Talk:Redstone (disambiguation)

Not a disambiguation
This page is NOT a disambiguation -- RobinKanters 11:24, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Why capital?
I see it written with a small r more often than not. 99.253.198.49 22:36, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Its impossible to make a title without a capital.

Maxwell the scribblenaut 20:46, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

crafting recipes don't belong on disambiguation pages
This point was raised by user Orthotope and used as motivation to cull information from the disambiguation.

< response from original page author > There must be a clear and homogenous blurb definition if people searching Redstone are to find the articles they want.

The definition format is simple and is such; article subject | source | use this is a very common disambiguation definition format across many wikis.

Orthotope I will show some examples in the best interests of your understanding.

subject Source use

Redstone Ore - Redstone in its natural form. It's found deep underground and can be smashed producing Redstone Dust.

Redstone Dust - Redstone in a collectible form. Obtained from Redstone Ore it can be placed in the world producing Redstone Wire or used as a component in Crafting and Brewing.

Redstone Circuits / Advanced Redstone Circuits - projects built from Redstone components and regular blocks  which accomplish work by routing Redstone signals.

As you can see the definition format works the same for simple highly literal articles, as well as for complex abstract articles.

The fact is that people seeking articles usually have some combination of source use and subject; referencing these in a disambiguation page allows for smooth and minimal page traversal.

Thank you for your concern on this matter; more help is always welcome and there is no reason these pages can't change for the better ! But please in future ask questions and collect information about pages before trying to critically analyse them.

Thanks, luke. ( if you want to say something Orthotope then please do; start a topic with the relevant name and I will be happy to listen to your opinions, I'm not Adare, but he's with me ) –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Adare (Talk&#124;Contribs) 05:01, 6 September 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * 1) I consider it unlikely that  would be unwilling to comment publicly.
 * 2) However, that is irrelevant, as this is a wiki; pages are not 'owned' by anyone, nor does the original author have any more say over their contents than any other user.
 * 3) Don't try to sockpuppet.
 * 4) Don't insult the admins.
 * 5) A brief description of what a block or item is used for is appropriate on a disambiguation page. The specific ingredients it is created from (such as repeaters being crafted from torches, dust, and stone) are not relevant, and do not help someone trying to find one of the linked-to pages. -- Orthotope 03:17, 6 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Also, see wiki rule 18 about signing posts on talk pages, and rule 21 about multiple authors using a single account. -- Orthotope 05:08, 6 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I guess it's just a coincidence that you have the same IP address and user agent. Pretty funny you say this is not your first wiki, yet you don't even understand the basics of a wiki, like how to use a talk page, or that you don't own a page. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs at 05:51, 6 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Also side note, you all shouldn't have gotten into a revert war, if they are just going to revert as soon as you do, there's no point and it just clutters everything up, so just leave it next time and report the reverter. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs at 05:54, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

The picture
Hello, Adare here, I'm responsible for all the images on the Redstone disambiguation page, I have seen several waves of response regarding the large example image ( the switch on a block - powering the wire - powering the door )

Some people are unhappy with the formatting ( demanding a link and frame ) Others are unhappy with the image content ( requesting a less embedded and more Redstone oriented image )

I feel that both points have there merit.. However I have had trouble in the past finding a more suitable candidate which satisfies everyone's demands.

So I would like to open this as a place we can discuss the various constraints and ultimately select an image we can all enjoy seeing here.

please append this topic instead of replying in full. Thanks guys.


 * File:DoorPowered.png demonstrates a redstone circuit. It contains redstone wire, but none of the other items listed on this page. It's also not a very good image in its own right, being taken from an awkward angle. File:Allredstone.png is modeled after the images on the diamond, emerald, gold, iron, and lapis lazuli pages, which show most, if not all, of their disambiguation targets. -- Orthotope 05:08, 6 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Admittedly, my image is a bit cluttered, given all the elements I was trying to pack into it. Anyone is welcome to replace it with a cleaner configuration of blocks. -- Orthotope 06:22, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

What should I do with an article I wrote?
I wrote an article (User:LB/Redstone Power Types) but I'm not sure what I should do with it.  LB ( T 23:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Reverts
Tommorow I intend to exercise my role in this creative community by making positive changes as best I can.

I've wrote several versions of this disambiguation previously ( including all definitions in the current one ).

Ultradude25 has been making reversion changes to the dissambiguation without explaining why, he has as yet added no information to the page and I do not with to get into an editing tug-o-war with such an individual. So here i shall explain myself in a way everyone can understand.

My intent is to improve ( / repair ) sentence structure and include a small blurb equivalent to a term disambiguation as is commonly seen on wikipedias popular disambiguations ( eg. see; science, evolution, mathematics... )

I would be happy to hear other perspectives on these changes and I am in no way stuck or stubborn on the details.

But I do ask members to please show maturity and to please not meaninglessly revert my work.

Your friendly Redstone expert - 119.12.169.167 04:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Luke.


 * Look at the page history, and note that many of the major contributors to the wiki were in agreement about which version of the page to use. Exactly one person was pushing the version you reverted to, ignoring all arguments against it. I advise you to think very carefully about what you're doing before starting another edit war. There are many other, more constructive ways to contribute to the wiki than rephrasing a disambiguation page. -- Orthotope 04:48, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


 * You're the only person that wants that version and all you give for a reason is that it is "your" version and even going as far as saying anyone who edits your version is vandalising.
 * In the end this is a disambiguation page, it just links people to the relating redstone pages, a lot of people won't even see this page and any that do will just spend a few seconds choosing which page to click on. I can't believe how worked up you're getting over such a non-critical page, you act as if the world will end if we don't use your version. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 07:57, 26 December 2012 (UTC)