Talk:Log/Archive 1

Applewood?
I know we have gotten used to calling it oak, but without it being called oak wood in the tooltip shouldn't it be called applewood now? I am still going to call it oak personally. But then again, I still call Chickens Ducks and Sugar Cane Reeds. I've heard some good arguments either way though, so a note on the page somewhere might be in order. TheCakeisAlive 20:50, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Until there is some official source that calls it one or the other, we may as well leave it the way it is now. Dark wood, birch, and jungle trees are all mentioned by name in patch notes and various tweets by notch and jeb_, but oak trees are never named. No need to go through the trouble of renaming it on the wiki, especially since oak is so common a name. I'd feel free to add a note that some call it apple, though. — MK (c/t) 21:47, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It is now being called Oak Wood in the tool tips as of 1.3.1. --50.12.192.144 04:47, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Should be named "Trunk"
This should be called "trunk"; trees are the structures built of trunk and leaves made by the map. See tree SteGriff 10:38, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I disambiguated and tidied up. SteGriff 10:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Needs a better image, but I don't know how to make them, so...


 * All Kids Love Log! :) --JellyfishGreen 10:15, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * And officially tagged "Wood" in the Beta pop-up text. --JellyfishGreen 08:40, 22 December 2010 (CST)

Trivia
I just tried the fireplace trick and my log burned up. I have my log completely surrounded by rock other than one face and lit one block in front of it on fire and my log was consumed. --Youassassin 12:47, 3 December 2010 (CST)
 * Sometimes (at least for me) logs/wood will burn up no matter what. You just need to place a new one and try again. It can take a few tries. Jax-Kenobi 15:45, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be pointed out that counting the rings on real trees tells you its age in years. in minecraft, doing this won't work. --Rahmspinat 13:41, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Unstakable
Trunks seems unstackable in a brief "WTF" moment in a smp server. -it is not different trunks. Upgrade?

Wooden Planks
"In Survival mode, wood blocks drop 3 - 5 Wooden Planks when mined."

I'm pretty sure it's gives exactly 4 wooden planks and you don't get them by mining, you get them by crafting :O

The guy that wrote that said about Survival test, an early version of Minecraft. C ali nou - talk × contribs » 10:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Different Types of Wood
Is there any difference between the three types of wood? –The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bubbs3 (Talk&#124;Contribs) Please sign your posts with


 * Nope. They all craft the same Wooden Planks.  The only difference is aesthetic.  Verhalthur (talk)(contribs) 21:00, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Jungle wood
In patch 12w3a a jungle biome was added, with new tree trunk blocks. I don't have a texture from them that would look any good, so could someone add it? 71.197.221.191 19:04, 19 January 2012 (UTC)Xmzolfm

I propose to name it a Jicaro log/tree/wood. http://www.forestlight.co.uk/catalogue/703.html 131.95.1.188 23:34, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I think that Mahogany fits better. This is based on the    thick trunks that these spawn with and the colour of the wood produced by it: http://www.cites.org/I/news/mahogany_big.jpg  The cocoa beans are the only thing that don't fit but they come from the Theobroma cacao, which is a much smaller plant: http://www.chocolate.org/choctree.jpg --neinome 04:02, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Crafting quantity count?
I'd like to question some of the crafting counts.

The table in the article says that you get 8 swords from one wood block.

If I count correctly: one block -> 4 planks; two planks for the stick, and two planks for the blade gives one sword.

I'd also like to question 9 wood blocks needed for torches; I'm pretty sure it's at most two wood blocks; one gives one charcoal, one gives lots of sticks, for 4 torches from one charcoal.

Finally, doesn't the new version give 6 wood slabs for one wood block?

Keybounce 05:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * It looks like the listed how much wood was needed to craft a given type of item and have no planks/sticks left over, but this was never explicitly stated. For torches, you'd turn one wood block into 8 sticks, burn the rest into 8 charcoal, and make 32 torches. The 'ratio' column makes more sense with that table. I'll fix it for consistency (minimum wood to produce at least 1 of a given item), but the original table design is arguably better. Any opinions? -- Orthotope 08:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

How do we rotate logs?
"As of Minecraft 12w30d, logs became rotatable." Have they just added support for the logs to be in the rotated positions? Or have they implemented a vanilla way to do the rotating? (If the latter; how?) Do/will branching trees spawn rotated? Cultist O 22:57, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Orientation depends on the player's facing when placing them, similar to pistons; there's no way to actually rotate them in place. Haven't checked to see if they generate in large tree branches yet. -- Orthotope 00:41, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * This appears to have been implemented in single player for ver 1.3.1. --50.12.192.144 04:51, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I am in 1.3.2 and it is implemented and working but there seems to be a design flaw in the way orientation is determined. Rather than orientation being a result of the facing of the block face my cross-hair is pointed at, it's determined by my character's facing, and the angles are written such that it is, as best I can tell, completely impossible to place a vertically oriented log at face-height, even with squeezing up close, jumping, or standing on other blocks to get a boost. This is really, really frustrating because I like to use vertical wooden trunks decoratively incorporated into corners in halls, especially mine tunnel halls, and I cannot find any way whatsoever to place the blocks in that position in a room with a ceiling height of less than four. If anyone can come up with a work around it would be very appreciated. 173.74.157.18 02:58, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I usually dig down a block or two to place a log with the desired orientation, however in the latest update (1.4.5) the 'default' placement has been changed - or seems to be. I came to this article looking for the 'official' way to place a log with the orientation I want and didn't find it.
 * The information on 'how to place logs with the desired orientation' needs to be added to the main article.

Jeanjaz 10:22, 12 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The orientation now depends on which face of a block you place it against: put it on the top or bottom of a block and it will be upright, put it on the side and it will be horizontal, with the cut end facing that block. I added this to the history section, but it wouldn't hurt to work it into the main text as well. -- Orthotope 10:41, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Rotated blocks: Damage value+12
Should there be an item in the trivia about the 6-sided wood block when you add 12 to its normal data value?-- quadrplax 02:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll add it to the page, as a chart, and base it off the potions data value chart. --Soandso2 14:45, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Most important block in Minecraft.
I honestly think its the most important. You cant make tools without it. Tools are essential for survival. You also need it to make torches, witch is also essential. Ive heard alot of people say diamonds. Diamonds are pretty useless without sticks.

I disagree about diamond being useless without sticks, there is diamond armor you know, but I agree about it being most important block. 99.174.200.114 01:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Wood in different Biomes
I saw that it was said basically Oak was only found in Biomes which are relatively-forested (including very-specifically the "Forest" Biome, of course). But aside from All those now in 1.7.2, it seems it should be mentioned they are also found most-commonly, throughout the Overworld, including also the River "technical Biome," the Ocean Biome (I dunno about Deep Ocean, I've not Explored them, enough) on its islands (if also rarely, like Rivers), and ok, now the New, Biomes.

Extreme Hills"+," not just Extreme Hills (and both of which also seem to have some Spruce, now), Roofed Forest (which has basically 3 kinds of Trees, And the Giant Mushrooms, Both kinds), and Some kind of Savanna (Plateau) and possibly for what little I've found yet the "Mesa (Bryce) (Plateau [F])" as I had to label it among a List of 18-20 "real," separate Biomes. Chop safely! Yilante 50.1.134.10 05:07, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

PS3 Render Blocks
Dear Majr,

I hear that you are good at rendering blocks. Can you please render all of the "bug blocks" that are in the PS3 Edition?

Sincerely,

174.130.7.124 01:44, 7 February 2014 (UTC)SquareMan78649

PS3 pre-TU14 data values
I want to make a table for PS3 pre- bugged log data values. While you discuss, I will remove the section, and make the table in my userspace. Nobody protests?

Hint: use Comment so I can clearly see the responses.

– Naista2002 ᐸ Talk Contribs  12:46, 25 September 2014 (UTC)


 * : I don't see the point in discussing the behavior of bugs, especially since previously there was a similar bug in the PC edition that we also did not note, and it has become fixed recently.
 * --KnightMiner  (t 16:01, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I shall keep that article in my userspace, as of a historical interest.
 * Hmm... Is it allowed to link userspace pages from mainspace articles?
 * – Naista2002 ᐸ Talk Contribs  18:18, 25 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Generally if a link is required, the content should be in the main namespace anyways. --KnightMiner  (t 18:37, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

burn time fixed in 1.9
in 1.9, wooden slabs burn time was halved, so that they burn at half the speed of wooden planks. Sticks burn even slower, so its wood-wize, it's neither more nor less efficient to craft your planks into slabs before burning them. TheMaskedCrusader (talk) 22:24, 11 August 2016 (UTC)


 * You are right – but is there something on this page or some other page (slab, wood planks, smelting, etc.) that should be corrected? I am not seeing it. –  Sealbudsman talk/contr 16:25, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Is it possible to have bark blocks files?
Hi! We all know that 1.13 will change many IDs, and bark blocks will become entire blocks. I think it would be very useful to have the files of these blocks :) Yanis48 (talk) 16:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Why removed upload template?
Personally I have no idea as it seemed quite appropriate to me. But you don’t have to wait for someone else to do it, with the help of the tools provided here it is really simple to do it yourself. You will have to create an account to upload your work though. Finding the classic 0.0.14 jar will be difficult. – Fusseel 11:54, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Move this article to "Log" when 1.13 released.
Wood is renamed to log on 17w47a. So move it when 1.13 released. HaydenBobMutthew (talk) 13:49, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It will be moved tomorrow (July 18, 2018)! Hayden Bob Mutthew   Talk  15:43, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Splitting the page
This was proposed on Discord and I'm going to continue the discussion here. So basically, with the addition of stripped bark in 1.13-pre2, this page is getting rather large and covers a total of 24 blocks. I see 4 options of what to do with the page (adding one from the 3 that provided on Discord):


 * 1) Keep Logs, Stripped Logs, Bark, and Stripped Bark on the same page, which is how it is currently
 * 2) Separate into a page called Logs, which also contains Stripped Logs, and Bark, which also contains Stripped Bark
 * 3) Separate into a page called Logs, which also contains Bark, and Stripped Logs, which also contains Stripped Bark
 * 4) Give Logs, Stripped Logs, Bark, and Stripped Bark each their own page

I personally support 2 and I feel like this was the most supported on Discord as well.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 13:23, 15 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Leaning towards 4, but I'd be fine with 2 as well. - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 13:35, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support 2 or, if that's absolutely unacceptable for some reason, 4. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 13:38, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support 3, as Stripped Logs and Stripped Barks use the same mechanic, it would be more logic to have a page Stripped Log • Yanis48 (talk) 14:21, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I support 2, it use the same name. "stripped logs" and "stripped Bark", split into "logs" and "bark" it's the best solution.• Brandcraft06 (talk) 14:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support for 2. Although stripped log and stripped bark share the same mechanic, it would be impossible to find a suitable name for such a page. --Pepijn (talk) 14:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support for 2 and/or 4. FVbico (talk) 14:41, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support for 2, or if that's not acceptable, support for 3. – Sealbudsman talk | contribs 17:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Support for 4, if that is not possible then 2. I agree that currently too many blocks are kept on the same page. --Capopanzone (talk) 19:01, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I would personally support 4, but 2 would be fine as well. This page is just messy with all the variants listed in one place. | violine1101(Talk) 23:34, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I will personally support 2, and please note that separate into too many pages will increase our translation work.-- Lxazl5770 zh.admin （ 论 • 功 ） 03:29, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Reviewing and analyzing the comments here. After looking over what everybody's saying, 4 seems like a good option, but Lxazl5770 makes a good point about the translating, and 2 does seem to be more supported than 4 and most of the people who support 4 say they would be fine with 2 as well. Also, if we go with 2, we can always revisit this is someone thinks that we should do 4 instead - at least it gives us a head start with the splitting. Not a single person thinks that the page should stay as is, though. Therefore, I'm going to go with #2.

As for the naming, I'm going to go with Wood and Bark. The current name of the block is wood, not log, in all of the editions. Once 1.13 is released, we may should move it to Log, although it would still be called "Wood" in BE. Moving a page is simple, so I don't think it would be worth waiting until 1.13 is released to split the page, or waiting for comments specifically about the naming before splitting the page. After I split the page, if somebody thinks it should be named log - we can easily just start a new discussion and possibly move the page.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 14:32, 16 June 2018 (UTC)


 * #2. Working on cleaning stuff up now.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 14:44, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Request
Please remove all upcoming templates from this page as 1.13 has been released. ZYSTerry (talk) 12:55, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Use short templates
keeps reverting anyone's edits that add a "short" parameter to the "only" templates. What is your reasoning for removing them? The information there looks bad and having the short names doesn't lose any information. It's only "inconsistent with other articles" because the parameter was only just added and I can't find many articles to add it do so it's sort of a catch-22. – Nixinova   18:31, 4 December 2018 (UTC)