Talk:Axolotl

Blue
I encountered a rare blue axolotl with golden gills, can someone add a render of these to the page? --187.144.18.35 17:58, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Axolotl Textures
I extracted the files for 20w51a. Can someone put these Axolotl textures into isometric renders? Hipposgrumm (talk) 18:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Why, the people making renders already have access to the textures, that's how they make them ;) – Unavailablehoax (talk) 18:21, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

i did some renders!--RetroPacifist (talk) 19:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

i dont know how to upload these properly but heres a link to an imgur album of them!! https://imgur.com/a/6iAYfUqRetroPacifist (talk) 19:11, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Sounds
I want everyone to know that I am handling sounds. I have already located and extracted them. I will work on this periodically. – Unsigned comment added by Hipposgrumm (talk • contribs) at 19:19, December 16, 2020 (UTC). Sign comments with


 * The second sound in the idle_air section does not work currently. Thanks for adding the rest, though!PegasusDust (talk) 02:31, 17 December 2020 (UTC)


 * There was an extra r in air for the second sound, thanks for pointing that out. I've actually haven't seen this earlier; I made the sound table – Unavailablehoax (talk) 03:22, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Unofficial Textures!
Why keeping the unofficial axolotls renders? Its Just a recreation.... Its unofficial! L7876 (talk) 16:23, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Were keeping them until we have the official ones. James Haydon (talk) 20:23, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Axolotls are NOT tamable.
You guys realize that axolotls aren't tamable, right? – Unsigned comment added by 70.229.101.88 (talk) at 17:56, December 16, 2020 (UTC). Sign comments with


 * NO, they are actually if u could not tame them, why would they fight for you 75.85.177.38 19:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No they're not, all you do is hold a (bucket of) tropical fish to tempt them, kind of like how all animals beg for their food. They're not tamed in any way shape or form. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 19:58, 18 December 2020
 * Someone made a comment on Talk:Caves & Cliffs claiming that they could be tamed with poisonous potatoes for some reason. I removed that comments but my point is that just because the mob will fight for you, does not mean its a tamable mob, just like Foxes and Ocelots. James Haydon (talk) 20:04, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Jeb refers to them as "trustable" (like foxes or ocelots). Pescavelho (talk) 16:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ultimate bruh moment I wanted a pet axolotl --75.108.112.191 19:47, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

I believe if you scoop them up in a hucket and replace them they dont leave to far from where you put them

Are axolotls amphibians or reptiles

 * The following discussion &#32;of a question is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Discussion is going off topic

According to this page, axolotls are amphibians, but User:Proeg A incorrectly calls them reptiles. So are axolotls amphibians or reptiles? The Great Spring (talk | contribs) (Tagalog translation) 00:40, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * A quick google search says axolotls are not reptiles. – JEC talk 01:20, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Which means they are amphibians? The Great Spring (talk | contribs) (Tagalog translation) 01:21, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes – JEC talk 01:22, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Amphibians lay eggs in, water, while reptiles lay eggs on land (generally. Some reptiles give birth to live young.) Amphibians have relatively smooth skin, while reptiles have scaly skin. Most amphibians go through some kind of metamorphosis, while reptiles hatch or are born looking mostly like their parents. My question is if we really need that part of the trivia. We could add something about their life cycle like on the bee page, but the current form doesn't seem necessary. Comparing axolotl breeding to turtles, the single exception to Minecraft breeding rules, seems strange. PegasusDust (talk) 23:05, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Even if they were reptiles, they would not be the first, because chickens came first. Yes, birds are reptiles.--Olivia Eliza (talk) 08:30, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , you might be joking but birds are birds, not reptiles (they come from reptiles but they are not reptiles in their own right)Humiebeetalk contribs 19:37, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This discussion has devolved into a discussion about taxonomy so I will chime in and say that in the cladistic sense, birds are indeed dinosaurs and therefore reptiles, but the layman implications of this are of course ridiculous so even in the scientific community there is a distinction between "avian dinosaurs" and "non-avian dinosaurs". Pescavelho (talk) 19:51, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Leucistic/Lucy
My edits changing instances of "leucistic" to "lucy" were reverted, I used "lucy" instead of leucistic as that is how the axolotl is refered to as internally. The edits have now been reverted as "leucistic" is "proper classification", what term do we use, is there a precedent? Pescavelho (talk) 19:11, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * In-game terms > anything else.  Nixinova   T   C   19:12, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Which in-game terms? If you pick one up in a bucket in Bedrock, its tooltip is Bucket of Adult Leucistic Axolotl. Tooltip > whatever in-game term you're talking about. It should be changed back. — Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 06:14, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Blue reference
Shouldn't it be a reference to Wooper, who actually is based off an axolotl? It even has the same "gills" albeit with no arms. - 24.177.121.79 07:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * A personal observation cannot be put in the article. If you have a reliable source that confirms this, then it can be added. Otherwise, no. Amatulic (talk) 12:37, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * On that matter, the existing "reference" isn't an official or reliable source either. The minecraftsuggestions subreddit is fan run, and the developers that are listed as mods have little to no presence there anymore and haven't for years (I know since I used to be a moderator there for awhile). At best, it's only speculation whether they used the suggested idea or not, and instead requires a direct statement from a developer confirming whether it's valid, especially if that suggestion wasn't also put on the feedback website (the official site used for making suggestions, and the only one they can legally use ideas from). Stranded at sea (talk) 16:26, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you creators!
This page is great and I learned how to spawn axolotls to search for the rare blue one! But I do have a question. Does the stone around or above the axolotl need to be original? Like generated versions, so I cant just take some stone and place it back and axolotls wont spawn anymore cause its now an edited block?


 * It is defined by the  tag. TheGreatSpring (talk | contribs) (Tagalog translation) 05:32, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Do Axolotols eat coral blocks?
I captured four Axolotls on Minecraft Bedrock edition for the Nintendo Switch.

I placed them in an "aquarium" which had coral blocks with sea pickles on top of them.

Now the axolotls appear to be eating the coral blocks. Is that correct? – Unsigned comment added by SozMike (talk • contribs) at 00:14, 15 June 2021 (UTC). Sign comments with


 * Axolotls can't do anything to coral blocks. When you say they're being eaten, does that mean they're turning gray? If so, you need to place water next to them for that to not happen – JEC <sub style="color:#f7c">talk @ 00:53, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Damage dealt by axolotls
I saw one attack a guardian (which has 30 HP) fifteen times before the guardian died, implying 2 HP per attack. I'll add that to the article.

I notice that a single axolotl can't kill a drowned; they hit too hard for the axolotl to recover sufficiently by playing dead. But a single axolotl can kill a guardian.

The healing ability is pretty powerful and potentially unbalances the game in some respects. For example, a single axolotl can wear down an elder guardian to death. The elder guardian never fires a laser at it, it just stings the axolotl for minimal damage, and the axolotl can make 2 or 3 attacks before it needs to play dead and recover. Because it heals, and the elder guardian doesn't, the elder guardian eventually and inevitably dies. A monument that happens to have an axolotl in each wing eventually leaves only elder guardian in the penthouse for the player to defeat. This makes it easier to take over a monument. This appears to have happened in the survival game I'm playing, because I haven't reached the wings yet and I'm no longer getting hit with Mining Fatigue. Amatulic (talk) 20:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing this is in Bedrock Edition? Either way, I'm pretty sure that axolotls spawning in ocean monuments is considered a bug, since Mojang mentioned removing it in Java Edition at one point.
 * Ah, I just realized. The part about not getting mining fatigue is probably related to the axolotl's regenerative abilities. If you help kill an axolotl's enemy, they give you regeneration and remove mining fatigue. I'm not sure how long the second one lasts, but I believe that the timing of the first has been added recently. PegasusDust (talk) 04:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's Bedrock Edition.


 * A monument has an open entrance in the water. If that entrance has a path into the wings, an axolotl can spawn outside the monument and find its way in. I don't know if they spawned in the monument or found their way in. When I was clearing water from 3rd level from the top (second from the bottom) a red axolotl came out of the water a few times from one wing. I regret not using my bucket to catch it.


 * My understanding about removing Mining Fatigue is that you need to aid the axolotl in combat, not merely kill an enemy that isn't engaged by any axolotl. There was no axolotl in the penthouse where I killed the top elder guardian. I recall I got hit by Mining Fatigue a couple more times after that but then it ended, and hasn't recurred for many in-game days since then. I'm tempted to switch into creative mode to see if the elder guardians are actually still there, but I don't want to enable cheats, so I'll just have to make my way into the wings as I clear out the water. It's a slow grind, even with a lot of sponges, especially with large tall volumes that span two storeys vertically. I found 3 sponge rooms in this monument. Amatulic (talk) 15:55, 19 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Update: I don't get to play frequently but I did make it down into the wings of my monument and confirmed there are no elder guardians, because axolotls killed them. When I wrote the passage above, I was playing 1.17.0, in which elder guardians (and guardians) did not fire the laser on axolotls, they only stung with the spikes. So a single axolotl, with its ability to heal itself by playing dead, could wear down an elder guardian to death. That is what happened in my monument. I killed the penthouse elder guardian, and coincidentally axolotls killed off the other two a short time later; they must have been working on the elder guardians for a long time without me knowing it.


 * Now in 1.17.10, this situation is no longer possible. Guardians and elder guardians now attack axolotls with their lasers. It takes several axolotls to take down an elder guardian now, because the axolotls generally don't survive more than 3 or 4 laser hits.


 * I have mixed feelings. I'm glad that the axolotls made it easier for me to take over the ocean monument (and I am still clearing out the water; I'm about 2/3 done with the bottom-most level). On the other hand, I was not presented with the level of challenge that the game designers intended. There are two more monuments very close to this one though (this is the "Ocean Monument Ahead" seed from the Bedrock seed picker), so I can always try it again. Amatulic (talk) 04:20, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the edit made to the trivia section on the use of "lucy"
The use of the name "lucy" in the files is more than likely just a joke or play on words given that the actual term is called leucism. In other words, "lucy" was more than likely derived from the term "leucism" rather than being a reference to any mojang employee or minecraft fan. Stranded at sea (talk) 18:00, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That trivia was removed shortly after it was added. Speculation isn't permitted in articles here, and that trivia entry was pure speculation. Amatulic (talk) 18:45, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Java Spawning
I am about 95% sure that spawning in Java requires an opaque block just like bedrock. I put a whole bunch of stone on the bottom of a deep ocean. The light level was zero, and I got zero spawns in 10-20 minutes. As soon as I put another layer of stone 6 blocks above the first layer I starting getting I got 8-10 spawns within minutes. 47.186.92.204 03:41, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
can i have the texture for the render of green axolotol used in history section? --CHEEZE, gromit (talk) 04:48, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Axolotl drops
So an axolotl drops NOTHING when killed with NO XP orbs?! 76.64.55.165 14:57, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Why should it? And you don't get XP from killing mobs that are passive toward the player. Amatulic (talk) 15:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Axolotl despawns out of water?
I cleared out an ocean monument for myself (hard difficulty, Bedrock 1.17). One room at the bottom I filled 1 block deep with water to keep my axolotls. I had half a dozen in there, which I bred from a pair I had caught. I accessed the room via a ladder through the ceiling so the axolotls couldn't escape. Those axolotls have been with me for a long, long time.

Then I mined a 2x2 doorway from the axolotl room into an adjacent room, and put a button on either side of the passageway to keep the water in the first room. The dry room has no exit except into the wet axolotl room. The idea was to allow the axolotls to enter the dry room or return to their wet room at will, simply by passing through the entrance between the rooms.

The axolotls seemed to prefer the dry room for some reason. They would go into it and not return to the wet room unless I lured them in with buckets of fish.

I did some other activities in my monument and on my nearby island for a few in-game days, and when I returned to the axolotl room, they were all gone!

They couldn't escape, so they must have despawned, in spite of me having those guys for months in the water room. When I allowed them access to a dry room from their water room, they disappeared after a few days.

Needless to say, this was unexpected, and not documented. Now if I want more axolotls, I need to hunt for them, or build a farm.

I'm wondering if my opening water barrier (I used buttons, I could have used signs) had anything to do with their inability to return to the water room. I'm willing to bet that extended periods out of water causes them to despawn even if you've bred them and fed them. Amatulic (talk) 23:54, 25 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Axolotls can't survive outside of water for too long (which is documented information), so they died due to getting stuck in the dry room. Stranded at sea (talk) 16:51, 27 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I know they cannot survive out of water. However, these axolotls were free to re-enter the water. Nothing prevented them from doing so. They left the water on their own by passing through an opening, and they could have come back the same way. Also, it seemed they were hanging out in the dry room for far longer than it would take to die from being out of water, so they must have been returning to the water room every so often. Amatulic (talk) 13:22, 28 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Update: I reported the problem in and after a moderator suggested a re-test, it turns out that axolotls don't recognize shallow water (1 block deep) as something to return to if they wander off. They'll pathfind to any water that is deeper. But nothing compels them to return to water that is 1 block deep, which is what I had in my monument, and which is why all my axolotls eventually died. I have edited the article accordingly. Amatulic (talk) 05:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

ze mobs can only be hostile.
tested it. can propide proof.

(sorry for bad engiksh)

Axolotl Morphs
> Blue is the only color variant of axolotls not based on real life.

This is not true. Both blue and cyan axolotls do not exist in any form. Additionally, while golden axolotls do exist, the only gold morphs are golden albinos. Some gold axolotls that match their Minecraft depiction (black eyes instead of pale albino) do technically exist, but these are a very rare and unhealthy mutation that cannot be passed down. DarthMewtwo (talk) 22:19, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know; see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hE4inWXsZc&t=683s showing a live blue axolotl. Or blue-ish. Amatulic (talk) 00:37, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Please view that video more closely - those are GFP leucistic axolotls, which are a pale white or light yellow in normal lighting. GFP is Green Fluorescent Protein, which means these axolotls will glow under blue or black light, and leucistic (misspelled in the label) axolotls are a pale pink or white, as noted in this article. The lighting here is clearly affected by the blue lids on the (minuscule) tubs and there may be some additional blue lighting as well. This video is pure clickbait. DarthMewtwo (talk) 22:40, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I changed the trivia item you referred to by including cyan axolotls. If you see any other problems, feel free to edit the article. Amatulic (talk) 19:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

On the "bred with unstackable item" argument
For multiple times, I added the same trivia saying something like "Axolotl is the only mob bred with a non-stackable item", and every time it was removed after a while. Do you guys think this fact is not worth mentioning, or are there other reasons? Windwend (talk) 07:49, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Had to look back through the history, but the reason was given as: "removed one rather obscure and useless factoid". You should probably take it up with amatulic, the one that made the edit. And unless I missed something, I only saw the trivia added one time, unless there are much older edits. Stranded at sea (talk) 08:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Trivia sections should be cut back or eliminated wherever possible. They aren't collection buckets for random factoids that are better left out or integrated into the article. In this case, the factoid is better suited for the article body. Please refer to MCW:TRIVIA for guidance. Amatulic (talk) 18:48, 2 March 2022 (UTC)