Talk:Java Edition version history/Development versions/Archive 1

New page for the Pre-Releases
Following some talk on the talk:version_history page, I took it upon myself to make a new page to house the info for the pre-releases. If you see any wikisyntax errors, please do fix them, and discuss any opinions on if this was a great or a bad idea. UGoBoom 18:49, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * So happy to see that PR's have their own page now. Makes more sense considering they are not final versions and can not be the "version history" at that time. --Throex 21:02, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Design
Whats with the design of this page? Looks like crap..


 * Someone removed most of the 1.9 table; I just reverted their edit. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 20:52, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Hardcore Bug
Difficulty of hardcore is determined by previous game setting. If you set the game to peaceful in a creative mode game, exit, and enter an hardcore world, no monsters will spawn. This can be corrected by quitting the hardcore game and entering creative and setting the game to either easy, normal or hard. With those 3 settings monster spawn in hardcore, but they never spawn if the previous game were on peaceful.

Removed "access to Ender"
Since the portals don't actually have an active use yet, I feel its inappropriate to list access to new realms on the version history, and near as I can tell the "skylands" area is a bug and shouldn't be considered a new realm or biome. And its certainly not the Ender. Schizmo 04:16, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Purple border correction
In the 1.9pre3 page it says that purple borders have been added to item labels. This was added in 1.9pre2 not 1.9pre3. Please correct me if I am wrong. EnderCreeper 13:35, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You were right. Nice catch; some people here just do not know what they are talking about... UGoBoom 02:43, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok I made the change I was talking about it should be fixed now. EnderCreeper 03:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Baby Animals
Should they be considered a new mob (they are listed as that now)? I don't consider them a new mob, but a new feature. Just because they are a baby cow, or pig..they are still the pig/cow mobs we have now just babies. --Throex 18:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

UI disappears after F5
In 1.9pre4, the block palette UI is missing from the regular game screen after pressing F5 to cycle the third person views. The UI is missing but dimmed as usual when the inventory is visible. Was this in creative? In survival if this means the scrolling item selection ui this does not happen for me. -java 1.7 x64


 * I don't understand the "-java 1.7 x64" part and it seems your grammar is troubled. And why did you ask a question?. Also, did you accidentally hit F1? Do you have mods on? Head over to the forums if you still have trouble. Also, please sign your comments. DantonDamnark 22:42, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Fortune enchantment only affects some block types
In 1.9pre4, according to Enchantments, Fortune seems to work only if the block would drop a different item type upon being mined. eg coal, diamonds work, ore blocks do not.

Items
Arrows shot with a fully charged bow into Enderman in The End will cause the game to crash. This breaks the world How does this happen? endermen now dodge any arrow shot at them!


 * 1. Please sign all your comments.
 * 2. Please refer any bugs/glitches to the Minecraft Forums, in the appropriate thread of coarse.
 * DantonDamnark 22:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Request for lock
We need a page protection on this page due to vandalism and lower-quality content additions that I've seen by IPs, not accounts. The same protection as Version History will be fine. UGoBoom 00:25, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree and support this notion. More so after seeing the previous 3 topics (above this one) are unsigned and not very well written. DantonDamnark 22:23, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree as well after seeing how badly the page for gold was griefed (the word gold ingot was replaced with worthless idiot etc.) So maybe only users should be able to edit the actual pages, while those who haven't joined yet can put their suggestions in the discussion page. KingFlameTail 13:59, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Ghast buff
Were ghasts made stronger during one of the 1.9 prereleases? --Flajuram 23:11, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Not likely, I think weapon damage was reduced instead.LTK 70 17:22, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Did Ghasts become rarer at some point in 1.8 or 1.9? --Flajuram 08:50, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Pre-release links
Is it possible to make pre-release labels in the left column of the table be links to download that pre-release (or to the site where this can be done?). Would allow for more people to easily use them and help test them for Mojang. That would be great! -Creeper&#39;s Nemisis 18:23, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

New Prelease coming?
http://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/128464871271575553 Jeb talks in a reply on twitter that there will be a new pre release before minecon. "most likely.." -- Throex  '''TALK 03:33, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * More proof of a PR5 or Release Candidate 1..

http://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/128857738330648576 -- Throex  '''TALK 15:50, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

New Camera Angles
This new feature in pre release 5 with "Y", "H", "N" and "M" (I know there are others) seem to be confusing? I know jeb has stated that they were not meant to be there and is probably for bug testing on his part. But why would he need that feature to bug test? I think it was a test of his for upcoming features.. I see no other reason why he would need it. Any one else got ideas? -- Throex  '''TALK 19:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Slimes in pre5
I went from meeting exactly one slime in prereleases 2 through 4 to killing them by the dozen in pre5, all in the same (hardcore) world. I don't know if they were made more common, or if it was a bug that got fixed. Can someone confirm? LTK 70 17:23, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

1.0 RC1
It seems we may get a RC1 before the full release according to Notch, though the tweet is not completely clear on if that's internal or once again public: http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/134618389040726016


 *  : : S A R A T J E  : :[[File:Diamondapple.png]]  : :T A L K :C O N T R I B U T I O N S

Doors
I opened one in prerelease 6 with a pressure plate. So that means it can be openened without Redstone right?-- End erd ude   ( T  •  C  ) 16:29, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * pressure plates provide a redstone signal, which opens the door. Perhaps better wording would be "Wooden doors cannot be opened without a redstone signal", but basically it's the same thing.
 * Unless Redstone and Redstone signals are the same thing, not really, acceptable wording compromise though. 86.174.121.204 14:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Still, on the other hand, it assumes that everyone will know that levers etc. produce redstone signals, which I doubt is the case. Far better is just Wooden Doors cannot be open directly, which is what I had anyway, I'll just go back to that. 86.174.121.204 15:06, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * K.-- End erd ude  [[Image:EndermanFace.png|19px]] ( T  •  C  ) 15:06, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Credits
A Ending exist, get it after kill Enderdragon and jump in the back Portal. (I do it in Creative Mode, it would be takes too long in Survival) I made 3 Screenshots of it.. 1 from End of the Ending, one is the beginning of Credits, and one is the last little text. After it you leaving the End and you are at the spawn: MFG --Criddle98 16:49, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

So why would you lose all exp and levels after killing the dragon? What would be the point of killing it and gaining all the exp? -- Throex  '''TALK 19:00, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe you're supposed to use your experience to enchant your items before returning to the main game? --King Starscream 14:23, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Can't place torches?
Why is it listed in the version history of prelease 6 that you can't place torches, levers and glowstone anymore? I can place them just fine. -- Throex  '''TALK 19:07, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

1.9pre6 Cannot open wooden doors without redstone
You can open wooden doors by lever, button, pressure plate etc. in addition to wiring up redstone. I tried changing the entry, but it has been changed to say only redstone will open a wooden door again. 86.184.4.40 00:39, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Lever, button, pressure plates ARE redstone. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 06:47, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * No they aren't, nor do they require redstone. Nothing on Minepedia supports that. 86.174.121.204 14:13, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * What do they give out? A redstone signal, thus they are just as "redstone" as wire and torches. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 16:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm, how to put it? If levers are redstone because they both give out a redstone signal, then pigs are cows because they both chase after player-held wheat.  The definition of Redstone isn't *just* "gives off a redstone signal", that's just (part) of what it does, it's also, well, everything else in the Minepedia article.  Things can share properties or effects and still be seperate distinct things.  If not, levers et al. would simply redirect to the redstone article.


 * If you say something is redstone, then it means it gives of a redstone signal. It's just a lazier way of saying it, simple as that. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 16:38, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * "Redstone power", "redstone signal", "power", "redstone", community uses all these words to describe one thing. I prefer "redstone signal". — MiiNiPaaT 16:42, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, according to Minepedia, redstone (disambiguation) neither refers to redstone signals (article not found), nor levers. If the community does indeed use redstone as a noun to refer to redstone signals then it should say so, and the same if the comminity does indeed use redstone to mean levers, buttons, etc. 86.174.121.204 17:07, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * ps. Never heard anyone ever describe a lever as redstone! 86.174.121.204 17:11, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * This is a wiki, we wouldn't use shortcuts, just because the community does. So of course it doesn't show it here. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 21:21, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I disagree.. I have never heard of a lever, button or pressure plate being called "redstone". All tree can be used with and with redstone wiring attached.. So with out it attached you have to against the object for into work.. The redstone wire allows you to be at a distance, thus sending a current. So is the lever on the redstone page anywhere? Listed as a redstone entity or item? No.. Disagree - Throex  '''TALK 05:44, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Well I have. Either way it's a null point as it shouldn't be used on the wiki anyway. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 06:50, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

In the changelog for 1.7, notch himself said that TNT can now "only be activated by redstone and fire" and he meant levers, buttons and pressure plates too. And the thing is, noone will say "you need two planks to craft a redstone" but they can say "we need a redstone thing for this" and with the second one they might mean a lever.Jippiedoe 21:39, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Source for isometric previewer left in 1.9pre6 jar
In the 1.9pre6 jar, isom/ contains IsomPreview.java, IsomPreviewApplet.java, Zone.java, and ZoneRenderer.java, which are source for the now removed Infdev/Alpha isometric previewer applet. Http500 04:11, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

B1.9.6 overall performance
minecraft always was laggy for me, and with laggy i mean often not playable on when monsters are near because it was hard to fight them. but pre-release 6 seems to have changed overall performance a lot for me. It's faster than any version i played before and gets even better when i change the new particle option. anyone else having a similar approvement in framerates? --Wally


 * I've seen a minor improvement (though mine didn't lag significantly), but it looks like it's not randomly crashing nearly as much as it did during the other pre-release betas. Anyone else getting fewer crashes? --King Starscream 14:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

"Quit game"?
I don't see a "Quit game" button:

-- End erd ude   ( T  •  C  ) 17:52, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * There is. You might have an outdated mod/texture pack considering that you have an edited title screen background. Somebody500 (有人500) 19:55, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well now it gets even weirder: I just officially purchased Minecraft and now the button is present. And I have an edited backround because anyone can do that; just edit some .png files in minecraft.jar/title.-- End erd ude  [[Image:EndermanFace.png|19px]] ( T  •  C  ) 18:55, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Pre-release .jars not signed?
The pre-release jars since at least the 1.8 prereleases, unlike the regular .jars, does not contain MOJANG_C.DSA and MOJANG_C.SF in the META-INF folder, which seems to suggest that they are not cryptographically signed like the normal versions. This may also mean that one does not need to delete META-INF when installing mods into them; I have not tested this, however. Http500 23:10, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

RC2 Strange object in The End
The End, after defeating the dragon, although I'm not sure if it makes any diference. You can see something that looks like a room with its walls inverted in the background of The End. It seems to be floating in mid-air when going up-down, but stays in the same place when moving left-right. You might need to be in the exact same spot to see it, since it tends to disappear in an unlading chunk fashion when you move around. Secreenshot:
 * I myself was unable to reproduce that. How very strange that thing is... UGoBoom 01:40, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I feel as though this is another hero fine mystery someone is trying to start.. If it was real wouldn't someone else out there be able to duplicate or at least see this on accident? - Throex  '''TALK 05:38, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've seen several screenshots from different angles of this thing, it's not just one guy trying to make some fake thing for the lulz. More screenshots. Who knows if it's on purpose or a bug at this point. Davr 16:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Uh, I didn't know about this. Would someone please link a forum discussion or something? I couldn't find any information. Zahami 19:11, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * i have seen this too, i think.. it kept disappearing when i tried to get closer and i could find the source, too (by chance): it is the "Star Map" in the Spring where you can return to the Main World.. because this thingy has the same form and i could get the view angle in such a way that the Portal Block was visible but the Star Map inside was not displayed - and the part of it which was not displayed was not on this occurence, too 77.4.193.97 21:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

This is one of the few locations I've ever seen this mentioned! I found it first on a multiplayer world, then confirmed it to exist in SSP as well. Still unsure if it only appears after the dragon is killed, but I believe that is the case. Made an imgur album demonstrating it's properties of moving around and disappearing. http://imgur.com/a/oNN5E#10 --Ebkrem 05:54, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Isn't this just the portal back to the over world, but by bad luck the dragon was killed over the void? Bluesword 20:31, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

SAVING CHUNKS ERROR: Ender Crystals
When I press [Pick Block] button on the Ender Crystal thingy that heals the Ender dragon, I get the Saving Chunks error, and then a black screen. I found this bug first! woohoo

~Cake 4:51 AEST. I was first. :)

RC2 Strange Sugar Cane
In my 1.8.1 world, I've just found Sugar cane and I gathered it. I plant these one angain, I wait like .....3 days (I surround it with torches) and it refuse to grow. It happens both in SP and SMP... That's embarassing, because I want to make my enchanter....


 * My sugar cane in RC2 is growing quite well. The only thing I can think of that can be an issue is if you are too far from it while waiting for it to grow. Like, for example, if you go mining in a distant biome away from home (since the game won't update your stuff if you're too far from it). Skaruts 23:13, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Boats vs Lily pads
Boats break when hitting lily pads. I appreciate that they're solid now, but breaking a boat? Unsure if bug or intentional, but didn't see it mentioned here so I thought I'd add it. Fishpaw 23:08, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I noticed this too. I don't know if it's a bug or intentional either, but it turns sailing through swamps into a real nightmare. Skaruts 23:15, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Iron armor doesn't degrade?
I don't know where that information came from, but my iron armor in RC2 degrades quite normally. I think this should be checked.


 * I believe the difference is in the armor indicator bar. I think the armor keeps giving the same protection (armor bar stays the same) while its damage increases (check inventory). I'm not entirely sure, because it seems to be behaving a bit differently in the latest versions, but that's what it seemed to me. (Noticed in RC2 - I will test a bit more) -Skaruts 23:08, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

1.0 came out for update
Check "Force Update".

We should add what changed from RC2 to 1.0.0

Agree. It will take some research, though.

11w47a

 * Has anyone else noticed that when you throw a chest item on the ground it doesn't spin like other items thrown on the ground? I can confirm this is only in 11w47a and not in 1.0.0, can anyone else confirm and then add it to the bug list? LB 02:41, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * This glitch was also in 1.8.1, I haven't been able to test it in 1.0.0. I'm pretty sure it was also in the 1.9 pre-releases. FYIiamaspy162 22:35, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

citation for nightlies
My account isn't autoconfirmed yet but if someone feels like adding the citation for the naming format of the nightlies, the tweet is here Thingg 07:52, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Farmland trampling 11w48a
so, what changed? --Gil2455526 18:01, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

11w48a apples
So I see that they have a 1/200 chance to drop from (default) leaves, but is this on decay and/or breaking them? Less importantly how does it effect the sapling drop?(does it replace it or is it in addition? (I assume it does not happen if you use shears; but if it does how does it affect the leaf drop?) This info is not found on the apple or leaf pages either, though it should be. Cultist O


 * After some testing, they drop both on decay and break, though i haven't had it happen with shears. Cultist O 22:39, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Stability Proposal
Hey guys, I'm the same guy who created this page and I'd like to propose another column to be included in the notes. I would like for there to be a stability column where it defines if that version is stable, unstable, or somewhere inbetween. This is how I think it should be.

Now I hope this can guide noob players who want to play any of these versions on which ones they should use. Tell me what you think with teh and  UGoBoom 02:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


 * , the newest snapshot doesn't work for me at all so it would of been nice to know it might not of worked although I did download it as Jeb announce it on twitter. -- Mini Munch 6th January 2012 19:51

It's a great idea, SOMEONE MAKE THIS!Jippiedoe 21:40, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Please add this. This is a great idea! Cls00 13:39, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

This is an awesome idea, please add it 156.34.164.208 04:35, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

11w49a ender dragon egg
The lack of an Enderdragon spawning item is not a bug.24.165.160.223 18:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Fishing 11w49a
The Fishing bobber now gives off more particles.. can someone confirm that? --Sejsel 13:43, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

What is actually corrected?
Redstone and powered rail correction, does anyone know what bug was fixed?--72.19.121.201 15:30, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

11w49a Pumpkin and Melon Farming
In 11w49a, my Pumpkin and Melon farm has been able to grow Melons and Pumpkins onto plain dirt blocks that I hadn't gotten to tilling yet, although the stems themselves are still on watered farmland. Anyone else had their farms grow like this yet? My guess is its either a bug, or it was made like that on purpose to streamline piston powered farms.


 * Confirmed, I'm also on 11w49a with no plugins (anyone know if it could happen on 48a?) I imagine it's not a bug, but rather a way to make things more intuitive (you might not think to till both if you haven't been told) On the other hand it did make hoe durability more relevant (which I liked.) Cultist O 07:35, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Knowing your jar's YYwWWx
How do I know what the year and week number of my jar file is? 116.14.119.217 14:03, 28 December 2011 (UTC) TheeSpookyOne

Look at the Title screen. In 11w50a it's bugged and still says 11w49a.

12w01a server
The server jar doesn't seem to be working, here's the output:"&gt;java minecraft_server.jar Error: Couldn't find or load main class minecraft_server.jar"Running on Windows from Command Prompt. Java version: 1.7.0_02-ea. SWFlash

Zombie behaviour different?
Title. Zombies definitely seem to act rather differently than they did previously, but no other mobs seem to have any changes. In question, their pathfinding seems to be a bit better, attempting to jump up available exits when attempting to reach the player instead of simply jumping there. As perhaps a bug, they also seem to be incapable of seeing the player when more than two blocks above them at any valid distance horizontally. Shellface 17:36, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This was a feature added in the previous snapshot ;p LB 01:43, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Zombies see through glass?
I was playing the newest snapshot and noticed that a Zombie was approaching me from outside the house. I noticed if from the window and assumed that it saw me through the glass. I know that Zombie AI improved so I am wondering if this was intentional? Dsguy411 16:58, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes they got a upgrade in thier path finding Zombies is not so stubid more "finally" they find altanate ways they can also see through blocks i think --Darkmtbg2 11:09, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Extreme Hills Nerfed
I've been exploring newly generated maps with the latest snapshot, and I noticed that mountain biomes seem significantly less extreme than before. The architecture is almost realistic. Euridicus 06:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Vines now count as solid objects?
In testing in the new snapshot (ocelots) i found that throwing a throwable item/ shooting a bow causes it to stick/break against the vines? Bug?

Vines slowing down bug(?)
I don't think the vines slowing down the player is a bug, should it be removed until it is confirmed if this is a bug? Xilefian 22:23, 26 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree. It makes sense that walking through vines would slow you down. I also think this should be confirmed as a bug before it is listed as such. --67.2.125.114 18:46, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It's the nature of ladders. I'm sure that the vine code is the same as the ladder code but without the collision box, so just like when walking through ladders, walking through vines slows you down. Though, I would have to sway towards this not being a bug. LB 01:42, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Swimming (or Not) Mobs - Bug?
While playing SSP with version 12w04a, I had a lot of trouble getting mobs (specifically cows and sheep) to swim toward me while I was holding wheat. They tracked me by rotating their heads and bodies, but didn't actually move. I had to push them out of the water before they would start following me. I think (and hope) this is a bug, not a feature, and should be listed on the Notable Bugs list for version 12w04a. --67.2.125.114 18:44, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * This bug has existed since wheat was made to attract passive mobs, but it is annoying and should be addressed. GhengopelALPHA


 * I agree, and it might should be a suchlike reason that make Ocelots release particles when they swim. I think they don't have a enhanced AI to swim. SrDonaldo 19:05, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Un, that is not a bug - even the player emits particles when dashing through water. 99.164.78.31 05:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC) (LB)

Can someone explain the'floating chunks' thing?
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Version_history%2FDevelopment_versions&action=historysubmit&diff=243803&oldid=243757

Major Crafting Bug in 12w05a
If you craft e.g. breads by putting in a few wheats and you want to take out all the - with the given resources craftable - breads by pressing "SHIFT" you only get half of the breads you're supposed to get. So you lose lots of ressources which is quite annoying.

Lava Sounds
Is anyone else hearing the sounds that lava makes in this 12w05a update? Or was it always like that? --XZippy 18:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No, it wasn't. I was just making tests in 1.1, and then loaded 12w05b in the same map and started hearing weird sounds. My only guess was that they were lava sounds, as there is nothing else there to make noises (MCEdited flat map), except for a creeper, but the sound persisted after I killed him. Skaruts 14:53, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

12w05a
Shouldn't 12w05a1 and 12w05a2 be treated as a single entry, since Mojang themselves are treating them as a single entry (12w05a2 is not, for example, being called 12w05b, or being given a separate post on their blog)? Perhaps a brief note could be mentioned somewhere that 12w05a was initially launched with a crash bug that was quickly fixed. Either way, most of the newly introduced bugs were introduced in 12w05a1, and not 12w05a2, and so either all of the new features belong under 12w05a2, or the new bugs belong with them under 12w05a1. I would personally favour combining the two entries into a single one with a brief note mentioning the additional bug which was fixed a few hours after 12w05a was released. 109.246.254.186 18:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, someone fixed this while I was writing this. Good show!  109.246.254.186 18:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

install snapshot crash!!
hi i was looking around minecraft wiki a little and looking at the Creeper page when i saw about the Ocelots and wanted to get the snapshot. now i've never used a snapshot version before, and today i did by dragging the snapshot .jar into my minecraft.jar and now it freezes at the "finished downloading" screen!! and no, i did not click "force update"... plz help!!

If you put the snapshot jar into the existing minecraft.jar, that is what will happen. The freeze is the visible sign of the signature verification of minecraft.jar failing. You should instead replace the existing minecraft.jar file with the snapshot you downloaded. —kpreid 13:15, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Also if your trying to mod it don't that also makes it crash for some reason which kinda annoys me since my texturepack that i use is dependant on the hd fixer. if anyone could help with this let us know (Sparda3092 00:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC))

thanks kpreid and sparda! u helped me alot!! and sparda if mojang makes it available to mod snapshot .jar's can you go to my profile (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:5chris100) and make a new topic saying that the .jars are moddable and put ur signature?? tanks!!! 5chris100 04:18, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

with mods i discovered that the only ones that will work which fix texture packs is the MC patcher mods (Sparda3092 18:04, 11 February 2012 (UTC))

about snapshots
I don't know if it is idiot-level simple, but it might be a good idea to put a sentence in the article explaining how to play with these. How to install them etc. for those of us who don't know.
 * I second this. Please remember to sign your comments with four tildes. Euridicus 05:15, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

The spawn egg "bug" dosent just apply to eggs.
Since the start of creative mode if you have a block that changes with damage and you click on one of the damage alterations you will get another of the block in hand. 60.231.3.139 21:15, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * What do you want? Please rethink your sencence and then write again. If it should be a suggestion then use the suggestionthread in the forum MG127 16:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * To clarify, if you pick up (e.g.) some red wool, then click on blue wool, the stack you're holding increases in size as if you'd clicked on red wool again. Whereas if you click on a different block, the stack you're holding is discarded. This also happens with dyes, leaves, wood, saplings, grass/ferns, slabs, and stone brick. -- Orthotope 20:08, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Modding Snapshots
I know there not part of the full game yet but i was wondering why we couldn't mod them since when they are released they are going to be modded anyways. when i try to use the HD fixer mod it just crashes my Minecraft. (Sparda3092 00:53, 9 February 2012 (UTC))

okay i got the HD fixer to work i just forgot to turn off the other modds in my MC patcher (Sparda3092 01:20, 9 February 2012 (UTC))

Should this be added?
Villagers will have a staring contest with the player. Player will always win when the sun goes down.Doggey

...no. --GenericCola 04:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

CLIMBING VINES!!!!
i dont know if its something new or been there for awhile but i typed villages in the world seed generator and i was spawned in a jungle with lots of vines and huge 4 by 4 block tree's that are very tall i went to jump from tree top to tree top when i unexpectedly fell and rubbed up against a tree with vines and i started to slowly decent upon moving forward i climbed up the tree by the fines!!!! (Sparda3092 23:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC))
 * Everything is known. you can climb up a vine if there is a block behind, else it works like a normal ladder except that you can't climb up. you can hold on it with pressing shift etc. MG127 16:56, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

i know i should have said something sooner but my girlfriend came over so.... i didnt have time my apologies for not correcting myself (Sparda3092 18:01, 11 February 2012 (UTC))

Canadian Language
The page lists the random addition of "ay" to various items as a bug, when this is likely intentional. It should be noted that the typical spelling is "eh," though. Euridicus 05:17, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I thought the same thing. Some people must be intensely stupid. 85.81.40.95 14:16, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

everyone knows that canadian's say "eh" and not "ay". "ay" should be in the scottish language. (Sparda3092 17:42, 11 February 2012 (UTC))

That's right Canadians say "eh" and Australians say "ay" 114.73.85.25 16:43, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

More about mods (or my theory for why they won't work)
Ok i just thought of this, mods wont work because they were not made for the snapshots..... in a better way to describe it... you cant get a mod from beta version to work with full release version. Snapshots are basically a beta version for future updates and the mods we are trying to use except for the hd texture fixer mod are made for version 1.1 while these snapshots are basically version 1.2 (Sparda3092 18:13, 11 February 2012 (UTC))

...Isn't that obvious? I really don't think anybody needed that clarified. --GenericCola 04:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

As obvious as it may be not everyone would think this. You are entitled to your opinion and all but please don't speak for others as if you own them and no what they are thinking it just makes you sound like a jackass. (Sparda3092 22:55, 1 March 2012 (UTC))

*CLAPS* Bravo on the zombies door pounding!!!!!
So i was down in a hydroponics room i was making under my hut and i heard a thud thud thud at my door and a zombie moan..... i almost pissed my pants when i heard that!!!! Thats some scary shit!!! Drove fear right into my heart!!!! I think it would be better to add fist movement when a zombie pounds at the door it would make it interesting to see. Scared shitless (Sparda3092 18:47, 11 February 2012 (UTC))

Endeman rare drops
Do enderman drop rare drops? I heard they drop diamonds...--Gil2455526 22:36, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


 * As far as I know the only time Endermen have dropped diamonds was in a development build of Beta 1.8. I don't believe Endermen were given rare drops. Kasijjuf 22:53, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok i tested for myself, almost all mobs dropped as say the wiki, except two things: Zombie pigman didn't dropped gold ingot (only tested once, dropped the rest of the itens) and the most interesting: I tested enderman 2 or 3 times, and they didn't dropped ANY diamonds... not even one, but the other mobs, dropped around 9 of their itens in 2 or 3 turns... Oh and they didn't dropped anything when killed by potions.... --Gil2455526 21:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Could you do another test on the pigmen and remove the gold ingot from the article if it matches your findings? --Moxxy 21:49, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Gotta just kill forty Zombie Pigmen, not just one. -- SrDonaldo 23:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * on 250 pigzombies i got 7 normal gold swords, 3 enchanted gold swords, 4 gold helmets, 6 gold ingots, 115 gold nuggets, 116 rotten flesh. PS the 6th kill was an ingot :P but it also seems that these rar drops drop only if the player killed the mob. i killed now around 1000 enderman and still no rar drop. --MG127 09:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the inconvenience
My brother take the post on the PC and wroted that thinks. I don't really think these stupid thinks so I'm sorry.

12w07a


i have provided an image of the seed of a village and the new clothing for villagers and a baby

what the hell is up with the lightning-system, it's ultra laggy since 07a and makes most redstoneprojects unplayable --MG127 13:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

due to the worldhight changes and no changes to the worldgenerator, the nether has still a bedrocklayer on lvl 128, but mobs spawn above and mushrooms will also grow on the bedrock --MG127 14:58, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

You can now place torches and redstone torches on top of glass.

12w07b
When being higher than the renderdistance one can see the sun below at midnight.

This has been there since the introduction to creative mode, since you could fly above the render distance. Since the world height change though, this might be more prevalent in survival. --67.163.93.15 19:29, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

12w07b Babies!
I have discovered Villager babies spawned in a Superflat world. However, I have tried wheat and apples: villagers do NOT breed. Bug or update? They were the size of chickens. - King_CJ_I (no account on here yet)

They go through love mode to breed,no food needed.~Karmacharged,22:25

Some nights "worse than others"?
I was just wondering if anyone had any insight into what is meant by "Some nights will be worse than others" for NPC villages. Of course there might be more zombies one night than other nights, but I don't think that's what it means.

Maybe an Enderdragon will swoop down and kill villagers like in Skyrim :P -Steam_Punker

I'm curious to know what this means, as well. Maybe it means more villager mating? >.> and "worse" is just a euphemism? GenericCola 08:52, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

High water dropping bug
Don't drop water from too high. This will happen:

How do you install a Minecraft snapshot?
I don't know how to do it. --184.38.110.181 17:34, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Added to page: download the minecraft.jar file, put it in your .minecraft/bin/ directory, and run Minecraft as usual. See Mods/Installing_Mods to find the right place for it. -- Orthotope 19:41, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Snow Golems
In 12w07b my snow golems died suddenly in the nether, can anyone else confirm this?

12w07b Weather Bugs
I loaded one of my old saves into 12w07b and started playing in an area which had been a taiga in 1.1. At first I noticed nothing wrong, but when the weather kicked in, things got funky. Instead of snowing, it began raining (in the taiga), /however/ snow still generated on the ground as if the weather was functioning properly. GenericCola 08:41, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit: I just checked to see if the rain sound effects played too, and they do not, leading me to believe the error is one related to the rendering of the weather, rather than the biome's ability to verify it. Can anybody confirm whether or not this occurs in newly generated maps, as well? GenericCola 08:49, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I am having a similar problem, just upgraded from 1.1 to 12w07b, and it started raining and snowing (which makes sense, I'm in a grassland next to snowy mountains) then when to the desert near by, stopped raining, still snowing though (bug?) 217.164.86.20 06:50, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Could you clarify what you mean by this? Is snowfall (as in the particle effect) rendering, or just the snow which accumulates on the ground? Furthermore, what do you mean by it was "snowing & raining?" What about "still snowing when you went to the desert?" -- GenericCola 04:49, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

12w07b Egg Texture Bug
I just noticed that the spotted texture which is applied to the various spawn eggs is misaligned with the egg itself when dropped on the ground using Q. It is offset to the left, somewhat. Confirmation? --GenericCola 08:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Fixed in 12w08a --GenericCola 04:09, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

giant mushroom bug
Not able to make giant mushrooms anymore, specifically brown in my test.

Stairs are upside-down when placed on snow.
Naturally fallen snow, that is, not blocks. Confirmation? -Verveblade14 21:43, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Confirmed with map seed "Long Live Herobrine." --GenericCola 04:06, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Weather Bug
Can anybody check to see if the weather bug I reported for 12w07b has been fixed in 12w08a? I'll hang around on the map and wait for some weather to check, but we're more likely to get results with more people trying. --GenericCola 04:18, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Snow on map bug (12w08A)
Snow in snowy biomes does not show on the map. It shows instead the same texture as for mountain biomes (Very smooth green and only has very few white squares on it.)

Monster Spawn Eggs not working properly in 12w08a
Hi. I noticed that spawn eggs for Zombies, spiders, silberfish, zombie pigman and others dont seem to work properly with the latest release (12w08a). When I use it I can hear the monster sound but no monster appears.

The egg for Chicken worked. :)
 * You're playing on Peaceful difficulty, which makes hostile mobs instantly despawn. -- Orthotope 08:26, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh my.. you are right! Totally forgot the difficulty setting. Sorry! -- Bl4ckSh33p

1.2pre (Feb. 29.) old bugs vs fixed
one of the most important things isn't still fixed, the tree spawning. tundras have still no trees, swamps too few and birches are very rar. most lightning bugs have been fixed, only the shadow in ponds while genating terrain is sill there. --MG127 20:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

1.2 preview is not a development version
Exactly what it says on the tin. There is no separate "1.2 preview" version. It's simply 1.2, made available one day before the automatic update.

Found bug in 1.2 preview
Was on 256 level placing dirt and server+client crashed.

[SEVERE] Unexpected exception java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 32768 at gd.b(SourceFile:2192) at gd.v(SourceFile:2076) at gd.k(SourceFile:1919) at gd.l(SourceFile:1958) at gd.h(SourceFile:1795) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.w(SourceFile:426) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(SourceFile:356) at dm.run(SourceFile:490)

Should this really be counted as a pre-release?
The way jeb stated it sounds like he's just giving us a link to the full release, before it is added to the launcher for automatic updating. This version would be identical to the full release, and therefore isn't a development version, nor should it be called 1.2 Preview (it isn't actually called that in the game anyway). – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 08:10, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * My guess is that it's nearly final 1.2, but they wanted to check for any critical bugs before pushing it out as an automatic update. Consider the world-breaking bug that Dinnerbone marked as fixed. -- Orthotope 08:38, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

12w15a herobrine?
on the page under bugs it says "Using the Pick Block button on Herobrine causes player's Minecraft world to be deleted." Is this a joke ? --Lab44oss 12:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Probably just another vandal. -- Anoymous712 13:19, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Missing feature in 12w15a's changelog
I've noticed that when walking to the edge of a block while sneaking and then stop sneaking no longer makes you fall.

12w15a Discovories
There is a been lot of mystery surrounding 12w15a, because of the censored changelog. If anyone has any discoveries, please post them here. Virisenox 00:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

there appears to be a sticky piston bug in which the piston will "flicker" as the piston retracts, causing the block to be left extended while the piston is retracted. this occured when i was trying to make a three-going to six high sticky piston extender elevator that is 2x2. the middle pistons seem to have an odd buggy tendancy to do this and i was wondering if anyone had seen anything

i am almost certain that i am not generating a one-shot pulsar with my redstone so it would be apreciated if someone could help -anon

i think the changelog is just a late april fools joke, we got all excited but there were just some inventory additions, but, does anyone think we need to kinda like "scan" the code and compare it to the version before this to be sure? - lordcat33 15:09 18 April 2012 (CET+1)

Not me, but seems like a bug or the censored part.--81.178.150.122 19:43, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

12w17a Sound
The sound seems to be missing entirely, and the menu does not show the sound or music volume values.

Not a bug?
Wasn't downwards flowing water destroying blocks like torches and rails an intended change added quite a long time ago, and therefore be removed? --204.14.13.53 16:16, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

1. I've never heard of it it described as an intended feature. Can you provide a citation? 2. Why should downward-flowing water behave differently from horizontally-flowing water (which does drop items)? —kpreid 18:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

I just tested it in 1.2.5, downwards flowing water destroys items without drops in that version as well. i can post a video if necessary. so technically, shouldn't it be removed? --204.14.13.53 13:02, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

12w18a RUINS single player
Okay so if you ask me 12w18a ruins single player in fact, 1.3 will ruin single player... Here's why:

- Singleplayer is now multiplayer, which I guess is okay, but I will get into more detail later

- What's the point of cheat mode if single player is a server now, just use the give command

- Multiplayer vanilla sucks, which is why single player will suck and these are the details why

- This will cause normal server issues such as major lag during large TNT that some computers could handle in normal singleplayer. even if you get optifine your singleplayer will still have lag. (this is because optifine increases client FPS, not server speed.)

- This makes singleplayer stupid now considering every time I play alone I have to turn on white-list, that's retarded.

- there are many bugs in multiplayer that aren't in single player such as:

- Enderman's mouth - Basically all mob animations - Certain sounds don't play - Block lag if server can't keep up - Mobs glitching, sometimes on mutliplayer servers mob will appear to teleport up and down the ceiling

- banning yourself from singleplayer will result in you not allowing you to join, and noobs might not now how to fix this

- you have change the server to offline mode to play offline, like I said before, noobs don't know how to do this

- no singleplayer mods now considering that singleplayer is a server

- other reasons why I will hate Minecraft - connection refused: Connect

- other many errors like the one that says session.minecraft which makes you restart your client to play again ( You'll have to do this for singleplayer? GAY)

- failed to login: Bad login -.- ( Client restart AGAIN)

- Here's what should be done to stop this:

- Make another option when creating a world such as local host: on/off (Like how you can turn cheats on or off under more options)

- Turning this on will run singleplayer as the new client mode you have made.

All in all, please do NOT do this to Minecraft, I think this is a horrible idea, and I'm sure others do too.

Archesporeus 14:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC)Archesporeus

I agree, minecraft is starting from being best to worse and if Notch (or Jeb) doesn't do anything minecraft will be in danger of being public domain too soon I mean now im stuck on 12w17a because of the server crap.

142.167.226.179 15:25, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * - So basically your main problem is that smp is buggy (in a multitude of ways), and now ssp will be buggy? If you look at what they are spending most of their time doing as far as 1.3 stuff, you'll notice that aside from plugin api stuff, it's primarily stuff to make single player and multiplayer act the same (Which really is what a "noob" would expect), and that a lot of what they are doing to make them the same is to remove the smp only bugs that you seem so concerned about, as well as client-server communication issues and lag.
 * - I really don't understand the problem with there not being mods that are strictly single player, there will be mods with the same functionality, it will just be easier to make said mods work in multiplayer as well.
 * - Cheat mode is what allows things like the give command.... so allowing you to use /give IS the point in cheat mode.
 * - I would imagine that they will try to make things like others connecting and not banning yourself easy to control, if not merging single and multi really isn't the problem.
 * - As far as the public domain issue, could you clarify what you mean? I really don't understand why anything they have or haven't done is putting them at risk for that
 * - Finally please try not to get too upset about problems with buggy weeklys, the entire point is that they can't guarantee that they aren't full of bugs and partial features, they release them that way so people can help test and find them more quickly. Cultist O 04:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)