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Parrot
Hello. I am a Japanese-language user Beans1512. I appreciate it.

Currently we are discussing whether to keep the "Parrot" page at community portal or not, so we will ask you to delete this page until the conclusion is announced.-- 04:06, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Regional punctuation names
FYI, this wiki generally uses American names. I notice you using "full stop" for periods. The BlobsPaper.png 13:53, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Signature
Please follow the talk page guidelines and remove the templates from the signature. Especially the one adding a display title which affects the whole page. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 06:48, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Oops, sorry. I have fixed it now. — Nixinova •  • 04:07, 16 May 2017 (UTC)


 * There are still templates. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 12:01, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok removed :/ — Nixinova (talk • edits • pages) 04:32, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

About 12marc40awesome
Hi Nixinova!

Yesterday, I edited the "12marc40awesome" you created. At that time I compiled the contents of that edit into "Summary", but I could not tell it to the end due to the limit of the number of characters. So I will tell you I could not tell yesterday.

The part which was not reported yesterday: I made the Japanese version of "12marc40awesome" the other day on the here. I would like you to add the Japanese version page (made by me) to the other language link on this page. You can use my talk page for replying.-- Beans1512 Talk/Contribs 08:08, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

1.8-pre
It seems to me that no-one should be linking to that page, and no-one would be searching for it. Why make it a disambiguation page? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 11:45, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I have made it for all pre-release pages, as it is easier when searching for pre-release pages to have a list then searching through a ton of unsorted pages (see here) – Nixinova • Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png • 04:05, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Achievement images
The achievement images are all available on commons, you don't need to re-upload them here. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 00:27, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks for letting me know. You can delete the images if you want and I will change them – Nixinova • Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png • 03:45, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

About the HTML note about adding topics above
If a person uses the "add topic" button (next to "edit source"), they do not see your HTML note about where exactly to add the topic, and the wiki will automatically place the topic below your nav box. Just in case you were wondering whether people were ignoring your note. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 01:42, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Lol that's quite ironic, and yes I do know about that – Nixinova • Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png • 03:44, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think I fixed that; messages below the nav should get added above it. – Nixinova • Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png • 03:49, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

1.12-release
Sorry to be late at night (in New Zealand time).

First, I have something to report to you:
 * 1) I reverted some edits of my and you edits (a talk about the name) at "Talk:1.12". The reason is that talk is a talk about the possibilities and it was lacking in importance.

Next, I have something I want to talk to you (You can reply to my talk page.
 * 1) I like the name "1.12-release". With curiosity, I have one thing I want to ask you: Can you tell me the meaning of "release" in "1.12-release"? Sorry.
 * 2) There are many positive opinions about creating "1.12-release", but can I (or you) create "1.12-release"?

Finally, I am sorry in the long sentence. Good night :)--Beans1512 (talk) 11:10, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Age in days
I notice the month and day are mismatched, in your age in days where it says how long you've been editing – Sealbudsman talk/contr 02:06, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks – Nixinova • Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png • 03:09, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

About File name cleanup
I saw you participated in the file name cleanup, but it says to not leave a redirect. But you left a redirect onto the moved files. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 09:00, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't see that. Some of the images are used on archived issues pages, that I cannot edit, so I have to leave a redirect. What do I do then? – Nixinova • Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png • 19:27, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Umm, I don't know? The archived pages are surely protected, since the file names were against the rule. I think you should ask an admin to change the file name. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 11:33, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't see why the admins should go through all that work just to fix a couple of redirects. They aren't going to be used for anything, so why not leave a redirect? – Nixinova • Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png • 04:06, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think because the wiki itself has the filter to block a file with 20YY-MM-DD name, but it also not very important anyway. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 08:00, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

More about the filename project
I notice you removed the suggestion to ignore pages that are only used on translation pages.

Can you explain why you did this? The BlobsPaper.png 22:09, 18 June 2017 (UTC)


 * There is no reason not to update the files on translation pages; if you don't then the gallery gets messed up and shows "File:YYYY-MM-DD-etc". Its not much extra effort, and it doesn't make a headache for the translators trying to fix all the images when you could've just done it. – Nixinova • Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png • 04:04, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Warning
I'm sorry, please do not translate in the Japanese version. But, if you want to do everything, you can creating a sandbox in the Japanese version, translation there, asking me to fix it.--Beans1512 (talk) 23:50, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, I will do them in my user page. See them here – Nixinova • Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png • 08:15, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, thank you! However, rather than creating the latest version of the page, it may be better to create a snapshots or pre-releases that is not created.--Beans1512 (talk) 08:32, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Please give me advice
Nixinova, is there good idea on how to write Official name in "Console Edition versions"? There is a possibility that it looks bad as it is.--Beans1512 (talk) 10:01, 1 July 2017 (UTC) Beans1512 (talk) 10:01, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * See also Talk:Console Edition version history. | violine1101(Talk) 11:54, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry. This topic is about a template I created experimentally. But I will vote for your opinion.--Beans1512 (talk) 12:00, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh okay, I thought you were talking about User:Beans1512/Xbox 360 Edition TU1 (Test). | violine1101(Talk) 12:09, 1 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, the project says that theyre going to be "Legacy Console Edition", and that the PS Editions not getting cross-play will be "PlayStation Editions" – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 19:53, 1 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm Sorry. "Console Edition versions" means User:Beans1512/Console Edition versions. Really sorry :( --Beans1512 (talk) 08:36, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Why I'm bothering to do it by hand
One thing about doing it by hand is that you can install categories where they belong. Because there are many places where they are missing. I'm not saying a bot wouldn't be helpful. But I'm really interested in filling out the Category:Java Edition specific information category with stuff that's been marked informally but never categorized. I'm looking at phrases: computer edition, computer version, pc edition, pc version, pc/Mac – Sealbudsman talk/contr 03:24, 8 July 2017 (UTC)


 * In this instance, a bot could be used to categorise all pages that contain those phrases, so you only need to look at the pages in the category. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 04:03, 8 July 2017 (UTC)


 * What would be the advantage over just using the search? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 04:45, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Template:Only
Your edits to Template:Only were causing a problem when multiple edition arguments are present. For example, generated , with an extra "only" in there. I updated the template to revert the part that did that, but I wasn't quite sure what your intent was so you may want to review it. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 16:54, 4 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I was trying to remove the only from the link ➜  and add only to the end of  ➜  but I don't think it quite worked... – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 19:23, 4 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, okay. I fixed it for you. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 19:43, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Edits to Better Together Update
Thank you for catching my faulty interwiki prefix; I really intended to double check it, but forgot. I wish you wouldn't make changes just because you like your style better, though. I'm as proud of my contributions as you are, and when you change something I wrote that's relevant, stylistically poised, and without factual or grammatical error it feels disrespectful--especially when you do it 4 minutes after I wrote it! Maybe I shouldn't take it so personally, but then maybe you shouldn't be to quick to "correct" something that isn't a problem. That's not what Be Bold is about.--– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 05:46, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * ... what? The official name of the version is "Java Edition" and I don't get what you are going on about. I also wish that you weren't so quick to correct others on minuscule edits. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 06:08, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I spent an hour and a half writing and revising a response, trying to make it relatable and clear and concise. Then I deleted it and wrote this. Why? Because that's what I do. Writing for the wiki, and writing in general, is something I pour a lot of my time, my mind, and my soul into. I don't stop until I'm proud of what I've written. So when somebody comes along and spends 30 seconds "improving" it, when there was nothing wrong with it to begin with, it insults me. It deprives me. The work is not mine any more, it's theirs. It was me on a page; now I'm erased. My thoughts, my efforts, my heart were not worth preserving. I am a shadow, and I will not be missed.
 * I'll say no more. If you don't get me now, perhaps you will when you're older.--– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 08:13, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * With the release of the Better Together Update, the original PC version written in Java, which is officially named Minecraft but commonly referred as "the Java edition", will be renamed to Minecraft: Java Edition to distinguish it from the cross-platform version.
 * With the release of the Better Together Update, the original computer version written in Java, which is officially named Minecraft, will be renamed to Minecraft: Java Edition to distinguish it from the cross-platform version.
 * 1. I changed "PC" to "computer". Nothing wrong there; computer is the better term because Minecraft is also on Mac and Linux
 * 2. I removed  because the official name is the "Java Edition".
 * I do not understand what the problem is here. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 19:18, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Since you seem to be trying to understand, I'll respond, and thank you for being willing. I've just returned from being treated to a birthday dinner, so I'm in a good mood and will try not to be so sour.
 * You insist on framing our conflict in terms of matters of fact. Facts aren't at the heart of the matter for me, but in deference to you I'll address them first.
 * 1. "PC" does not mean "Windows computer", it means "personal computer", and it includes Mac and Linux desktops. You may disagree because the more restrictive usage is becoming more common over time, and maybe it will become the dominant meaning when your generation enters adulthood, but for the present the broader meaning is the one recognized by most lexicographers. There's a second response to this as well: "The PC edition" is a term of art on this wiki. A term of art's meaning isn't obtained from its component words, it's established by agreement of the community that uses it. This implies that you can't analyze the worlds separately, you have to treat it as a phrase with its own meaning. What confuses the issue is that the wiki originally used "the computer edition" as its term of art, and there are still some examples of it that never got changed. The current consensus, however, is that we use "the PC edition" to refer to the Java version. That's about to change very soon, but it hasn't yet, so it was the right one for me to use.
 * 2. No, "Java Edition" is not the official name, not until the BTU is released, but that has nothing to do with it that I can see. Are you struggling to keep track of where articles and edits belong on the time line? I don't mean that disdainfully, it's just that you're a member of the Renaming project so I know you know the name change is tied to the update's official release. I've also noticed you "jumping the gun" to update some things prematurely, so I'm wondering if maybe managing abstract time frames is a skill that the brain develops later in the teens; it would explain some things. Anyway, maybe it will help if I tell you I included that phrase for a specific purpose. It shows that Microsoft chose to rename it as Minecraft: Java Edition as opposed to, say, Minecraft: PC Edition or Minecraft: Classic Edition because they're embracing the user community's own term of art (as will we, once the update is released). In other words, they're trying to be sensitive to the community and not make corporate decisions in a vacuum. That's an informative and reassuring fact for people who have been worried their version of Minecraft is on the way out. Deleting it was not an improvement.
 * Now to the point I've really been trying to get across to you. It's okay to correct an error of fact or grammar or a fatally awkward phrase--the Wikipedia advice to Be Bold encourages it, and it doesn't usually offend anyone because nobody wants to look ignorant. But when there's no technical flaw in a brand new post, it's best to leave it alone, at least for a while. People sometimes put a lot of hard work into their contributions, and if somebody else changes it after a cursory review it's like a slap in the face. It's like they spent hours building a sand castle only to have somebody carelessly ride their bike through the middle 2 minutes later and justify it by saying "What are you on about? It was just piles of sand!". No, it wasn't, not to them. To them it was a work of art, the very best they had to give, and somebody just called it dirt.
 * We have no way of knowing how much effort somebody puts into an edit. We can't judge how invested they are in it. We're not supposed to engage our egos in wiki editing, but that's just an ideal: Not everybody can let go the instant they press Save. But we can make room for our differences. It doesn't hurt the rest of us to cut them some slack for a day or two so they can enjoy feeling like their efforts are valued and appreciated. Or, if there is some flaw that must be fixed, we can make the smallest possible edit that fixes it without obliterating the OP's thumbprint. Anything more than that is disrespectful of their dignity and a snubbing of their gift to the wiki. It's just a common courtesy we owe each other as members of a community. Do you see what I'm saying?
 * One more thing and I'll stop. Although I do get annoyed when I see you make edits I don't see a need for, I'm not your enemy. I don't think you mean to be disrespectful, I just think you need time to develop your social skills. But there are things about you that impress me and that I admire, too, such as your sophisticated prose writing skills and your dedication to the wiki. You might notice that I don't limit my vocabulary with you either, because I think yours is advanced enough to follow me. (If I'm wrong and I'm talking over your head, I'm sorry; I can be plainer if you like.) Even when I'm vexed, I know we're lucky to have you here. I want you to know that, and I'd like us to be on good terms. Maybe we could even play online together sometime, after the update. I'll bet you'd like to test me in PvP. (You'd win of course, but that wouldn't bother me.)
 * If you've read all the way through this, thank you; I hope it felt like the honest communication I intended it to be, and not a chore. Regards for now.--– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 05:01, 6 August 2017 (UTC)