Talk:Minecraft Wiki

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Getting Started link
Suggest link near top of main page to Getting Started page.
 * (Someone might want to pretty-up getting-started, too; but it's "close enough" for now -- better than nothing!) Chum 18:53, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll see how things look when adding some crafting guide images to the Tutorial. Pmw57 04:17, 20 October 2010 (CDT)
 * On second thought, that may be too much duplication between the Tutorial page and the Crafting page. Pmw57 04:23, 20 October 2010 (CDT)
 * I agree. Maybe right above "Page Index" on the front page. Noting includes a couple other tutorials about getting started in Alpha, but new users could benefit from one clear direction. --JellyfishGreen 18:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Possible new headline section
I mainly use the wiki to get detailed new information on recent updates, particularly the seeeecret friday kind.

It would be great if there was a condensed devlog section of the wiki on the front page, with links to detailed pages relevant to each update.

For instance, today's could be something like:

7/16/10 Seeecret Friday Update: (BLOG POST LINK)

- BUG: Death causes world corruption

- FIX: ??? (He mentioned something)

- Cactii

- Trees improved

- Leaves no longer vanish

- Crafting additions:

-- Boats

...

This could be spoilery, so possibly just the name and date of the update and the blog post could be immediately visible, leaving the details accessible on the patch page.

Separating some articles
Some articles like Apples, Mushrooms, and Mobs ought to be separated. They are all separate things. Apples and Mushrooms, i could understand if they dont get separated, but Mobs? Theyre all their own different thing, and it just makes sense (to me anyway) for them to all be their own article.Toadbert

new monster
i when playing the game i found even on peacefull a monster. i gues its the new monster the said there is gonna be. its a blob like thing .if you kill a big one it seperates into smaller easier to kill ones.very annoying!!!
 * That would be a Slime. Notch accidentally made them spawn on peaceful.  That will later be corrected :D -Phoenyx 22:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

"subject to change" template?
should this be made? case and point, bookshelves may have writeable books in future. boats may be towed together. apples may be cooked in future etc. etc. thoughts? --Kizzycocoa 22:32, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the problem is that there's too much that's "subject to change", since the game is still in alpha. Even torches (if you ask me, the most essential item in the game) are likely to change in the future, so we'd be slapping this tag on every other article. I vote we don't introduce such a template. Noroom 12:52, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Category
Add Category:Minepedia -- 22:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Alot of recent additions gone missing?
I noticed alot of discussions and such have gone missing, and alot of things, such as the big giant page this Wiki had detailing every block has been split up into individual pages for each block. A good example is when you Google "minecraft wiki Talk:TNT". Here's the first result:


 * Talk:TNT - Minepedia - The Minecraft Wiki!
 * 12 Aug 2010 ... I just noticed the part of this page where it claims that the blast radius of TNT is 5x5x5 when put at the center. ...
 * www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Talk:TNT -

[http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:g1jtqTfBvd4J:www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Talk:TNT+minecraft+wiki+Talk:TNT&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca Here's the cached version of the page. Note the IP address. When you check it's contribs...]

Nothing at all....

Did I miss something? 24.226.58.7 17:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * A lot of spamming and trolling happened on the wiki recently, and SOMETHING happened that reverted a good chunk of the wiki back to what it was on July 30/August 1. Most of the changes that have happened to pages since then are gone, although some things have been fixed. --Coolpilot 17:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Is there any chance that admins will be able to get these changes and additions back? I'd like to point out the Redstone circuits page, where a lot of work has been lost. --Toi333 18:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Just Google search the page, look at the cached version, copy and paste, done. Here's the cached version. Alot more stuff seems to be on the cached version from Google, than on the current page. It'd take alot of copy/paste work to fix the current page and make it look like that cached version. 24.226.58.7 18:26, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * It's not as simple as that. There were lots of diagrams for the designs of every gate. The cached page doesn't contain these diagrams, and they are the things that matter the most. --Toi333 20:32, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Notch Time
someone NEEDS to make this page. is it ok to do so?--Kizzycocoa 03:33, 20 August 2010 (PDT)


 * What is notch time? Toadbert


 * http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
 * but, for notch.
 * for example, SMP was promised to have been released months ago. there are some more, but idk most of them.
 * it would mainly be a joke, pointing out errors in his releases as with VALVe, while being informative. if you get what I mean.--Kizzycocoa 05:34, 26 August 2010 (PDT)


 * I say go for it, itd worth some lols. Toadbert
 * If its mainly going to be a joke, then I don't see a reason to make a page like it. It wouldn't be related enough. However, I think you could add it to the Notch article just fine in a new paragraph.--Quatroking - Garble Garble! 16:13, 26 August 2010 (PDT)
 * well, that page is a joke there. and it's in a "SERIOUS BUISINESS" forum. trust me, some of those guys are pure nazi's of the internet. not all, but some of the "professionals" who have done maps for source since they were 2.
 * still, another paragraph is fine I guess. :) --Kizzycocoa 16:28, 26 August 2010 (PDT)

Main Page links
"Got a Suggestion?" and "Skins" dont go anywhere anymore. Toadbert
 * removed for now. the other admins will know what to do with it next, if anything.--Kizzycocoa 11:33, 25 August 2010 (PDT)
 * I think putting a link to the Tutorials page on the main would be helpful. MrMatthew 16:29, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Game Mode Work
Im going to move the current "Survival" article to "Survival Mode Test" and leave Survival as an article referring to Alpha for the time being and talking about Indev, Infdev and SMT. Anyone have suggestions/complaints? Toadbert
 * 2 words.
 * "Disambiguation page" :3--Kizzycocoa 13:54, 26 August 2010 (PDT)


 * Wouldnt it be easier to just separate SMT and use the title notch gave it in old version updates though? Toadbert
 * yes, but, would it be the right thing to do?--Kizzycocoa 16:26, 26 August 2010 (PDT)
 * Why not? Toadbert
 * because survival is the name for the old one. SMP is a misnomer, as Survival Test was meant to have multiplayer, but it's been delayed all the way until infdev, so both have HUGE differences. I personally think it couldn't hurt to add a disambiguation page.--Kizzycocoa 16:32, 26 August 2010 (PDT)
 * Where was survival made the name for the old one?Toadbert
 * when notch decided to call SP bets of survival "survival mode test", and made it free.--Kizzycocoa 16:36, 26 August 2010 (PDT)
 * Ok Toadbert
 * Woah, what happened there?
 * I mean, "when he decided to call the first SP survival mode (with mobs in)".--Kizzycocoa 16:55, 26 August 2010 (PDT)


 * Just checked Minecraft.net's stats page. "Survival mode test" is one of the sections.Toadbert

ALL THE IMAGES ARE BROKEN
They show thumbnails, but you can't view the original image which is a HUGE ASS PROBLEM considering this website contains many guides in the form of images ( for any reason at all??? this is a frickin wiki after all, why would you need to put your text in an image? :/ ) and the text is unreadable in pretty much all of these cases.

Might want to fix the huge gaping hole in your website...


 * Whats been going on with these problems on the wiki letely? Toadbert
 * We had a few server transfers (yes, we're that good) and it looks like some files didn't make it. I've been yelling at our sysadmins for a day now, lets hope they respond real soon.--Quatroking - Garble Garble! 02:30, 6 September 2010 (CDT)

Redesign Main Page for the coming year (2011)
Since the site is getting heavily populated just for crafting recipes, I think we need to make the main page more vivid and organized. Like, we need to make the Categories below into one row not into two and try to fit the description under it. Also, I was thinking of starting to organize each page in the Wiki into a category, but that's just me thinking... --Psych 08:10, 6 September 2010 (CDT)
 * this is already in the works.--Kizzycocoa 08:17, 6 September 2010 (CDT)

Programs and Editors
The Map Editing link on the main page seems to overlap content with the Development Resources section on map formats. I've merged all of the useful information from Map Editing into Development Resources. I'd like to see the main page link Map Editing changed and renamed to Programs and Editors. I'd suggest doing it after I've fleshed the page out and added pictures, but the change would be an improvement already. Codewarrior 22:28, 8 September 2010 (CDT)
 * Bump. Started adding pictures. Redirected the main page link.

Removing the square bg on item pictures
I just did it to the bread picture without realizing pretty much all item pictures had this. Is there any reason to keep them or should i go ahead and remove the backgrounds? (imo the bg makes the pictures look odd) Toadbert
 * we cannot. the animated ones mean they have to be one image, or else the crafting grid/output gets out of sync. so, might at well make them all the same for consistency.--Kizzycocoa 03:14, 11 September 2010 (CDT)


 * So I should remove it then?Toadbert
 * uh, no, as the animations will get out of sync if they're split up :S --Kizzycocoa 15:56, 11 September 2010 (CDT)


 * But all the animations are now in one image with the crafting recipe and output. As far as i can tell, none of these pictures with the backgrounds are on any pages with animations.
 * check crafting. more specifically, the door recipe. there are animated images.--Kizzycocoa 16:04, 11 September 2010 (CDT)


 * I know, but none of those use the "separate image for input and output" anymore. None of these single items are needed for any animations anymore or even are animated. Toadbert
 * link?--Kizzycocoa 16:17, 11 September 2010 (CDT)


 * is the only other place the food pictures are used, no animations needed there. There arent any pictures for tool items that i know of, except for flint and steel which is needed for no animations. Theres no animations for weapons. And on and on. I dont see what i should be linking to as these animations arent anywhere i can find.Toadbert
 * wait, what are we even talking about anymore? we've moved from a border removal to apple icons. what's the exact image and problem? x.x--Kizzycocoa 16:40, 11 September 2010 (CDT)
 * actually, I think those are good. like inventory boxes. try to ask quatro or someone to confirm, but I think they're styled that way.....--Kizzycocoa 16:41, 11 September 2010 (CDT)


 * lol ok Toadbert

Items
To further continue my rants on this talk page, we need to get some kind of consistency for the articles pertaining to items. I see that Shovels, axes etc redirected to another page (one with hardly any info on them too). Now, since tools have their own page and each tool redirects to the respective section under it, why does each food item have its own page? Why are bow and arrow condensed to one page while Sword apparantly has no mention anywhere? What im getting at is, we just need to determine whether to have each item as its own article, or condense each to a broad category article and have each item redirect to the category article.Toadbert
 * personally, we just flow with it. if someone has enough trivia or information about something, we allow the article to be created. it's simply the way that's worked best, a community-driven wikia.--Kizzycocoa 03:20, 11 September 2010 (CDT)

Classic/Creative and Full/Alpha?
The Minecraft info on this page only explains Classic - it needs to explain Alpha and also tell readers that they are essentially different games. ConMan8 19:03, 15 September 2010 (CDT)


 * How many articles have you looked at? Ive edited lots of articles to include Alpha info.Toadbert

Thumbnails Missing!
Most of the image thumbnails are missing, making it impossible to read some articles. Any idea why? And when will this be fixed? --Techjar 15:04, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


 * its probably some server issues again considering the wiki was down for a while about 2 days ago Toadbert

Should block names be capitalized?
Do we craft with Stone, or with stone? I guess the best solution is to capitalize links and leave everything else lowercase, but I wanted to at  least have a guideline about this... Right now it seems to be split  50/50 and it looks kind of bad in some places. Magnanimous 07:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I think we should capitalize everything. I know im guilty for that 50/50 stuff, I dont really notice my inconsistencies when Im writing that stuff.Toadbert


 * My personal opinion is that block names should be capitalized when talking about the actual block, whereas not capitalized when talking about a generic sort of object. For an example: "Many players build stairs using combinations of Stairs and other blocks." As an addendum to this, water and lava should only be capitalized when talking about the actual cube of water or lava in question (or when talking about Water Source/Spring blocks). So, "You can use a Boat to travel quickly on water rather than swimming." JC 06:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * That makes sense, since blocks would be proper nouns and the generic objects are common nouns. Deal. Magnanimous 06:42, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Main Page Logo size
It either needs to be re-sized with wiki code, or replaced with a version that is about 600 pixels wide. The current one breaks the width of the page and doesn't fit well with the text box below it. :)

Here is the re-sized version I was going to upload:

http://www.thedalokohscreators.com/Logo.png

- Benjamuffin 11:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Just wanted to add, that I am aware of it working when the browser window is stretched out, but this width is not a typical site width for content, so for a majority of users this is not going to work as is, and those users will be presented with a messy site at first. - Benjamuffin 11:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Agreed, at XGA (1024x768) the logo is simply too big. I don't normally use that resolution (I resized my browser to go to it), but it's a common-enough resolution that I recommend the wiki adopt it as kind of a 'minimum practical resolution,' something I've found useful at other wikis in terms of layouts. Basically that means that any page should be readable & unbroken at that resolution. SVGA is long gone, but XGA still has a sizable population in general (10-15% at the last numbers I've seen quoted). --Lordebon 12:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Rules link
Just a head's up to the admins, the link to the rules on the main page is going to a deleted page, rather than Wiki Rules. The Navbar link is good though. --Lordebon 18:46, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Patch History
I think the Patch History page should be linked to the main page, it's usually very useful to most people to see how the game has progressed and if there has been an update as of late. --KaiserTom 21:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree. I'm tired of having to type "Patch history" into the search bar every time I want to check it.  Linking it would make my life, and probably a lot of other people's lives, much easier.  --XANA520 20:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Halloween themed picture?
Created by me in a couple minutes, Demonicpenguin.
 * I'd like to see more than just this. a full blown stylesheet with a bloodied logo. I could potentially create the stylesheet. I actually have yet to receive a master stylesheet yet.--Kizzycocoa 14:39, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Well this is just a creative idea maybe to spark other ideas. I don't plan on working on it more, feel free to though. Demonicpenguin Maybe a GIF that flashes a scary picture then goes back to the current picture? :D PurpleKiwi 17:53, 17 October 2010 (CDT)

Translation
Since the community is wide and the game is getting famous i'd like to include, in this wiki, the translation plugin in order to localize the wiki for new users. I can make Italian translation.

American or European?
This is an issue I've come across several times. When it comes to words like colour armour ambience ect... I do not know whether or not to do the American or European spelling. I know the American spelling is only used in one country but if most of this site's traffic comes from there then it makes sense to use the Americanized spelling. When this is done could an Admin make a note somewhere so it is clear what spelling the site will use so there are no arguments in the future? --Moxxy 01:26, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * UPDATE:After doing some research I have found that the United States makes up 46.5% of this sites traffic. United Kingdom comes in second with 8.7% It's looking like the Americanized spelling might be the one to go with looking at the massive gap. --Moxxy 01:40, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you forgetting about all the other countries that use UK spelling? ConMan8 01:41, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The total amount of the next top 10 is less than 40%. The rest of the % accounts for negligible info and errors. I'm not trying to be biased either way. Just trying to sort this out. --Moxxy 20:46, 17 October 2010 (CDT)


 * If its american or not, I dont care really. I say we just pick whatever has more country traffic from. If we cant just use Sweden's or something idk Toadbert


 * I think that European spelling looks a lot better - most words have more letters in them..


 * Wikipedia doesn't care as long as the entire page is either American or European. PurpleKiwi 17:39, 18 October 2010 (CDT)

I vote for english.

And if not that, then I vote for lolspeak. with AT LEAST one cat per-page--Kizzycocoa 12:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Link to Patch History

 * It seems like there really ought to be a link to Patch history on the Main Page. There's plenty of space for more links in the blue box at the bottom, and it would make it much easier to find. I didn't know, so I spent several minutes searching variations of 'game updates' and 'change log' until it finally came up. For a game that previously received weekly updates, this seems like an important enough page to receive a link on the Main Page.