Talk:Stone Bricks/Archive 1

Merging and cleanup
Ok, I have merged and redirected the pages from the cracked and mossy versions. The text needs to be reorganized. The History and Trivia sections needs to be copyedited and reorganized. Please help with the merge process. - Asterick6 05:48, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Merge with Cracked Stone Brick and Mossy Stone Brick

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed merging of the articles below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.  No further edits should be made to this section.

The result was   merge. - Asterick6 05:09, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Stone Brick
Discuss opinions about the merge here. Riking (talk) 20:00, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Cracked and Mossy stone brick are the SAME block as normal stone brick, with a different damage value, like wool or mushroom blocks. They should all be on a single page, not three different ones.  --Saphireking65 14:14, 1 November 2011 (UTC) (moved from old section)
 * They should be merged for wiki consistency. Riking (talk) 20:00, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * - All of the variations are stubs. Since they are pretty much the same block, merging them here would give a more detailed, comprehensive article with all the variations on the same page instead of on separate pages. - Asterick6 07:35, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * They are the same blocks, after all. Like a previous commenter said, it's much like how mushrooms and wool have the same pages, and the same should be done with these pages. The stone brick page already looks like it considers the four types to be one block, so it would only be natural for them to merge. - Pythasis 22:30, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Cracked Stone Brick
I think as this is a stub it should be merged with Stone Brick just like Charcoal and Coal. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.165.98.57 (Talk) 08:08, 20 September 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with
 * I second the motion. All in favor? --Neptune12100 23:57, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I added the merge tag long ago, and I would have done it myself except that, for some reason, when I added the blocks in they all appeared as normal Stone Brick blocks. Anyone have better luck?  Verhalthur (talk)(contribs) 18:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree. Also, can someone please clarify whether using Mossy or Cracked variants in a stair pattern produce regular Stone Brick Stairs and that there are no Mossy or Cracked Stair variants? It's ambiguous at present. Dsmith77 02:50, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


 * - This needs to be merged into the Stone Brick article. - Asterick6 07:52, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Yea, Circle Stone Brick is merged with the Stone Brick article, so why shouldn't this be? ISQ Talk 11:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Mossy Stone Brick
do not merge this with stone bricks unless you are gonna merge mossy cobblestone and cobblestone, all wool, and all food. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.205.138.133 (Talk) 18:45, 21 September 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * This isn't really a valid point for arguing against a merge. Please review the following: Wikipedia:All or Nothing --HexZyle 05:51, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


 * All the wools are already on one page. It should be merged as all 3 brick types have the same name and share the 98 dec value. Cobblestone and Moss Stone both have their own individual numbers. --DarkFlame588 00:22, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge them but let them have their own sections


 * I support merging these articles because other articles about different blocks with the same block id are all on one page (e.g. Stairs and Wool) Regdoug 20:30, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I also support merging. This block has the same ID. --Moxxy 15:49, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * - It's the same block but with different textures. - Asterick6
 * Yea, Circle Stone Brick is merged with the Stone Brick article, so why shouldn't this be? ISQ Talk 11:52, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * ''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. No further edits should be made to this section.

Adding Proper Templates
I tried to add a block, stub, and conjecture template to the page, however it would seem that I do not have editing privileges.

a) How may I earn this privilege? I'd like to help with general site maintenance such as this

b) In the meantime, could someone who has editing rights please add the aforementioned templates? Thanks!

-- ccfRobotics 2:14, 3 July, 2011

did you confirm your email? Discount Flunky 21:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

yes, it says it was authenticated. We should probably post any further conversation to do with this on my talk page. (The e-mail was what I checked first as well, my friends and I set up a MediaWiki platform (same as this) for a major college project last year)

--ccfRobotics 18:20, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

Confirmed?
It says that it is going to be a a block added in 1.8. The only thing we had was a picture. Should we change it to "might be implemented in 1.8"? SpaceX14 12:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I've changed it to reflect the possibility that it won't be included. I've used "may" instead of "might" though, as "may" indiciates something is more likely to happen than not. --Charlie St. Cloud 18:07, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Wrong first appearance
infdev 0.3? Toadbert

Non-Conjectural
Since there are Stone Brick Stairs[1]|undefined (at exactly 1:38, the name pops up for a split second) it would be a fairly accurate assumption that the full block that they are made from (or at least resemble greatly) would be called "Stone Brick" --HexZyle 08:06, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Blast resistance
It's blast resistance is the exact same as stone. It was proven by:

Making a 3x3 cube of stone and detonating the TNT from within. It didn't destroy the surrounding glass/saplings/Glass panes. ^control

I did the same with Stone Bricks, it had the same results.

Note: It was detonated with a lever from the outside triggering the TNT from within.

Obtaining mossy stone brick
I managed to obtain a mossy stone brick. It seems they randomly drop when you harvest a stone brick. Can someone confirm this? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 173.180.126.13 (Talk) 21:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * I discovered mossy stone brick can be obtained by placing stone brick stairs in different directions. Location does not matter (proximity to water).  Testing now.  PhothreeniX 20:21, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I have confirmed in a preliminary test that Stone Brick Stairs placed on dirt blocks facing the direction denoted as "f: 1" (north) via debug screen will consistently drop Mossy Stone Brick. Other drops were discovered but I will omit that information to maintain relevancy.  PhothreeniX 20:47, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You should add all of that info in the trivia section, as many of us would like to be able to use all the varients. 71.20.194.33 20:56, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * As of 1.9 pre-release, this method of getting mossy stone bricks no longer works. Can you confirm this, please? --Kcindric 14:44, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Stone Brick Edit.
I recently found out (through in-game testing) that, in the first update to the 1.8 pre-release, stone brick turns into cracked stone brick when broken. Like a good wiki user, I attempted to add this to the page. Apparently it's a troll in someone's eyes, as it was edited back to it's original state. I'm confused as I saw this happen myself when I broke some stone brick stairs (I assumed it applied to the regular block as well). Anyone willing to give me some support? It would be pretty easy to test, but I don't have a youtube account or anything to provide proof. :( Mybabypetghast 01:17, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Silverfish?
Would building my house out of stone bricks be like building it out of mob spawners? Or do silverfish only come out of natural blocks? I don't want to start a silverfish farm... --MSbab7 17:33, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

They only spawn if you break the block Ferrariic 23:22, 16 September 2011 (UTC)Ferrariic

Okay, I built my house and had leftover blocks, so I went to the desert to try and purposely spawn them for the heck of it, and they wouldn't spawn. I don't think they come out of the player placed blocks. Maybe some one else should test this? --MSbab7 17:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Can we confirm this?
Can we confirm this quote? "Stone brick the player crafts appears to take damage every time it's picked back up after being placed, stacking into it's own pile separate from the "undamaged" bricks, eventually turning into Cracked Stone Brick." Cleverlynamed1 16:53, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Stone Bricks
The in game name for this is "Stone Bricks". Plural. Plugins that use item names use this name as well. Perhaps the name of this page should be changed to reflect that? Moleculor 18:12, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Test
I have confirmed in a preliminary test that Stone Brick Stairs placed on dirt blocks facing the direction denoted as "f: 0" (West) via debug screen will consistently drop Cracked Stone Brick. Other drops were discovered but I will omit that information to maintain relevancy. PhothreeniX 20:57, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I can't reproduce this whatsoever. I've tried placing the stairs on both dirt and grass. This should be removed from the wiki page until it can be confirmed! –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.26.151.146 (Talk) 18:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * It works in 1.8.1, but got fixed in 1.9 pre-release. --Kcindric 19:17, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Flammable
Not sure if it's intentional, but the stone bricks seem to be flammable, I placed a ring of stone bricks with lava in the middle and they started burning, which then spread to my stone brick walkway Nevermind, discovered what was wrong, it wasn't the bricks that were flammable. 12:44, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Cracked brick = Porous?
At least as of 1.9pre3, lava and water will drip from the undersides of cracked stone bricks when the respective fluid is on the top. Unless I have extra flame resistant wool and wood, the lava drips don't seem to cause any fires. Yet. ModernDragoness

I think its like that for everything.--BTH 20:48, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Lava and water particles have been appearing from the undersides of blocks supporting either liquid since 1.9 pre-release 1. They are merely particle effects and do not affect the game in any way apart from appearance --HexZyle 06:13, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Stone brick and smooth stone
Although they have the same blast resistance and the crafting proportion is 1:1, stone bricks take significantly longer to mine. Is it a bug, intended or unintended and needs to be fixed? If it is a (weird) feature, should there be some note in the trivia?
 * I don't think the blast resistance is confirmed --HexZyle 04:56, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Seed Ring?
We need citation on this/what is this. I mean, we need an explanation on what this is.

Stone brick stacking bug.
Well,i have a set of 6 stone bricks.But the problem is,that there are 4 stone bricks by one side,and 2 by the other side. they could not stack,so i was confused.i tried placing them to see if they are cracked,or mossy,but they were the same. still not stackable.Thay are the same,but they dont stack (details) the map is a 1.7 map,in 1.7 there were no stongholds so i dont think that it was a silverfish block. enyone help?

Then how did you get the stone bricks? --Captain_Clam 01:35, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

i crafted it. i smelted 4 stone, and made it, but now i know it was the bug when minning a stair block, it would give you different types of stone.

Seems like you got yourself some semi-legit chissled stone brick ;) . These looked the same as stone brick until 1.2 I think - Eneroth3 2012-09-08

New Stone Brick
The new 1.2 preview has a new Stone Brick in it. I don't know what the actual name is though, since it doesn't say in creative mode. I'm sure one of you well-informed people will find out.

Here is a photo of it:



-- Muskar 16:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


 * But how do you craft it?--82.215.56.151 18:11, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You can't.--99.25.90.235 16:58, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

CircleStone isn't entirely impossible to obtain legitimately. There was an exploit/bug in the early post-Adventure updates through which stonebrick stairs could be destroyed, and depending on the facing, you would get either stonebrick, mossy stonebrick, cracked stonebrick, or a different stonebrick that didn't stack with the first. Apparently the damage value for that last one was used for circle stone.

Circle Stone Brick
With the new block, should I mention in the trivia that the blocks are a reference to Zol Stones in the Golden Sun series? If you ask me, they do resemble them.

Here's the reference: http://goldensunwiki.net/Zol

--Pantherlily 04:36, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Creative Only (Circle Stone Brick)
On the image of the circle stone brick in the directory at the bottom, the image is the texture for lit redstone lamps. 98.24.0.236 14:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Chisel?
Is there going to be a chisel since there is chiselled stone bricks and chiselled sandstone?

--KBGUY 15:41, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Stair bug
As of the beta 1.8 update you could make stone brick stairs, and get the fancy (mossy and cracked) stone bricks by placing the stairs on grass block (for mossy bricks) and stone blocks (for cracked bricks) and breaking the stairs. There are a lot of lost blocks, and therefore lost efficiency, but as far as I know this is the only way this could be done. Note: I believe it is only a chance (a large chance, but still not garunteed to be different) to drop the fancy bricks. Example: sometimes a stair palces on grass will drop cracked or normal bricks, but for the most part will drop mossy. (vice versa for stone and cracked respectively)

Trivia Discrepancy?
 Trivia  '' ...Monster eggs always take a shorter time to break with a pickaxe than with regular Stone Bricks, they can also be mined without a pickaxe. '' Should this be the other way around? Per Monster Egg page: When breaking it with a pickaxe it takes noticeably longer to mine than regular stone, cobblestone, or stone brick...

Crafting Stone Bricks change
Should I (Guest987user) change the upcoming bit of the mossy stone bricks to upcoming in official release, in snapshot 14w02a/b (not sure about snapshot no., to confirm) Yes it's a bit lengthly. Should I? Or someone else? --Guest987user (talk) 08:45, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Crafting
The article clearly states that chiseled stone bricks can be crafted using two slabs. However, this would not seem to be the case as of 1.7.4. I can find no similar recipe anywhere on the Internet for chiseled stone bricks, so it would appear that the author has simply assumed that crafting with stone bricks is similar to that of quarts and sandstone. --77.68.158.228 08:28, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * It's an upcoming recipe. It should've been separated. –Matt ᐸ Talk Contribs ⎜ 08:46, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Looks like Module:Crafting doesn't yet support the  parameter, only  . -- Orthotopetalk 08:51, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Having (upcoming) in the ingredients section seems confusing to me. I think it should be separate anyway. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Majr (talk • contribs)&#32;09:04, 22 January 2014&#32;(UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * That works here, but could be a problem with the crafting DPL, which wouldn't maintain that separation. --

Advantages of Stone Bricks vs. Cobblestone
Just thought I would mention, this article states that there are no advantages over Cobblestone beyond decoration. This really isn't true. Functionally, yes they have the same blast resistance which is probably the most important single metric, but Cobblestone does take 33% longer to mine. In fact, articles and FAQs referring to Cobblestone generators vs. Smooth Stone generators usually cite this difference. It may not seem like a huge difference when you aren't talking about optimized farming, and in many situations it doesn't make any difference at all, but I find that in cases where you need to do quick adjustments or tear down structures and re-use your resources, like in the Nether, this can be a definite strategic advantage.

The disadvantage of course is that you have to smelt Cobblestone and then craft it to get any of the Stone Brick variations. Given that fuel is easy to come by though, once you have a large mining and smelting operation going on with multiple furnaces and hoppers it's really only a minor inconvenience. But there are certainly advantages and disadvantages of either beyond just looks. I find it best to keep a reasonable amount of both on hand.

–Preceding unsigned comment was added by 50.81.209.95 (talk) at 01:41, 8 September 2014 (UTC). Please sign your posts with