User talk:Game widow

Curse?
You're not part of Curse. HotdogPi ⑬㊲ 23:15, 29 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes they are. Not all of the Curse wiki team is on every single wiki. They tend to focus on a few wikis rather than the entire team spread across all wikis. http://www.wikiswtor.com/User:Game_widow http://www.skyrimwiki.com/User:Game_widow http://www.falloutwiki.com/User:Game_widow  18:34, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It would have been nice if the user had provided those links when creating their page. A new user claiming to be part of Curse without any evidence, not in the Curse rights group, and not on the Directors page, looked rather questionable. -- Orthotope 20:03, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Install an extension
Hello im from the minecraft-es wiki. We want to install this extension.

Could you do it?

Thank you. --Trarsheise (talk) 09:34, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem at all, I'll get that set up and let you know when it's active. — Game widow (talk) 14:38, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * And it's done. — Game widow (talk) 02:01, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Gamepedia points/level
Hey Game widow, I know it's not a terribly important thing, but my profile still shows me as not having any Gamepedia points, and as a result, being at level 1, and it's shown this since the update in which it was first added. Does it appear correctly for others (viewing my profile while logged out shows the same thing, so I'm leaning towards "no"), or is there something deeper going on? 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 20:28, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think the background process is actually done crawling through all the wikis and updating the information yet, but i'll check into it. I know my own profile is not up to date either — Game widow (talk) 11:35, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks. =) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:52, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Add a group
Hello again,

I'm from the Spanish wiki and we want a new group called "Usuarios de confianza" with the right "autopatrol". Could you do it?

Thank you =) --Trarsheise (talk) 15:13, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe so, I'll get back to you shortly — Game widow (talk) 15:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I do believe it's done — Game widow (talk) 16:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks a lot. --Trarsheise (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * EDIT: We have a little problem. Could you add a right for the group "burocratas" so they can add other users to the new group?
 * Thank you. --Trarsheise (talk) 16:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Is this still not working for you, or are things working properly now? — Game widow (talk) 18:41, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * This is still not working. Image.
 * You can see it at es:Especial:ListaDerechosGrupos. At the group "Burócratas":
 * Agregar grupos(translate: add groups): Bots, Administradores y bureucrat
 * Eliminar grupos(translate: delete groups): Bots, Administradores, Burócratas, Usuarios, nopreviewrequire, directors y usuarios de confianza
 * I hope this help you ;)
 * Sorry about my bad english Trarsheise   ►Discusión◄►Contribuciones◄ 23:43, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it helps, and i will look into it further — Game widow (talk) 03:08, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Internal error when unwatching pages
Hello. These are the error messages returned when a user attempts to edit their watchlist. Reported by a user on the Russian wiki, I tested by trying to remove an entry from my watchlist (and received the same error messages) there and on this wiki.

Unwatching pages by clicking the Unwatch button in the page's options removes it from the watchlist without any errors.

--GreenStone (talk) 00:26, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I have reported the issue to our Platform team — Game widow (talk) 00:40, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * This is now fixed. --GreenStone (talk) 21:54, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

2013 Minecon Cape contest
Hey Game widow, I just completed all but one of the "ways to enter" extra entry things (after no small amount of difficulty on my part) for the Enter to win a 2013 Minecon Cape contest, and it's now showing that I have 2111112 entries; refreshing the page hasn't changed this. I don't know if it's just a display bug and I only have 9 entries, or if something went seriously haywire and I really ended up with over 2 million, but if it's the latter, I'd really rather not be disqualified for something completely beyond my control. =) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, you would definitely not be disqualified for something that was not your fault. I'll look into it — Game widow (talk) 12:51, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Aah, thanks! =D 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:00, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems it's fixed (it now shows me as having 9 entries); thanks for your help! =) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:33, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

About Chinese Minecraft Wiki
I've pinged minecraft-zh.gamepedia.com, I got 190.93.244.101. I found it is in Costa Rica. That's far away from China -- where most Chinese-speaker in. I know gamepedia use CloudFlare, and they have a panel point in Hong Kong. Could you switch the panel point to Hong Kong for Chinese Minecraft Wiki if possible?  a20001017 Talk 09:04, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure there's anything we can do about that, but i will ask — Game widow (talk) 12:18, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

About Bots
Hello Game widow!

How could I make a second account with the same email in order to create a bot account?

Trarsheise   ►Discusión◄►Contribuciones◄ 17:29, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid it isn't possible. You could create basically a dummy account on googlemail which redirects to your primary email address and use that. That's the only relatively easy workaround i can suggest. — Game widow (talk) 18:08, 2 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks anyway, I'll do that. Trarsheise   ►Discusión◄►Contribuciones◄ 21:23, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

SyntaxHighlight GeSHi?
Could we finally have SyntaxHighlight GeSHi enabled? The original request/veto was almost three years ago, and with Lua, I believe it is more relevant than ever; it's not like the extension itself is unstable or the like, given the fact that it's been used on Wikimedia wikis - including the English Wikipedia - for close to a decade now, and has been bundled since MediaWiki 1.21. Thanks! 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:57, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Personally, I don't like GeSHi. Mainly because of its terrible class naming scheme which makes styling it difficult, but its also the sort of thing that I prefer to see done with JS. It gives you more control over what syntax it supports (no regex-based highlighter perfectly highlights all syntax), and you're not slowing down the page load waiting for it to parse a big script. I've been using Prism.js for ages and it works pretty well, and is really easy to extend (I added support for lua really easily) and theme. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs ⎜ 05:44, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm inclined to agree with Majr here. But if you two can come to an agreement, i can act on it — Game widow (talk) 11:32, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


 * If you don't mind us using your talk page for it, I'll see what we can do, otherwise I can move the discussion over to Majr's talk page. =)
 * Majr: Like it or not, GeSHi is the de facto standard for syntax highlighting on MediaWiki wikis, and SyntaxHighlight GeSHi is the standard - de facto and de jure - for implementing it via an extension. While I can't speak for ease of styling, since I've never had reason to restyle GeSHi's output, I can say from personal experience that the added overhead from GeSHi's processing is so minuscule as to be nonexistent from a human perspective, even on very large files. (I'll also grant you the bit about regex not being suited for constructing parsers; that's not exactly a controversial notion.) There are other extensions for syntax highlighting, some of which don't use GeSHi, but I've never had reason nor opportunity to actually try any of them.
 * I am the opposite of you here; I don't care for JavaScript solutions, instead preferring something server-side. There is no good argument for not syntax highlighting scripts for every person that views them, and the only way to do that client-side is to include the syntax highlighting JS in a global JS file, in which case the overhead of loading the script is present on every uncached pageload. At best, you can write a wrapper function to check for highlightable scripts on the current page and then conditionally load the script if any are found. And if the script isn't loaded globally, it falls to each individual to discover and then add it for themselves, a straight-up non-solution: very few people are going to be interested in going through the effort, especially when they're already accustomed to syntax highlighting on other MediaWiki wikis Just Working&trade;. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:00, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not one to advocate using JS where it is unnecessary (nothing worse than someone using JS for something CSS can do), however I would consider syntax highlighting a progressive enhancement. Even if GeSHi only slows down the page load by half a second, I would still rather be able to see the unhighlighted code that half a second earlier and have it be enhanced with highlighting a moment later.
 * Loading the script would be made easier if we had gadgets. But really, is this something that the everyday reader needs? On WP it's relevant where there are a fair number of articles with code in them, and many people are editing code on the wiki, but here we rarely post any code in articles, and any we do post is just small snippets of pseudo-code or Java, which isn't particularly important to have highlighted. Otherwise, its only use is for the (surprisingly few) editors that edit Lua, JS or CSS. Which they could easily opt-in (or opt-out, if we prefer it as the default) to a gadget.
 * I'm not going to make a big fuss about having GeSHi. If other people would also prefer it over other options and think it is worthwhile, then no problem. I can always personally overwrite it with more customised solutions anyway. ;) –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs ⎜ 03:37, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


 * For HTML and CSS, I'd agree, syntax highlighting, nice as it is, is largely a progressive enhancement. For just about anything else (including wikimarkup; I have regularly found myself wishing the editor highlighted syntax for me, especially when editing templates), I would argue that syntax highlighting is much closer to a necessity. And when I said that enabling GeSHi didn't result in any noticeable slowdown, I meant exactly that: I don't think I've ever seen any GeSHi-highlighted page take more than a few additional microseconds to be rendered and sent to the client (definitely never an additional half-second or more), and as I said, that's even with having some fairly large CSS/JS pages highlighted.
 * In this case, I'm not particularly worried about whether the everyday reader needs. As I've explained already (well, alluded to rather strongly), the extension has been highly optimized so that it only runs either on pages with a  tag or on user and skin CSS/JS pages and Lua modules, so for most pages, there's no additional overhead whatsoever, and even on the pages it runs on, you would have to be comparing render times to notice any difference at all. I have found syntax highlighting important enough that I've specifically requested the extension be enabled on Wikia wikis I'm heavily involved in, right up to the point where Wikia started just enabling it by default (the two aren't related, I think), and for the most part, those wikis are not heavy on article-facing code snippets: one is the Yu-Gi-Oh! wiki, which AFAICR doesn't have a single code snippet in any article.
 * Lastly, when the extension is enabled, it adds the file MediaWiki:Geshi.css, which can be used to tweak or apply fixes to the highlighting behavior in some cases; Wikipedia has two such tweaks in their file. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:10, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I guess I just prefer gadgets over extensions because you have control over gadgets, whereas with extensions you're stuck with whatever it gives you. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs ⎜ 02:50, 14 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I am totally fine with you guys hashing it out here :) — Game widow (talk) 01:48, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Problems with external links
Hello! I'm from russian wiki, and I have problems adding external links or calling templates, that have external links, example is License Mojang, that links to Minecraft EULA and Curse terms. When I click "Save Page", I'm asked to choose cats, but it even shouldn't ask it, because I am an autoconfirmed user and have right "skipcaptcha". When the cats are chosen, I click "Save Page" again. But it again asks me to choose the cats! I tried logging off my account, choosing cats 3 times, but nothing works. It began after wiki updated MediaWiki to 1.23. --Dand0 (talk) 07:11, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * And I have no such problems in English Wiki. --Dand0 (talk) 07:20, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Usually that only happens when you are not logged in. I will look into it — Game widow (talk) 11:11, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Related topic: I had a similar captcha incident (that used blurry words rather than cats), but only whenever I open this website, no matter what wiki, since day or so prior to the MediaWiki update. After the update or short time after it, the site no longer asks for a captcha. Also, I'm also a contributor from Russian wiki, but made an edit in the English wiki first. –Regards, Naista2002  ᐸ Talk Contribs 11:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I am logged in, I checked it. So, user DragonX24 has the same problem as me. Naista2002, it will stop soon, I have to enter CAPTCHA every other visit to the wiki or another web-site, that uses CloudFare. --Dand0 (talk) 12:12, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Almost, the problem is in infinite Cat-CAPTCHA, not just having to pass CAPTCHA for auto-confirmed users. --Dand0 (talk) 12:19, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * So, I looked into Wynthyst's talk, and found this. There, there was the same problem with Cat-CAPTCHA (is it extension Asirra?), and it was fixed. —Dand0(talk) 12:56, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Dand0, that problem stopped on my host, and I already knew about that stuff being CloudFlare's. Also, in your signature, set the talk link to the english talk page, even if it doesn't exist. One that clicked the link may not knew Russian. To help with navigation, add an interwiki at the beginning — what I shall do right after posting this reply. Anyone can create your English talk page. –Regards, Naista2002  ᐸ Talk Contribs 13:37, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Naista2002, I only tested my signature. Is your problem solved? --Dand0 (talk) 13:48, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by «my problem»? –The infinite cat-captcha doesn't happen to me, and your signature has a correct talk page link. –Regards,  Naista2002  ᐸ Talk Contribs 15:08, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I meant, every visit CloudFlare site you have to pass CAPTCHA. --Dand0 (talk) 15:21, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * As I stated above, it no longer happens. –Regards, Naista2002  ᐸ Talk Contribs  15:56, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Note: When the alignment exceeds 8 points (uses of the colon), use Outdent. –Regards, Naista2002  ᐸ Talk Contribs  16:01, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. You has been in English wiki longer than me, so you know English talk rules better than me. --Dand0 (talk) 16:25, 12 September 2014 (UTC) Надо бы подумать над таким шаблоном в русской вики
 * Yes, – I made an edit in English wiki first. LOL for that spoiler
 * P.S. We're going off-topic now. We must stop about that. –Regards, Naista2002  ᐸ Talk Contribs  16:45, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're right. Let's wait for Game widow to answer. --Dand0 (talk) 17:06, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, guys. The Captcha issues are a CloudFlare issue, just like the last time. The Platform team is dealing with CF and they should be resolved shortly, if not already. — Game widow (talk) 21:38, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Is the last infinite cat-CAPTCHA their fault too? --Dand0 (talk) 07:02, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I was advised that all those issues were CF, are they still happening ? — Game widow (talk) 13:08, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, infinite cat-captcha is still happening. --Dand0 (talk) 13:36, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * There is a fix rolling out right now which should fix the problem once and for all. — Game widow (talk) 19:32, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

So, fixed now. Thank you! And look below, please. --Dand0 (talk) 19:47, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * As I already said, use Outdent when the identation exceeds 8. Thanks! –Regards, Naista2002  ᐸ Talk Contribs  15:25, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Search function broken?
Hello, the search function of the Chinese wiki seems to be broken since the site has moved to the gamepedia domain, it searches English words fine, but when it comes to searching Chinese characters, no result shows up, this makes the search function quite useless since we cannot find what we want if we don't have the exact page names. I hope the Curese tech team can help us solve this problem. One more thing, for my profile and some others, we don't get gamepedia points at all, it is pretty surprising to see when the top editor is level 1 with 0 points. —Powup333  ZH Admin  00:04, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


 * This has been passed onto our development team, and they will look into it for you :) Cblair91 07:52, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


 * It has been two weeks now, but it seems like the searchbar and gamepedia points issue has not been fixed. Is the tech team busy with something else? If so, when can these issues been fixed? —Powup333  ZH Admin  00:40, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Since Cblair91 was dealing with it, i've forwarded a link to this section to them — Game widow (talk) 16:47, 28 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Powup333, Sorry for the delay on things, bit busy at the moment :) Anyhow, the last information I received from the dev's regarding the search is they will be rolling out a new search system soon which should fix this issue. I will get in touch with them later today to see when this deploy is ETA'd. Regarding the gamepedia points, on which wiki is this so I can look into it? :) Cblair91 ~ Wiki Manager talk 04:28, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


 * This wiki has problems with the gamepedia points, mine still says Level 1 with 0 points (as does many others on the wiki). –Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-1em>Talk Contribs Edits 12:15, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, according to Special:WikiPoints, you DO have points, but there is a bug for it displaying on your profile... I have forwarded this to the dev team and they will take a look at it :) Cblair91 ~ Wiki Manager talk 12:20, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Database dump?
Hey Game widow, I've got a user asking on my talk page for a database dump; I know Curse doesn't just provide them generally (or at least, I've never seen any type of download link for them), but told the user I'd ask if one could be provided for them. I also know Curse isn't Wikia, but would like to point out that Wikia does provide database dumps (you can either download or request a dump of any wiki from that wiki's Special:Statistics page), so in that sense, there is some precedent for it. Thanks! =) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:50, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


 * The best option you have with this is using the export and import tools :)Cblair91 07:52, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I'll let them know, but their request makes it sound like Special:Export wouldn't work for them (they're specifically looking for an offline reference). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:42, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I believe there is extensions for Chrome and firefox that allows caching websites so when you're online it saves a copy, and when you're offline it uses the cache'd version :) Cblair91 19:22, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Reload rights group
In the Russian section, we want to add the right «skipcaptcha» to group «Autoconfirmed users». Thank you in advance. — google translate. — Ivan-r ru.Wiki Admin  16:11, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * There is a fix rolling out right now which should fix the problem once and for all. This group right is included in that change. — Game widow (talk) 19:31, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Fixed now. Thank you! By the way, could you add a group for us, called "Модераторы" (Moderators) with following rights:
 * (autoconfirmed)
 * (rollback)
 * (autopatrol)
 * (apihighlimits)
 * (abusefilter-view)
 * (abusefilter-log)
 * (deletedhistory)
 * (deleterevision)?
 * Thank you. --Dand0 (talk) 19:44, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The new group should be in place and ready to use — Game widow (talk) 21:43, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It was concluded before that this user group is unnecessary. The group's intended purpose was to revert and/or delete all vandalism (and leave all methods of preventing it, such as abuse filters and blocks, to administrators). As vandalism is now mostly neither frequent nor severe (an occasional anonymous user adding profanity or gibberish, or removing some text, is far less significant than no longer active IP-changing vandals making many edits without any patterns, or large groups of registered vandals targeting semiprotected pages; a relatively recent incident with a registered user blanking articles is a situation when someone needs to block him quickly, not revert him until he stops), I think no additional countermeasures are required. --GreenStone (talk) 21:54, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

General issues
I was about to post an error report about what I see when using the wiki in Firefox 32 (and what some other users confirm as well). The sidebar sometimes loads partially (its initially collapsed sections may not be expandable), search suggestions don't appear, the advanced edit toolbar is gone.

Then I tried Opera 12.17. Everything worked fine.

I asked our users to test these functions and report the results including information about the browsers they used for testing. The results are in the table below:


 * Thank you for the very thorough investigation. I will definitely inform our platform team and let you know what can be done, or is currently being worked on — Game widow (talk) 00:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)


 * It's nothing to do with any browser, you just have some really old JS on your wiki that causes an error on this version of MediaWiki. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 01:32, 6 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Solved, works fine now. I have no experience with JS at the moment. Thank you for fixing this, Majr. I feel the need to apologize for incorrect identification of the source of the problem. --GreenStone (talk) 08:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Social network popups
They can't be interacted with in any way. All buttons in the popups are reported to do nothing when clicked, and that includes the Close button. That may make editing the wiki impossible for some users.

In addition to that, many social networks more common in Russia are not supported by these social functions. Several wiki users said that they do not see any reasons why these popups shouldn't be disabled as soon as possible.

We found these reasons to disable them for the Russian wiki:
 * 1) Bugged. Even if they're fixed now, in case of another update they may become unusable again.
 * 2) As mentioned above, country-specific social networks are not supported.
 * 3) Annoying to those who don't want to share links to their contributions. And an account is required to disable them.
 * 4) I do not use social networks, but some users say that they find the popups redundant, and that we have the Share tab on almost every page.

We found no reasons to leave them. Therefore, if the popups can't be disabled, we need to know why. --GreenStone (talk) 13:51, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do about the social pop-ups. I can certainly understand that the services listed there are of little use to Russian contributors. — Game widow (talk) 00:50, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I think I've managed to remove all the social media from the Russian wiki. Let me know if i've missed anything — Game widow (talk) 20:26, 7 October 2014 (UTC)