
Why are you using the "ch" tag for Chinese? There are better naming standards for multilingual translation projects, like ISO 639 (zh) or IETF language tag (zh-Hans, zh-CN, etc.). Xfs 14:27, 1 June 2011 (UTC) We already used ch, and there is nothing bad about it. --Edenapple 10:27,02 June 2011 (UTC)


 * "ch" is the code of Chamorro language as defined by ISO 639-1. This is indeed a bad thing because the language code of Chamorro language gets preempted in a non-standard way by the Chinese translation project, and it'd be irresponsible to ask the potential Chamorro translation project to adopt non-standard language code. Xfs 12:45, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * They can just do "cha". Edenapple 11:56, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The subpage designation is not the "Language code". The Language code for the subdomain will be zh. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  00:38, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Subdomain
While you have translated a large number of pages, the primary requirement for getting a Chinese language subdomain has not been completed as of yet. Please get the Main page Minecraft Wiki/ch translated, and also determine who is going to be your admin team. Edenapple will be the primary administrator of the Chinese language wiki, however I need at least 2 other users ready to fill the role as well. Thanks for all your hard work to date! -- Wynthyst  talk  05:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Could you guys do something for me?
On my userpage, I like to put in a line saying "I'm the Minecraftwiki head administrator!" and I was wondering if one of you could translate it to Mandarin for me. I already tried with Google Translate but I'm afraid it's not accurate. Thanks!--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  11:37, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

For some reason, I can't edit your talk page, so, just copy and paste it yourself. 出于某些原因，我没有权限编辑你的讨论页，所以你就自己复制黏贴一下吧. English→"I am the Minecraftwiki head administrator!"

Mandarin（中文）→”我是Minecraft维基百科的管理员！“

you're welcome. 不用谢

By the way,I still have some question for you and wynthyst (I don't know if you're with him). Anyway... Unfortunately, I can't login my Account in the Chinese subdomain, is that supposed to be like that? And, about the admin issue, It's a "little bit" hard to get in touch with Edenapple,he is the one who supposed to nominate candidates,yet he just don't show up recently, so what the heck :-(, we may never get an admin. And at last, thank you admins who let this request of creating a Chinese subdomain through,you guys are the best XD. --Craft Lawrence 14:32, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The Chinese wiki shares a different user database than the other wikis and vice-versa, so you'll have to register again.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  14:41, 20 August 2011 (UTC)