Talk:Ender Pearl/Archive 2

Ender Pearls do not stop you staring at endermen, I have just tried it now (remember looking at endermen heads do not work anyway)
 * Same goes for me, I tried having it in inventory and also holding it but they still chase me Yandols 16:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Ender pearl's use?
Im sorta confused...on the page it says they have no use, yet theres this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNwEXSIUBD0

As you can see they do have a use. So is video fake or something? Or did I miss something really obvious? Jtlcr777 00:35, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Noone answered me, so I just went ahead and added it. Jtlcr777 20:50, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * That video doesn't really show the use very well. He kinda just runs around while claiming the ender pearl causes them to teleport. He even says something along the lines of, "It worked, but I didn't use the pearl." That is because Endermen teleport, that's their behavior. If one happens to teleport when you right click it, it's a coincidence, because, more often than not, right clicking with an ender pearl won't do anything. CaMoreno3 23:44, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Huh, alright then. Thanks for telling me, I was really wonderng why noone considered that video as evidence of a use. Jtlcr777 23:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Pearl Effects Clarification?
Could the paragraph related to the way the pearls affect Enderman behavior be clarified a bit? I have trouble understanding exactly what happens when the pearl is in your inventory. XxNewbVandalxX 03:16, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * There is an edit war in progress over that. It's hard to clarify anything while an edit war is going on. 04:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I've not had this issue. As long as the pearl is in my bag, they won't attack me when I look at them.

Lava "bug" not working
the article says that if you throw an Ender Pearl into lava, a dead Enderman appears. I've thrown in two and nothing happens.

also, who says that this is an Easter Egg? seems rather pointless. Zoythrus 15:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think whoever put that up was trolling. Im still investigating it though. BsiGio 18:15, 11 September 2011 (UTC) 02:12, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Unknown use solved?
Every time I watch a video in which someone is holding an Ender Pearl, I never see an Enderman teleport. Is that the pearls power? Endermen don't teleport when you're holding it?

Well, I have proven that if you right click an Enderman within arm's reach with an Ender Pearl, it forces him to teleport. Although, this isn't very useful, all it does is give you a few more seconds to flee. Zoythrus 15:51, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

I've actually just discovered the real use. It can hurt Endermen from a distance, but doesn't hurt other mobs.

^"Pics or it didnt happen."^ Zoythrus 15:09, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Please add a reference.
If you decide to make some sort of claim to what the Ender Pearl does, please add a reference to provide some sort of proof. Until Notch or Jeb come out and say what the Ender Pearl actually does, there will be a war. If an edit is added without some sort of proof, I will revert it back.CaMoreno3 20:38, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

AND I WILL TOO ! ! !

I discovered the uses of the ender pearl.
There are a few uses to the ender pearl, although i don't have any program to make a video or anything, so i can't really prove it.

1) It will make endermen teleport away if you right-click.

2) If you wear a pearl, it will halve the distance at which endermen become agressive when you look at them.

3) Lets you attack endermen from a greater distance (unknown how much of a distance increase and you must be holding the pearl.)

4) Your hunger meter won't drop when it's in your inventory.

You can test these out if you want to, and if nobody replies i will add the information.

--JoeTheGreat123 21:49, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll go test these right now. But seeing as there is an edit war on the Ender Pearl page right now, please don't add anything without a reference. A video, or a tweet from Notch/Jeb would work. CaMoreno3 22:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I tested all these claims in survival mode on normal difficulty by creating a flat world with only grass and importing an Enderman Spawner using MCedit.


 * 1) Enderman DO NOT teleport away when you right click with the pearl. If they teleport while being right clicked, it is merely a coincidence, because more often than not, it doesn't work.


 * 2) The pearl DOES NOT cut Endermen's aggro distance in half as far as I can tell. Endermen spotted me watching them from very far distances regardless of whether or not I was holding a pearl.


 * 3) IN SURVIVAL MODE the pearl DOES NOT increase the your attack distance. When trying to attack any mob from a long distance, the pearl did nothing with both right and left clicking. However IN CREATIVE MODE any item can attack any mob from long distances, not just the Ender Pearl. So the Ender Pearl is nothing special.


 * Through the testing I've done it is my opinion that as of now, the Ender Pearl does nothing. I do not have the means to make a video to prove any of these claims. If anybody can make a video, please do so. CaMoreno3 23:40, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The ender pearl might be a form of curreny, notch always said he wanted to add that. I mean it IS a pearl, and pearls are valuable in real life. You could use the pearl to buy blocks.


 * Every time I have right-clicked an Enderman with the Ender Pearl, they teleported. I can't remember how many times I did it, but every time it happened. Coincidence? I think not. --SN777 Divinus, King of Blargs 04:43, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Then make a video and prove it. It never works with me or others. CaMoreno3 06:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I tested it by forcing them to teleport a few times (by using the Ender Pearl, of course), but then I let one just run into me, and it did. It wouldn't teleport unless I "told" it to (whether via pearl or hitting it). Zoythrus 21:02, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I too have confirmed that this is not true. Either there are other circumstances at play, or you, sir, are trolling. Either way, we need more than your word. Cleverlynamed1 21:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * There may have been other things in play at the time, because I tried it once again and nothing happened. It may have been some pre-release bug or something, but I do know that I somehow was able to force them to teleport (on multiple occasions). Well, whatever it was is gone now, so this myth is busted. Zoythrus 21:51, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Endermen teleport without right clicking the pearl...
It's their attack strategy, you look at them as they run at you, then they teleport behind you and attack. By the way, did you know you can attack mobs from a lot further away in creative mode? That explains the other "power" of the pearl ;) I for one, am betting it will do nothing to Endermen, and will rather let you teleport. Skeletons and creepers drop things that help you use the power of that mob, (arrows and gunpowder). Besides, Endermen aren't so difficult that you need a special item just to weaken them. Just my two cents.

A later effect on blocks?
I was trying to figure out what the use of Ender Pearls is, and i noticed while right-clicking a block with the ender pearl in my hand, it shook. I'm wondering if ender pearls could do something to blocks. Maybe it will be added in 1.9, like actual npcs and having XP do something. [EDIT] maybe it has something to do with the enderman's ability to pick up and move blocks?


 * It could be that they're used for crafting. Maybe a teleporter block?


 * Has anyone dis proven that it helps mine blocks faster yet? I had 4 ender pearls today when mining some dirt and I swear it felt a smidgen faster than normal. If there is any increase it cannot be much at all. --Maduo 17:44, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Banhammer please!
Too many edit wars. People keep posting speculation on the page itself. Please place a restriction on this page. Cleverlynamed1 20:46, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ban isn't necessary. At least place an edit lock of some kind. People are drawing conclusions and just adding in things based on coincidence or inaccuracy. --Flyingbox 20:52, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I suppose I should have said "Banhammer-er" An edit lock is what I meant. :-/

realistic use's
I am not going to post a lot of crap like they allow you to attack from far away or anything I'm going to say realistic use's

1.They could be used in villiges as payment ie 3 for a diamond pick

2.As Notch/jeb has stated that they like the idea of summoning boss mobs like minecraft they could be used in a way like 2 pearls-Giant

3.They could be used to level up attack strength or health aalthough experince orbs seems a more likely cand. for this

4.They may be able to teleport you to your bed or spawn once each pearl

5.The only other realistic use I can think of is using them in lanterns as the lights Desacobose 02:38, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * From those options, I think 4 is the best. Some way to recall yourself to your spawn point would be extremely useful! Zoythrus 03:38, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * How is posting speculation supposed help improve the page? -.- Shockman25 03:55, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

This was an attempt to make the most likely uses for them known and stop all the annoying "they make endermen teleport nonsense"PS:why did you come to me the most realistic post instead of the ones that tell behaviors of endermen?Desacobose 06:18, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Lovely, someone's added that section back. If the wiki does not contain information stating what something doesn't do, I would assume that it doesn't do those things anyway.  Therefore, that section is pointless.  --— smoni  14:55, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Firstly, you base your thought on the premise that the wiki is complete, and contains all information possible regarding the game. This is not true. Furthermore, and based on this, the assumption that, "If the wiki does not contain information stating what something doesn't do, I would assume that it doesn't do those things anyway." is flawed. Since you have both a flawed implied premise and a flawed declared premise, your argument is proven unsound - twice. Furthermore, the purpose of this wiki is to provide as much information as possible regarding the game, including dispelling common misconceptions. I.E. the Herobrine page clearly stating that he is indeed a myth. Thus, the section has purpose. Cleverlynamed1 15:23, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright. To be fair though, Notch himself has joked about Herobrine's existence, (and removed 'him' from the game in a few updates), which may lead some people to think he actually existed.  --— smoni  15:41, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It seems that your implied premise states that there should not be information regarding something NOT existing, unless there is sufficient reason, through cause, for people to believe the opposite. I agree with this, but I do not agree with the necessary syllogism for your (again implied) conclusion that there is not sufficient reason, through cause, for what we have placed in the article. As you can see in the discussions above, all of what we confirmed to not exist in the article are pervasive misconceptions. Thus, due to the theory of cause, (nothing comes to exist without something causing it), we can see that there is cause for these misconceptions - and thus - reason, through cause. Cleverlynamed1 15:56, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Fair enough if these misconceptions are wide spread enough to warrant clarification. — smoni  16:15, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And that's the question. I can't prove that it is, although I have looked throughout several Minecraft related sites and seen these ideas repeated in several places. I believe the benefit incurred by clarification is much greater than whatever negatives you may see. Cleverlynamed1
 * it may help to point out in the code, the enderpearl is just a plain item, no special class, ie it will have NO on click attributes. --nekosune

Ender Pearl's main section misleading
I know it's all locked up, but saying the ender pearl is "purely decorative" doesn't make any sense. Just say it currently has no use. Decorative implies that it can be used for decorating. There's enough speculation going on that word choice should be considered when talking about the subject.


 * I couldn't agree more. *Edit* Oh, this has already been changed. Thanks for the edit block Admins!Cleverlynamed1 22:12, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Tools
I wish Notch would make Ender Pearl tools. Probobly as strong as Stone/iron tools. I think it's a good idea. Tropius 00:28, 16 September 2011 (UTC)Tropius