Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard

Continuous misinformation, mainly regarding Single Player Commands and the Human entity, but also including other things. --Pokechu22 (talk) 18:30, 2 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Bringing this back up as he's not stopped for months. Skylinerw (talk) 20:35, 13 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Bumping this again as no action has been taken since the account was created. -BDJP (t 20:43, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Can confirm, still adding misinformation that even I have to revert. I suggest a 2-week or 1-month ban. --MarioProtIV (talk) 16:30, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * This is very weird. How did any administrator not notice this topic? It’s months old. I would partially blame that on apparently lower activity of administrators that I see in the recent changes. But what if there is a different reason? — NickTheRed37 (issues’ wall) 16:40, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Wait, almost 9 months of misinformation (if not more), and neither a block nor a final warning? And a 1 month block is thought to be able to stop him (i. e. for a longer time than the block's duration)? Is there absolutely any reason not to go straight to a long-term block?
 * In addition, please remind me, are all blocks still Gamepedia-wide? --AttemptToCallNil, previously known as GreenStone (report bug, view backtrace) 16:55, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe the user thinks the information is true. We should [ give a warning], as you said has not happened. The BlobsPaper.png 02:27, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I already gave him a warning weeks ago. -BDJP (t 03:47, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Still is continuing to add continuous misinformation. ,, or please just block this kid (a year-long ban might be good enough), is still annoying all of us. --MarioProtIV (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Shhhh, shhhh, don’t insult here... — NickTheRed37 (issues’ wall) 15:58, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Can confirm that the user in question continues to add unsourced information. He's been warned multiple times on this on his talk page (I even told him how to contribute properly to feature discussion without angering other editors) but he persists. It's been almost a year, most of us are tired of cleaning up after him. Some admin action is needed here! Superspace (talk) 19:21, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * He is still adding misinformation, block ASAP. --MarioProtIV (talk) 15:04, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * And since no “regular” admin tries to block this user, I will pass this to Curse. Game widow, can you block CreeperFan2015 for misinformation, please? — NickTheRed37 (issues’ wall) 16:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like took care of it (thank you!!). He was blocked for 1 month. --MarioProtIV (talk) 11:54, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hooray. Although it would be better to have the sanctions last longer. But the thing doesn’t end with this ban, this is only a half of the matter... — NickTheRed37 (issues’ wall) 12:40, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Latency of the administrators
The user CreeperFan2015 had to be blocked for his actions a long half-of-a-year ago. But only now did the administrators react. On the other hand, they paid attention to other harmful, block-worthy users and responded in kind. Here comes the question: How did administrators not react to the user for months? Why is the block duration so short (1 month), and is it connected to the latency? — <b style="font-variant: small-caps; letter-spacing: 1px">NickTheRed37</b> (issues’ wall)</i> 12:40, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I've always wondered if the reason their not seeing it is because it's at the top of the page, and not at the bottom (where they check?). The worst case scenario being that CreeperFan2015 may be related to one of the admins (I doubt it, but it's an interesting and scary thought). -75.179.18.235 15:35, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Apologies for not blocking the user earlier, I personally didn't see the request until I saw the revived discussion in the recent changes feed. I do think potentially making a new thread rather than reviving an old one would be better in the future. The user is also not related to the administration team in any way. –<b style=color:#282>Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 22:47, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

More spam accounts
and. Neither of them have made any contributions, but it's pretty obvious by their user profile. -BDJP (t 22:09, 4 January 2016 (UTC)


 * And more: and . – LauraFi  -  talk  03:10, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * ,, Is there any way to improve our spam filter to insta-block these sorts of accounts? I've noticed many occurrences of spam accounts recently.  –<b style=color:#282>Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 06:47, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Because the content of user profiles is saved in your preferences, it bypasses the spam filters as well as such things as the URL blacklist. In addition, admins don't have any way of removing spammy or abusive content from a profile - we can ask a user to do so themselves, and block them if they refuse, but that's the extent of it. I would hope that staff has the means to do so, but it would be inconvenient to have to make a request of them every time such content needs to be removed. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:17, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I tweaked MediaWiki:Titleblacklist to try to catch some of it. What's really frustrating is that the spammers seem to have discovered that user profiles aren't subject to the abuse filter or spam blacklist, and we can't do anything to clean up the mess. -- Orthotopetalk 09:23, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * It’s Curse staff that should be able to resist that. Game widow? — Agent NickTheRed37 (talk) 15:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * More incoming: Special:Log/newusers. Maybe IP-block them? — Agent NickTheRed37 (talk) 15:58, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * My god. That's a lot. The words "Watch" and "movie" seem to be in the vast majority of the spam account names, so those shouldbe the main ones to blacklist. - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 16:41, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I've updated the blacklist, but this is just a game of spam whack-a-mole, and it's not even effective as long as the profile content remains; we desperately need staff's attention here. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:40, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Autoblock should be blocking the IPs used to create the accounts, but they're probably using a botnet or proxies to get around that; only Curse staff have the checkuser right to see IP addresses. I'm a bit frustrated that Curse developed and pushed out the profile system without appearing to consider its spam/abuse potential. The only real solution I see is to have profile edits go through the spam and abuse filters, and give admins the ability to edit or delete profiles and comments. Until that can be implemented, I wouldn't mind having account creation disabled temporarily. -- Orthotopetalk 20:53, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry to speak out of turn, just happened to be wondering around the pages, and I could not help noticing the checkuser related comment above. Clearly that would help a lot here, and also at other times...  This may be info you guys already have, but it is my understanding that from a "legal" point of view on any wiki if the "admins" were / are willing to provide their real world names and details to the owner of that wiki then there is no reason (from a legal point of view) why the owner of that wiki should not grant "admins" checkuser rights.  MrN9k (talk) 17:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * These spammers (or this type of spammer) is prevalent across a lot of sites. I know I've seen tons of them on reddit (I used to try and deal with it - they create subreddits which also don't really get spam filtered properly; same kind of whack a mole there), and I've also seen them post spam on gameinformer and on some abandoned jira bugtracker (mostly so that they can link to it without getting caught in other spam filters...).  At least I see that the profile links have   set.  Getting proper spam filtering on profiles would be pretty important, and blanking them too. --Pokechu22 (talk) 22:50, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Another one:. -BDJP (t 09:53, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I've sent out an email about the implementation issue with user profiles, so hopefully something can be done about it.
 * They have random IPs and user agents, so I would assume it's a botnet. Since you can probably still edit your preferences while blocked, there's probably not much point to even blocking them, as they could just edit their profile again. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 10:37, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Another one: . -BDJP (t 18:53, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Another few: and.
 * Also, for the record, I would like to say that I suspending user creation until this matter is fully resolved.
 * Another one: . -BDJP (t 20:38, 8 January 2016 (UTC)


 * More:, , , ,.
 * I think you should add HD to the Titleblacklist. --Mine4017 (talk) 18:29, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Even more: and . -BDJP (t 18:34, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Blacklisting "HD" seems likely to have a lot of false positives. At least Curse did change things to let admins edit profiles and delete comments, so we can get rid of the spam links. A lot of it appears intended to boost a site's search engine rankings by having a popular, reputable site (i.e., the Minecraft wiki) link to it. -- Orthotopetalk 02:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if it would make sense for this to be an SEO issue - as I previously mentioned, those links have "|rel=nofollow" set on them, which should deincentivize it. (Also, if you're looking for words to block, perhaps "putlocker" would be one of them - I don't think that would have any normal use here).  --Pokechu22 (talk) 02:39, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Another one:. -BDJP (t 17:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Another few: and . -BDJP (t 12:33, 16 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Another few: and . -BDJP (t 11:11, 19 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Another one: . -BDJP (t 18:07, 22 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Another one: . -BDJP (t 15:21, 23 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Another one, I guess: (and yes, I know that I'm a Dutch admin reporting a potential English spam account on the English Wiki) --  DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 19:16, 23 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Not seeing any spammy behavior from that last one. -- Orthotopetalk 23:49, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

OK, just ignore my message then :P -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 14:43, 24 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Another one: . -BDJP (t 11:09, 25 January 2016 (UTC)


 * This has to be one, because it looks the same as 'Socialmediaperth': --  DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 15:49, 25 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Again, I don't appear to be seeing some spammy behavior from that one. Another one: . -BDJP (t 01:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Another few: and . -BDJP (t 10:19, 8 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Another few: and . -BDJP (t 09:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Spam. – LauraFi -  talk  14:36, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism and unexplained changes. -BDJP (t 17:30, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Many of the changes reference the pt-br wiki (pt-br:Minecraft: Story Mode/EP4), where the name "Reuben" is used instead of "Gabriel". Although I've never played Minecraft: Story Mode, is it possible that the character's name is different in Portuguese?  --Pokechu22 (talk) 18:55, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


 * No, it is not. -BDJP (t 19:43, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Possibly a sockpuppet created by Djmaickel13 to evade any blocks (Hasn't been blocked yet, though). -BDJP (t 18:46, 26 January 2016 (UTC)


 * No contributions from either account, nothing in the abuse logs. If there are issues at some point, wp:Autoblock will take care of both. -- Orthotopetalk 01:43, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Range block.
IPs with bold lettering have been blocked before.



For the past five months, these IPs have been edit warring with several editors over vandalism and unexplained changes on Minecraft 1.0 and 1.0.0. They just started up again today. -BDJP (t 14:26, 31 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Looks like a dynamic IP address, assuming this is the same person; only one has ever been active at any given time. Blocking that entire range (71.3.136.0/21) would affect some 2,000 other addresses as well. Unless someone is actively changing IPs to get around blocks, that would be a lot of collateral damage to cause. -- Orthotopetalk 21:09, 31 January 2016 (UTC)


 * A few examples of when the IP's evaded blocks:
 * 71.3.137.17 was blocked for a month on September 12, 2015 for vandalism. Two IPs in particular (71.3.142.187 and 71.3.139.214) edited within that month-long time frame.
 * 71.3.139.139 was blocked for a month on November 21, 2015 for vandalism as well. One IP, 71.3.139.144, edited within that month-long time frame. -BDJP (t 03:22, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Bumping this as another IP with the same first two numbers has started edit warring today. -BDJP (t 15:38, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Current issues post-update
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I felt like this was the best place to do so, hopefully so MCWiki Administrators as well as Curse and Gamepedia staff can hopefully fix them.

Anyway, there appears to be some issues from the update to the latest version of MediaWiki, which include (and hopefully, limited to):


 * 1) Everything with Wii U in it either has a red link or does not show up properly. Some examples are the main page and the OS template.
 * 2) Pardon my language here, but the notification area looks like it got f**ked up by an explosion. Saying that I have over 99 notifications as well as one "talk page" notification.

Hopefully these issues get fixed soon. -BDJP (t 03:30, 4 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I found more issues...
 * number-id can not be use in "Link" templates like these:,.
 * Search function in other languages are broken (fr:Une erreur s'est produite en recherchant : Nous n’avons pas pu mener à bien votre recherche à cause d’un problème temporaire. Veuillez réessayer ultérieurement. zh:搜索时发生错误：由于出现暂时性的问题，我们未能完成您的搜索. 请稍后再试. ,etc.).
 * Kakagou12341 (talk) 03:50, 4 February 2016 (UTC)


 * BDJP:
 * Commons is down. Luckily there is very few images we use from there.
 * Opening the actual notifications page should at least clear the highlight.
 * Kakagou:
 * Nothing to do with this update, or MW at all. That was an intentional removal of a deprecated feature, which happened over 4 months ago.
 * Search is broken everywhere, but the suggestions in the search bar still work.
 * –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 04:01, 4 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Another few:
 * Gamepedia's bottom bar on short pages covers the sidebar.
 * 'Save draft'-button sometimes doesn't know where it belongs (when the editor doesn't load completely, it is on the right place, but when the editor does load completely, it is somewhere else).
 * Infoboxes are too far down.
 * When viewing a preview, text at the right top does a  for no reason, even if there is enough space.
 * -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 13:50, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This is tested in Mozilla Firefox, most recent version. Both the Dutch and the English Minecraft Wiki have those problems, and I think all the other MCW's too.


 * 3. Looks fine to me. Maybe you're using an adblocker, and you're seeing a gap left where the ad was?
 * 4. Can't reproduce, same issue perhaps?
 * –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 13:59, 4 February 2016 (UTC)


 * 3. Yes, using two adblockers (sorry!).
 * 4. Probably
 * And a new issue, only Dutch Minecraft Wiki:
 * 5. It seems like Chrome and Edge don't like the Dutch CSS. Firefox is fine. -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 14:09, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Issues 3 & 4 are solved for me by putting /* hide stuff I don't care about */ .atfmrec { display: none !important; } in my common.css (thanks to Dinoguy1000). Before I add this to the real CSS of the Wiki, will this remove ads for everyone on the Wiki or only for people using adblockers? -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 15:37, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) p-sharing,


 * Putting that in the site-wide CSS would hide ads for everyone, which Curse probably wouldn't appreciate. Keeping it in your personal CSS should be fine. -- Orthotopetalk 15:45, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Widget:FileUrl
Seems to return an error, at least on the Template:FileUrl page. Also returns errors on the Russian wiki. --GreenStone (talk) 13:27, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Seems to be fixed. --GreenStone (talk) 17:04, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Issues with nl:Template:Inventory slot
As title says, we have issues with Template:Invetory slot and every template that has somehow a connection with it on the Dutch Minecraft Wiki. It still shows the name from the items that are on it and the grid from e.g. the Crafting Table, but not the items that are on it. I tried to update every module of it, but it still says no. The issues apperead after Curse updated to MediaWiki 1.26, before that update there were no issues at all. -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 14:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The problem is that you're still using nl:Template:Grid in your crafting tables, but have removed the styling for it. InvSlot has its own separate styling. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 02:18, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * With deleting all the pages from Template:Grid, all the pages that have somehow a connection with Inventory slot are all fixed, but I have some nice cache issues... -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 10:44, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * ...probably would've been better to just restore the grid styling and then convert all the templates to use InvSlot, rather than delete everything and make pages even more broken. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 10:53, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Now that you say it... *Off topic* BTW, can you keep an eye on our recent changes? There are some spammers around that advertise mobile phone usage with pages over 5000 bytes and long titles in English. I cannot keep an eye on the recent changes forever, because I have some other stuff to do too. If you want, you can delete those pages and block those IP's forever, because they keep making unneeded pages. -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 11:37, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I've imported one of our filters which usually catches that sort of spam. Also, you should never infinite block IPs as they are most likely botnets, and will result in legitimate users across gamepedia not being able to edit. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 11:57, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * It works AMAZING I have to say. Thank you so much =) -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 16:37, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * As far as I can tell, at the German wiki, there has been a similar spam attack today (8 spam articles so far). Please update the filter there too, if it is necessary. | violine1101(Talk) 21:04, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * . –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 12:50, 7 February 2016 (UTC)


 * DarkShadowTNT@undefined so... are you intending on fixing the wiki or just leave all the recipes broken? –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 12:55, 7 February 2016 (UTC)


 * (redirected the Grids to the newer template version of them) It was probably better to redirect them. Didn't thought of it when deleting those Grid-templates. I just wanted to fix the newer template variants. When every page of the Wiki is updated, the old Grid-templates will go away, because by then we don't need them anymore. -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 13:55, 7 February 2016 (UTC)


 * * Off topic* Well, it looks like some bots became 'smart'. They make an account and spam via that account, but the filter prevents them from saving. -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 15:26, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Unacceptable username. -BDJP (t 18:12, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Also, I'm not sure if is an acceptable username either. I brought it up on this noticeboard a year ago with no response. -BDJP (t 18:14, 5 February 2016 (UTC)


 * By bringing it up before they have edited, you're making it an issue. Their name wouldn't have been seen again once it moves off the recent changes. I'm not actually sure what to do about so called "inappropriate" names. Blocking a user blocks them globally on gamepedia, so while a name like that might be inappropriate on a more... childish? wiki like here, on others it might not be. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 01:59, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * It's certainly pushing the bounds of good taste, but not quite as outright obscene as some of the accounts that have been blocked. My inclination is to allow borderline cases, as long as they aren't making any disruptive edits. If their behavior is problematic, having a questionable username is another strike against them. -- Orthotopetalk 02:40, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Toggling mobile view does not work anymore
Since Gamepedia has been updated to MediaWiki 1.26, it is not possible anymore to toggle the mobile view, so you cannot view the desktop version of the wiki on mobile phones, and vice-versa. | violine1101(Talk) 22:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC) Could someone at Curse (, or someone else) pass those issues to the responsible team(s), please? | violine1101(Talk) 14:49, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * A user at the German wiki complained about a corrupted layout when using the Browser-built-in function to view a website in desktop mode. Here are some screenshots: File 1 and File 2. Please fix this bug as soon as possible, since many prefer using the desktop version on their mobile phone. See here. | violine1101(Talk) 16:55, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Additionally, MediaWiki:Notification-header-profile-comment has a parameter $3 inside of it, but this parameter is not set by the comment extension (On the German wiki, I simply removed the link. Another user stated that this link with $3 inside would look like ). Also, at Special:Notifications, there is a double pipe-separator in the "description" of a profile comment notification. And it uses a wrong icon (heart, it should rather be a speech bubble or a talk icon or something like this).

New administrator
Could someone please add me to the list of Brazilian Portuguese administrators on the directors page. Thank you! --Mine4017 (talk)  pt-br Wiki Admin  19:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Orthotopetalk 02:31, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Also, shouldn't I be added to the Directors user group? Otherwise, I can't edit the Directors talk page, which is supposed to be edited by all administrators and bureaucrats of all wikis, isn't it? I see some people on that page that don't have this right. --Mine4017 (talk)  pt-br Wiki Admin  13:31, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, but only Curse staff (including Majr) can change user groups. -- Orthotopetalk 15:36, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

1.9-pre3
Could you please make a page for 1.9-pre3? 96.237.27.238 17:33, 24 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Version pages are created by normal everyday editors, not admins necessarily. But I'll put one up!  Thanks for bringing it up.  – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:54, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Issues... Once again, this time with nl:Sjabloon:Reflist
It's me again, this time with a very annoying issue. It looks like nl:Sjabloon:Reflist is partially working, and allows overflow with long links and long comments (and when using  or more with pretty long links). It works fine on this Wiki (English) because it breaks up the comment and link, but not on ours. I tried to deal with it via the CSS way (note: my own CSS before I break the site) and updating the source code from the template itself. Nothing worked and it still overflows. So my question is: Can someone help to fix this problem? -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 22:50, 4 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Because of the  set on   in nl:MediaWiki:Common.css. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 23:01, 4 March 2016 (UTC)


 * It worked when  was changed to  . Thank you! --  DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 10:01, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Bad edits to several articles. Anomie x (talk) 00:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Minecraft scratch edition
I'm making a version of Minecraft on scratch, which will be use new models. I'm adding things like drink, deer (therefore venison), frogs and numerous other things. I wondered if i could make an article about it? Robinhoodn64 (talk) 07:29, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


 * You can make an article about it if it is connected to your user page in some way. For example you can use User:Robunhoodn64/Minecraft: Scratch Edition, but it can't be an actual article as it is an unofficial port of the actual game itself. -BDJP (t 11:06, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


 * okay, will do!HELLO EVERYBODY!!! 07:01, 20 March 2016 (UTC) –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinhoodn64 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with

VisualEditor not conforming to Minecraft_Wiki:Style_guide#Linking
Hello all; maybe there's an easy answer to this, maybe there's not. I've noticed that editors who use VisualEditor will often end up creating links like  rather than. I wonder if there's any configurability, to allow it to create links that more conform to our Minecraft_Wiki:Style_guide guidelines? – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 02:15, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Nope, just parsoid being lazy. T50463 –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 02:27, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Aha, thanks. – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 12:36, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

New administrators on Polish Wiki
Hello. There are two new administrators on Polish Wiki NTBG and Piotrex43. Can someone update Directors page please? Thank you. :) Piotrex43 (talk) 19:23, 23 March 2016 (UTC)


 * . –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 06:11, 31 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Could you update the Directors group in general please? Many users who are in it aren't administrators anymore (for example LukiGamer, who does not own the sysop rights anymore since 2012) and many users who are administrators aren't in the Directors group (see ), including my humble self. Also, some users seem to be twice in said group. | violine1101(Talk) 08:01, 31 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I've added director to everyone listed on the directors page when I could find an account matching the name listed there, but there were several that don't seem to exist; it's probably high time to review the status of everyone listed there and update things as appropriate (and find out what's going on in the case of inactive admins/bureaucrats and demote them/promote replacements as needed). I also removed director from LukiGamer; if it's not too much trouble, could you list other users with director who are no longer admins/bureaucrats (you can find a full list of accounts with director [ here])? I can do this later myself if you can't, but I don't have time to do it now. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:53, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

LukiGamer was the only German user affected, hence I mentioned him. I have however a custom css which highlights all admins and bureaucrats. Following users in the directors group list aren't highlighted: Archomeda, DoranM, KunaiFire, LeGrund, Pochi33, Promaster6304, Ruansvrn324, STSc, Scaler6902 (= Scaler4?), Shahter100256 (= Shahter40?), Skyhi14, Szneqz, Tarne12081, Tomato5768, TunSha (= TunSha4?), Zelos666. Please note that my css is not too accurate (I used the names in MCW:Directors to create it) so this list could be partially false (because someone changed his name and the name on the Directors page has not been updated for example). | violine1101(Talk) 09:17, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you.


 * KunaiFire is probably KunaiFire7 and LeGrund is probably LeGrund6; I've left these and the users you've listed as possibly equal to current admins/bureaucrats alone, and removed director from the others. If there are still users who have director and shouldn't, or who don't and should, list them here or on my talk page and they'll be updated as needed (anyone who reads this should feel free to let the other language communities know this as well). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:51, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Pages for new minecraft scratch edition stuff???
Can i do pages for the new minecraft scratch edition??? HELLO EVERYBODY!!! –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinhoodn64 (talk • contribs) at 16:31, 24 March 2016 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * If it's not made by Mojang, we don't officially cover it. As long as the pages are within your userspace, it's generally acceptable. -- Orthotopetalk 17:47, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

HELP!!!
MY PICTURES DON'T WORK. ALSO, 1.9.1 IS OUT (i think) !!! HELLO EVERYBODY!!! –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinhoodn64 (talk • contribs) at 15:39, 27 March 2016 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * What pictures? You haven't uploaded any, and as far as I can tell, you haven't even tried to link to any. According to the launcher and Mojang's website, 1.9.1 has not yet been released. -- Orthotopetalk 17:14, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I've uploaded 2. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinhoodn64 (talk • contribs) at 09:28, March 28, 2016‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * Orthotope most likely checked your Contributions page (Special:Contributions/Robinhoodn64) and saw no entries about uploading a file.
 * Try it this way and see if it works:
 * go to a page with a File: prefix, like [[File:Robinhoodn64s_Great_New_Image.png]], and it will bring you to an 'Upload file' page because it's an image that's not on the wiki yet.
 * Use the browse button to upload your image from your PC,
 * Type a filename to be used on the wiki, add a summary of what's in the image, and select a license (probably the last entry if it's a screenshot of your own creation in Scratch, or one of the Minecraft license entries if it's a screenshot of Minecraft, or uses their textures), and then
 * hit the Upload button.
 * If there's any error message, please copy-paste it here.
 * On another note – your signature ought to have your username and a link to a profile page, like User:Robinhoodn64 (see Minecraft_Wiki:Talk_page_guidelines). This is so people know who it is that's talking, and what time you said it. "!!! HELLO EVERYBODY!!!" isn't your name : ) You can edit your signature in the first page of your preferences, and sign posts using  . – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 15:16, 28 March 2016 (UTC)


 * DONE! ROBINHOODN64 (talk) 15:50, 28 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Great! – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 16:00, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Newspaper idea!!!
So, I thought that maybe a weekly 'newspaper' could be on the wiki.The name will be 'The weekly ingot' and will have recent news, and also, LOTS of discussions, as well as wiki news. ROBINHOODN64 (talk) 16:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I doubt it is worth doing here. This wiki is way less big and less famous than Wikipedia (which has its on-wiki newspaper, the Signpost). — Agent NickTheRed37 (talk) 16:49, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay, but some real small wikis have em' user:NickTheRed37 ROBINHOODN64 (talk) 17:51, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * We already have some kind of news section – It's the Community portal. But, as NickTheRed37 said, it isn't worth the effort. | violine1101(Talk) 17:56, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, It's all fine. ROBINHOODN64 (talk) 19:39, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Spamming on several template pages and talk pages. | violine1101(Talk) 17:53, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * He did this here too!!! micrsoft phone line 854... –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinhoodn64 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with

1.9.1
NOW I'M SURE(BY DATES), 1.9.1 IS OUT. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinhoodn64 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with
 * No. Not yet. You can't select it in the Launcher. | violine1101(Talk) 09:24, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Robinhoodn64@undefined Please, only post things that need administrator attention on this board, such as banning accounts, protecting pages or edits to protected pages. General wiki maintenance can be done by anyone, thus for things such as possibly released updates, you can post it on the update article's talk page or on Talk:Planned versions. – KnightMiner  · (t) 14:17, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * user:KnightMiner, i cant put it on the main page that it IS out!!! ROBINHOODN64 (talk) 14:38, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Robinhoodn64@undefined That's because the main page is protected against vandalism and unnecessary edits by other people other than administrator or higher. Besides this, the version data will be updated, but only when an admin feels like he/she wants to update the version data. -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 14:51, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Thought that user would be nice, but now said user is spamming. -BDJP (t 15:21, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I got hacked.I didn't do it.Sorry. BDJP ROBINHOODN64 (talk) 15:24, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


 * It doesn't matter if your dog hacked your computer and spammed or some crap, your account is your responsibility either way. You're also generally being a nuisance, which will end up getting you blocked. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 06:08, 31 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Dosn't matter, i'm Leaving. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.173.217.220 (talk) at 06:59, 2 April 2016 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * GIMME INFIBLOCK! ROBINHOODN64 (talk) 08:23, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Back at it again with vandalizing user pages of mine and, as well as harassing Sealbudsman on his talk. -BDJP (t 16:31, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hijacked account again? — <b style="font-variant: small-caps; letter-spacing: 1px">NickTheRed37</b> (issues’ wall)</i> 15:23, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Some of the license template are not protected (and one more)
Template:License cc-by-nc-sa and Template:License simple geometry are not protected and link in the Template:License cc-by-nd is wrong. Change 'by-na' to 'by-nd' —Alswo9628(4) — ko.Admin (talk) 15:23, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism and bad page moves. Anomie x (talk) 13:30, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

About me advertisers
If you look at the recent changes, there are users which are joining and then posting spam in their about me sections. MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 09:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

I can't comment on user pages???
I have some restrictions on stuff like comments.Why??? ROBINHOODN64 (talk) 07:52, 9 April 2016 (UTC)


 * This has been happening to me recently as well. I used to be able to (but didn't bother to), but now it's just replaced by a huge red box. Did I do a evil? - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 15:10, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Because of profile spam accounts, it was recently changed so that you need to meet a minimum threshold before you can post comments on profiles. Unfortunately, though, it seems that some editors who meet that threshold are still restricted from posting comments; in this case, you should get in contact with Curse staff. Unless he tells you to do otherwise, ask Majr for help with this. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:57, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Commenting requires a confirmed email address. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 03:54, 13 April 2016 (UTC)


 * OK. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinhoodn64 (talk • contribs) at 06:12, 13 April 2016 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * Seems to be working for me now. Is this requirement a new thing because of the spammers? MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 13:08, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Profile description indicates a spam bot. -Xbony2 <abbr title="Master of Feed The Beast Wiki">(MOFTBW) 19:28, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

There was a [[Media:1.6DevLauncher Development Console.png]] without a reson, so I removed it. He/she revert my edit, then reverted this edit and this user put the move template back. The BlobsPaper.png 03:36, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

23m
We have hit 23 million sales. This statistic should be updated on the front page, which still says 22 million was our last milestone. <b style="color:aqua">DigiDuncan!</b> (talk) 15:53, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * This page is for reporting things. Post discussions on:
 * This page's talk page
 * An administrator's talk page
 * The main page's talk page
 * You can also [ use the editcopy] The BlobsPaper.png 01:58, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, this does belong here, since updating the main page is the admins' task. Just [ compare the editcopy and the main page]. They're out of sync because the admins haven't updated it since about 25 days (!), so this is an admin issue. | violine1101(Talk) 09:37, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Shameless (self-)promotion of a 'SEO-site'. -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 12:33, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

IP-hopping vandalism on Ender Dragon
Lots of IPs making random deletions or insertions. Anomie x (talk) 12:47, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Please be more specific; Are you asking for the page to be semi-protected, or do you want something else? The BlobsPaper.png 02:55, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Majr figured it out a week ago without your help. I've seen you do this sort of thing several times now, Blobs2, and I think it would be best if you stop trying to tell everyone how to communicate "right". Anomie x (talk) 10:11, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Observer block
On the 'Pocket edition alpha 0.15.0' page, people keep going on about observer blocks, although I'm pretty sure it won't be in 0.15.0.Someone even put a texture which is most likely fake. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Robinhoodn64 (talk • contribs) at 6:00, 10 May 2016 (UTC). Please sign your posts with

Interwiki table request
Since Gamepedia PRO was introduced, Wikis are now able to use HTTPS instead of HTTP. But there's one issue: When clicking on an interwiki, it gives you the plain old HTTP-connection instead of the user-related HTTPS. My question: Can someone please remove in the interwiki table the http:-prefix for the other Minecraft Wiki-Wikis? (I've done it already for the Dutch Wiki) -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 14:28, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Related suggestion: Wikipedia also uses HTTPS, so the corresponding interwiki can be changed accordingly. — <b style="font-variant: small-caps; letter-spacing: 1px">NickTheRed37</b> (issues’ wall)</i> 14:57, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Yep, there still are some resources (especially in CSS files) which are loaded using http links. For example, File:Background.png is loaded using an http link in MediaWiki:Common.css. | violine1101(Talk) 17:46, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * There are some unsafe connections left which can only be changed by Curse. Apart from these, the German Minecraft wiki is mostly HTTPS now by changing  to   in both MediaWiki:Common.css as well as MediaWiki:Hydra.css and Widget:FileUrl. | violine1101(Talk) 18:13, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Ummm... Violine1101@undefined Not all the user are a PRO. Only users who are a PRO user can use an HTTPS connection. Users who aren't PRO still use HTTP. The best option is to let the browser decide by using, as example,  instead of   and/or  . --  DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 19:00, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

I just realized I put that into the false topic, but hey, it's about PRO too. | violine1101(Talk) 20:28, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Also non-PRO users can use the media server with HTTPS, so this should not be a problem at all.


 * Done; language interwikis now use protocol-relative URLs. Looking at the interwiki table, I'm wondering if a lot of them could be removed, as they don't seem to have any relevance or use here. -- Orthotopetalk 19:32, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Fix ftb: and gphelp:, please ^_^ A lot of the URLs are just there per default, so some of them are kind of useless. They aren't really taking any space though. -Xbony2 (talk) 12:50, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

two "drops" sections
There are 2 "drops" sections on the stray page. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Waspwing (talk • contribs) at 12:09, 19 May 2016 (UTC). Please sign your posts with
 * Fixed. Not an admin, just an editor. There were no editing restrictions on the page. --AttemptToCallNil, previously known as GreenStone (report bug, view backtrace) 12:18, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Localization issues?
Often, on the order of every 15 to 25 pages, I am seeing the page fail with a backtrace, like the following: [2c675cd5] /index.php?title=Fishing_Rod&curid=2756&diff=979355&oldid=979236 MWException from line 468 of /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/cache /LocalisationCache.php: No localisation cache found for English. Please run maintenance/rebuildLocalisationCache.php. Backtrace:
 * 1) 0 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/cache/LocalisationCache.php(369): LocalisationCache->initLanguage(string)
 * 2) 1 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/cache/LocalisationCache.php(284): LocalisationCache->loadSubitem(string, string, string)
 * 3) 2 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/languages/Language.php(2658): LocalisationCache->getSubitem(string, string, string)
 * 4) 3 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/cache/MessageCache.php(839): Language->getMessage(string)
 * 5) 4 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/cache/MessageCache.php(766): MessageCache->getMessageFromFallbackChain(Language, string, string, boolean)
 * 6) 5 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/Message.php(1146): MessageCache->get(string, boolean, Language)
 * 7) 6 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/Message.php(932): Message->fetchMessage
 * 8) 7 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/extensions/CirrusSearch/includes/Hooks.php(191): Message->isDisabled
 * 9) 8 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/extensions/CirrusSearch/includes/Hooks.php(98): CirrusSearch\Hooks::overrideMoreLikeThisOptionsFromMessage
 * 10) 9 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/extensions/CirrusSearch/includes/Hooks.php(58): CirrusSearch\Hooks::initializeForRequest(WebRequest)
 * 11) 10 [internal function]: CirrusSearch\Hooks::onBeforeInitialize(Title, NULL, OutputPage, User, WebRequest, MediaWiki)
 * 12) 11 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/Hooks.php(201): call_user_func_array(string, array)
 * 13) 12 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/MediaWiki.php(181): Hooks::run(string, array)
 * 14) 13 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/MediaWiki.php(714): MediaWiki->performRequest
 * 15) 14 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/includes/MediaWiki.php(508): MediaWiki->main
 * 16) 15 /home/hydra/beta_public_html/index.php(41): MediaWiki->run
 * 17) 16 {main}

.. or pieces of the page will render like this:

16w20a<sup id="<cite_reference_link_prefix><cite_reference_link_key_with_num><cite_reference_link_suffix>" class="reference" style="white-space:nowrap">[1] is the first snapshot released for 1.10.

.. or the "More", "Share" and "Special" tabs will show as: <vector-more-actions>, and <nstab-special>

Is anyone else experiencing this? – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 15:55, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I am experiencing this too. Is your edit summary intentionally specified as " "? --AttemptToCallNil, previously known as GreenStone (report bug, view backtrace) 17:10, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * How ironic.. it wasn't intentional, because we don't have the option of entering a summary when we hit "Add Topic".  It must have tried to pull the standard string, which would have been, I think, "Localization issues? new section", and failed. –  Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:27, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I got the placeholder text a few times last night, though it seems better recently. -- Orthotopetalk 21:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * This appears to be specific to this wiki only; I didn’t caught this error on the Russian section. — <b style="font-variant: small-caps; letter-spacing: 1px">NickTheRed37</b> (issues’ wall)</i> 17:25, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Spam; mostly edits talk pages as if we are Mojang (and he/she received a talk page message about this). The BlobsPaper.png 03:13, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Only a few edits, and none in the last three days; I don't see a need for any administrator action at this point. -- Orthotopetalk 05:16, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * It appears that has already blocked the IP address. The BlobsPaper.png 02:35, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Spam The BlobsPaper.png 03:01, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

(Self-)Promotion of a site and (probably) personal information in their 'About me'-section. -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 17:44, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Uploading a crapton of files with really spammy descriptions (and, to top it off, making Recent Changes almost unreadable). - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 21:03, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppet of Kabart211 to escape edit block, both uploaded similar types of spam. -75.179.18.235 15:47, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * He was blocked by Ortho. --MarioProtIV (talk) 19:03, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Template:ID table outputs wrong names
It seems ID table just does a simple transformation on the item names, so it gives  for "Wood Planks" and   for "Magma Block", for example, but those are not the correct names, they are   and , respectively. The template needs to be changed to show the proper names instead of making such an assumption on the format of the names. nyuszika7h (talk) 16:05, 27 June 2016 (UTC)


 * There's a  parameter which does that:


 * – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 16:11, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see, the planks show up correctly on Data values/Block IDs, it's just the magma block that needs a fix, now I know how to fix it. I didn't notice that when editing the page. nyuszika7h (talk) 16:13, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Don't need to say anything; just look at the username.. Block that user for indef --MarioProtIV (talk) 18:57, 27 June 2016 (UTC)


 * As it was previously said, by putting a request to block a user with unacceptable (e. g. offensive) username here, it is made more visible, which is not good. There is another user with a similar unacceptable name (with a repeated vowel), but I don’t want to fully tell it because of that reason (administrators can just look up the user registration log anyway). An IRC-or-otherwise channel for non-public administrative issues would be great for this, but either way anyone can contact an administrator by e-mail.
 * That particular user is already blocked by Orthotope. Why do administrators not reply to topics about issues which were resolved? This makes it look at first glance like these issues aren’t still solved. — <b style="font-variant: small-caps; letter-spacing: 1px">NickTheRed37</b> (issues’ wall)</i> 13:07, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

See about me section. -Xbony2 (talk) 12:15, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Users with unacceptable username
This User:Motherfucker15 is an unacceptable username | AndrewAB (talk) 16:01, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't agree with you. MinecraftAdministrator101 (talk) 17:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Do you, MinecraftAdministrator101, agree or do not, it is not our matter in the end. Also, the same issue applies to the username of yourself: it appears to be misleading. Going further, I can suspect that your account is a sockpuppet of the user mentioned in the first place. — <b style="font-variant: small-caps; letter-spacing: 1px">NickTheRed37</b> (issues’ wall)</i> 17:36, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Rumors of 0.16.0
I heard from here that the features listed are going to be in 0.16.0. I myself kinda doubt it, so can someone confirm? (I'd post this on 0.16.0's talk page, but it won't let me)-75.179.18.235 22:49, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * This would be better to have put this on the Community portal. But anyway, this is a hoax, 99% sure. One of those pictures is of the Desktop version, one is just an Igloo someone made, one looks like a youtube thumbnail, and the last one is also a screenshot from the Desktop version. Don't add anything! :P -Xbony2 (talk) 23:51, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The Igloo is indeed an old build someone else made, per reddit. -Xbony2 (talk) 23:53, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * And the command block image was posted nearly four years ago. If it's not coming from a Mojang employee, it's probably fake. -- Orthotopetalk 00:01, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Likely sockpuppet of based on misinformation to Human, Giant and Removed features. --MarioProtIV (talk) 21:53, 8 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Quick note regarding such, is there any way for admins to perform an IP check on users? -BDJP (t 21:56, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, its Special:CheckUser. --MarioProtIV (talk) 21:58, 8 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Only Curse staff have access to it; regular admins such as Goandgoo and myself do not. (Technically there are some admins with the checkuser right, but they haven't been active here for years.) Blocks applied and extended. -- Orthotopetalk 23:57, 8 July 2016 (UTC)