Talk:Tutorials/Griefing prevention

should be careful to keep this article NEUTRAL. Having an anti-greifer stance, while it is the opinion of most minecraft users, is not proper on a wiki. Remember this article is here for information purposes, it is not to help nor hinder griefing. --Peroggi 05:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Everything beyond the first paragraph should probably be culled for relevance then. It's not an explanation of griefing--it's a shopping list of things for griefers to do.  For example, "Social Engineering" isn't a type of griefing, it's a technique someone might use to further their goal of griefing.  "Sanding"?  Seriously?  ...and "time"?  They're all but saying "If you want to grief, simply wait until the admins aren't looking." --Dagmar d&#39;Surreal 20:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Etymology
I don't know where or why the word 'griefer' has it's definition on MC, but someone should know...

No, the term griefer is usually used to describe a person who causes another one grief, and is usually used in the context of a game. A griefer is usually someone who doesn't hack (but they can be a hacker), but uses some glitch or bug in the software to cause grief. --WedTM 17:33, 22 August 2010 (PDT)

It's a relatively new word (Wikipedia) and specifically describes the mindset of people who enjoy kicking over your sandcastles. --JellyfishGreen 10:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Anti-griefing
Is it appropriate to list anti-griefing measures here, like tree and fire flags, or password-protected servers?

More philosophically, the design of the game permits behavior X, where for example X=adding blocks; performing X on a structure that is not your own can be either co-op play (when done with agreement) or griefing; how thus could griefing be designed out of the game? --JellyfishGreen 10:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Griefer List
This might be a very valuable list so servers know which accounts to ban from their servers because of the nature of griefers.

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 * It probably wouldnt be practical, for it would get very large very quickly. Besides, griefers often change names and IPs so the bans are then useless.Toadbert


 * lets not do that, shall we?--Quatroking - Garble Garble! 22:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


 * we shall! Toadbert