Minecraft Dungeons talk:End Vindicator

Mistake
I feel that the end vindicator was created simply due to a glitch. See, the lower layer of a vindicator is seperate from the upper shirt layer. The animators may have accidentally made the lower layer completely white on accident, or to possibly reduce lag. I doubt the devs would make a unique vindicator for just a cutscene that is almost identical to it's implemented counterpart. M3FF1N (talk) 21:48, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe it is an unused variant that got cut. Maybe putting it in a cutscene is the equivalent of making a statue of the Wildfire in the Flames of The Nether. For now, we can’t assume anything such as something being a mistake. All we know is that it appears in a cutscene. So unless you can get in touch somehow with the developers, it stays as a cutscene mob because that is what we know. Drour1234 (talk), 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I mostly agree, just stating my opinion to see what other people think. I don't like to assume things, I just like to say out loud what I am thinking in talk pages, so that there is no edits or deletes made that are not supposed to be made. M3FF1N (talk) 22:23, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

This is just a vindicator
they rendered the mobs in the cutscene. The vindicator had a render glitch that made the lower layer white and not its default thing

that's an error of texture

transparent white pixels in the texture

they actual render in the video

that's an actual bug

End vindicator/evoker/enchanter... don't actually exist

that's just a normal vindicator without axe


 * If it was an error, Mojang would have fixed it. We do not know what it is, either a cutscene mob or an error. Drour1234 (talk), 12 June 2022 (UTC)


 * its an error Endermanmansukh88 (talk) 00:50, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * If you think it is an error, than report it on the bug tracker. Clearly, Mojang has not “fixed” it, so the mob must either not be a bug, or Mojang just is not aware of it. We do not know what it is, either a cutscene mob or an error. Until we do, we cannot make assumptions. Drour1234 (talk), 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Rendering mistake and I can prove it.
Unlike the End Illager (Unofficial Name), the "End Vindicator" is nothing but a rendering problem with transparency in the texture. The mob in question is just a Vindicator. Vindicator textures have a transparent area at the bottom and top of their jacket that reveals the interior clothing. While rendering it, the program probably had problems rendering the transparency of the texture and by default rendered white.

More evidence to this argument is the fact that after the defeat of the final boss of the Echoing Void DLC, the Vengeful Heart of Ender, the cutscene showing villagers and players finally at peace, we can see some villagers with transparent areas rendered white instead like a cleric for example.

Also I do not think that Mojang really cares about it. They took so long to add the Wildfire for what? If Minecraft Dungeons is in such a state, do you think they care about rendering transparency white? I think not. I understand the concern about it being a new mob, but let's not negate the obvious and evident. I suggest the page is either removed or that it at least explains the possibility of it being a mistake.

Much obliged. Witheremperor2006 (talk) 01:49, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree that it is likely an error. However, rather than deleting all of the information outright. I believe that it should be moved to the trivia section of the regular vindicator page.Drour1234 (talk) 12:46, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I totally agree with you. We can move it to the trivia section. Much obliged for your amazing suggestion. It was the right thing to do. =D. Witheremperor2006 (talk) 19:45, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I definitely agree with this TBH. It's a very similar situation with the, wherein it is a mob that has so little info on it that it should be a trivia mention on another larger page. Might be useful in getting rid of some of these stub pages that have become ever so prevalent on this wiki. James Haydon (talk) 19:52, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Exactly. I think the trivia section exists for a reason. It is also easier for people to find all info in one page instead of 4 pages for example. Witheremperor2006 (talk) 20:05, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Pages with little information could be moved to subsections on other pages.Drour1234 (talk) 12:48, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * These are not cutscenes made by the game developer team themselves currently, they are all made by outsourced animation teams, and those outsourced teams can't even tell the difference between vindicator and pillager: Arcade sounds, books, trailer etc. You can watch the animations released by Minecraft's official youtube, just the eyes of the pillager have two colors, and sometimes changed the evoker's pupil color to gray. And the 1.14 trailer "Blue redstone" error, I found the same white alpha channel cutscene issues on villagers too. These are not part of the game, game developer team cannot handle it. So please delete end vindicator and tough end vindicator. Alan (talk) 05:47, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I commented that gray pupil on the video, however, the team that made that particular animations know minecraft very very well. They are Element Animation (the guys that make Villager news). The in-game one however is not about the animation team itself, its about a render mistake.

Witheremperor2006 (talk) 16:08, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Element Animation is one of the outsourcing animation team. The voice and copywriting of the 1.14 Official Villager News you mentioned is the work of Minecraft in cooperation with Elemental Animation. The animation and texture are provided by the official Minecraft. You can buy these official texture in Bedrock edition marketplace. And I am referring to the animation team of Village & Pillage:Official Trailer above, not villager news. In fact, Element Animation team only participated in the production of 2 official animations: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnVrQgGuTfZ8t0jWVUieWMZ3xap4STIDm

Alan (talk) 04:59, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You might actually wish to search it up mate. Village and Pillage trailer, Minecraft live 2020, 2021 and 2022 anouncement trailers, Nether Update trailer, Caves and Cliffs Part 1 and Part 2 trailer. I'm guessing all that is more than 2 animations. Pure math. And I am not saying your argument is wrong. However, in this "mob" in question, it has nothing to do with who animated it. The transparency of the texture just didn't render and was rendered white. That's all there is to know. Now stop all of you making a big deal about a rendering mistake, delete this page, and move on to things that actually matter. Also I never mentioned that villager and pillager news vedeo in colab with mojang. Villager news is just an old series for wich they are famous for. It's a series, not a singular video. I was not reffering to such video. Witheremperor2006 (talk) 05:50, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Here again, just relying on "I'm guessing" has no convincing, remember the rules of the wiki? Evidence and references are the most convincing, the YouTube listing link above was created by Element animation on their own channel. And I provided my evidence, what about yours?  Please do not just make empty talk or guessing. We are discussing rendering errors in the official trailer, not just villager news series, and I don't see any rendering errors in these 2 collaborative works. Alan (talk) 04:07, 14 October 2022 (UTC)