Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard/Archive 23

Directors

 * Moved from User talk:Majr by NickTheRed37 at 13:38, 1 March 2015 (UTC).

This is the topic to inform of changing the MCW:Directors page and adding/removing director rights. Please don’t take this as a duplicate of Former admins and MCW:Directors above, because this topic allows to inform of that in a much more organized manner.

—  Agent Nick the Red37 (talk &middot; contribs) f.k.a. Naista2002 18:18, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Director rights

 * HU: hu:User:Martin200005 is now an admin, as said above by JEC6789. —  Agent Nick the Red37 (talk &middot; contribs) f.k.a. Naista2002 13:38, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * FR: ObelusPA2 is strangely not in the directors group. user talk:Majr. —  NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 16:34, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * DE: CalebBlackhand. – LauraFi -  talk  17:26, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * PL: Matik7 —  Grid Command Block.png NickTheRed37 (talk&#124;contributions) 13:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Minecraft Wiki:Directors

 * KO: Alswo9628 should be fixed to Alswo96284. —  Agent Nick the Red37 (talk &middot; contribs) f.k.a. Naista2002 18:18, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * RU: Remove Teksel, since he does not intend to return to the project. —  Agent Nick the Red37 (talk &middot; contribs) f.k.a. Naista2002 18:18, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Global: Remove citricsquid and Quatroking, since both are inactive. —  Agent Nick the Red37 (talk &middot; contribs) f.k.a. Naista2002 18:18, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The directors page doesn't display activity. If they still have admin rights, then they should still be on the directors page. Also, this belongs on the admin noticeboard. –Majr 08:31, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Moved. —  Agent Nick the Red37 (talk &middot; contribs) f.k.a. Naista2002 13:38, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * PL: Matik7 — Grid Command Block.png NickTheRed37 (talk&#124;contributions) 13:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Minecraft Forums interwiki
Since the Minecraft forums changed their design, their links also changed, and while old style links are still compatible, it is impossible to locate the old style links from the new forum design. As such, two of the old Minecraft Forum interwikis (mcf and mcftopic) are obsolete. The news links appear unchanged.

The new url consists of first  (note the addition of the "s"), then base on the type it contains the following:
 * Sub-forums use a specific combination of letters and dashes
 * Topics use any combination of letters and dashes followed by a slash, then the topic ID

A solution would be changing  to   and   to http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/topic/$1, though this would break previous links. The only other solution would be adding one or two new interwiki links.

– KnightMiner  · (t) 01:00, 3 March 2015 (UTC)


 * So, are the minecraft forum interwikis going to be updated, or can new interwikis be added with the new forum urls? (to prevent from breaking old interwiki links) – KnightMiner  · (t) 01:36, 20 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't see a satisfactory solution. Having to make mcf2: and mcf2topic: links would suck, and since edit summaries can't be edited, we can't ever change the existing links without breakage. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 12:42, 20 April 2015 (UTC)


 * One option would be calling the new interwikis "forum" and "forumtopic", and considering the MCF interwiki links deprecated. Since this is the Minecraft Wiki makes the Minecraft part somewhat implied, and they are essentially the forums of this wiki (as opposed to the gamepedia forums, which could be listed as "gpforum" if needed later, similar to the difference between "help" and "gphelp".) – KnightMiner  · (t) 15:54, 20 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Alright. It's a bit longer than I'd like, but it's better than breaking all the edit summaries. I'm wondering if there is a need for . It would only save one character over doing  . –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 04:48, 25 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Actually, probably not. Really the only reason to use it would be because we had a forum topic interwiki before, but sunce the urls are the same and the length is just one character, I would be fine just having the  one. – KnightMiner  · (t) 15:09, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Constantly moving Planned versions to Upcoming versions without starting a consensus. BDJP007301 (t 15:07, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've move-protected the page. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Archive 22
Please add the link to the 22nd archive. Thanks! RazrRekr201 Msg me  Edits  14:37, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Commands
If you look into the past two months of history, you see a lot of reverted unconstructive edits. There was even one with the word "stuipid" in it, and another replacing the first word with "lols". It must be protected. 108.210.219.207 21:56, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * It's fine. Minor vandalism can be a way to learn how to edit a wiki when there isn't anything obvious that needs doing. And responding to it keeps the rest of us engaged and invested. :) &mdash;munin &middot; Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Stone_Pickaxe.png &middot; 22:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism. – JEC6789   – 01:39, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Account Name Change
My wiki account name was recently changed from User:Legoless to User:McLego. I wasn't given any notification about this and I'd prefer if it could be changed back. Thanks! --McLego (talk) 22:45, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * That was likely due to the migration to gamepedia, quite a few usernames changed then if the user had not logged in since then.
 * I would advise you to contact, since usernames are now handled by Curse. – KnightMiner  · (t) 14:56, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I sent a message. --McLego (talk) 15:51, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello there. Unfortunately, that username is taken by another Curse user somewhere. I'm guessing that this issue is leftover from the migration. Let me know if there are any other similar username's you'd like me to check for availability (e.g. LegoLesss, LegoLess1, etc). CrsBenjamin - (talk) [[File:User_Wynthyst_sig_icon.png]] 14:44, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Alternately, if you think the account named "LegoLess" does belong to you, get in touch with me [mailto:community@gamepedia.com via e-mail] and if you can verify the e-mail address on that account, we can see about merging them or renaming as the situation requires. CrsBenjamin - (talk) [[File:User_Wynthyst_sig_icon.png]] 16:19, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Emailed you. --McLego (talk) 15:35, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

want blocked
Hello, I want a like, indefinite block with a random reason. MinecraftWikiLover (talk) 09:39, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * We only block for abusive actions, while you weren't abusing much and you shouldn't. — NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 09:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Site notice about new guidelines
Recently, the talk page guidelines were added and some major changes were made to the wiki rules and the style guide. Can we add a site notice alerting users to the changes for a bit, since otherwise the changes may go unnoticed to those who do not watch the community portal (especially in the case of the talk page guidelines, which mostly are new or previously unstated rules on a new article). It may be relevant to link the discussions involved, which are mainly MCT:Community portal and MCT:Community portal – KnightMiner  · (t) 02:41, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * . –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 10:06, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Triggering abuse filter randomly
A couple recent edits by me have triggered an abuse filter rule called "Global AF - New spam filter", is this from here or the curse team? In either case, there was no spam, it seems to trigger on edits related to adding t – KnightMiner  · (t) 20:04, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Or its related to  or   tags. – KnightMiner  · (t) 20:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That is our global spam filter. It should only warn you and not actually prevent you from doing anything. — Game widow (talk) 20:24, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it is only warning me and I can still save the edit, but its a bit of an annoyance since I'm not spamming. – KnightMiner  · (t) 20:32, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Our expert will have a look at it and try to find a way to avoid those false positives. If you can pinpoint some text that definitely gets caught, that would help. — Game widow (talk) 20:45, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't say for certain without being able to see the global filters, but I'm guessing the problem is a  clause; they're very prone to overmatching and false positives, since they ignore punctuation and whitespace and don't try to match word boundaries. For example, one of our filters used to contain the rule , which was triggered by the wikitext "/* Trivia */ grammar fixes".   tends to be safer in most cases.
 * The text "unless the" triggers the global filter for some reason, if that helps. -- Orthotopetalk 23:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Its definitely the tags. I've been getting these as well for a past few edits of mine with those included. None of my edits had the text "unless the" included. BDJP (t 00:31, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks :) every little bit helps — Game widow (talk) 01:08, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The text "User:Falkirksnh" seems to match the filter sometimes, which would likely be inconvenient for that user – KnightMiner  · (t) 03:28, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I had a problem with this too ([ trying to add an ambox to my user page on Russian wiki] triggered the filter). — NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 06:06, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The new deploy for the AbuseFilter that's hitting this should be out soon. I am majorly sorry for the issues that it's caused, and will keep an eye on this wiki's abuse log to make sure it doesn't hit any more valid edits. 14:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, just to clear it up for future issues. It's not caused by tags, or uses any norm/ccnorm, or the likes. It is simply a BIG regex system for matching the majority of the spam articles. This is why it sometimes matches the text used by normal people. It is constantly being reviewed and re-tested. :) 14:54, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I just had this problem on the German wiki too when editing my user talk page there. (Difference) | violine1101(Talk) 19:43, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've kicked this up a level for troubleshooting. Hopefully we can pin down what is not working quickly — Game widow (talk) 19:46, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Constantly adding trees created by the user or another user to the Tree article. BDJP (t 14:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Once they shall add that again, they will violate the last warning (by me), and then admins should block them. —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 14:44, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Fullurl and automatic plain links
Currently, the parser "full url" starts links with  instead of , causing it not to get detected by the automatic plain link styling from MediaWiki:Common.css. Can the css be changed to also define  as plain? – KnightMiner  · (t) 03:38, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This has been added, great suggestion! 00:44, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


 * To answer your query about the signature, it seems interwiki transcusion is now transcluding nothing, and the signature field now automatically adds "SUBST:" to templates, combine the two and you get blank text where the sig belongs (might be a good idea to use a standard sig, as both interwiki transclusion and transclusion in signatures are now being advised against in the software, rather than just by userbase. The former might be fixed by setting a variable in the PHP though). – KnightMiner  · (t) 01:45, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, my signature is a NOSUBST setup, so it literally puts the inter-wiki link :? Ehh I'll look into it eventually.  11:49, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Advertisement on their user page. — NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 07:45, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Majr! — NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 07:50, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Exemption of a few rules for Runecraft Mod
Hi, I would like to request the exemption for the rules about having server IP addresses on pages and the one about videos for all the pages of Mods/Runecraft. I request the videos because they have tutorial information on the mod's runes.

That page has already a few IP adresses and also alot of videos if this request is denied I will remove those links.

--Amuxix (talk) 05:59, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * You already have permission to add videos as you feel are needed for mod articles, see Minecraft Wiki:Wiki rules/Video policy (linked from rule #8).
 * As for the IPs, while I cannot give you permission, I can advise the administrators that I think the usage on the article seems like a decent usage of server IPs, as this is a server side mod. – KnightMiner  · (t) 14:30, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I will leave the server IPs if any admin wants them removed I can do so. --Amuxix (talk) 16:11, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Website titles
They should be changed to use typographical dashes (– instead of -). —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 14:32, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Why? Using a different character breaks URLs - try https://minecraft–ru.gamepedia.com . -- Orthotopetalk 18:00, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * No, I meant the page title that gets inserted into  tags in HTML code. —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 18:04, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * MediaWiki:Pagetitle and MediaWiki:Pagetitle-view-mainpage —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 18:07, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * . –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 03:37, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Deletion request
Please, could someone delete this?

Thank you! Wizdeck~  Spanish Wiki Admin  (talk) 18:02, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Orthotopetalk 18:10, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Uploading images of a “natural” pyramid trap. —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 14:41, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Invoking personal rules on user talk pages. Some notable examples include:

BDJP (t 19:32, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Believeing that deleting a talk page message is equal to edit-warring on an article
 * That edit also made a personal attack on my condition (Autism a.k.a Asperger's syndrome) which is a violation of Rule #3.
 * Believeing that certain things people post in their own user talk pages is considered spam
 * Believeing that certain things people post in their own user talk pages should belong on a forum
 * Believeing that deleting talk page comments is against the rules


 * . – LauraFi -  talk  20:05, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * MCT:Community portal — NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 05:16, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * KnighMiner’s user page rules aren't official, so, you can't say that that is not against the official rules, that do not exist. dand0 (talk) 06:29, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Most of the rules stated there are already in place, though not stated anywhere (from past discussions asking "Is this allowed?", though you may correct me if I'm wrong about any of the specific rules), the whole point of the discussion is to state those rules somewhere, and allow a spot for new rules. In any case though, the specific page is not an official guideline at this time, and users wishing to make them official, suggest new rules, changes to previous rules on the guide should discuss it over there.
 * Also, it is likely that NickTheRed was simply pointing out a relevant discussion to add the rules, rather than stating those rules should be followed. – KnightMiner  · (t) 18:56, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * LauraFi's example is from half a year ago and I believe Naista2002/NickTheRed37 has stopped the behavior discussed there (no?). I don't think the rules actually state that posting misinterpretations of the rules is against the rules, but it certainly should be discouraged (ideally by correcting the misinterpretation in a follow-up post, not by deleting it). An ad hominem attack is certainly against the rules and admin action would be justified.


 * NickTheRed37, I would encourage you not to try to correct other people's behavior in their userspace unless it's an actual rules violation (not simply differing from guidelines). Other people's userspace is theirs and they should be free to break any guideline that doesn't actually break wiki rules. &mdash;munin &middot; Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Stone_Pickaxe.png &middot; 19:17, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Account error
I am having trouble logging in, but it works just fine when I use curse.67.160.25.176 21:12, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Unable to add website to user page.
I am unable to add my website to my user page because it is a ".tk" domain. Which seems to be blacklisted (The domain has a history on spam use). Could use of this domain be allowed on user pages? If not. could an admin add this " 007a83.tk " to the website area of my user page. Thank you.-- 007a83 Talk 03:59, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The spam filter applies to all namespaces; there's no way to make an exemption for user pages. (Most spammers use their user pages, so we probably wouldn't want to even if it was possible.) If it's added, you may be unable to edit your own user page – trying to save a page containing a blacklisted URL can trigger the filter, even if the URL was there before. -- Orthotopetalk 04:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Then I am unsure what to do. Is there a list of blacklisted sites? Can you whitelist "007a83.tk"?-- 007a83 Talk 05:29, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

What happened to the German Minecraft wiki?
I can't load the German Minecraft wiki any more - I get a DNS error. What's up with it? Same with the Dutch and the Polish wiki. | violine1101(Talk) 17:29, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I don’t have problems on said wikis. —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) </i> 17:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Now it works again. Weird, maybe it was just a hosting issue in Germany or something like that. | violine1101(Talk) 19:56, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Notegroups
As per Minecraft Wiki talk:Style guide, can /* Enable custom list style types in Template:Notelist */ div.notelist ol.references { list-style-type: inherit; }
 * The page MediaWiki:Cite link label group-note be created to be the same as wikipedia:MediaWiki:Cite link label group-lower-alpha
 * The page MediaWiki:Cite link label group-global be created to be the same as wikipedia:MediaWiki:Cite link label group-upper-alpha
 * The following be added to MediaWiki:Common.css

Also, what is the purpose of the talk page of this page? I have several times posted something there with no response, and many of the posts it currently contains are of the same type as what gets posted here.

– KnightMiner  · (t) 23:39, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Data values pe
Data values (Pocket Edition) contains a word that's preventing me from editing it. 108.216.29.43 13:25, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you copy-paste the filter’s warning message? —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) </i> 14:00, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

User css
For some reason, I am experiencing a strange problem where the only page that I (Goandgoo) can access is the Recent changes page. I believe this is due to my css hiding of ads/elements on the site. Briefly I was able to access my css page (User:Goandgoo/common.css) and I got it to work, then I tried editing out an item and now seem to be basically locked out of my account. Would an admin be able to undo the last of my edits to my common.css page so that I can access pages on my account again. Many thanks, 121.211.120.227 01:31, 17 April 2015 (UTC) (Goandgoo)


 * Thank you Orthotope, do you happen to know which of them is causing the issue? –Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 01:48, 17 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Done, I had the same issue. I think ".show-ads" is the culprit: the html for most content pages now includes " ". -- Orthotopetalk 01:49, 17 April 2015 (UTC)


 * So will simply removing .show-ads work? Hopefully I won't encounter the same problem again if I try this. –Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 01:58, 17 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Maybe? I haven't tested it myself yet; I'm not so bothered by this stuff now that the sidebar is gone. -- Orthotopetalk 02:09, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Template:Enchantlevels
I couldn't create enchantlevels/doc75.165.42.19 15:52, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * What did the abuse filter say? —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) </i> 16:15, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It said the information may have been unwanted. I attempted to write that it should be transccluded into enchantlevelsTableRow and included a table of parameters.75.165.42.19 16:47, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * An external link or what? Orthotope, Majr, Goandgoo? —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) </i> 17:30, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Logging in to your account is usually the easiest way to get around filters like this. -- Orthotopetalk 18:25, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Page creation is essentially disabled for IP addresses and new users, it has very specific requirements to let the edit though. Boy does it stop a lot of terrible pages being created though. I've created the page for you. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 10:56, 20 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Why is page creation designed to be difficult for IP users?75.165.42.19 13:21, 20 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Most of spam pages would otherwise go from them: you don’t need to register to be able to edit, so why not spam the wiki? —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) </i> 14:47, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Old editing toolbar
For interest, I tried to switch to the old editing toolbar, to find that after some time it is replaced with advanced toolbar anyway. Can we have it fixed? —  NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) </i> 18:16, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Did you check your preferences? Was the option reset there or are you getting the enhanced editing toolbar even with that option disabled? Also note that this preference is global, so if you reset it on any other wiki, it would have also affected your preference here on MCW. CrsBenjamin - (talk) [[File:User_Wynthyst_sig_icon.png]] 18:20, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * When editing with the setting disabled, I get the old toolbar, but after a while, it reverts to the enhanced one. Setting is unchanged. —  <b style=color:green;font-family:sans-serif>NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) </i> 18:26, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * As a help for us, can you definite "a while"? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? We'll have to see if we can reproduce the problem. Additionally, can you try toggling the preference again? CrsBenjamin - (talk) [[File:User_Wynthyst_sig_icon.png]] 18:33, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * A few seconds.
 * Already tried, but it still doesn’t work.
 * —  <b style=color:green;font-family:sans-serif>NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) </i> 18:35, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * So, you turned enhanced editing back on, and then off again and still can't get the old toolbar? So far I've not been able to reproduce, but I'll keep trying for a little while and see if it reverts. If it doesn't I'm not sure what we'll be able to do. CrsBenjamin - (talk) [[File:User_Wynthyst_sig_icon.png]] 18:40, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

This... should be allowed...
Okay, so I can not create "talk: raw mutton" because: " you are attempting to create a possibly unwanted page. As a new user, your action has been disallowed." And because "Your action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. A brief description of the matched abuse rule for your action is: Global AF - Adding a Link to a Short New Page"

Okay so I am not allowed to post the following:

"do you think we should mention this tweet somewhere?: https://twitter.com/jeb_/status/245503714167750656"

I think that short pages with links should be allowed, as long as it is a talk page –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 94.214.146.187 (talk) at 6:06, 22 April 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with
 * That would cause a lot of spam on talk pages, so no. Try creating an account, and doing some constructive edits on articles for good measure. That way, you may be allowed to do that. &mdash; <b style=color:green;font-family:sans-serif>NickTheRed37</b> t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) </i> 06:10, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Merging sections
I attempted to merge 2 sections, but an abuse filter said I was trying to remove a section. 71.212.10.80 02:08, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Template:Translation category
translation category is a high risk template, as it is used internally in many high use and protected templates, so it should really get protected to require autoconfirmed rights to edit, if not administrative rights. – KnightMiner  · (t) 17:59, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Protected, doesn't seem like it will need to be changed very often. -- Orthotopetalk 20:31, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Move over redirect with history
The page Liquids needs to be moved to Liquid to comply with the style guide, but Liquid has some history preventing that from happening. – KnightMiner  · (t) 04:40, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Orthotopetalk 04:47, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Filters Not Allowing Me to Create a New Section
I tried to create a new section on a page but I was blocked by a filter saying I was trying to delete a section. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.213.206.10 (talk) at 21:19, 22 May 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with

Filters not allowing me to edit my user page
I was adding some userboxes and an automatin filter stopped me from that.

I think that editing your user page should be normal and allowed, even for new users! --Susko3 (talk) 14:53, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * If any of the userboxes contained external links, that would cause the issue, so if you don't want to wait to create the page, try removing any user boxes with external links until you are autoconfirmed.
 * I think the reason external links are blocked on userpages is to reduce new user spammers from creating userpages flooded with virus links and advertisements. – KnightMiner  · (t) 15:51, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Works normally without external links! Thanks --Susko3 (talk) 19:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I found something wierd: This is on my preferences page:
 * > Member of groups: Autoconfirmed users, Users
 * But in the Autoconfirmed users page it says:
 * > Autoconfirmed users are users with accounts that are at least 4 days old, have made at least 10 edits to any page
 * Back to my prefferences page:
 * > Number of edits: 5
 * Someone explain! –Susko3 (talk) 08:35, 1 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The autoconfirmed users page is probably outdated; it hasn’t had any substantial edits since late 2011. Only someone at Curse can look at the settings file, but I’m guessing an upgrade set it back to the MediaWiki default, which is 0 days and 0 edits. — Orthotopetalk 09:09, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Login problems
When I login I only see a white page. The wiki does not load. but the wiki works fine when I am not logged in. I am unsure what is causing this. -- 007a83 Talk –Preceding undated comment was added at 15:23, 25 May 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with
 * I Think the problem us related to my custom hydra.css and custom common.css. I have backed up the content. If an admin could please delete the content on both pages, Thank you. -- 007a83 Talk 15:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Your common css is hiding the class ".show-ads", which is now used in the main body element. Removing that from the list should fix it, so if you know a bit about your browser's styles setting you can add  there to override your personal css while you fix it, otherwise and admin can fix that for you. (see also  above). – KnightMiner  · (t) 15:47, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, Please have an admin remove ".show-ads" from my common.css. Thank you.-- 007a83 Talk 15:50, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Should be fixed. — Orthotopetalk 16:49, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Working now. Thank you.-- 007a83 Talk 18:38, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Keeps vandalizing Tutorials by replacing the links with incorrect one and deleting links. – KnightMiner  · (t) 19:30, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Blocked. – LauraFi -  talk  21:21, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Scribunto-doc-page-does-not-exist
The system message doesn't put modules into Category:Templates with no documentation, so modules without documenation are difficult to keep track of. 71.212.10.80 01:00, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Part II
Renewing discussion from here, the user now appears to be invoking personal rules on talk pages unrelated to the userspace. One example:


 * "Voices without arguments" not counting in merge / split discussions.
 * The user then claims that its a general rule on the wiki to have an argument for opposing, but that rule is never mentioned on the official rules nor the talk page guidelines.

BDJP (t 15:02, 31 May 2015 (UTC)


 * The user also seems to have some anger issues going as far as to remove this discussion, and also attacking me to not revert before reading and getting some sense knocked into me. The user also states that he / she will attempt to evade a block to get his / her point, clearly violating rule 3. BDJP (t 15:33, 31 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I didn’t meant “evade blocks”. I am male, to get rid of confusion. —  Grid Command Block.png <b style=color:green>NickTheRed37</b> (talk&#124;contributions) 17:09, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Hungarian admins
Hungarian user Baranyaibb emailed me a few hours ago pointing out that the Hungarian wiki has only one admin and asking more admins to be selected. Since I don't know anything about the Hungarian wiki community (and don't have the ability to promote admins there even if I did), I'm posting this here to solicit feedback. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:24, 2 June 2015 (UTC) Also, a bureaucrat (Majr has rights there too I guess) could add a site-notice in the Hungarian wiki too that says that the wiki needs help and that it has too little admins. However, the notice should also say that instead of directly requesting adminship, new users should contribute to the wiki and then will probably become admins (if their edits were constructive) and it (the notice) should be in Hungarian (you could ask Baranyaibb for translation). Sou could also do the same with every other wiki which has pretty inactive or few admins. I don't think the English wiki community can't do more about this problem. | violine1101(Talk) 20:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * According to hu:Minecraft Wiki:Adminértesítő (which is the correct interwiki link to the admin noticeboard btw) and MCW:Directors, there is one bureaucrat, hu:User:TunSha (Last activity in june 2011) and five administrators: hu:User:Harbonah431 (june 2013), hu:User:Icguy (november 2013) , hu:User:LeGrund6 (january 2012) and hu:User:Martin200005 (may 2015) . I think it's reasonable to get some new admins for them but all I see that could be done is that you add something to the site-notice saying that there are some admins needed in the Hungarian wiki or at least a message which inspires (at least some) Hungarian readers of the English wiki to contribute to the Hungarian wiki. (Many, many users use the English wiki even if the Minecraft Wiki exists in another language. I know of some German people who always use the English wiki although the German wiki is complete (as far as it can be). Also, the Hungarian wiki seems to be pretty inactive). Maybe we could also reanimate this fizzled-out project from 2011. The text however would need to be changed.


 * I've fixed the Hungarian interwiki, thanks for pointing it out.
 * Truth be told, I don't have much personal interest in pursuing this. If there are specific, immediately actionable things that can be done and that I have the necessary permissions in the right places to do, I have no problem with doing them, but I don't really have the interest to work on developing any solutions here. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:18, 2 June 2015 (UTC)


 * It sounds like Martin200005 is the only active admin there. If he (or the Hungarian wiki community) can suggest users worthy of adminship, I’m sure Majr would be willing to promote them, but I don’t see what else we can do here. -- Orthotopetalk 23:09, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Some missed administrator edit requests
A few edit requests that have gotten lost (the third and fourth have not been too long, but I figured I'd bring them up while mentioning the rest).
 * 1) Template:License - Remove the category "notice templates" from license templates, as they are either not notice templates, or would do better in a subcat since they have their own category.
 * 2) MediaWiki:Talkpagetext - Setting archive to display as the talk page header on archive pages, to discourage editing of archives (rather then advising new topics).
 * 3) MCW:Directors - Stating our policy on administrator requests on an article, rather then leaving it unstated until someone asks. I had posted it on the talk page of this page for a bit of discussion, but there was no response.
 * 4) <s title="Finished">Markus Persson - not my request, but linking the relevant Ludum Dares, (also moving a protected archive page to a more proper name.)

– KnightMiner  · (t) 03:41, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * If no one else gets to these before then, poke me sometime in the next couple of days and I'll have a look at some of them. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:43, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * * KnightMiner pokes 
 * has done #4 (and responded to #3), though #1–3 are still needing to be done. – KnightMiner  · (t) 04:08, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * 1 and 2. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 08:43, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Console Edition Mentioned Features
On the Console Edition Mentioned Features the bit about the Xbox One does not need to be there because they have already had the update. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by PSCAN999 (talk • contribs) at 15:21, 08 June 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * This is a wiki, don’t ask to edit, just edit. — Agent NickTheRed37 (talk) 16:22, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * But that is the thing, I can't because my level is too low, which is a stupid thing. PSCAN999 (talk) 17:52, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The page is not protected, I don't see why you would not be able to edit it. – KnightMiner  · (t) 04:11, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The abuse filter prevented removing a section. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 08:37, 10 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The level is irrelevant, it is just mere statistics. &mdash; Agent NickTheRed37 (talk) 06:13, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Fix template overlap on Opera and Firefox
Can we add the CSS <pre class="mw-css"> /* Fixes element overlap on Firefox and Opera */ .atfmrec { margin-bottom: 1em; } To MediaWiki:Common.css? It fixes the overlap with quote and infobox by reducing the margin of the side ad, as Firefox and Opera see the element as a little too big. – KnightMiner  · (t) 15:30, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I edited quote like so, but I do like this solution, because it more generally addresses .atfmrec, which I didn't imagine was possible. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 18:52, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * This only fixes it if there is something in contentSub. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 08:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)


 * KnightMiner, in what cases are you seeing the overlap -- with or without an adblocker? If only with an adblocker, I might suggest:  .  That additionally solves the infoboxes sitting too low on the page. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 13:01, 10 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Majr@undefined I thought I tested it on a page like that... Anyways, the css  fixes it by using a little less space, but it still does not look that bad.
 * Sealbudsman@undefined I actually normally do not see the overlap as I use chrome, I was mainly interested in fixing it so we don't have to move the quotes. I previously was using Opera with adblock to test it, but that no longer causes a problem in the latest version. (apparently version 12 claims to be the latest, despite 30 being the latest...) Anyways, the issue still exists on Firefox, but only when using adblock.
 * As for using the pseudo class "empty", it does not seem to work as the element is not technically empty, it just has invisible content. – KnightMiner  · (t) 16:07, 10 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, not needing to move quotes is how I came to this issue, too. And whoops, I guess I was lazy and didn't notice that .atfmrec wasn't empty. .contentSub is empty, however, and the pseudoselector could still apply.  Unless the space there is intentional.
 * What about keeping the left-margin on the atfmrec, but moving the top and bottom margin to the contents? Like so: .  The idea is to be both adblocker-agnostic (whether content is invisible or removed, the vertical margin disappears) and ad-agnostic (if that element is filled dynamically by the advertiser, which I don't know but I am guessing, it applies the margins correctly no matter how many elements they want to throw in there.) – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 16:49, 10 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The main issue with .contentSub when not filled it has less of a margin, causing the overlap.
 * As for moving the margin, I had not thought of that. Matching specific children does not work so well, as all adblock seems to remove is iframes, but we could place the margin on the iframe element to fix the issue, like so . – KnightMiner  · (t) 17:21, 10 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah. If in fact adblock only removes iframes -- for instance if, in the future, there's never a div or something inside .atfmrec that adblock hides -- then yeah that looks pretty good. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 17:48, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Majr@undefined, your recent edit to the CSS leaves identical margins in place, since (at least in my browser) #cdm-zone-02 is never hidden -- and because there was no change in margins, Quote continues to overlap. It may not have been apparent because the Quote table still has as a stopgap measure, but if you remove those styles in a browser's element inspector, you'll see what I mean. Apologies if you knew this, I just realize it was never explicitly said. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) t/c 12:16, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * is empty when adblock is enabled, so it should only have margin when there are ads. I tested with the quote changes removed and it works fine. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 15:22, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * It must only be empty with some adblocks, but not all. In the one I have, the content is just hidden, and you can see the Quote overlaps when it doesn't have the special margins. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png T/C 15:44, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * For me when using adblock there still is an iframe within  (which takes a bit after page load to pop up it seems). It does not actually display as anything, but rather runs a couple scripts (which at a quick glance seems to configure some styling stuff based on OS and screen size). One option would be replacing   with , as assuming adblock removes that div element, it would not add any styling. – KnightMiner  · (t) 02:17, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I must've had some custom rules, as after reinstalling adblock, the iframe and div now appear (the page also takes an incredibly long time to finish loading now, too).
 * We cannot rely on styling these though, the div after the first frame is not removed by adblock, and it is sometimes not inserted at all, and some ads are loaded directly inside, after   instead of inside it.
 * The end-all solution is for people using adblockers to also adblock . We can't really be expected to support adblockers, the site is not intended to be used without ads. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 13:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * the site is not intended to be used without ads -- True. I suppose the case-by-case method of just adjusting tables like quote works just fine for now. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png T/C 18:21, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor?
Since when was this thing even enforced? BDJP (t 18:09, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yesterday? &mdash; Agent NickTheRed37 (talk) 08:12, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Did something odd to the page "nether reactor" (special:Diff/846859). This is unacceptable. 71.212.10.80 00:47, 13 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Per the header "Post here only if the user has made several disruptive edits and/or persists despite a warning." The user has made one edit which hardly was wiki breaking. – KnightMiner  · (t) 04:04, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

User pages
There are many user pages that belong to unregistered users. I've marked them for deletion, but we need to make sure they don't come back. To do this we would have abuse filters against creating such pages. The BlobsPaper.png 14:51, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Continued to vandalize after previous block expired. – <b style='color:#07E'>JEC</b><sup style='color:#FA0'>6789 talk•contribs 17:57, 16 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Blocked again. — Orthotopetalk 18:46, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Constantly advertising a server. Also remade an "article" about said server that was deleted by. BDJP (t 18:41, 18 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Recreated the article again, and started personal attacks against . – KnightMiner  · (t) 19:24, 19 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Blocked by Orthotope. – LauraFi -  talk  19:27, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

cannot publish page because of new user.
I am a new logged user. I have been unable to edit / create pages because I am a new user. I have. Been using this wiki for three years unlogged. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by BroBite (talk • contribs) at 13:27, 21 June 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * Make some edits in the mainspace, then the filters shouldn’t blocking you from creating articles. The system can’t really know when you did start editing at all, unfortunately. — Agent NickTheRed37 (talk) 16:37, 21 June 2015 (UTC)


 * We already have pages on iron golem farming and hoppers. It would be better to add to those existing pages rather than create new, duplicate ones. — Orthotopetalk 18:13, 21 June 2015 (UTC)