Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard

= Archivable issues =

Freeing up Version template
For: ... I'm going to make copied versions: ... to free up that whole thing from its cascade restriction – the same idea as previously with ItemSprite, discussed in this topic.
 * Module:Version/Numbers, Module:Version and Version
 * Module:Version front page/Numbers, Module:Version front page and Version front page

It won't solve the issue with people clamoring for someone to update the front page, but it will help for updating Minecraft, Pocket Edition, Console Edition and Minecraft launcher (and probably a few others). – Sealbudsman talk/contr 15:19, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * As an alternative to having two near-identical templates that have to be kept in sync, we could change the main page to directors-only protection. -- Orthotopetalk 17:59, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * We could do that. We could also eliminate the front-page-template entirely by embedding the respective variables in the front page, I think. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 19:16, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Because the front page was late being updated, I was researching how it worked when I ran across your updated Template:Version doc saying it wasn't used on the front page...yet it very clearly was in use there. Color me confused! I almost put a note on Majr's talk page in case it was by accident. So I'm guessing I caught it while you were in the middle of coordinated changes. If so, could you please leave a note here to say when you've completed it? Thanks! – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 18:41, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I forgot to mention: The front page still shows 1.1 in the Planned Versions table. I'm not sure who needs to update that. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 18:44, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh my, sorry for the confusion. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 19:16, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure adding a separate template for that is a good idea given it is for the most part only used on the front page, and the other few places tend to be fine waiting a bit for the update. The front page gets the most questions waiting for the update anyways.
 * I think removing the cascading protection is a decent option, though an extra close watch on main page templates would have to be kept. – KnightMiner  · (t) 22:06, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Directly on the page are: Version, FrontPageLink, Minecraft Wiki/edition and Minecraft Wiki/style.
 * Protection cascades further to: Module:Version, Module:Version/Numbers, Module:FrontPageSprite, Module:FrontPageSprite/IDs.
 * If cascade was removed, we could heighten permission on Template:FrontPageLink, module:FrontPageSprite and /IDs, and /edition and /style, and I think that's all. Then only other thing to keep track of would be Template:Version, Module:Version and Module:Version/Numbers. –  Sealbudsman talk/contr 22:29, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Would a good idea be semi-protecting the remainder? From what I've seen so far here anonymous users don't make good edits to templates often, if they even get to them. --Hubry (talk) 22:37, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I doubt that creating a duplicate template for the front page will solve anything because most users who complain about updating the version numbers complain only because the version numbers on the front page aren't updated. And Module:Version front page/Numbers still would need to be edited by admins. | violine1101(Talk) 08:30, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Ideas so far:

To allow more people to update the versions on the front page, we could:
 * change the protection to directors.

And if we want to free up the Version template, instead of using a duplicate template, we could do one of two things:
 * remove cascade from the main page, raise the protections on other transcludes and semi-protect the version template, or
 * hard-code the variables in the page. (rendering the Version template mostly redundant)

Any thoughts? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 15:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * We could have an edit copy for the template, which would be semi-protected and used on the edit copy for the main page. The BlobsPaper.png 03:27, 5 June 2017 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, the only place where the current version numbers are actually used are the Edition pages (Minecraft, Pocket Edition, Console Edition etc). Using hard-coded variables would make the template pretty much redundant, wouldn't it? | violine1101(Talk) 09:39, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Bump. | violine1101(Talk) 18:32, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe you are right about that. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 18:50, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

hmu on twitter @kopshtik if you believe in white power
Some guy is going around different computers and replacing pages with hmu on twitter @kopshtik if you believe in white power. Can someone please block this message from passing submission filters? – Nixinova •   • 05:59, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

CPU-intensive ads
Can we do something about the ads on the Wiki? Currently, the Minecraft Wiki imposes a heavier processor load than the Minecraft game itself! 108.254.144.254 20:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Try contacting Curse; admins do not control the advertising. The BlobsPaper.png 01:11, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed. --Qwerty6811 (talk) 17:46, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

1.12
Someone needs to change the current version on the main page to 1.12, because it came out today. I don't have admin privileges so I can't.

Oakstar519 12:27, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Rule 2. --Pepijn (talk) 14:24, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The user has been doing vandalism even after multiple blocks. An indefinite block should probably be used. The BlobsPaper.png 23:16, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Handled by Orthotope. --Pepijn (talk) 23:47, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Blobs2, please remember that indefblocking an IP address is considered a bad tone because this action, if the address is not static (which means the user isn't switching addresses after each connection), may cause other innocent people to be under the block. Unfortunately, it isn't possible to predict which IP address will be used by a malicious user next time. &mdash; NickTheRed37 (talk) 12:57, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Beam > Mixer
The "Links" section on the left side of this wiki has the Beam account of Minecraft listed. Recently Beam was renamed to Mixer, so it should probably be updated. --Pepijn (talk) 20:59, 9 June 2017 (UTC)


 * . 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:24, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Excessive vandalism. --Pepijn (talk) 16:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Handled by Orthotope. --Pepijn (talk) 20:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Abuse Filter Issue
I attempted to edit Tutorials/Setting up a server to remove information on and the section relating to Evolve (the VPN), as Evolve ceased operations on June 1, 2017, according to their website EvolveHQ. However, I was blocked from removing the section by an edit filter barring new users from removing a section. Seeing that I am not allowed, could one of you remove the information please? Thank you. 1234Iloveguns (talk) 20:17, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * . --Pepijn (talk) 20:22, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Image cacheing
Can anything be done about the image caching taking the better part of a day to refresh? It seems to me that when you upload a new version of a file, that should be propagated out to all caches, but this doesn't happen. Is the length of time we wait totally necessary? Thanks for consideration, – Sealbudsman talk/contr 21:04, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Or maybe there a way to purge an image's cache, that I am missing? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 21:25, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Does mw:Manual:Purge work? -- Orthotopetalk 22:35, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, no. They work in virtually every situation I can think of apart from this, though. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 15:47, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


 * It's cached by cloudflare, so we're stuck with it. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 04:24, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Hmph. Ok, I'm reading about it more, and the situation is acknowledged in MediaWiki's CloudFlare manual at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CloudFlare#HTTP_purge, and reported at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64356: MediaWiki cannot purge single assets cached in CloudFlare. Booooo. –  Sealbudsman talk/contr 15:47, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I wonder if Curse would be willing to throw resources behind getting T64356 straightened out and getting single-file-purge working for cloudflare. It's an open source project after all? And it affects all of Gamepedia. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 15:56, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Please protect cake
Excessive vandalism, particularly people always adding some meme where it's made of diamonds – Sealbudsman talk/contr 14:35, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it's safe now to go ahead and remove the protection... Could you please do so? VeenM64 (talk) 23:22, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The page has been vandalized at least 10 separate times just this year, counting just those vandalisms that meme about diamonds and bedrock and emeralds, alone... The page is a target. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 01:05, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Are you mimicking me with that "..."? VeenM64 (talk) 23:08, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I do that all the time. – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 04:58, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

and also blocked because of block on user
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

Your IP address has been automatically blocked because it was used by another user, who was blocked by Orthotope. The reason given is:

Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Noobsonlyforyou".

The reason given for Noobsonlyforyou's block is "Rule #2: Vandalism"

Start of block: 13:54, 8 July 2017

Expiration of block: 13:54, 12 July 2017

Intended blockee: 54.87.181.129

You may contact or one of the other administrators to discuss the block.

Note that you may not use the "email this user" feature unless you have a valid email address registered in your user preferences and you have not been blocked from using it.

Your current IP address is 54.87.181.129, and the block ID is #17120. Please include all above details in any queries you make.

– Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:51, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Sun Cat wanted me to pass this along. It was surprising that blocking one editor would block another as well? – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:51, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I've had that issue too earlier. It was really weird because my IP address is completely different and I'm in a completely different part of the world than what IP lookup sites give me.
 * Anyways, tell him to log out of Gamepedia and delete all Gamepedia cookies (MCW cookies might be enough, but I've cleared all of them) - I've done that and that fixed it for me. --Hubry(talk) 18:42, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * In their case, it didn't work : ( thanks though – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 18:53, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Some users are sent over an Amazon proxy to reduce page load time, which also changes their ip adress to that proxy. This should only happen for mobile users though, but it sometimes also happens for desktop users. (See also Minecraft Wiki talk:Community portal) | violine1101(Talk) 20:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that, wasn't expecting the autoblock to hit other users as well. Should be fixed now. -- Orthotopetalk 20:28, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Sun Cat (talk) 20:35, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Very nice thanks. One last question: the above message says the block expires July 6. Yet the user was given a 1 month block on July 5? Weird? – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 20:36, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Autoblocks only last 24 hours; this is to minimize the chances of affecting other users if the originally blocked user is on a dynamic IP address. -- Orthotopetalk 21:03, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Restore Fern.png
A few days ago File:Fern.png was deleted under the premise of it being an unused file. You may not have known, but that image was the only static image available for ferns. Therefore I kindly request that you restore that unfortunate file. VeenM64 (talk) 23:39, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Orthotopetalk 00:01, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Bots not showing as bots
Bots such as are not showing up as bots in edit logs and Special:RecentChanges, aka b is not showing next to the edit which means "Show/hide bots" does nothing at all. Can someone tag bots as bots? – Nixinova   04:27, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Bots don't get flagged as such automatically, and if no one requests a bot flag for them, chances are they'll go without. I've flagged Ffbot; if there are others which need the flag, please list them here and I'll flag them as well (this goes for the future as well). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:22, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * (Also note that the bot flag doesn't apply retroactively: while future edits will be flagged as bot edits, edits which were made before the flag was added are still considered non-bot edits.) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:23, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Actually I have applied for the bot tag, while Majr rejected that.-- Ff98sha (talk) 05:53, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * While he can (and should) correct me if I'm misinterpreting his intent, my reading of your request and the subsequent discussion was that the refusal was about having your bot do extra tasks, rather than having it flagged as a bot. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:39, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Also, if the request was rejected to get the bot right, the correct thing to do would be to not make contributions using the bot instead of making them without the tag. I cannot imagine any reason why he would want your bot to operate without the bot tag.
 * What exactly is the bots purpose anyways? Most of the contributions I have seen are useless whitespace changes or other tweaks that do not affect the final rendered page. Both of these things are normally fine to do as general fixes while performing other actions but are rather pointless on their own. – KnightMiner  · (t) 00:02, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

https: removal
Okay, what the heck is happening? Why are all the https:'s getting removed? – Nixinova   19:40, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * See here, here and here. | violine1101(Talk) 21:19, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Translation redirect cleanup
A lot of translation redirects need deletion. See here. – Nixinova   04:35, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


 * . –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 06:10, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Account merge
I recently discovered my old account User:HeroBrineNZK. There is about a year's gap between the last edit on there and the first edit on this account. Is there a way to merge the accounts? – Nixinova   04:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Same here, with my old account User:LRGuanzon. I was not able to log in to my old account due to a Curse account error. Any ways to merge our accounts? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– <span class="gamepedia_pro_user" style="font-weight:700">Dentedharp90041 tc 09:16, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Only Curse can merge accounts. Game widow, what do you think on this? —  NickTheRed37</b> (talk | RU) 07:12, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * All you need to do is submit a support ticket to Gamepedia. (Why hasn't anybody mentioned this yet?) VeenM64 (talk) 19:40, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– <span class="gamepedia_pro_user" style="font-weight:700">Dentedharp90041 tc 15:10, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

New Language Persian
Requesting new Language section, Persian (fa - فارسی) Habedi (talk) 09:01, 23 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello. The Persian (Farsi) translation project did exist before, but has been deleted by Majr (the main administrator of Minecraft Wiki) on July 9 as part of the recent cleanup of translation projects. You need to consult this question with him, but basically what you need is to translate the main page to Persian, and that’s the only requirement so far. Once the main page is translated, a brand new wiki can be opened. —  NickTheRed37</b> (talk | RU) 16:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Hungarian Wiki
Nearly a month ago, Emberbot changed the Hungarian wiki's main page that only admins can edit it. It does not matter if you have an active admin on the wiki. But because there are no, so there are only foreign admins can change it.

Can anyone change that anyone can edit it? Don't worry for vandalism, because there are few who edit (unfortunately) --GDK555 (talk) 19:19, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

youtu.be banned
When I went to edit my userpage, I got the following edit message when submitting it: <pre style="font-family: sans-serif; background-color: lightcyan;"> • The text you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to a blacklisted external site.

• The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be • The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be/59EHuVsXYWc • The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be/mA8jsYzpcFQ For some reason, youtu.be links are blacklisted, when youtube.com links aren't. Why is this? – Nixinova   05:05, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Almost every URL shortener is prohibited here, as there is no reason to use them. Saving a couple of characters does not make any significant difference, and they hide the true destination of links. -- Orthotopetalk 10:36, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Can youtu.be in particular be reconsidered? From what I'm aware, youtu.be never links to anything except a YouTube video, and the part after the slash is the video ID - the same ID used by the full link. Even if it is not unblocked, it is YouTube's default method of sharing a link to a YouTube video, so it will continue to cause confusion. If it isn't removed from the spam filter, then can the spam filter warning be changed to explain that URL shorteners are blocked, and maybe link to this noticeboard or elsewhere with the reasoning and how to get the full URL? NickNackGus (talk) 03:51, 3 September 2017 (UTC)


 * While I will agree its Youtube's default method of sharing, we really have no reason to make an exception here, especially since it just adds one more way to link the videos which will certainly cause a disagreement over consistency in the future. If needed, you can always type video ID if the fewer characters are so important. – KnightMiner  · (t) 19:03, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

HTTPS Interwiki conversation
Recently, Gamepedia made all of their wikis HTTPS for all users. So for this reason, I request that Gamepedia interwikis be updated: ftb, gphelp, and all of the language-specific versions of the Minecraft Wikis. Thanks. -Xbony2 (talk) 11:15, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * All the gamepedia interwikis are already https. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 11:19, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Err, according to Special:Interwiki, the URL used for "ftb" is "//ftb.gamepedia.com/$1" (and the others in the same situation). It should be changed to "https://ftb.gamepedia.com/$1", for consistency if anything else. -Xbony2 (talk) 19:46, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Links with no protocol specified will use the same protocol as the current page. ftb:FTB_Wiki uses an https link for me. -- Orthotopetalk 21:50, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * It's still rather silly that it's registered in an obscure way that none of the other wikis are registered like :P having no protocol specified is nonstandard and unconventional as far as interwikis go, unless they have to, which they did temporarily. -Xbony2 (talk) 22:28, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Rule 2 @ Mooshroom. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– <span class="gamepedia_pro_user" style="font-weight:700">Dentedharp90041 tc 15:05, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Gamepedia migration issues
Requesting sysop-level protection of the Gamepedia migration issues page. With the transition to Gamepedia being made about 4 years ago, this page became something like an archive. Thanks in advance. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 16:16, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Bumping the topic. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 15:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Page has been protected since November. – KnightMiner  · (t) 17:33, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, sorry, thanks for letting me know. Dinoguy1000 should consider replying to respective topics when solving issues (or maybe he didn’t know about this section?) —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 16:25, 19 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I went through and addressed a bunch of stuff reported here and on the community portal at around that time; I didn't think it was worth the time to respond to each item individually. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:52, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Adding confirmation tweet to 1.13 page
I noticed Badprenum share a tweet from Dinnerbone on the forums about the upcoming change in block metadata. Because the 1.13 wiki page only contained a quote from Grumm dated from March about him working on it I concluded that this specific (more recent) confirmation about the removal of block data values would be useful. The system decided otherwise & blocked me based on a keyword. I was trying to add the following reference to the Block metadata section: ShelLuser (talk) 16:15, 7 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Added. The Reddit link in the previous reference triggers the abuse filter for any new users. Shouldn't affect you in the future, given the number of edits you now have. -- Orthotopetalk 21:44, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Appreciate the quick feedback; it really motivates. - ShelLuser (talk) 22:19, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

IP addresses are spamming the pages
I recommend that the rule #2 should pop up when an IP address will try to edit a page, or similar. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– <span class="gamepedia_pro_user" style="font-weight:700">Dentedharp90041 tc 09:33, 8 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Do you suggest installing a new abuse filter in order to make an IP address think thrice before editing? —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 10:46, 8 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, as it could reduce the spam of IP addresses. I also suggest that the "Save page" button will be disabled unless "Show preview" or "Show changes" is clicked so they won't continuously edit pages if they made an error in their edits, thus, making them think another time to really reduce spam. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tc 10:55, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Hungarian admin request
I returned to edit the Hungarian Minecraft Wiki again. Since I was inactive for 1.5 years, so I suggest an another person get admin rights to avoid inactivation. I selected User:GDK555 for this, because he is the most active Hungarian editor who makes useful edits. Martin200005 (talk) 16:27, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Delete subpages of old account
Can someone please delete all the subpages of my old account at User:LRGuanzon? That account has been merged to my current account. Thanks in advance! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">

Dentedharp90041tc 17:44, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

CSS fixes
Please change  in MediaWiki:Hydra.css to   since the 1.29 upgrade seems to have changed the sidebar's html structure, as well as the spacing between the portals (collapsible lists) in the sidebar. The spacing can be undone by adding margin-top: 0px !important; } to Hydra.css. (I'm not sure whether the  is really needed, it probably will work without as well.) If this change is made, please also change this on the other Minecraft wikis, especially the ones that don't have any active admins. | violine1101(Talk) 13:23, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) mw-panel h3 {
 * Wait, Special:Diff/1135779 seems to have caused this, and this edit was done after the upgrade. Am I missing something? | violine1101(Talk) 13:28, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, it was added as a result of the upgrade. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 13:30, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I noticed that, but because of it, the portals dividers disappeared. Or are they there for you? | violine1101(Talk) 13:49, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The dividers looks fine. There were two before, which is why the selector was changed. If you're using the collapsible portal extension, the borders were removed. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 00:41, 12 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Why? | violine1101(Talk) 08:18, 12 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I dunno, ask the developer. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 09:32, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Replacing admins
, havent edited in 4 years,  and hasn't in 6. Isn't it time to replace them? – Nixinova   21:18, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * And has not edited for three years. The BlobsPaper.png 21:54, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The current activity of four administrators (Majr, Orthotope, Goandgoo and Dinoguy1000, although the latter went missing for 4 days except yesterday) doesn’t pose any problems. But, if a new admin is ever required, I would directly go for assigning KnightMiner as the most fitting user for this role.
 * And, for the sake of interest, I will say how Russian wiki has solved the problem of inactive admins in the last 3.5 years (if you’re not interested, skip this paragraph). In the last 2013, most of the Russian administration’s veteran members (led by HEKP0H) practically disappeared, leaving only one administrator with somewhat stable activity (that is AttemptToCallNil, then still known as GreenStone). Four admins experienced some periodic activity since then (SYSanin235, Shahter40, Bloodhit and Atributz, and also Norrius, a former admin who was resigned in 2013 by his own request); they all went inactive, with the exception of Atributz, who returned in early 2015 and, after some inactivity, in recent months. Ivan-r was appointed via his own request by Wynthyst in December 2013 (apparently when AttemptToCallNil went inactive for a short time), right now he is periodically active. AttemptToCallNil was later granted bureaucrat rights in July 2014. After Ivan-r, four new administrators were appointed by the new bureaucrat: Asassin 1 (January 2015), BloodCaster (January 2017, after a two-year hiatus; both on my suggestion) and, on last July, Dand0 and me. Last month AttemptToCallNil initiated an unusual procedure: he chose eight candidates (one was later discarded immediately as an unreliable one) for administrator status, and opened votes for them. The result was appointment of the two last administrators. And now, at <s title="Corrected by author on 14:41, 14 August 2017 (UTC)">four five continuously active and two partially active administrators, Russian administration is probably the largest on Minecraft Wiki.
 * Anyway, back to the English wiki. The wiki’s policy states that

"Administrative rights are given to users based on them making exceptional contributions to the wiki, rather than by request. An exception is on other languages of the Minecraft Wiki which have few or no admins, in which case a request is likely to be accepted."

- Minecraft Wiki:Directors


 * This point of view is far from being implemented practically. By this point of view, KnightMiner should be already appointed an administrator by Majr or Dinoguy1000 without any request, but he isn’t, and any request for appointing KnightMiner would be rejected based on this policy, even if he is a good candidate for this. Also, the last administrator was appointed on April 2014 (that was Goandgoo), which makes the current administration seem a little bit old, unlike the Russian wiki’s administration, which has four new members assigned since that period, with one in 2015 and, after two years, a record number of three in 2017.
 * In short: I’m neutral on this topic, but leaning towards appointing KnightMiner, and also changing the policy. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:51, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Side note: I'm surprised how many inactive admins on the Russian wiki actually still have their rights. On the German wiki, an admin is asked to retire if they are inactive for a few months. (See here. The actual founders of the wiki still have their rights, and Oliver Scholz is still involved with the wiki although he doesn't edit regularily.) Also,

"and Dinoguy1000, although the latter went missing for 4 days except yesterday"

- BabylonAS


 * What's wrong with being away for four days? | violine1101(Talk) 15:22, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Nothing is wrong. It is unusual to be active every day.
 * BabylonAS@undefined I would support giving administrative rights to . The BlobsPaper.png 16:33, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I would hardly describe my inactivity as "going missing"; I can still be reached via my talk page here, email, or on Discord for those who want to look me up there. Other than that, I make no particular effort to maintain any particular level of activity here, both because generally I only edit when I notice something needs fixed or want to reply in a discussion, and because I have to fight with internet connectivity issues on my laptop that make wiki editing far more of a pain than it should be.
 * I've stated in the past that I have no problem with promoting users to admin by community request, in spite of the guidance on MCW:Directors, since that guidance is quite old (though of course, Gamepedia staff would have final say on whether that policy should still be enforced, and I'd abide by their decision in that case). Similarly I wouldn't be opposed to demoting inactive admins after a suitable period of time (I'd default to one year with no edits or log actions performed), assuming notice has been given to the editor and a week or so provided for them to view and respond if they wish. In both cases all that's required is to ping me to ensure I see the discussion.
 * Lastly, if is interested in the admin position, I'll promote him; I certainly have no objections to that recommendation myself. 「 ディノ 奴  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 11:30, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I have no issue with KnightMiner being an admin. I do have an issue with pointlessly appointing admins when they aren't needed. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 13:35, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * But, judging by Special:ActiveUsers, KnightMiner has only made 15 edits in 30 days (with only 5 edits in August). Other viable candidates, as I see, may be Sealbudsman or BDJP007301 (I personally lean to the former). LauraFi may be also a good candidate (and, if appointed, would be the first female administrator in a long time, if ever) but she only has made seven edits in this entire year (exempting a happy birthday message on [ my profile]), so I won’t push her candidature too much right now. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:54, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Edit count is and should never be the only criterion. Also, why do we need more admins in the first place? | violine1101(Talk) 15:52, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * While I wouldn't decline admin, I don't think I would do much with it if it were given to me. My personal life has gotten much more busy lately. See my edit history, I've definitely had to slow way down. – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:34, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not entirely sure we need more administrators as well. Sure, we have several inactive admins, but that has been the case for awhile without the current ones being overwhelmed to my knowledge. I don't see the need of appointing admins simply to have more admins at this current time. Instead, I'd focus on if a user frequently makes contributions that would benefit from those rights.
 * On the topic of me being an administrator, while I would not be opposed to being appointed and I have had uses for the rights in the past, I am not sure how beneficial it would be at this moment. Most of what I'd do with the rights is technical stuff which is pretty well covered by Majr or Dinoguy already, both of whom are a bit more active than I am as well. – KnightMiner  · (t) 23:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree with KnightMiner, we don't need more admins. – LauraFi - talk  01:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Mojang flair for User:Johanaronson
Hello! HelenAngel confirms that user:Johanaronson is the real Johan Aronson (Lead Pixel Designer) from Mojang (Special:Diff/1137758). Can he get the Mojang flair? – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 18:30, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * . 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:46, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Unused redirect
All those broken redirects also unused (verified by me). May anybody delete it? — RDmitriyS (talk) 20:01, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Main Page style issues
The Main Page, on mobile view, looks like the page in desktop view, thus overflowing the page. This issue was caused by the MediaWiki upgrade, I guess. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">Dentedharp90041tce 09:31, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, the update removed the mf IDs, so the mobile site was getting the full desktop page. Also, fix the wikitext in your signature. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 11:07, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Fixed :) <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 13:16, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * In mobile view, the sidebar items aren't categorized. They are a bit messy.  a20001017 Talk 11:12, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Navboxes in mobile view
With the new update, navboxes become completely invisible on the mobile view, not just when transcluded, but also on the template page. Can an admin fix this? The BlobsPaper.png 14:33, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Could you please create Church as a redirect to Village structures?
Page is protected from creation, that's why I'm asking. VeenM64 (talk) 22:56, 17 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Reduced protection level. Not sure how necessary this redirect is, since I can't find it used in any of the game files, but we have similar ones for most of the other buildings. -- Orthotopetalk 00:33, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Please be more specific: What were you unable to find? VeenM64 (talk) 01:09, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I meant that I don't see the term 'church' used in the game anywhere. Some structures are named in various game files (such as the loot table for the village blacksmith), but this one does not seem to have an 'official' name. -- Orthotopetalk 03:09, 2 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I created the page. The BlobsPaper.png 01:36, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Protect the style guide
As a response to this act of vandalism on the style guide, I request an autoconfirmed-level protection of that critical guideline page. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 08:06, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Have there been many frequent attacks, or was it just that one? The BlobsPaper.png 14:19, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


 * There have been quite a few over the last couple of years. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 05:45, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The issue has been handled by xbony2 in September. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 15:31, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

127.0.0.1
Somehow 127.0.0.1 is its own unique IP address? This shouldn't happen. Special:Contributions/127.0.0.1 – Nixinova   21:47, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess an anonymous user of where this server is hosted has edited in this wiki. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 10:01, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Also check User talk:127.0.0.1 and wikipedia:User:127.0.0.1 for more info. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 10:04, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

in 1.13,command of execute
somebody just forget in /execute store,and this turely exist in References Meifray (talk) 23:09, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The source was edited, I will update the page. --Pepijn (talk) 23:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

About /tickingarea

 * I am an anonymous user from Chinese Minecraft Wiki.

Could you please add the descripsion of into Command page？--123.15.129.9 09:55, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * In fact, your account can be used in ALL Gamepedia projects. There's no need to be ashame of logging in here.  a20001017 Talk 12:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I think the user meant they do not have an account, but sometimes edited the Chinese Minecraft Wiki anonymously. -Xbony2 (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 13:39, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * , you are free to create an account. :) <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 13:49, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * But I heard that create a Gamepedia account must support by identifying code of ReCaptcha.But now, this serve isn't available in our country because of the policy and law of our government.--123.15.129.9 02:56, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Also,the latest release of Pocket Edition was 1.1.6,but the English Wiki doesn't have the information of this version whether main page.

Recursive spam @ Commands & undoing my undos. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 04:20, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes please! 49.199.64.83@undefined THERE IS NO TROLLING COMMAND!! STOP. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 04:23, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 *  WARNING : The same anonymous user with similar IP has come back to spam our pages again! (source) <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 05:55, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Small edit war over Pocket Edition 1.1.6
There seems to be a minor edit war developing over whether there is a Pocket Edition 1.1.6 update. In an exchange I had with user, he reported that this update number was used in a special Store panel (picture) shown only to Chinese users. (The notice reportedly informs them that they will not receive the 1.2 or later updates in China.) This is apparently the notice mentioned in the August 17 Content Update changelog, which carries no update version number. I'm told the 1.1.6 version number does not appear on the main menu in China and there doesn't seem to be any evidence of it in the usual authoritative sources. Certain users have attempted to create a page for 1.1.6 and link it into the version chain, while other users have attempted to undo the link and mark the page for deletion. As a result, these pages are pingponging without discussion toward reaching a consensus.

The main problem is the August 17 Content Update changelog. It has no version number because it only updates Marketplace items; there was no change to the game. Someone said this was made possible by the 1.1.5 update making the Marketplace content purely data-driven, specifically so that new Marketplace offerings could be released between game updates. We haven't seen a purely content update before and therefore have no consensus on how—or even whether—to document it in the wiki. I think it's likely these updates will happen very frequently, so documenting them would be a burdensome task. Not only that, it would be uncomfortably close to advertising since these are content products being sold by third parties. I believe it would be helpful for the admins to weigh in on this question, and that it would put an end to the budding edit war. --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 09:03, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * A lil' suggestion: Move the page to Pocket Edition August 17, 2017 or similar, since the update has no specific version number. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 09:11, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Or better yet, move all Marketplace content (that was not added with a version update) to the Marketplace page, like what has been done on the Realms page. -BDJP (t 13:43, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Section removal
There is a section removal on Reactor Core, I can't remove it myself--66.50.161.108 21:08, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Done apparently. -Xbony2 (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 22:20, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:Sprites broke
They all broke. Probably because of a change in Module:Sprite? File:Broken Sprites.png <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:14, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Probably because of a change in a page which hasn't been edited since the start of the year? No it's more likely that the widgets extension has been uninstalled, relating to gamepedia being down no doubt. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 11:32, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * "sorry but widgets had to be disabled on all wikis due to some issues discovered last night" according to Game widow. She's not willing to give an ETA but it probably won't be long. -Xbony2 (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 12:35, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Used Reactor core
In the Nether reactor core page, They replaced the Used reactor core with an etho slab, can someone fix this? I'll give even more thanks to an admin--66.50.161.108 21:12, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Reverted--66.50.161.108 21:12, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Protection requestss
Better Together Update and Polar Bear are both getting a lot of vandalism. – Nixinova   20:30, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

The time allocated for running scripts has expired.
Found at Minecraft Wiki:Projects/Mob Statues (scroll down). <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 10:54, 27 August 2017 (UTC)


 * That page is far too big. And frankly can with stop with the useless "blueprint" projects? This is tutorial-level content that really doesn't belong on the wiki, and will otherwise forever stay as an unused project. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 11:09, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Move files to Gamepedia Commons
Can an admin (or someone) please move the following files to Gamepedia Commons? I don't know how. I will use these files for my sandbox, for Help:Standardized Views. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 04:50, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The easiest way would just be uploading the files in this wiki too. But one way or another, please fix the numberation fail while doing that. File 1.5 should be File 2 but was just uploaded later, so it should be File 1 to File 10 together.  HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 05:12, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh okay, thanks! I will just be uploading the files here :) <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 05:42, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Gamepedia commons is for files which are generic and useful to any wiki. Those files are MC-specific so are best uploaded here, as this wiki should be available as a local commons for all MCW languages. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 03:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Violating MCW:Wiki rules. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 13:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * That user hasn't done any serious vandalism, and was probably just test-editing. Please unblock. VeenM64 (talk) 16:54, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * A part of the sentence was deleted, which may be clarified as vandalism. But either way, the period appears to be too long. Some time AttemptToCallNil on the Russian wiki began blocking IP vandals that only made a single edit for 2 hours (some sort of a “warning” block), while the same thing here is enough to warrant a three-day block. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 07:34, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The abuse filter had also caught a number of significantly more destructive attempted edits, which factored into the block length. If a well-intentioned user wants to figure out how to edit a wiki, they have several non-disruptive options, including the sandbox and the 'show preview' button. -- Orthotopetalk 10:25, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Currently we (the Russian wiki) also have a sandbox. Also, it is important to see a difference between a test edit and intentional vandalism. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 09:05, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

A suggest
Can put some link of templates or the category of the templates etc. in the main page. It may be useful.--Wth213 (talk) 00:28, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The category is only useful for editors.
 * Also, this page is generally for reporting problems. Discussions belong here. The BlobsPaper.png 16:57, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism-only account. – Nixinova   02:10, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

User Talk Page
I can't create a user talk page due to my account's age. Can I be helped? Ultracombojago (talk) 22:07, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * If an abuse filter is preventing you from creating a talk page (or any page), try again when you are autoconfirmed. The BlobsPaper.png 00:53, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

An IP user created 1.12.2
It's not yet released. Please someone delete the page? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:16, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I redirected this page. -- Beans1512 Talk / Contribs 11:25, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:58, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Violating MCW:Wiki rules. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 12:01, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Please do an action! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 12:20, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 12:25, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Add Themogminer to the list of Mojang employees in MediaWiki:Common.css
Just like this: /* Add to known Mojang employee userlinks:  */ .mw-userlink[title="User:Dinnerbone"], .mw-userlink[title="User:HelenAngel"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Jeb"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Jeb mojang"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Johanaronson"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Jonkagstrom47437"], .mw-userlink[title="User:MarcWatson"], .mw-userlink[title="User:MidnightEnforcer"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Minecraft Staff"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Mojang tommo"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Neon Master"], .mw-userlink[title="User:ProfMobius"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Shoghicp"], .mw-userlink[title="User:C418bla"], .mw-userlink[title="User:RazzleberryFox"], .mw-userlink[title="User:ExcitedZe"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Themogminer"] { padding-left: 17px; background: url(https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/media/minecraft.gamepedia.com/thumb/a/ad/Mojang_logo.svg/14px-Mojang_logo.svg.png) no-repeat left center; } &#58;D <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:38, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * He's not a Mojang employee though, so he should go a bit lower, next to EvilSeph and Tahg instead, as a past employee. --Hubry (talk) 12:35, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I haven't checked his real page to check if he is still an employee. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 14:04, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Is there verification that this user account is the real actual Ryan Holtz? – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:13, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * There is, he tweeted about it. It also seems he's employed by Other Ocean Interactive (at least according to his tweet about the 3DS credits) - in this case, he might actually qualify for a different icon next to his name than the grey Mojang logo. --Hubry (talk) 17:33, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I see, good.
 * I like the idea of another flair representing employees of contracted companies, or independent contractors, working on minecraft. What about Grass.png ? –  Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 18:48, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I like that icon, espacially for employees working for Minecraft on different companies :D <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 10:30, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

RazzleberryFox flair
Can we make the user account flair for User:RazzleberryFox (Mariana Graham's account) gray, since she's left the company? Thanks! – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:17, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Could we please? Thanks! – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 00:56, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Xbox One version number outdated
Because the first version of Bedrock Edition was released yesterday, can an admin please update Module:Version/Numbers to the following code? Also, Apple TV Edition isn't updated to Bedrock Edition 1.2 yet. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:35, 21 September 2017 (UTC) <pre class="mw-script"> -- Set server versions to "nil" if they are the same as the client version -- Set development versions to an empty string when there is no development version return { -- Java Edition ['classic'] = { '0.30', prefix = 'Classic' }, ['classic-server'] = { '1.1.2', prefix = 'Classic' }, ['pc'] = '1.12.2', ['pc-server'] = nil, ['weekly'] = '', ['weekly-server'] = nil, ['launcher'] = { '2.0.934', prefix = 'Launcher' }, -- Bedrock Edition ['android'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['android-snap'] = { '', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['ios'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['fireos'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['firetv'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['windows10'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['windows10-snap'] = { '', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['gearvr'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['xbone'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['xbone-snap'] = { '', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, -- Pocket Edition ['windowsphone'] = { '0.16.2', prefix = 'PE Alpha' }, ['appletv'] = { '1.1.5', prefix = 'PE' }, -- Console Edition ['xbox'] = { 'TU56', prefix = 'Console' }, ['ps3'] = { '1.56', prefix = 'Console' }, ['ps4'] = { '1.55', prefix = 'Console' }, ['psvita'] = { '1.55', prefix = 'Console' }, ['wiiu'] = { 'Patch 26', prefix = 'Console' }, ['nswitch'] = { 'Patch 6', prefix = 'Console' }, }


 * Hello? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 14:14, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Uhm? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 12:05, 23 September 2017 (UTC)


 * . The page is directors-level protected, which means only administrators of any Minecraft Wiki language section can edit it. Right now it is needed to update the main page, right? —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:19, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, because two editions are already released, but not yet updated in the main page. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 14:34, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


 * The update caused a 404 error, because Template:Version link is not yet updated for Bedrock Edition. Please update it to the following code? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 15:00, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

<pre class="mw-script"> |


 * @: Template:Version link would break with that code. Also it seems like the template is working well. But Module:Version need to be updated  HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 18:56, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * PE 1.1.5 works, but Bedrock 1.2 doesn't. Is there any other way to add support to Bedrock Edition? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 19:08, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I found what is wrong with your code. There is a check for  but it finds not only "Bedrock" but also "Beta". Could you just update your code to prevent that?   HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 19:12, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Here you go. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 19:15, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

<pre class="mw-script"> |


 * HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 19:19, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Update the Main page
Many edits have been done on its editcopy, so the main page is already outdated (no New Nintendo 3DS Edition, Bedrock Edition, etc). See also: [ Diff with Main Page] <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 13:41, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Renewable Resources update for PE 1.2
With the release of Minecraft PE 1.2, the PE-specific statements in Renewable resource no longer apply. The section can be removed.

The console section may also need to be reviewed with the console edition updates.

47.188.73.79 15:18, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism-only account. See also: Special:Contributions/Mishmoshkeel21 <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 16:30, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 14:11, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * If this got rejected, please reconsider. They edited a userpage, deleted other people's responses on the Minecraft wiki talk page and left a random note on my talk page.--Pepijn (talk) 18:12, 4 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Blocked for 2 weeks. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 21:20, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Forgotten section
You admins should take a close look at the section issues with responsive style at small sizes; it seems to have been relatively ignored lately. VeenM64 <em class="plainlinks" style="margin-left: 0.5em; font-size: 90%;">(talk • contribs • [ logs]) 🐷🥕☮️ 21:16, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Just replied to it. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 16:11, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:Version says Bedrock Edition 1.2 outdated
Version says that is outdated, although it isn't. To test it out: Or am I doing something wrong? <span style="font-family:'Open Sans',sans-serif;font-size:90%">– 16:20, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You are doing something wrong. The template checked for Java Edition because you had not specified the edition.
 * {| class="wikitable"

! Java !! Bedrock
 * }
 * Use this instead and it's works.  HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 16:46, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 17:16, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * }
 * Use this instead and it's works.  HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 16:46, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 17:16, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * }
 * Use this instead and it's works.  HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 16:46, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 17:16, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Link to profanity and obscenity
In this edit, added a link to a Hastebin copy of the file Minecraft (Bedrock) 1.2 uses to censor words in chat. I felt it was inappropriate (sensitive kids might follow the link, vandals might cite it as a license to make similar links), unnecessary (since when do we link to updated program files from our history pages?), and a possible a violation of Gamepedia's TOS (indirectly adding profanity and obscenity, linking to material that violates copyright). When I removed it, Oldosfan reverted it with the edit summary "If something is a gray area, it stays up until told to go down *by the admins*". I don't think there's any such rule, and wp:Be Bold authorizes what I did. Am I wrong? And secondly, should the link should stay? --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 14:11, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * If something "is a gray area", there needs to be a damn good argument for including it in an article, and it being a "gray area" that "the admins" haven't struck down isn't such an argument. Or to put it more simply: if your only argument for including something in an article is that it isn't explicitly against the rules, you have no argument. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:02, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Slow Gamepedia
Note: I posted here because I cannot open Gamepedia Help Wiki.

Gamepedia becomes slow now, probably due to Gamepedia AWS Migration? Also, checking the console log, it shows these lines of log:

I don't think that Gamepedia Help Wiki has already migrated to AWS. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 07:30, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You can contact Curse on the Minecraft wiki. The BlobsPaper.png 14:54, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Violating Rule #2 17 times. ''See also: [ Revision history of "Crafting"] <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 14:50, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I banned them for a month, which is abnormally long, but said user was abnormally persistent in vandalizing. -Xbony2 (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 21:51, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, 17 edits, but just in one day. This may have been a dynamic IP address, which would make a long block such as this one useless. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 15:38, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but if not, the kid who vandalized the page will find something else to do and forget all about it. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 16:33, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Corrupt database
Trying to view old history of Version history, but returned this error code.

Sources: File:Dentedharp90041 image 1.png, File:Dentedharp90041 video 1.mp4 <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 17:19, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Education Edition: remove unjustified protection
That page, which has had many beneficial IP edits in the past, was recently the site of a small edit war. The result? An infinite semi-protection under the reason "Excessive vandalism". Admins, I request that you please remove the protection and stop abusing your powers. A mishap with just one user does not warrant that kind of protection. VeenM64 <em class="plainlinks" style="margin-left: 0.5em; font-size: 90%;">(talk • contribs • [ logs]) 🐷🥕☮️ 19:50, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * That seems a bit reactive; perhaps the admins are being overprotective, but I would hardly call that an abuse of power. It's a semi-protection, it's not like the admins banned someone because they thought they had a stupid username. That said it would probably be okay to unprotect it (and if no admin says no or does it for me, I'll do it as part of my GRASP duties). -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't call this "abusing your powers" (which is quite an over-dramatic statement IMO), but as far as I can see the protection can probably be removed now. --Pepijn (talk) 22:01, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Orthotope removed the protection, so there. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 00:07, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

"User page" navigation button redirects to the "Profile" page while NOT viewing UserProfile namespace
When you're on your own User talk page or the User page itself, the left navigation button for "User page" redirects you to your "Profile" page. I expect that the User namespace is set to automatically redirect to the UserProfile one, which I understand, but the navigation buttons should not redirect because the profile already has its own navigation button and it would be misleading. The "Profile" button currently targets  which is correct. The "User page" button should be changed to target, instead of   as it is being redirected to a different page than it claims. This only applies while you're not viewing the UserProfile namespace itself however. Because the "User page" button will only correctly lead to the actual user page, when viewed from the page it is redirecting to. It's not really much of an issue, but it is a bit misleading and I guess it requires an administrator level to fix. What do you guys think about this? Jack McKalling (talk) 13:39, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Change "Page Type" under "Public Profile" in your Preferences. --Pepijn (talk) 14:03, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * That does workaround the misleading buttons, thanks. But it requires using a different preference setting. Is it not possible to address the issue (admins), or am I nitpicking with this? Jack McKalling (talk) 14:16, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Either your default user page is a user profile or user wiki; it does not vary depending on how you get there, unless you manually put  or   in a link. However, the links in the sidebar cannot be edited. The BlobsPaper.png 14:24, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know if you understood my problem or not, but it's not true what you're stating, Blobs. It does vary, as that's exactly the issue, or are you trying to say that you cannot reproduce it? The links in the sidebar have nothing to do with the navigation buttons as far as I'm aware. The default user page can indeed be either my profile or wiki page, but that was already said/implied. As a resolve I've already set my user page as the default one over my profile, so this is not an issue anymore for me in this setting, but I'm still wondering whether the issue will still be considered under the other one. Jack McKalling (talk) 12:46, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Account deleting
I request deleting my account, because I no longer edit on the wiki (both English and Hungarian). I don't know User:GDK555 is still active, but if yes, I want to promote him/her to admin on Hungarian wiki. Martin200005 (talk) 17:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Why not just not use your account? That's what most people do. GDK555 doesn't look like they've been particularly inactive, unfortunately. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 21:12, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Update Steve, Alex and Herobrine
There are new versions available for File:Alex.png, File:Steve.png and File:Herobrine.png. As the latter two are both protected I request one of the admins to perform the upload. I won't change Alex until Steve is updated, otherwise the animation on The Player would get even worse. Files can be found on the German wiki: de:Datei:Alex.png, de:Datei:Steve.png and de:Datei:Herobrine.png. Both Alex and Steve need an update as Steve is currently a bit larger wich makes the animation on The Player quite shaky. Herobrine on the other hand features a larger error, the goatee doesn't belong to the skin as can be proven by obtains his skull via /give @p skull 1 3 {SkullOwner:MHF_Herobrine}. – Fusseel 19:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Can an admin please update the images? This request has been here for two weeks now and uploading three images really doesn’t take a whole lot of time and isn’t a hard job to do either. – Fusseel 16:50, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * A better solution would be to lower the upload protection to an autoconfirmed user level. This will allow Fusseel to claim the credit he deserves, and will still prevent issues such as IP spamming. VeenM64 <em class="plainlinks" style="margin-left: 0.5em; font-size: 90%;">(talk • contribs • [ logs]) 🐷🥕☮️ 17:52, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Protections lowered. Have at thee! 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:32, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, I’ve updated the files. Protection may be applied again as no further updates should be necessary in the near future and the files had been a target for vandalism in the past. – Fusseel 23:59, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * They're fine at the lower level unless and until vandalism becomes a problem again. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 20:10, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, how I miss editing this wiki sometimes. It's been a long time.
 * In one of my fly-by checks on the Herobrine page, of which I still feel quite proud of facilitating and check every few months or so, I saw this change. I do not understand why this "MHF_Herobrine" user is being considered canon for Herobrine appearances. all appearances during the stream, the creepypasta and Mojang adoptions feature the beard. I argue the beard is the canon skin, not "MHF_Herobrine"'s version of the skin. Therefore, I have reverted the skin.
 * If this "MHF_Herobrine" is really important, I would suggest adding a section about the alternate skin, creating a "skin swatcher" of sorta a-la Here, or making it an animated gif. But canonically, Herobrine does have a beard, and always has.
 * I'll go back to trying to sort out this twitch account merge thing now. That's the main reason I've come back for just a short while.
 * Edit: I have since been made aware that MHF is an official Mojang skin pool of sorts. While I now better understand the change and reasoning for it, it should be noted that Mojang are not the creators of the Herobrine hoax and all origin skins show the beard, as well as legacy promo material.
 * I continue to affirm that the legacy skin is canon, and further believe that the Mojang team don't really have a right to change the canon of Herobrine's appearance canonically, especially due to the repeated denouncing of any future plans to add him in-game. But it most certainly would be relevant for a trivia or smaller section on the page, with the newer skin included as an image.--<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 01:44, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * As an update, I’ve had a brief conversation with Marc, and the Herobrine skin has been change to his canon appearance to the original lore. It seems the image was supplied by an average user, according to my own research. This change to the skin system should settle this confusion. —<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 01:37, 7 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for mentioning this about Marc changing the Herobrine skin. I've updated the  graphic in InvSprite, which appears on the Mob head page, so, after Cloudflare finishes taking its sweet time with the cached image, the change should be visible. –  Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 04:13, 8 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Who's Marc? VeenM64 <em class="plainlinks" style="margin-left: 0.5em; font-size: 90%;">(talk • contribs • [ logs]) 🐷🥕☮️ 04:35, 8 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Marc is the one who's invented the MHF heads, see the Mob_head page. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 08:30, 8 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Is there an article about him on this wiki? VeenM64 <em class="plainlinks" style="margin-left: 0.5em; font-size: 90%;">(talk • contribs • [ logs]) 🐷🥕☮️ 21:04, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Marc Watson. – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 21:22, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks! :) VeenM64 <em class="plainlinks" style="margin-left: 0.5em; font-size: 90%;">(talk • contribs • [ logs]) 🐷🥕☮️ 02:34, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Minecraft Wiki broken
Trying to go to Special:GlobalWatchlist and save a page in the watchlist causes an error. (source) <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 10:05, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't think this is the only broken thing, I don't see any changes happening in Special:RecentChanges either, and normal watchlist seems to be broken too. --Hubry (talk) 10:07, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Can confirm this problem on the Russian wiki. The error occurs even on pages not in somebody’s own watchlist. Edits not being registered in the recent changes creates a good opportunity for malicious edits not being seen (in fact, I have discovered such an edit on the Russian wiki while browsing last revisions). But, at least, the edits are still shown in pages’ histories. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 11:43, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Some special pages and other things are broken too. I don't get to see my level badge on my profile anymore, just my wiki points. I wanted to go see other people's profiles, but I get a hard error on the [//minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Special:ListAllUsers&group=bureaucrat user group list] (I tried bureaucrats). Am I correct to assume this is due to the host moving or having moved? I don't see the notice message about anywhere anymore. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 12:01, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I also got a similar error when trying to save above message, although it did appear to have been saved when I reloaded this page. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 12:03, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


 * It seems everytime I go to ?action=submit on this page and then click submit, it shows a huge error with stacktrace on the page, but when I then click the navigation button to reload the project's wiki page, it gives the "your edit was saved" toast message and shows my message as if no error occurred. this is all very weird. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 12:06, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Aid from Russian wiki: this shows up to 500 (or 5000 for admins and bots) first edits since the moment the errors began happening. Until recent changes continue to work as normal, this will serve as an ad hoc replacement.
 * Game widow, can you say something about the issues? —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 12:13, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I've created an HTML code to make it easier, however, you need Chrome and change the HTML response to for it to work.


 * I think everything has been fixed. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 12:49, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, and I can again see new edits in the recent changes. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 12:57, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


 * And I can see my level badge once again. I've made various edits in various places, and none of them made any errors anymore. Thanks for fixing! – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 21:44, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Protection for The Player
Edit warring by an IP inserting unsourced speculative information. Skylinerw (talk) 14:40, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Just ask for the user to be blocked; no need to go so far so as to request a protection (especially since there's only one user involved). VeenM64 <em class="plainlinks" style="margin-left: 0.5em; font-size: 90%;">(talk • contribs • [ logs]) 🐷🥕☮️ 17:50, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Mmm, I was debating whether or not to request that instead. I figured that if the page were protected for a short time, it would potentially prompt the user to go to the Talk page to discuss the issue instead of ignoring us and continuing their edit warring. Blocking them would prevent discussion, but of course is another option. Skylinerw (talk) 18:17, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Sure. Protected it for a week. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 19:35, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * And the problem continues again, with a slightly different IP. This time as, the Player page is under the exact same persistent attack and the same nonsense / unrelevant info is being edited in about the goatee. What else can be done than protecting the page for a while? – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 11:50, 31 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Maybe protecting it for a slightly longer unit of time. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 19:40, 2 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Not that an edit war has started again yet, but the first edit has come in again (and reverted it). Now by yet again a slightly different IP, . Will they ever stop? – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 17:07, 22 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I can 99.9% guarantee all those IPs are the same person; the known IPs there show a very small subnet mask, and a quick spot-check of the edits from them don't suggest any unrelated editing activity (though I didn't examine any edits in detail). That being said, since I can't seem to find a decent CIDR subnet calculator anywhere, I've just reprotected the page for six months. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:27, 22 December 2017 (UTC)


 * http://whois.domaintools.com/94.21.95.141 (solve the really simple CAPTCHA to view the output) — the subnet is "94.21.95.0 - 94.21.95.255"; https://ipaddressguide.com/cidr — the mask is "94.21.95.0/24". These are just the tools I used, there are definitely many others. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 17:40, 22 December 2017 (UTC)


 * The subnet for the IPs we've seen so far is smaller than that. More recent versions of MediaWiki have (finally!) added support for viewing contributions across an entire subnet at once (it's had support for blocking subnets for many years); unfortunately, Gamepedia isn't running a new enough version to benefit from that (I'd really like to see what it would turn up). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:44, 22 December 2017 (UTC)


 * The Human page just got edited about this smile/goatee thing again, now by . I suggest permanently protecting both pages to autoconfirmed priviledge, as this problem will (apparently) not end. Thanks. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 16:43, 26 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Extended protection to a year. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 21:44, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Add the New Nintendo 3DS Edition (Pls use the source code to see)
At the main page, the New Nintendo 3DS Edition version uses the following one: . Can anyone add   to Template:Version ? The latest New Nintendo 3DS Edition is 0.1.0 –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Skylord wars (talk • contribs) at 04:49, 4 November 2017 (UTC). Please sign your posts with

Violating Rule #2: disruptive editing. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 13:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Please take some form of action. This user completely disregards the rules and style guide.
 * We have to undo and clean up their mess every day. --Pepijn (talk) 13:04, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * In this edit, they added false but plausible-looking information that wasn't caught until a random reader (not an editor) brought it to our attention. The false information was not the result of a misunderstanding, it was simply something this user assumed was true and didn't bother to verify. We have made repeated attempts to guide this user toward more productive editing, but we don't seem to be getting through, and the user is persistent and prolific so undoing the damage wastes considerable time. --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 15:18, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I have blocked them for three days. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 19:37, 18 October 2017 (UTC)


 * They are back at it. – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 11:35, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * 2 weeks... -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 19:37, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I believe this user is back as . Still disregarding the style guide and rules, the latest example is them moving a page without consensus. --Pepijn (talk) 12:19, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * done... -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 12:28, 7 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Now that the user is blocked for a month, I went through some of their contributions, and I have a lot of doubts about their content. Should some of their work be reverted/changed back? Some stuff has gone down in their respective page's history already, and I'm not sure what edit is or isn't acceptable. For instance, their [//minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Creeper&diff=prev&oldid=1162213 Creeper edit] which is its latest, seems to hide the fact they removed information (the XP drop) by re-arranging the drops into a bulleted list. I kindof want to revert it, but he did the same bulleted list to the blaze page (not removing XP drops that time) but [//minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Blaze&diff=1158158&oldid=1157198 that edit] was a month ago already. I notice some aggressive mob pages have a bulleted list and some don't, but on these two pages I feel it isn't needed. And I could argue about their other contributions too, but I'm not experienced enough yet on this wiki to decide which change/edit is or isn't right. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 13:32, 7 November 2017 (UTC)


 * A couple of users, including myself, have been trying to keep a close eye on all their edits but I'm unsure if we caught everything. Regarding the Mob drop edits: I hate inconsistency without a proper reason, so I would say it's all or nothing. --Pepijn (talk) 13:38, 7 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't like inconsistency either. I think it could work to allow a piece of content to become bulleted if; A) the items can be systematically summarized if that makes it easier to read, B) the unbulleted paragraph of text would otherwise become too much information all over the place, C) there are enough items to make a reasonable list of over 3 items, and D) there are not too many items and bits of information in each that would be better placed in a table. As my own rule of thumb for such a thing. Because lists are not always the best solution on a wiki, we don't want everything in lists, but for some occasions it may be unavoidable.


 * ... But regarding this user, one of such edits that I have doubts on, is the [//minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Spider&diff=prev&oldid=1162197 latest Spider] one. Where did they get those chance numbers from for instance? Or what about the move of the Village structures pages, were those good moves? Do you need my help with any verification or anything else? Or is everything OK for now and move on? – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 14:03, 7 November 2017 (UTC)


 * The chances were already on the page before the edit, the user just rearranged the information that was already there. The redirect change was also fine, before it was a double redirect and that should always be prevented. --Pepijn (talk) 14:11, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Permissions problem on the profile since PRO activated
I was just messing about with my Echo badges in my stylesheet, then I changed the setting to "Show talk page message indicator in my toolbar" (unchecked it) and hit save preferences, and suddenly I became a PRO user according to my profile page (and my signature here while previewing). Then I could not use the comment system anymore on the profile pages, not even on my own, as it now warns me I have no permissions for that (anymore!). I tried reconfirming my email address as suggested, but that didn't change anything. I also now get a supposed warning message when I try to change that setting from before, and although it does save, the warning says I cannot edit this profile without email verification. I don't even know what this setting does, hence why I tried it in the first place. Also, I checked my gamepedia account page, and it does state I have an active PRO status, which expires 2/7/2018. I don't have exactly 1k wikipoints yet, so I can't think of any reason why this automatically would have happened. When/how do you get PRO status, and is that status possibly the reason why I "lost" my commenting permission? – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 23:59, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It's a known issue about comments not currently working properly, and should be fixed sometime in the next day or so. It's entirely unrelated to Gamepedia Pro status being given. DSquirrelGM &#120035;&#120031;&#120018; 06:27, 8 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. But, then there are multiple problems. All my emails broke at the same time, apparently. I do not get any email from the watchlist for instance, because it is complaining about that confirmation thingy. In my profile preferences, on the profile itself, and possibly in more places. When I visit the confirmation special page from the link in those warnings, it says . But I already clicked the link from the referred-to email. So why is my account complaining about my email address confirmation, and is the confirmation not working? This makes it very hard for me to keep track of everything as I don't get notified anymore. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 09:15, 8 November 2017 (UTC)


 * All seems to work fine now, glad it's fixed, thanks :) Still don't know how or why I got that PRO status though, I didn't buy anything. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 16:10, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * You got a 3 month PRO subscription for free for being an active wiki editor. Check the email address you used to register to Gamepedia, you should be getting a message with an explanation every time a new subscription is awarded. --Hubry (talk) 16:30, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Ah, so for just my activity in general, cool. I didn't get any emails about it though, not even in spam folders. Oh well, it's ok. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 16:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * The email arrived late, but I got it now. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 09:12, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Communityportal messed up navigation (mediawiki related, not edit history)
For some reason the wiki page of the community portal has messed up the mediawiki navigation elements. The div#mw-navigation is suddenly inside the div#content, where normally it should be its sibling. The navigation appears in the same place as the page content, making it invisible to read and overlapping stuff that it shouldn't. It's got nothing to do with the page's edit history, as its last edit did not have this problem before and currently viewing a previous revision does not have any effect. Also, an edit could not have caused an HTML element to have moved into one of its siblings like this. This problem happened after the move to the new host. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 08:42, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I just noticed it also happens on translated versions of this wiki. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 09:14, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * There was a closed div missing. I will fix it in the other versions too.  HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 09:30, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I didn't know the order of elements could change depending on the position of the closing tags, so it was a page edit after all. I guess it must be a Chrome Inspector thing. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 09:34, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

500 Internal Server Error
I've been trying to revert an act of vandalism on the fire article, but whenever I try to do so it keeps throwing this at me: 500 Internal Server Error nginx/1.10.3 (Ubuntu)

I still seem to be able to edit other pages just fine. VeenM64 <em class="plainlinks" style="margin-left: 0.5em; font-size: 90%;">(talk • contribs • [ logs]) 🐷🥕☮️ 22:36, 15 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I got the same error when I tried to undo the edit, but logging out and then undoing the edit seemed to work for me. – <b style="color:#ff7f00">JEC</b> <sub style="color:#ff7f00">talk  22:49, 15 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I also got the same error between editing pages of translations of certain pages. Earlier I also noticed gamepedia's Cheevos Service was unavailable and caused all profile statistics to revert to zero, and although the service appears to be back again and statistics with it, I believe some statistics might have gone lost in between. These might be host-related issues I believe. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 22:56, 15 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I now consistently get 520 server errors on a lot of pages, letting me wait a while before the page loads successfully, even on the hydra stylesheet file itself (making everything look like the built-in Vector skin). Sometimes I get the host error page from Curse if a page doesn't load, and sometimes the page then loads automatically moments later directly from that error page. This is a host problem according to the error, but why and what can be done about this? It really slows down work, and it's been like this for a few days. I really hope Curse is working on this, but I can't find any status or news pages about anything they do/are doing/are going to do. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 15:31, 20 November 2017 (UTC)


 * All right, I emailed gamepedia about the issues, and I got this response:


 * So fortunately, they're aware of the hosting problems and are working on fixing them, I just wanted to share. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 17:29, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

About an anonymous user
An anonymous user with various private IPs, such as and, is creating useless (or probably vandal, which violates the wiki rule #2]) edits. Looking at [//ipinfo.io/172.31.33.176] and [//ipinfo.io/172.31.20.208], it seems that this user is an anonymous user from Curse (where this server is hosted). So what must we do? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:49, 18 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I'd say just ban them both. If someone is violating the rules, they have no business here. They are also inserting nonsense so it's not only 2 but also against rule 4. Everytime they are doing harm to our pages, we have to step in, discuss it and revert the damage, when we could have spent our time better. It happens every day now, and even I am already tired of this eventhough I've only been here for a few weeks. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 11:58, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * We are not allowed to block 172.31.x.x IPs. There is currently a bug displaying all new user with this IPs. Curse is is trying to fix this as soon as possible.  HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 12:44, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, Do not block these IPs. They're shared but broken. Please just revert their edits if they're bad instead of blocking them. Sorry if this is very inconvenient, but blocking them cuts off a bunch of innocent users, so please just wait until Gamepedia fixes it. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 13:47, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The Russian wiki is currently experiencing a wave of vandalism by a very persistent vandal (it's likely just one person) who is using the situation to deface the site unimpeded. Just today they've made 12 vandal edits and created 8 vandal pages, not counting actions rejected by abuse filters. Without proper blocking capabilities it's not possible to adequately react to the vandalism. Is there any status update on when this bug is going to be fixed? --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 13:52, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The IP bug has been fixed. – Dentedharp90041tce 10:00, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Inappropriate username. Also, this user is likely the persistent vandal affecting the Russian wiki (this misspelling of "vandalism" is same as the one used in this edit made by that vandal). --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 14:13, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, I just this moment asked how much longer until the 172.31 problem might be fixed. The answer was "If not today, next week. And probably not today." --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 14:17, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * As I know, it was an innocent participant, but why he chose such a name is unknown. Rusy233 ms (talk) 13:19, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * How do you know this user is innocent? --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 13:20, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Actually, this user is definitely no longer innocent, given that they just made 101 vandal page moves. This user is probably a sockpuppet of Rusy233 ms. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 17:56, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism. --Pepijn (talk) 13:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Handled by Pcj. --Pepijn (talk) 16:11, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

There needs to be a tutorial that teaches people how to create a data pack.
As per the title. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by RyanCYMak (talk • contribs) at 07:59, 28 November 2017‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with

Created. See here Tutorials/Creating a data pack –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Skylord wars (talk • contribs) at 14:11, 28 November 2017‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with

This user edited, inserted and removed information regarding the the generation of mushrooms in witch hut flower pots, which was hoax / false information. I reverted all their edits, taking into account any conflicting edits that happened afterwards by others. I personally tested whether mushrooms generate in witch huts prior to 1.13 snapshots in a brand new 1.12.2 world, and they don't. Just mentioning the efford here, in case this user continues similar hoax edits. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 13:48, 30 November 2017 (UTC)


 * To elaborate on the "mushroom in witch huts or not", Pocket Edition always had a red mushroom while Java didn't prior to 17w47a. Not an excuse to vandalize Java Edition specific information of course, but it provides a reason why the user might be confused. --Pepijn (talk) 14:35, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I find that very hard to believe, as they also edited the sentence that explicitly said how Pocket was different. Maybe they just assumed the two were the same, and then without verifying changed the text to describe that assumption. But I've been confused about something clear as well, so I won't judge. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 14:50, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Buying the game
Okay, so if I buy Minecraft on my laptop but then get a new computer later, do I have to buy the game again or just re-download? Anybody with answers, please help as I'm looking into purchasing in the very near future. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 174.102.177.75 (talk) at 18:35, 3 December 2017‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * No, you won't have to buy the game again. Once bought, you may download the game as many times you want. You could even save the download and transfer it to your other PC via memory stick if you need to do it without internet connection. Just bare in mind you need an internet connection once, the first time you launch the game. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 19:14, 3 December 2017 (UTC)


 * See also https://help.mojang.com/customer/en/portal/articles/494713-changed-computers-account-is-gone 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:16, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

17w46b
This page for a non-existent snapshot (that can never exist since we're well past the 46th week) has been in a perpetual edit war, in which IPs are constantly removing the deletion request. Looking to place a more formal request here so we don't need to constantly re-add the request on the page. Skylinerw (talk) 22:00, 4 December 2017 (UTC)


 * . 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:42, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Minecraft Wiki/edition (fully protected page) contains an error
On above mentioned page there is an accidentally closed  element in the middle of a table, due to the "end of table" symbols being interpreted as a parameter for the enclosing template call. See the line with, which pipe should have been escaped like:. I've fixed this exact problem on Minecraft_Wiki/hu/edition already. You could compare the revisions to see the strange effect on the navigation header buttons this problem has, and how my edit fixed that, if this didn't explain it very well. I'd edit it myself, but the page is fully protected. I'm currently going through all article pages (yes, all) in alphabetical order to check for other occurances of improperly closed elements and fix them if not protected, and this page came up in the middle. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 23:44, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * And one article page later comes the editcopy of the page, on which I submitted my suggestion. – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 23:48, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * . 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:42, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Delete improvement
This template should be modified so that if a custom reason is specified, it will replace the text "This is due to a violation of the rules or by the author's request" instead of appearing under it. I don't have anything else to add other than the fact that it just makes sense! VeenM64 <em class="plainlinks" style="margin-left: 0.5em; font-size: 90%;">(talk • contribs • [ logs]) 🐷🥕☮️ 21:54, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * ! – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 04:37, 8 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I would be happy to help, but the template is protected on local administrators level, not on the Directors level that I am able to access (like with Module:Version/Numbers as I did some time ago). —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 15:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


 * – KnightMiner  · (t) 17:37, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, KnightMiner, congratulations with becoming a new administrator of English Minecraft Wiki! I didn’t even notice that. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 16:27, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

File File:Biocraft124.png doesn't work anymore (fixed)
For a different reason as the file from previous section, this file is broken too. It cannot be viewed on its own page or even its history, but the only page it is linked from (Texture_pack/Native) does render the image itself correctly, see "Biocraft" in the top table. I'm getting an internal error on the file page and history,, which makes me completely unable to check what's going on. The error seems to imply that the database cannot select it or something, possibly due to invalid characters somewhere but not sure. I have no access to the source code so I can't check myself what the error is exactly referring to. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] 22:39, 14 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I attempted to ask about this in the #general channel on the Gamepedia Slack. Pcj, the WOWpedia wiki manager and a GRASP member, replied that we need to create a ticket and emphasized bringing it to the attention of our wiki manager, who I believe is . Apparently, the problem was caused when a user with a wonky user name updated it in 2012. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 17:11, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You are thinking wiki guardian. Your wiki manager is your liaison to Curse, in this case I believe Game widow. --Pcj (talk) 17:43, 17 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Actually, I'd never heard of either one, wiki guardian or manager. Where was I, an ordinary editor, meant to hear of them? No, I was going by what people had in their Slack profiles, and I misread Dinoguy's; I read "wiki manager" where it says "wiki admin". But I gotta say, getting help from Gamepedia or Curse is like making a black market deal. You have to hang around the wiki's dank admin ghettoes advertising that you're looking for help until a passing geezer in plain street kit susses you out and murmurs cryptically where to look for the guy who can get what you need. It shouldn't be this hard! – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 20:32, 17 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I'll send the support ticket. That's always worked for me. Thanks for your efford though, I wouldn't have known how to approach this issue without your help. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 20:40, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I created a formal ticket for it this morning — Game widow (talk) 14:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that! I just got a reply from the GP community manager as well, confirming that an impermissible username caused the database to error out. Hopefully it can be fixed. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 14:43, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, I had not noticed but Alianin had already created a ticket, so there are even two in at the moment — Game widow (talk) 14:54, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Seems to be fixed now, thanks guys. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 10:39, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

This user keeps on creating and linking to pages that are not released nor even announced yet, after many reverts from various editors. They have already been blocked before, twice, for vandalism and spam, for 3 days and 7 days respectively, in the last two weeks (!). This user apparently does not understand how to behave, and I vote for an even longer block or 'third-strike' action or something, please. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] 22:54, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

1.13-pre1 This page for a non-existent snapshot has been in a perpetual edit war, in which IPs are constantly removing the deletion request and re-adding false information. Looking to place a more formal request here so we don't need to constantly re-add the request to the page and remove incorrect facts from the page. 130.126.255.11 23:03, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

The 17w50a page is also affected, I keep reverting both but to really stop this a higher power needs to step in. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] 23:11, 14 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Blocked the IP and deleted+salted 1.13-pre1. I've been keeping an eye on that IP, guess I should've checked their block log sooner. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:36, 14 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Why restrict creation to only administrators? Things might get problematic when the actual 1.13 prerelease comes out. Wouldn't it make sense to change protection settings to allow autoconfirmed users? - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 23:53, 14 December 2017 (UTC)


 * We have no evidence to suggest we're anywhere near seeing the 1.13 prerelease UIAM. If it does come out in the near future, though, any administrator can unprotect the page. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:02, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Also, the issue continues now on IP at the 17w50a page. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 00:17, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I've just semiprotected that page; that's the only edit that IP has done so far, so blocking is an overreaction IMO. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:02, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and fair enough. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 08:05, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Open proxy or VPN. Restored a trolling/impersonation post on this page. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 10:30, 17 December 2017 (UTC)


 * This Replicator IP address is handled by xbony2. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 15:25, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Main page does not reflect Windows 10 update to 1.2.8
For some reason Windows 10 wasn't included with Android and iOS in the updates to 1.2.8 on the main page. It became available from the Windows Store December 18. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 12:32, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Version numbers updated. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 12:43, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:FileUrl is expecting the wrong result from { {filepath:}} (solved)
This template expects the string returned from { {filepath:}} to be a URL that starts with:


 * (example). But instead, the filepath returns this:


 * (equivalent example).

Which is shorter, and consequently causes the template's string logic to strip the  part out of the URL, as a net result after it processed Widget:FileUrl. This incapacitates Template:FrontPageLink visibly on both its own page as well as on the transcluding main page. You can see the effect because the image from above examples is not visible on those pages. Inspecting the page shows the evidence of the stripped URL:


 * . Notice the double slash before the file basename.

I don't know why { {filepath:}} gives this external URL, and I don't know why both URLs function correctly. Maybe one of them is intended to redirect to the other. But before looking into fixing the logic of the template, does anyone know exactly where the fault lies? I suspect one of the URLs might be outdated. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] 20:32, 19 December 2017 (UTC)


 * In this case, it doesn't really matter what's going on with the URLs; since the template was using the wrong URL in its logic, it would always return the wrong value, unless that URL just happened to match the length of the correct URL. I've changed the URL to a more automatic method that should resist future changes in Gamepedia's file hosting method, unless they change or do away with the  part of the file path. 「 ディノ 奴  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 10:03, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * To me the URL did matter, as I couldn't tell which was the wrong one. But I guess you indeed don't have to know if you compare the same URL with itself like you did. This is exactly the kind of dynamic fix I was hoping for. So thank you, it works :) – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 10:19, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * For some reason, the updated template does not work on the Russian wiki if the size parameter is provided or if the file name contains non-Latin characters, test cases here. The URLs look valid, but show a "Could not load the image" error if inspected via Firefox Developer Tools. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 11:04, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe that size parameter is only good for SVG files, as the outputted format looks like that. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 11:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Template:FileUrl/doc on this wiki is using the size parameter on a PNG image. Used to work a few moments ago, doesn't work now. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 11:20, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * It's because Widget:FileUrl still had a hardcoded URL. I've removed it, which also allowed removing the whole stripping portion of the logic from FileUrl; there's no reason I'm aware of not to just use the URL returned by  directly (well, the   does have to be stripped and then re-added in the widget, since otherwise the colon gets escaped as   which breaks the value at least in Chrome, but it's still a far simpler and more robust solution than the previous version). Try updating ru:Template:FileUrl and ru:Widget:FileUrl and see if the examples on the page work. 「 ディノ 奴  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 11:25, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Updated the Russian wiki template and widget. Still does not work for files with non-Latin characters in names, probably due to these characters being percent-encoded. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 11:28, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Try updating the template and widget again. I'm not 100% sure it will work, since the documentation for the feature I used suggests it won't work with Unicode URLs, though the way it's worded also suggests that's limited specifically to internationalized domain names. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 11:43, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * All four test cases work now. Thank you for your assistance. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 11:46, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Guess it works now. – Dentedharp90041tce 11:23, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * So as it turns out, one component of the security concerns was with allowing arbitrarily-hosted files to be linked to. We can still use the auto-detection for the details of the upload URL in the template, but it will have to be hardcoded in the widget, at least for the foreseeable future. As for the Unicode filename problem this reintroduced, I just didn't look closely enough at the actual URLs being served in the CSS; as it turns out, they were being double-encoded: first by, and then a second time by  , which escaped the percent signs to  . The solution, then, is  , which reverses the first round of escaping. 「 ディノ 奴  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 12:09, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Apple iOS.svg needs to be updated on Hydra Commons to the 2017 version of logo
Here is the 2017 version of the iOS logo. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IOS_wordmark_(2017).svg -- 007a83 Talk 10:02, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Continuously adding unsourced information to 1.14 and Update Aquatic. --Pepijn (talk) 13:03, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Delete Oasis
A more direct request to delete the page Oasis before an edit war happens with people removing and re-adding the delete template. Oases in 1.14 are unsourced. --Pepijn (talk) 13:24, 2 January 2018 (UTC)


 * It has been deleted apparently. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 13:38, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Help:Contents
In light of this edit: does this page need to be semiprotected? --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 18:38, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Vandalism on that page seems very infrequent (last one was 2 months ago), and there have been helpful edits from anons, so I am not sure it is needed at this time. – KnightMiner  · (t) 19:12, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Candidates for semiprotection
Many anon edits in history, not one is constructive. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 14:43, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * File:Creepercloak.png
 * File:Minecon 2016 Cape In Game.png
 * I restricted editing to autoconfirmed users — Game widow (talk) 14:51, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Delete request for Bedrock_Edition_1.2.10
An anonymous user created this page about a non-existing and unannounced version and has tried to remove the delete template, so here is a more direct request to prevent an edit war. --Pepijn (talk) 15:56, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * by Orthotope. --Pepijn (talk) 17:02, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Requesting semi-protection for Better Together Update.
The page is being vandalized constantly by anonymous users. --Pepijn (talk) 12:50, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * by Dinoguy1000. --Pepijn (talk) 21:03, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Unclosed HTML tags breaking pages?
Breaks on Minecraft Wiki, does not break on Terraria Wiki (linking oldid so you can inspect a static revision). What's special about Minecraft Wiki? Which behavior is more correct? (The non-breaking behavior is convenient because it allows custom formatting to be applied to the entire user talk page dynamically, as seen in the Terraria Wiki example.) --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 13:46, 21 January 2018 (UTC)


 * It has something to do with HTML Tidy from what I heard. Good chance it will be fixed as soon as the problem is discovered. – KnightMiner  · (t) 20:15, 21 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The problem has been fixed by someone already now, but this was an example described by the Cleanup open tags project. There were a lot of pages that had improperly closed html tags like code, div and small etc. This project fixed this for hopefully all existing issues on this wiki but translation wikis might still show issues on rare pages. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 10:45, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Unused accounts
I think of deleting unused user accounts, which has no contributions to the wiki. An example would be the first page of the user list, which has a list of user accounts with weird names. – ITechieGamertce 12:54, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've noticed that too - also, when you look at the profile for some of those accounts, it says in the top right corner, "A global user by this name was not found."--Madminecrafter12 (talk) 15:52, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I went through the first 20 or so, and they are all 5+ year old accounts with no edit history (some have 1 or 2), or not even an account creation date in their public log. I'm assuming a lot of these accounts were fake, spam or just never used. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 16:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think there is any urgent reason to delete accounts. Additionally, no, admins cannot delete accounts. This is not a feature of MediaWiki. When this topic got brought up on Gamepedia Slack, staff member have said they don't delete any accounts, that's a rule. piotrex43 (Talk page) 17:06, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not Gamepedia staff but no, not going to happen. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 18:38, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit merge bug?
This edit was actually 2 edits; 1 moving images and one linking to monster egg, but they saved as 1 edit. What happened? Is this an issue that has happened before? – Nixinova   02:22, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


 * You overwrote your first edit by editing an old version of the page, perhaps by opening two edit tabs. I don't think you can edit conflict with yourself, so it will just silently overwrite it. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 03:47, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

File:Education_Edition.svg doesn't work anymore (fixed)
I just happened to come across a missing/broken image on the Command Block page, I checked it, but it's right there. It is the only broken one of its kind in exclusive. But even on the media page it looks broken. Surely this file wasn't broken when it was uploaded though, I've seen this particular image before. However I do not know how SVG works, could someone look into this, possibly related to the actual database? We've recently had a lot of these issues when Gamepedia temporarily froze it earlier, I think this might be a leftover issue or something. I tried purging, didn't help. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] 00:07, 8 December 2017 (UTC)


 * It seems to work fine now. 72.2.17.176 22:04, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * The image's page does seem to work yes, but it still doesn't show on the above mentioned template or article pages. I tried purging but that didn't help. Ping as you reuploaded the image (thanks for helping). I don't know how to get it to work again. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 22:29, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Often it helps to move the file to fix it, but unfortunately not here :(  HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 22:35, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * This file still doesn't show up on the pages, anyone? – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 10:43, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I was able to resize the display of it on Education Edition by 1px to break cache. --Pcj (talk) 21:22, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I know, I've seen that. However it has no effect on the page I had liked to above. On the exclusive template, it still shows a broken image, even after I just purged it. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 21:24, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I just corrected it on the exclusive template as well. --Pcj (talk) 21:27, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks, it's finally fixed. I don't know if there were other pages with the problem, but I think it cascaded there because its also fixed on the Command block page. I'm marking this issue for archival now. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 21:33, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

= Unresolved issues =

issues with responsive style at small sizes
Not sure what to call it - it's not the mobile style, but the normal looking style, scaled to mobile size. I noticed these issues on Firefox on mobile, but haven't checked other browsers.

Issue #1 -

The Gamepedia bar is half-overlapping the search bar. Makes the search bar finicky to use. It's been that way for a while, not specific to this MW upgrade.

Issue #2 -

The "Share" tab is raised up out of place. I don't necessarily care about that, it just looks funny.

Issue #3 -

The "Talk" tab often gets covered up by all the other tabs on the right. It appears that stuff is supposed to collapse into the "More" tab when the screen is small, but this isn't preventing Talk from getting hidden. That's also been happening for a long time.

– Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 12:43, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Desktop view is not intended for mobile. That's why there is a mobile view. Anyway, it should still be fixed, though. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 16:10, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Subscribing to a category for all its (future) pages?
Would it be possible to allow users to watch category membership changes? Like "subscribing" to a category and getting notified about any page that gets added or removed from that category? I searched the mediawiki wiki, and it appears there is such a function, documented at Manual:CategoryMembershipChanges. But it says it is turned off by default. I really like that feature, but it could only be turned on by an admin. With it, I wouldn't need to manually look out for new snapshot pages that I'd like to add to my watchlist for instance, it would simply notify me of any new ones. Pretty please? ^_^ – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 10:27, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Reconfirm email address
It turns out I have to reconfirm my email address. After reconfirming it, it showed up that I still have to reconfirm it, according to Special:Preferences. This causes the "PRO" badge to disappear before my user link, although Gamepedia has given me a free subscription to GamepediaPRO. , can you fix this please?

Not only does it happen here, but on all Gamepedia wikis. It also shows this line of error code after clicking the link inside the email: <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 13:14, 19 November 2017 (UTC) [b4bcba7c7b7b99760ea024fd] /Special:ConfirmEmail/473a757a10018efe53f7b2f7a71db619 MWException from line 4026 of /var/app/current/includes/user/User.php: CAS update failed on user_touched for user ID '338550' (read from replica); the version of the user to be saved is older than the current version.

Backtrace:


 * 1) 0 /var/app/current/includes/specials/SpecialConfirmemail.php(159): User->saveSettings
 * 2) 1 /var/app/current/includes/specials/SpecialConfirmemail.php(73): EmailConfirmation->attemptConfirm(string)
 * 3) 2 /var/app/current/includes/specialpage/SpecialPage.php(522): EmailConfirmation->execute(string)
 * 4) 3 /var/app/current/includes/specialpage/SpecialPageFactory.php(578): SpecialPage->run(string)
 * 5) 4 /var/app/current/includes/MediaWiki.php(287): SpecialPageFactory::executePath(Title, RequestContext)
 * 6) 5 /var/app/current/includes/MediaWiki.php(862): MediaWiki->performRequest
 * 7) 6 /var/app/current/includes/MediaWiki.php(523): MediaWiki->main
 * 8) 7 /var/app/current/index.php(43): MediaWiki->run
 * 9) 8 {main}

Anon invasion of the Russian Minecraft Wiki
The anonymous vandals and spammers are plaguing the Russian Minecraft Wiki. Our project perhaps never has seen consecutive blocks of so many IP address ranges. At least three types of malicious actions are being done: advertisements, actions related to the recently blocked user Rusy233 ms, and actions related to the long-ago blocked user EnderMamix. Some IP addresses say that these users don’t have anything to do with the spammers and their accounts were hacked, but it is impossible to track every IP address and confirm these words. Vandals are using a multitude of VPNs and possibly other anonymizing utilities to evade blocks. I even had to engineer a new abuse filter to fight against a specific type of vandalism (it was later patched by AttemptToCallNil). This is terrible.

I request Curse administration (Game widow) and GRASP (Pcj, xbony2) to help our project in taking care of these mysterious bad guys. But beware: after my message they might target you too! —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:24, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * OK — Game widow (talk) 14:25, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I will check the RC periodically to look at anything suspicious. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 16:03, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I wonder if it is possible to enable Captcha (or similar) for IPs and users who haven't been autoconfirmed for as long as this spam attack may last...? -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 19:02, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Nothing's really been happening, probably because you put in a good abuse filter. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 12:30, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No, we weren’t messing up with abuse filters in the last 24 hours. It may just be a break between attacks. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:25, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I thought you said you did but whatever. Will keep an eye out and stuff though. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 23:38, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

This is terrible. The vandal adapts to any upgrades of the abuse filter (it already includes some obscene words of Russian language, de facto enforcing one of the rules’ points), pushing his edits out of any filter’s pattern range. AttemptToCallNil suggested on the Russian wiki’s Discord channel to block all open proxies based on information from Wikipedia with the aid of Curse or an admin bot. The problem is will Curse allow such a radical action or not, but the Replicators (as we call the vandal IP addresses in Discord after Stargate creatures) are already a nagging issue interfering with our project’s normal life. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 15:28, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * To clarify, just today we've already blocked twelve proxies used by the vandal to make over 40 edits. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 15:37, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Game widow@undefined could you please have Extension:TorBlock installed for the Russian wiki? Some administrators suspect that at least some of these proxy IPs are Tor exit nodes. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 15:03, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Installed — Game widow (talk) 17:13, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The extension is now on Special:Version. Thank you for your assistance. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 17:20, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

As of now, the Replicators are mostly dormant. Some evidences suggest that Rusy233 ms is actually behind this mess, and a indefinite block has been proposed for him in Discord. Also, I have coded a program that allows to consequently block IP addresses en masse, which would allow solving the issue of open proxies. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 13:46, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Rusy233 ms has been indefinitely blocked by AttemptToCallNil just right now. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 16:49, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but it was not me. Please, so that this does not happen again. Rusy233 ms (talk) 17:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * What's up with this drama? I translated Rusy's talk page from the Russian wiki and the best that I can understand is that their account has caused much vandalism, which Rusy has said is because hackers got into the account. But that's generally odd since no one else has ever had a problem with that since MediaWiki is pretty secure. I'd assume Rusy would have tried changing their password to something not used on any other account. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 22:31, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Evidence against that user:
 * Multiple accounts of vandalism, provocations, and other disruptive activity (such as changing names of game concepts to variants only he uses; repeating the same baseless statements like "this name is not natural" in discussions)
 * Inquiring about anti-vandalism abuse filters during the vandal invasion in a manner which suggests he has triggered those filters, but no legitimate edits were affected by the filters;
 * Using the same misspelling of vandalism ("vandalizme") as the vandal;
 * Inquiring about Tor being blocked just after the extension was installed, the most likely way to find that out was to attempt to edit via Tor (and there was no legitimate reason to do that, his primary IPs were not blocked)
 * Then there's this: ru:Special:Diff/645051. Rough translation: "I found out something unexpected: even if substantial security measures are applied, the account will still be hacked because the hackers are using bots to instantly hack accounts regardless of their security measures." Some administrators believe this is convincing evidence of that his "hacking" claims are trolling.
 * --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 06:05, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * And now he claims that this message about hacking was written by hackers who hacked his account. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 08:49, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Changed the account password by 20 characters. Most likely, crackers will use more complex scripts for hacking. Rusy233 ms (talk) 16:48, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * To me it sounds as if to me, even if you are innocent, you are a liability. Do you have a little brother or something that uses your computer? If you can't deal with this problem I don't see what anyone can do but block you. The homophobia (which I have a natural bias against since I am bi) and seemingly personal attacks (it looks like Babylon and AttemptToCallNil are being targeted in particular) really aren't helping your case I may note. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 19:07, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Is there any kind of CheckUser process on Gamepedia? Because at least two Russian wiki administrators suspect that User:Vandalizme is a sockpuppet of User:Rusy233 ms, and that this user may be the vandal who attacked the Russian wiki in late November / early December. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 06:35, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It's pretty much just asking Gamepedia staff. You should be on the Gamepedia Slack btw, which is the best way to quickly talk to the staff. Babylon refused to join when I asked him long ago, but maybe you are less stubborn; it would be a lot easier to respond to disasters such as this if you were. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 13:50, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

I request a global indefinite block of Rusy233 ms and related accounts. Also, I have already sent requests to accept me into GRASP twice and I’m now on a line to join the Slack channel (also, why Slack, not Discord?). I’m determined to crush the Replicators in reach once and for all. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:19, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Handled via the RU wiki. --Pcj (talk) 16:16, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You forgot to set the email blocking option. Also, the Rusy233 sm and Vandalizme accounts are also to be blocked. And, a suspicious account Virys233 appeared yesterday, apparently impersonating VirysD25. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 16:23, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I will leave that to you. You need to unblock and re-block with the proper settings to get the global block to show up properly. --Pcj (talk) 16:43, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You've sent two applications and they're both on the books :P the staff have sort of taken the route of accepting GRASPers when they need them tbh you probably would have accepted you if you were on Slack, but because you weren't they don't really know you . Slack is being used over Discord mostly just because there's ~650 users on Slack and migrated them all would be difficult at this point. Also, the way they have it set up, the channels would be difficult to do on Discord. There's a hundred or so of them and the way Discord is, they'd all have to public, making it hard to navigate, or be private, making staff have to make a role for each channel in order to access it which would be complicated. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 20:40, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * What are the complete requirements and procedures for joining Gamepedia Slack? Will I have to register an account somewhere else? If so, what kind of info do I have to provide? If I have to provide my real name, will it be publicly available? --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 06:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * All you need is to a email address and a nickname (no need to provide your real name anywhere). Your invitation should be accepted soon after sending it in (by Gamepedia staff, they just confirm you are Gamepedia user). More information can be found in here. piotrex43 (Talk page) 07:25, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * To clarify, Slack accounts are not shared among Slack communities, right? --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 08:42, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, you have to register at each workspace individually with an email address and password. I have a Slack account, but it doesn't allow me to login globally into Slack. So I guess they aren't shared, no, to my surprise I might add. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 08:49, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

A new abuse filter (ID 24) has been created specifically against the Replicators on the Russian wiki (the previous filter was revisioned as a general vandalism filter). But, the actions there are way smaller than on this wiki right now. I think that creating new abuse filters here should significantly help, as with the Russian section. And, of course, don’t forget to include “Rusy233 ms”, “Vandalizme” and “Alisa Selezneva” phrases into the filter should one be created here. I would like to personally supervise its creation (so it becomes compatible with the Russian filter) but I don’t have enough permissions, and I won’t have them even if I would be accepted into GRASP. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:11, 23 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Rusy233 ms and EnderMamix were previously temporarily unblocked as part of an experiment. But it didn’t produce any productive results, and they were reblocked again. The Replicators were last seen putting advertisements in their Curse user profiles, which again confirms their spam potential (see also an ancient topic). —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:04, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * And now the Replicators are again trying to do their typical activity (advertisements, complaints about innocence, reverts) although the scale of vandalism is now less severe because of a properly configured abuse filter, which also checks the summary (such a setting was successful in repelling the January 6 wave). —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:11, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Mob/video note
On the page Mob/video, I noticed that the tameable mobs video said that there were 3 tameable mobs. So, I put a video note saying that the video is outdated because llamas and parrots were added in 1.11 and 1.12. However, it didn't allow me to save my changes, but instead had a message box in red:

"Your action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. A brief description of the matched abuse rule for your action is: Disallow editing /video subpages If you believe your edit was constructive, please post a message on the admin noticeboard or notify an admin directly." --Madminecrafter12 (talk) 14:54, 7 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Video pages themselves cannot be edited; put video notes on the main article pages where it is transcluded instead. -- Orthotopetalk 21:38, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The problem is that there are multiple videos on the mob page, and all of them are just under one template:, meaning that if I added a note before that template, the note would appear before all of the videos, rather than before specifically the tameable mobs video. The video notes for every video shown on the page is under Mob/video, rather than the mob article page, meaning that as far as I know, the only way to make a video note for a multi-video set is to edit the video page itself, which is disallowed.--Madminecrafter12 (talk) 14:31, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Archive time
This page is getting pretty big. – Nixinova   02:06, 17 December 2017 (UTC)


 * The last archive was made almost six months ago in July 2017, and since then, 94 (now 95) sections have accumulated on this noticeboard. Taking a look at all the archives, this is the most amount of sections the Admin noticeboard has held, with the next five archives with the most number of sections are archive 24 at 72 sections, archive 21 at 66 sections, archive 19 at 59 sections, and archive 9 and 10, both at 54 sections. I think we are past due for an archival of the Admin noticeboard, since many the old sections above have already been resolved and hence no longer need to be on this page. 130.126.255.11 11:31, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree, but the sections that haven't been solved yet (which are solved?) should be isolated first. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 12:34, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering whether any of our bot operators would be interested in running an archival bot, preferably one that's able to archive any talk page that's opted in to auto-archival, like the system used for Wikipedia. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:16, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * That would be possible. In my case, Pywikibot even has its own archival script. As for the archival itself, how should we archive at all? Copy and paste old topics into a brand new page, remove them from the current page afterwards, or move the page itself and then move current topics back into the original place? The first method is simpler, whereas the second allows to keep the flow of history intact. —  <b style="line-height: 19px; letter-spacing: 1px">BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 15:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I was wondering myself as well. I haven't been around enough to know how pages are archived, but the latter sounds better to me. Preserving history is good. But the active discussions, yes I see them as a problem for the process, like I said, I don't know how it's usually done. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 16:08, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Copying is preferable to moving. It's far simpler for a bot (or an editor) to manually select and copy old topics to an archive than it is to move the whole page and have to copy individual, active topics back, and that breaks the premise of keeping history with the associated topics anyways, since unless you're an admin and feel like polluting the delete log, there is no way to split a page's history in order to keep the history of a particular discussion all together (and even if you are an admin and don't mind polluting the delete log to do that, in the process you'll also add to individual diffs: each diff is associated with a full page text, and when you split between diffs like that, then any intervening changes still have to be represented in the resulting, split history, which means suddenly diffs will have extra changes associated with them). All things considered, it's far preferable to keep all relevant history on the main talk page (needless to say, I've never liked the habit on this wiki of moving talk pages to archive them, mostly for these reasons).
 * The real solution, of course, would be to have a forum-style talk page solution, but the Wikimedia Foundation (the organization responsible for developing MediaWiki, the software which runs this wiki) has been working on that for a decade or more with LiquidThreads and more recently Flow, and they still don't have much to show for it. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:59, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Wow, a lot of that I couldn't follow I'm sorry. But I think your main point is that when a page is archived but still has active discussions, either the active or inactive ones are going to break history. I get that much and it's sad. Then what about this idea. Instead of archiving the whole page, have individual sections semi-archive themselves by keeping them hidden on page, by collapsing the text. I imagine it would work like adding  between the === symbols and the title of the section's header, and it would automatically collapse the section's text and convert the header into a toggle link. It would be nice if that'd also automatically reposition the section into a collection box on the page, similar to how reflist works. I wonder how all that would look/work. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 20:50, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Something like wikipedia:Template:Hidden archive top with its bottom variant, although that would not solve the page getting too long to load. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 22:12, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


 * That doesn't actually solve any issues: the content is still on the page, and still has to be loaded every time the page is viewed, or every time someone needs to edit the entire page instead of just a section, for whatever reason. And if the idea is to hide concluded discussions until all the current discussions on a page have been concluded and the page can be "safely" renamed, then that won't work for pages like this one or the community portal where discussion can be expected to happen continuously. No matter how you look at it, the simplest, sanest solution is to just archive individual sections as they become inactive.
 * Don't worry too much that you couldn't follow my comment; I did a terrible job at explaining myself. =) The main takeaway should be that the history issues are a red herring and generally shouldn't dictate how archival is done. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 13:32, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Someone? It's already 2018. – ITechieGamertce 14:43, 18 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I think we should start ticking all the unfinished problems as quick as possible. Then archive it. Skylord wars (talk) 09:20, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed. I've made a start. I've separated the currently still active subjects and moved them to the bottom of the page with explaining message boxes and due editor warnings in the source. Please help marking other subjects as still active, by moving them into this new section if you see they aren't resolved yet. I've done those already of which I know are still unresolved, but I'm not sure about the rest. After we have consensus about all of these someone can archive the above section.
 * The reason why I chose for this approach is because this way archiving is reduced to copy-pasting one continuous section of content without the need of modifying it. Just move each subject between the two sections to make the distinction. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 21:19, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


 * All right, I went through all subjects on this page and I believe all remaining ones in the above section, are resolved and ready to be archived. If anyone can tell I made a mistake with any of them, please correct me. I'll leave the archiving itself to someone else, I'm not sure how to do that. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 22:25, 30 January 2018 (UTC)