Talk:Bedrock Edition 1.2.0

Has relevance
Update 1.2 is confirmed as the Better Together Update, set to release later this year. Apart from bringing many versions of Minecraft together, it also adds fireworks, stained glass and armor stands. This article should not be deleted as it has relevance. Natejb2003 (talk) 20:13, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It says nowhere on the article that 1.2 will be the Better Together Update. – Nixinova • Book and Quill.png Diamond_Pickaxe.png Map (item).png • 04:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps https://twitter.com/HelenAngel/status/874328540958793728 is a slightly better source. --Pepijn (talk) 04:41, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Page title
Please note the title of this page is temporary until there is a community consensus as to what the new Minecraft versions should be named. Further discussion at the Renaming Project. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 06:39, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

New info
Slicedlime (a Mojang employee working on the Bedrock edition of Minecraft), tweeted this. It's very very likely for the next update (notice the 1.2, for PE/Bedrock 1.2). I didn't update the page myself because I know the Wiki doesn't like speculation (for good reasons), so I thought I would ask her first. People are talking about it being for raycasting (so the axes of the 3 ^ coordinates will depend on where the player is looking instead of being static), but that seems to be pure speculation since I couldn't find a proper source for it. --Pepijn (talk) 21:16, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

"Summer"
Okay I am very confused with the use of "Summer" and "Fall" as I am in the southern hemisphere. I don't know how to fix this as I do not know if USA seasons begin on equinoxes or not. Can someone please make this less ambiguous? – Nixinova •   • 04:09, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I just removed that as it is just pure speculation--SamGamgee55 (talk) 05:50, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * On the trailer it says Summer for BTU, Fall for SDGP. Natejb2003 (talk) 19:01, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Let's just avoid using seasons as dates, they're not great for it. It's not like they're super specific time frames regardless. --Pepijn (talk) 18:01, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Don't see "Minecart with furnace" in ref 37
As title. Easonke (talk) 12:39, 7 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Screenshot from the linked clip - look at the entity list. --Hubry(talk) 12:44, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Aha! Easonke (talk) 15:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Heading
There appears to be an edit war on the header. My suggestion is to remove the "first release" part until 1.2.1 is planned or released. The BlobsPaper.png 13:18, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * – Dentedharp90041tce 13:51, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Certification
Does anyone know how long the certification process usually takes? 75.60.247.50 14:41, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Already released
It is already released, but the page says that it will release tomorrow. – Dentedharp90041tce 18:43, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Just checked all app stores. It is not released yet. The date in question was unsourced, so I reverted it. -BDJP (t 19:32, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Move to Bedrock Edition 1.2
Since this version is also available on Xbox, it is no longer specifically Pocket Edition. The merged version is called the Bedrock Edition. The BlobsPaper.png 23:01, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Since this article has been merged, and now covers an update for multiple platforms, would it not be relevant to change the content of the article to reflect that? Right now the text in the body of the article refers to the update as "a major update to Pocket Edition" with no reference to the other editions. In addition, the topic for "Changes" only lists changes from the previous update of the Pocket Edition, making it unclear if there were any changes made to the console editions, and in the case that there were; what those changes might be.--Mineattack (talk) 12:07, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Infobox problem
The infobox has a "View all" link that's apparently (per the edit summary) supposed to point to "Bedrock Edition 1.2/Development versions: Bedrock Edition", but that is not a valid page name because of the ":". It now generates a Lua error "Lua error in Module:Development_versions at line 36: attempt to index a nil value." I have no idea how this should be fixed.

In addition, the "Other editions of 1.2" section lists Pocket Edition, which links to Pocket Edition 1.2, which is a redirect right back to this page. Should this be removed, or is it being used as a placeholder for a replacement Pocket Edition 1.2 page? --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 22:58, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Grammar
Fixed some grammar: 1.2, also known as the Better Together Update, was a major update to Pocket Edition that renamed it to simply Minecraft, added support for the Xbox One, introduced cross-platform gameplay, and leapt the game much closer to feature parity with the Java Edition. It was released on September 20, 2017, although the full rollout took a few days due to a large number of distribution channels and target devices involved. Support for the Nintendo Switch was also added to the game, however, it was not deployed to that platform initially due to problems with cross-device connectivity and upgrading of old worlds. The target date for Switch deployment was postponed until sometime around the end of the year.

This update represented an important advance in the history of computer gaming in that it extended crossplay (short for cross-platform gameplay, the ability of players on different platforms to play interactively in the same world) to virtually all of the newest-generation gaming platforms. Previously, the Pocket Edition had supported crossplay between mobile, Windows 10, and VR platforms. This update added support for the Xbox One and Nintendo Switch, drastically increasing the number of devices that could participate.

The updated game was also designed to work with the Sony PlayStation 4, but Sony declined to participate at this time. Microsoft said that it was in ongoing talks with Sony about a possible future agreement. Microsoft also stated that it will consider porting this update to Macintosh, Linux, or any other platform with sufficiently strong demand, further expanding the crossplay concept.

With the unification of so many different platforms under one version of the game, the former nickname and epithet "Pocket Edition" became even more outdated than it had been. Henceforth Microsoft intends to refer to this version as the "Bedrock Engine" or "Bedrock Edition" when it's necessary to distinguish it from versions for non-crossplaying platforms or from the larger game-as-a-whole concept. (The "bedrock" part comes from the internal name for its source code database.) Unlike the editions for other platforms, this nickname will not be included as a subtitle in the new official name of the version, which is the generic Minecraft to emphasize its broad range of supported devices. The original Java version of Minecraft, which formerly held that name, was officially renamed to Minecraft: Java Edition in keeping with its platform specificity.

OK???????? What is it harp guy?????? DentedHarp??? --MishMoshKeel21 (talk) 06:57, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * . Next time, you can edit the page itself to make changes, without needing me, as long as it is not vandalism :D – Dentedharp90041tce 12:01, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * The edit was by  for some reason. – Dentedharp90041tce 13:43, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I reverted it because despite you providing 4 paragraphs above, you only made two trivial changes, both in the first paragraph. One was to change the spelling of "leaped" (American spelling) to "leapt" (British spelling). Such edits are prohibited. The second was to change "the" to "a" in the phrase "the large number of distribution channels". Not only was this not a grammar error, since both are grammatically correct, it added absolutely nothing to the article. Besides, the number of distribution channels was a definite quantity, even if we don't know what its value is, so the definite article is appropriate. You also tried to remove the quotes from "Minecraft" in the first line, but DentedHarp90041 wisely didn't apply that change. This is an example of the use-mention distinction. --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 14:42, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Planned additions and changes
Despite the fact that the version has been released, the sections "Planned Additions" and "Planned Changes" still exist. Does anyone know why this is? The BlobsPaper.png 13:44, 5 October 2017 (UTC)


 * It's probably my fault. After revising the lead paragraphs, I ran into the long list of changes. Comparing it to Bedrock Edition 1.2, I realized it didn't make sense to duplicate the list in both articles. I wasn't sure what to do about that, so I set it aside and never went back to it. --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 14:48, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * If the features were added, moved them to Additions and Changes. Otherwise, delete them. The BlobsPaper.png 01:48, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Have we not already been through this?
Auldrick@MinecraftPhotos4U nowhere in the site rules or guidelines is it mentioned that changelogs are to be copied verbatim; as an example, it has been pretty much conclusively decided that particularly low quality issue titles, even if referenced as is by a snapshot announcement, may be edited.

The concern I have is with the bug list's heterogeneity if one issue is listed using a template with a link to the bug tracker while all others are plain text only. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 18:35, 21 April 2018 (UTC)