Talk:Java Edition hardware performance/Archive 4

The distribution of Linux is irrelevant. Only the architecture and kernel version is truly necessary, and possibly other things such as non-default CPU schedulers(such as the Brain Fuck Scheduler), SMP, and preemption.

Just added three Operating Systems running on the same laptop, might be good data. Wolfos

Laptop/Desktop Category
It has come to my attention that when browsing this page, there is no column that denotes whether or not the information came from a laptop or desktop system. The processing power of laptops will always be lower than that of desktops, even when they have the same series of processor. For example, most mobile Core i5/i7 processors are dual core w/hyperthreading, resulting in 2 real and 2 virtual cores. Conversely, most Core i5/i7 processors in desktop systems are in fact true quad-core CPUs. The same principle also goes for video cards and their power. I think that for clarity, there should be a column in which it is stated whether or not the system is a laptop or a desktop. I would add the column myself, but I didn't want to drastically modify the page without the opinions of others. If this is deemed a good idea, please implement it.

>>>Good idea IMO. Mr0 15:45, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

>>>My laptop has a true quad core CPU (i7 740 QM) and even that is significantly weaker than say an i7 920.--72.231.136.150 01:12, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

>>>Yes, thank you. I've always wondered if Minecraft is just laptop-unfriendly by design (has been getting better since 1.9pre6 and RC2, but 1.8 and the earlier 1.9 Pre-Releases couldn't even load a world without sp614x's OptiFine mod), or if it's just the fact that mine is lower-mid-end (AMD 2.1GHz dual-core, ATI Radeon Mobility HD 4250, 3GB RAM). Adding a column for the system type would be helpful. --76.22.45.127 22:08, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Dynamic lighting
Now that Minecraft has dynamic lighting, should it be enabled or disabled when doing these tests? Mr0 15:45, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Have fancy on. Just follow the screenshot rules. There is a section here that explains the standard settings. MoonBeans (u-t-c) 20:45, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Adding a column "Java Version"
I would like to add a column "Java Version", advantages are: --Visitor 09:36, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * We can find out if java 7 is really better for running Minecraft then java 6 like some players reported.
 * Players might notice then that they use an outdated java version and upgrade it. Some very old Java-Versions are really slow!

Perhaps another thing is some of the Linux users may be (unintentionally) running Open JDK instead of Sun (Oracle) Java 6 which would account for the unplayable rates on modern hardware. (Unrelated, they may also be running the opensource video drivers instead of accelerated ones)

---Chartreuse, 19 November 2011

Template
I want to add a Nevbox template at the end of the page, but because of the program used to add entries I cant, because a new entry will then be under the template, outside of the chart. --Yurisho 07:09, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Requirements
I noticed the Minecraft article does not contain any system requirements, while the Android version article at Pocket Edition does. Should such requirements be added to this page instead? An old forum thread covering Alpha requirements is archived at http://www.game-requirements.com/index.php?title=Special:ConfirmEmail/d93f7a577da45dd1134241f61b71c925 and it would help prospective players, and getsatisfaction helpers helping those players, better determine what hardware and system setup is actually required to play Minecraft. An example would be exactly which versions of OpenGL are needed for each Minecraft video setting? 1.4 appears to be the number passed around. -Aurelius 19:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Unless Mojang provides official hardware requirements, I agree that having some data on what sort of performance is obtained from various setups is useful. This article would be significantly improved by restricting it to just the current release version of Minecraft. (If people want to compare performance across different versions, that's another article.) As others have suggested, separate sections for desktops and laptops, and columns for Java and OpenGL versions, would also be useful. Orthotope 06:24, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


 * @Orthotope: OpenGL Versions won't help as they only tell you what the card should(TM) support. Each Graphics Card manufacturer has there own drivers which are not comparable(As in an ATI Driver which supports 1.4 is not comparable to an NVidia one which supports 1.4). The OpenGL Specification is an open ended one, Each Feature of a card is an Extension (There are core "Extensions" for each version which are meant to be supported by cards) so there is no performance gain or loss based on what version of OpenGL your card supports. --Stucuk 00:43, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * After merciless removal of entries and restricting the testing conditions a bit further, I have a preliminary revision at User:Orthotope/Hardware_performance_new. Out went entries of either old or pre-release versions, with incomplete information, using mods (e.g, OptiFine), or claiming absurdly high frame rates. I categorized ones that could be easily identified as laptops or desktops. Any comments? -Orthotope 11:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


 * @Aurelius your link is not correct. The Minecraft Page contains a link to This Thread on the Minecraft Forums. --Stucuk 00:43, 25 January 2012 (UTC)