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To everyone wishing to be an admin on the wikis ~ Please Read We are currently looking for active administrators for the Dutch Wiki ONLY. This doesn't mean you can't help any of the other language wikis. Please register an account on the appropriate wiki, and contribute. Get familiar with the Wiki rules and take a look at The Administrator's Guide. If you are fluent in Dutch, and wish to be considered for promotion, please leave me a note here. Do NOT post your email addresses, as all communication will be done on the wiki. Any registered user can help with the translations! Thanks! ~Wyn

Image resizing?
Methinks you grok the .png habit better than I, so might you take a look at:

Tutorials/Quarry

The new pic is rather nice, and has a good relative field of view, but I think its size is a little screen-busting. Is it worth asking the OP to resize it, or is this something you would normally just do yourself and repost the pic? -Wulfenbach (not on fire for once) 03:57, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Uh.. just change it to a more normal size? – ultradude25 ( T at 04:13, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, resizing is something anyone can do. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  05:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Minepedia Copyrights
Is there a page for what the copyrights either Curse.com or Minepedia claim over the wiki's content? This is in reference to a comment made on Crafting's talk page (cc'd to Quatroking's TP since he's the other active I know who might know). -Wulfenbach (not on fire for once) 05:31, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No, no wiki material is subject to copyright unless it is specified so (ie; an image) MoonBeans 20:09, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Um, that's not correct. All material, whether text or images are subject to copyright or licensing. Each contributor holds copyright on their submissions by default, but unless otherwise tagged, all content falls under the Curse.com terms of service, meaning Curse owns it, and it can not be used by other sites without their permission.-- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  20:11, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Header Tabs
You mentioned on the historization page that you could use header tabs, could you explain that to me? MoonBeans 19:50, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Here is a page on another wiki that uses it. http://www.faxionwiki.com/Vainglory it allows me to "stack" the tables, however, it can be used to do the same to text or any other data. Also, the tabs can be configured to look more like tabs with outlines etc. It simply worked better on that wiki to not do it that way. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:53, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks great, how do I use them? MoonBeans 20:07, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If everyone else agrees, I will get the extension installed this week. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  20:08, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll post about it on the community portal. MoonBeans (u-t-c) 13:45, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

GermanWiki collapsable/expandable
Hi from the GermanWiki. Can you tell me why expandable/collapsable dont work in the GermanWiki? If I want to test your example, no corresponding function is displayed. Greetings --The Miner 01:31, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I have solved it just itself. My fault but thanks anyway :). Greetings --The Miner -  MCWikiAdministrator  02:54, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

GermanWiki deleted crafting output files
Hi, Ultradude25 deleted today all crafting output files. Unhappily in the German version, too. Now we are missing a lot of pictures! look here. How can this happen? -- Oliver Scholz -  German MCWiki Administrator  20:05, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You need to update the Crafting pages on the German wiki. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  00:04, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Minecraft Sports
Hi Wynthyst,

you just deleted my entry as Minecraft Sports Discussion. I'm sorry if that was not the apropriate place to make a suggestion. But I really like to learn more about Minecraft Sports and think that would be an enrichment to this wiki and not very simple stuff everyone already knows.

So were is the right place to do such a suggestion?

And I'm also wondering why things get deleted here so quickly and unrecoverably. I was hoping to still find a history with older versions of that stuff, so that things aren't completely lost.

Cheers Zodac
 * The forum is the proper place for that kind of stuff. I believe there was some discussion about "sports" on the Community Portal talk page (Minecraft_Wiki_talk:Community_portal/Archive_3), you might want to check the archives. Things that are inappropriate are deleted when they are found. Since category pages can't be moved, there really is no option other than to delete them. Everything that gets deleted can be restored, but a random category talk page is unlikely to be. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  12:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank You, Wynthyst --Zodak 12:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Image error
When I view this image I get some errors at the top of the screen.

Warning: imagecreatefrompng: gd-png: fatal libpng error: IDAT: CRC error in /home/minecraftwiki/public_html/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 213 Warning: imagecreatefrompng: gd-png error: setjmp returns error condition in /home/minecraftwiki/public_html/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 213 Warning: imagecreatefrompng: '/home/minecraftwiki/public_html/images/5/5c/Fishing_1.png' is not a valid PNG file in /home/minecraftwiki/public_html/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 213 Warning: imagesx expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /home/minecraftwiki/public_html/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 231 Warning: imagesy expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /home/minecraftwiki/public_html/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 231 Warning: imagecopyresampled expects parameter 2 to be resource, boolean given in /home/minecraftwiki/public_html/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 231 Warning: imagedestroy expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /home/minecraftwiki/public_html/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 238

Any ideas? – ultradude25 ( T at 03:08, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope.. looks fine to me.. have you tried refreshing? -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  03:15, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

First:
Thank you for promotion to the new Dutch admin.

Second:

 * Moved this to: Minecraft_Wiki_talk:Directors

Dutch wiki

 * Dear Wynthyst, I have a few questions regarding the dutch wiki.
 * First: I made a basic layout for items on the Dutch page for Bone, since it wasn't in use yet. . One of the Dutch admins liked it but told me to consult the English admin. The titles in English are:
 * 1. Availability (as in, where to get it)
 * 2. Usage (as in, anything except crafting)
 * 3. Crafting (literally: Processing, we have no good dutch translation for crafting (I checked multiple sources for that word)) (Both using workbench and Furnace)
 * (There is a small bug with the crafting grid in there, since it's still a work in progress from another user, so I don't know the name of the bonemeal file yet.)
 * 4. Trivia (Facts like release day etc)
 * 5. References (obvious I think)
 * 6. See also (Articles that can be of particular interest for people who read this one)


 * Second: Since the "Been" article I somehow lost my ability to create a new page. Is this a very recent change in policy, or did I do something that has caused me to lose this right?
 * Third: The Dutch version of the wiki seems to lack a Citation Needed template, is this something I should report to you or a dutch Administrator?


 * Yours Truly, --Kettling 19:14, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * We changed our configuration slightly this morning to make it harder for spammers to attack the wikis. To get your page creation rights back you simply need to make 10 other edits.. go fix some typos or something and have it be at least 3 days since you created your account. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but we've had ongoing spam attacks and this is the best way to resolve them right now. As for page layouts and page titles, I want to see all 6 sites working in sync on this kind of stuff with the English wiki taking the lead. So if there is an article on the English wiki, it should be followed as far as layout etc, on the multi lingual subdomains. As for templates, talk to the Dutch admins, or wait til your once again able to create pages and do it yourself :D -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:25, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Dear Wynthyst, I have had a look at the first 12 items in the items table, but there are differences in the page layout. Which item should the page layout for future item-related dutch articles follow? The Dutch version I just posted did contain everything that occured in the English item pages, but not all english item pages contain all sections. (Oh, I just noticed I forgot something in my previous description that might be notable: point 3, crafting is both crafting with a workbench and crafting with a furnace.) --Kettling 19:37, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I would use the layout that provides the most information. This is a discussion that the admins need to take up as part of the new Directors discussions. Keep up the good work. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:42, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * In that case, would it be wise, and possible, for me to submit the layout I made as a topic for the Directors discussions? Yours truly, --Kettling 19:46, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Point STS to it on his talk page.... -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:47, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

My page
Now is good? [=  Lewandowski PL ( TALK / DYSKUSJA # CONTRIB /WKŁAD ) 22:05, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's better. thanks! It needs to be subst though. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  22:08, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Directors discussion page
Some of the text I've seen about Project:Directors suggests that it's intended to be specifically admin-only. I understand that it's meant to be a central discussion point for all admins from the six language versions of the MC Wiki, but is the intention indeed to have it closed to non-admins, or is that just a misunderstanding on my part? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:44, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No, that is the intention. If you wish to have input on any of the topics, take it to the admins of your wiki. While nothing that is done on any of the wikis is intended to be done without community input, the director's page is strictly for dialogue between the admins of the various language sites. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  01:48, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Is it possible to add a link to the directors page on the sidebar, that only shows up for people in the directors group? – ultradude25 ( T at 01:56, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * All right, I'm not going to argue it, but I will voice my opinion that it seems an unnecessary restriction, especially given the technical nature of the discussions currently taking place on it - if I have something I want to say there in relation to technical matters (especially templates), but have to go through an admin, I have no guarantee they will be able to correctly articulate what I'm wanting to say, and even less guarantee that they'll quote me instead of trying to rephrase it, or even just offer a link to my comment. I appreciate the desire to control who participates in these discussions, but it may be better in the long run to at least allow those non-admin editors with technical inclinations and experience to participate in the technical discussions.
 * Now, as for why I asked this, based on my skimming of the crafting template animations discussion, it looks like the German wiki wanted a loop extension installed so they could have animations without needing actual animated images. If this is the case, I was going to point out that, since Javascript is being used anyways, it would be possible to create a pure JS solution to this (making use of class names), without needing any additional extensions (though I myself don't know nearly enough about coding in JS to create such a solution). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:03, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Well that discussion was on this page to start with, and the extension has already been installed. Feel free to go to the template page, or to the admin's talk page and discuss your ideas there. Technically, the specifics of that discussion don't really belong on the Director's page but rather on the template page. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  02:17, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've actually been intending to have a closer look at that template at some point anyways; I have the nagging feeling that its code/logic could be simplified by a decent amount (not that I am suggesting anything about Ultradude's coding skills; he did an amazing job on the template as is ;) ). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:09, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sure your coding expertise will be appreciated. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  03:13, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Say what you want about my coding skills, they're non-existent. I really just punch the keyboard for a bit and hope something works... :P – ultradude25 ( T at 03:20, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * LOL, I've had days like that... Keep at it, and you'll improve. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Re:Hi
Okay. Sorry about that! I've been a bit stuck in homework and been a bit angry the past couple of weeks. I'll make sure I be nice to others. R ocĸetor talk  05:16, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, it was just a reminder :D -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  05:19, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Registering a bot and :pl mediawiki configuration
Hi, I want to use a bot account. Is it possible to register User:R2-D2 and fr:Utilisateur:R2-D2 (on the french wiki) as bots? Thanks

Also I have issues with the pl wiki when I was testing the bot: Error downloading data: No JSON object could be decoded Request pl:/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=magicwords&format=json"

Do you have any idea of what is the problem? – Scaler (t) 09:06, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * First off, what do you want to do with the bots? We already have 2 bots on the English wiki, I'm not sure there is a need for a 3rd.


 * I'm not sure what the bot error is, I will ask about it. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  09:13, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


 * On the English wiki just fixing/adding interwiki links. Thanks for adding the bot flag on the French wiki. I will add the projects log on the bot page soon.
 * It seems the error is due to the fact that the "scriptpath" on the pl version is different than on the other languages versions (ex with the main page pl.minecraftwiki.net/Strona_główna while on en it is: www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki)
 * I think I will have the same problem with the ru wiki. I will first try to look if this is configurable on my bot options. – Scaler (t) 09:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


 * It seems the error with the pl: wiki, comes from a special character (BOM, Chacter Issues on mediawiki.org) on the api.php or an other edited file. Is it possible to save them as utf8 without BOM? Thanks – Scaler (t) 22:21, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately not that I know of, it's because of the polish alphabet. Since it's the polish language wiki, we are not going to disable the polish alphabet. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  22:46, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree to not doing that ^^", but BOM is not part of the polish alphabet, it is just a useless character added by crappy text editors like windows notepad when the file is save in utf8 encoding (more info here: BOM). The only way to fix it, is to open the file with a good text editor (notepadd++ for example) and without editing the file to save it in utf8-without-bom encoding. – Scaler (t) 07:36, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I will talk to our techs about it and see if it's something that can be resolved. I don't have direct access to backend stuff. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  07:53, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Do you have any news about this, please? I am a little frustrated not being able to use my bot on to fix interwiki links ^^". – Scaler (t) 15:27, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Registering.
Hey Wynthyst, guess who jumped on the Minecraft bandwagon? ^^

I was wondering how to make new pages, or at least, how to register correctly (since that should let me do that). Clicking the link on the main page just goes to the log in page, then back to the main. Cant make a user page, but can make talk pages. Is this the way this wiki is set up, or is it just me (the likely answer, with my luck). Couldn't find a page to put a topic like this on either, and your the only friendly face.

Pleasure running in to you here! &mdash; Neithan Diniem   †  08:09, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * We had some spam issues, so, you have to get autoconfirmed before you can create new pages. (3 days and 10 edits) Just make some typo corrections or some such and wait the 3 days. Watch your usergroups in preferences. Nice to see you here too. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  08:33, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, thought that it would be something like that. Good idea. Prevent problems from starting up too easily and all. Now just to find typos or whatnot... &mdash;  Neithan Diniem   †  09:09, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you can make any type of edit (I think even talk page posts count ~ go find the other GWW crowd and say hi :D) -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  09:11, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Admin
What are the requirements of becoming an administrator? I'd like to know as one day I'd like to become one. Of course, it will not be any time soon, I would just like to know what I'm aiming for. Thanks, R ocĸetor talk  09:39, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Not spamming talk pages with useless junk would probably be a good start. This isn't a forum for idle chat. – ultradude25 ( T at 09:46, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Provide solid and steady contributions to the wiki. Do not incite drama... encourage discussion, participate in discussion. All of these things will demonstrate a person's character. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  09:49, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


 * What did I do to you Ultra?! --R ocĸetor talk  09:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


 * You didn't do anything to me. I'm just pointing out that spamming talk pages isn't going to get you anywhere. – ultradude25 ( T at 09:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't spam, I ask questions. After all, I'm still a newcomer compared to most of the experts here. I need some help from people. Also, I like complimenting people. --R ocĸetor talk  09:44, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


 * You don't spam? Hmm, then what do you call these?      – ultradude25  ( T at 10:11, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hush Ultra... he's sharing ideas. There's no harm, though many of those topics would be better on the forums. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  10:32, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


 * And that's exactly my point. – ultradude25 ( T at 10:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, but engaging the community in discussion about the game is not spam. It's actually a positive thing in community building. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  10:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright, I admit those posts were over the top. But with the Pigman one, I removed myself, the wolf creeper thing actually ended up having a positive response (with the nether and wolves), the last two I admit were spam, but overall, about 90% of my userpage-related and community portal contributions are questions...I don't wish to talk about this anymore. --R ocĸetor <font color="Black">talk  11:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

ERROR
I got an error on the Dutch wiki will you might take a look at it?

The error I get:

It's on the Dutch Crafting page. I keep getting the error, even after several refreshes.

Directors
I noticed you've added the directors page to the sidebar, which is great, but it also shows up for people that aren't in the directors group, which is rather useless to them. Would it be possible to make it only show up for directors group? Or was this intended functionality? – ultradude25 ( T at 07:42, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


 * If every person who is a director (and no one else) is a member of a given usergroup, JS could be added to MediaWiki:Common.js which checks if the user is a member of said group and, if not, to hide the link (the logic could also work in reverse, though that might be a bit more work). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * There's no harm in everyone being able to see it, I mean, it's not exactly "hidden" or secret. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  16:16, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It's not about harm, it's about usefulness. Anyone not in the directors group now has a link in their sidebar with no use. – ultradude25 ( T at 23:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I find it useful; it's nice to see who's running this wiki. --<font color="Red">R ocĸetor <font color="Black">talk  06:47, 6 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Good point. – ultradude25 ( T at 06:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It also lets the community see what their admins are talking about. If they have ideas, or viewpoints they'd like to add, they can easily contact the appropriate admin. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  07:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

no redirect
Hey, in our wiki the most pages have German names. (torch -> Fackel) Is there a possibility to find the correct article without a redirect (ID's in the article?). thx -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  09:48, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Why would German players be looking for English names? And no, I don't believe there is a way without using the semantic extension which we don't have. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  09:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * In the game, everything is described in English. Therefore, we know only this names. Too bad that there is no alternative. -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  10:15, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You could just make a page with a table of English items and blocks and whatsoever and a link to the corresponding German page.--STS(t 14:14, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * We are working on it already: Begriffsübersetzung -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  14:19, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Personally, I would recommend redirects. That is what that feature is for, to facilitate search. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:58, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed users
If someone worked a lot, can I give him "Autoconfirmed users"? -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  19:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * They get that automatically by waiting 3 days, registering an email and making 10 edits. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  22:14, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry, I fail :( -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  22:36, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Two other things:

1. Why have users the right forcepreviewexempt? This was different (I think)

2. Did you get the message from Chuckl0r about copyright? (© 2006-2010 Curse, Inc.) -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">de.Wiki Admin 14:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The forced preview was removed for registered users as per the discussion on the community portal talk page and yes, I got Chuck's message, but that's in the footer that is serverside. I've asked for it to be updated, but it's not a high priority atm. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  15:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * ok, at curse.com it's also wrong. :) -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">de.Wiki Admin 15:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no control over that at all. I cannot even make suggestions. I work with the wikis... I will however mention it to my boss. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  15:16, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

possibilities
Notch said this on twitter:

'how about making minecarts act like lava boats?'

And people added it to the 1.5 section. And he said it a day before the update (today). Should we automatically add items he just either announces or suggests to the next version, or should we only add announced ones, and suggests to the 'items' set? Because notch never said he was going to add lava minecart boats in 1.5. --<font color="Red">R ocĸetor <font color="Black">talk  21:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No. Anything that has not actually been added to the game, can be added to the wiki, but it has to be tagged as a future feature. The article should have clear references cited, and be obvious that it is not yet implemented into the game. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  00:14, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Image uploading permissions issue
I have confirmed my email and verified this in my preferences pane, but I still get the following error when attempting to upload an image:

You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason:

You do not have permission to create new pages.

Burpen 15:30, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

not enough pages? really?
Some days ago you say the german Wiki has not enough pages, respectively the english version has much more pages. Today I look why:


 * some redirects like "Grey sheep" in the "All Pages" list (en:1126 total / de:339 total)
 * other languages (ko, sp, ...)
 * when i click at Special:AllPages I see ~1500 pages, why?

Today we have 322 content pages, the english wiki 801. I think with this background knowledge that is a good value.

Greetings -- 16:59, 29 April 2011 (UTC)