Talk:Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Turn into actual page
Might become an actual page???--Lol   -PJronq  18:08, 1 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I'd say so - Bulbapedia, for example, has a page on it despite it technically not being part of the Pokémon franchise either. - User-12316399 (talk) 18:15, 1 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I'd say no, we don't document references to/appearances of Minecraft in other games either, why should this be an exception?
 * FYI, Bulbapedia doing it is not a strong argument, we have different wiki rules, style guide, etc. Dhranios (talk) 18:40, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Because they're exactly that: references. SSB is a different case, since as far as I can see this is a completely official collaboration involving the Minecraft team to some extent, as opposed to a nod some unrelated game developer added since they were a fan. - User-12316399 (talk) 19:22, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * While it is different, it's also not at all Minecraft gameplay, or a product with Minecraft in the name. Your argument is basically also saying to document horses are they are in the Mo Creatures mod on this wiki, as the Mojang was involved in the process of horses, and they were basically copied from that mod. Same with pistons and anything else takes from a mod or other game. Dhranios (talk) 19:29, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , the thing is, there is such thing as a super smash bros wiki so why document here? this is Minecraft Wiki---HumiebeeDiscuss anything with me Look at my edits 19:25, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I feel like this is unlikely, but it's fine for everyone's opinions on this.---PJronq 19:55, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think we should definitely document the move sets etc of Steve etc in Smash, and that would probably best be placed on this page instead of e.g. Player.  Nixinova   T   C   20:33, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * with Nixinova TheGreatSpring (talk) 00:56, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , it's just steve, and minecraft-related moves and steve is just the default character, it's not like it should be talked about in this page imo.---HumiebeeDiscuss anything with me Look at my edits 01:16, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not just Steve, its Alex, zombie, enderman + Minecraft stages.  Nixinova   T   C   02:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


 * . The argument against it seems to be that this is the "Minecraft Wiki", but this is very heavily related to Minecraft and is official, so why not cover it? Given the scale of this announcement, I also suspect we'll have a lot of non-editors and such that are expecting us to cover it. Again, it is related to Minecraft, so why not? Other wikis don't tend to have an issue with covering their Smash representation either. I know that alone isn't an argument, but it both provides precedent that Smash is related to the game enough to be covered and creates an expectation among the average Smash player. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 22:49, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


 * for covering this, mainly per PancakeIdentity, but, whatever happens, remove all references to Smash stuff that are in pages like Player, as it would almost only make the pages more confusing. Sagessylu (discuss | edits) 12:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)


 * .Most wikis about 3rd party Universes with fighters such as Sonic News Network, The Castlevania Wiki, Final Fantasy Wiki, and even The Banjo-Kazooie Wiki and SNK Wiki (covering Fatal Fury and KOF info) have page For Super Smash Bros. Minecraft wiki currently is one of only 2 wikis not so(the another is Megami Tensei Wiki covering Persona5 stuff). so why not start one? 	--Clayblockunova (talk) 06:32, 16 October 2020 (UTC)


 * per PancakeIdentity and Nixinova. We obviously are not going to document everything about Smash, but in my opinion we should definitely document everything Minecraft related in any official game on this wiki. — Thomanski | t | c | 08:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)


 * documenting something about this, but only in one page, like a third-party program. There's a Super Smash Bros. Wiki on Fandom, IMO information about gameplay should only be there. --Dr03ramos (talk) 14:09, 16 October 2020 (UTC)


 * making this an actual page. A page called "Minecraft (Super Smash Bros Ultimate content)" which would work to contain player moveset, stages and music if gets approved. Supeika (talk) 14:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Adding Other Crossovers
I understand why some would not be added like just references (for example, when Minecraft is referenced in TV shows.) but it make sense to have it for when Steve or Minecraft level is in a game. I’d love to work on making them pages. We wouldn’t just official nodes but actual crossovers instead like Super Meat Boy. RobbyB3ll4s (talk) 17:47, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Bump RobbyB3ll4s (talk) 01:30, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Convert to soft redirect
I am proposing that this page become a soft redirect to this page because there is absolutely no need for a third-party game to have its own page when a wiki dedicated to said game has the same information on it as this one. I am aware of the above discussion regarding content proposal; however that was months ago and should not be considered in regards to opposition. BDJP (t 08:43, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * --Olivia Eliza (talk) 08:49, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * "however that was months ago and should not be considered in regards to opposition" This is very much not true... The majority of the people supported adding the content to this wiki, rather than keeping the page a redirect. If the discussion was years old, yes, months, no, it was less than half a year ago.
 * This request is literally going directly against prior consensus within the last year... That is already enough to say that the entire request is denied. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 09:32, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Doesn’t mean people can change their minds. BDJP (t 15:29, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with, there was a clear, solid consensus with like 6 people. Even I now support this page.Humiebeetalk contribs 20:17, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Crossovers page?
As per people like and 's desire to document this topic on the Wiki, and 's request to document other crossovers, I'm curious if a Crossovers page might be more like what would make sense for the Wiki. A single page with a section header for each game (the contents of this page minus the preamble would be under a ## Super Smash Brothers Ultimate heading), a history log for when Minecraft content was added to games something like, and external links to those game's Wikis. I think that would be much tighter, allow for more games to be referenced without the creation of a ton of pages (someone had mentioned there's a Minecraft reference in Super Meat Boy?), and be more consistent with what the users of the Wiki might expect, as well as on top of all of that be a fun read for people interested in other places Minecraft has shown up in gaming. DigiDuncan (talk) 01:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't call references crossovers. Smash is the only game so far to actually be a cross over, and seeing how much info is already on the page (could be more, like effects and stats of spitits, the spirit battles, the classic mode battles, etc.) a page whith all crossovers dumped together with this amount of info would just be messy. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 00:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)