Talk:Tadpole

Merge with Frog

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Result of the discussion was do not merge. BDJP (t 06:23, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I thought I should start this discussion, since there has been at least one person in favor of a merge. Personally, though, I this merge. Tadpoles and frogs are distinctive enough in game to have seperate spawn eggs, so it makes sense that they would have seperate pages. It seems somewhat like the plant stages that are seperate pages due to their item forms and player interactions being different, as well as a little like some mob variants in Minecraft Earth. Anyways, go ahead and start posting additional thoughts or opposing views. I just thought that I'd get the discussion started. PegasusDust (talk) 20:04, 22 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I the merge also, because unlike other baby mobs, tadpoles are treated as completely different mobs in the game. Tadpoles grow into frogs, saplings grow into trees. They are distinct in both appearance and function. Amatulic (talk) 02:29, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I the merge, they have their own spawn eggs and are different mobs. LucasGameszYT (talk) 14:33, 04 January 2022 (UTC)
 * In reality, tadpoles are the children of frogs, and they are the same organism, so the evaluation of merging depends on the stance of the reader.--Pneuma01 (talk) 16:47, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * But this wiki is about the game and its workings, not a reader's real-world perspectives. Amatulic (talk) 18:55, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * per Amatulic. BDJP (t 16:50, 4 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I . Frogs and tadpoles are treated as different mobs, and so the articles should remain separate. – Unsigned comment added by 90.194.36.97 (talk) at 17:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC). Sign comments with


 * I . They are baby variants of another mob. So what if they act different? One grows into the other, and therefore I do not consider this grounds to be a separate mob or have a separate page. Yeah they have different spawn eggs but so do Llamas and Trader Llamas. So yes, Frogs and Tadpoles are obviously different, but they are the same animal, different parts of the same "lifecycle", therefore I support this page being merged with Frog. Lefty8899 (talk) 17:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


 * . Functionally speaking, tadpoles are essentially just the baby version of frogs, and serve very little purpose outside of just growing up into frogs, yes, they are separate mobs in-game, but that might be like having a page for Evoker Fangs separate from Evokers. Unless tadpoles receive substantial updates from being a mob that basically just wanders around until growing up into a frog, and I don't think they will, I think them sharing a page with frogs wouldn't be so bad, just look at how brief the information in the current article is, could very easily just be integrated into the current Frog article, if it's too disruptive, just have a separate sections, like what Evoker Fangs have within the Evoker page. The reason I instead of just  is because ultimately I don't think it's very consequential whether both pages end up separate or merged, and, if anything, the examples provided of different mobs sharing the same page might fare better as separate pages, but I'd like to hear different perspectives. Pescavelho (talk) 22:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I say I because they are not alike User:SlipperySoapFanatic64


 * Personally I because comments above, though if it doesn't get merged it would still be fine. Thejoaqui777 (talk) 17:13, 28 January 2022 (UTC)


 * : Two distinct Minecraft mobs with different names. EliteHog (talk) 10:54, 5 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I, because they are different mobs, with different spawn eggs and are not like the other baby mobs. Rogerio980Pizzaa (talk) 13:14, 13 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Despite them being different mobs, they are both frogs. Just one is baby and one is adult. The fact that they are different mobs are (probably) due to their large behavioral/visual differences, making it hard to implement into a single mob. This discussion relates to the this merge request, so a lot of the points there can be taken into consideration here too. IllagerCaptain (talk | contribs | website) 22:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The 'oppose' side there has the better reasoning, though. As someone over there pointed out to you, an analogous reasoning would be merging steak with raw beef because they are both beef, just one has more hunger restoration. That is not a valid reason to merge them. The fact remains that tadpoles and frogs are drastically different both in appearance and function. The only thing they have in common is that one transforms into another. Tadpole vs frog is more like sapling vs tree. They are distinct. The arguments supporting a merge are pretty weak, and slapping the word "strong" on an argument doesn't make it less weak. Amatulic (talk) 16:41, 8 March 2022 (UTC)


 * . Not a fan of having ED2 subpages for other entity's NBT data. —— SPGoding (talk) 21:59, 19 March 2022 (UTC).


 * . Tadpoles and frogs have different IDs, which means they are intended to be different mobs. Just because villagers can be zombified and cured, doesn't mean villagers and zombie villagers are the same type of mob. Windwend (talk) 21:15, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Inconsistency
In the frogspawn page, they say "Frogspawn can take up to 10 minutes to hatch, causing 2-5 tadpoles to spawn." But in the tadpole page, they say "Tadpoles hatch in groups of 2-6 from frogspawn." That created inconsistency, I hope someone fix it. Brain180 (talk) 03:54, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I saw an edit on a related page earlier today, and I looked into it at the time. Java appears to be 2-6 looking at the code, but Bedrock seems to be 2-5 (just verified in their 1.19 behavior pack). We should probably clarify in both locations. - AD OffKilter (talk) 04:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)