Talk:Weighted Pressure Plate

"This section is too technical for most readers to understand"
Since when basic math had become "too technical"? —— MiiNiPaaT 20:01, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

5/4 Americans are bad with fractions. ;) --208.107.40.227 20:29, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Which section are you referring to? --96.237.54.85 23:04, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, which section? And what do you mean, "four-fifths of Americans are bad with fractions?" - Creepers explode, don&#39;tcha know? 01:28, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * You're over a week late, and it has since been cleaned up. Also, he meant that 5/4 of Americans are bad with fractions, kind of like 10 out of every 9 dentists recommend certain products and 3 halves of a pie make a whole pizza.  02:23, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

I see that it's been fixed. By the way, "5/4 of Americans" means that if you had 4 people, 5 of them would be bad with fractions. This would not make any sense and is intended as a joke. I fear it might be true, though... -198.228.200.146 22:58, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Players
Can players and mobs activate these? HotdogPi ⑬㊲ 21:22, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * They can't —— MiiNiPaaT 21:43, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Oversight
If I am correct, in real life gold is heavier than iron, but the iron pressure plate is considered heavier in-game. Any idea why this is? Pokechu22 23:16, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Minecraft logic? 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:37, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe it is because it would take more weight to push down the light pressure plate than the already heavy iron pressure plate (since there would be less weight to add before it activates). Or it could just be minecraft logic. br100x 19:27, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Same reason I can chop a tree down with my bare hands. -96.237.54.85 23:02, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Google ductility. Short answer, gold is more bendy. If you hang stuff from a gold wire, it will stretch and bend more quikly than the same diameter iron wire. Aside from cost, thats why they make coat hangers out of steel instead of gold or copper. The same would then be true for a plate. If you lay tons of stuff on a gold plate, it will ooze the gold out the sides like warm butter, while a steel or iron plate will just sit there and take the weight. Its not about how much the plate weighs, its the carrying capacity of that plate.

Actually, I'm pretty sure the carrying capacity of the plate is defined by its weight. The weight of the plate itself counts as pressure. Gold is heavier than iron. Therefore gold requires only a few items to reach maximum signal strength, whereas the lighter iron pressure plate requires many more items. So the terminology is reversed: the gold plate is not lighter. It's heavier, and that's why it carries fewer items. Since the game uses the same terminology, the article is actually correct. It's the game as a whole that's confusingly reversed the weights. Tinalles 14:19, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Merge
I'm thinking whether or not we should merge this page with the main Pressure Plates page. Rather than having it fill up one whole page, perhaps its best to make it fill one section to avoid confusion, and also for convenience. After all, they are both pressure plates. Thoughts and ideas would be much appreciated. –  Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 11:37, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not signed in, but I don't want to but...

They are different. Much different. They are not related to the pressure plates, these require items to be near them to produce a redstone signal. Why Mojang added these two items I have no idea, but it should not be merged because they don't even use the same concept. Completely. --67.209.18.51 00:58, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree merge them but give it it's own subsection. --Sp00ch123 23:14, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * These are only incidentally related to the standard pressure plates, and could just as easily have been called "scales". Despite that regular pressure plates can detect items, they are primarily a switch and mob detector.  In contrast, the weighted plates have a specific and distinct function, that of counting items rather than simply detecting them.  (I might feel differently if either weighted plate could distinguish among monsters stepping on them. ;-) )  --Mental Mouse 00:31, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * . iLeon 15:02, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * too. Itouchmasterpro 15:13, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * They have virtually nothing in common with the stone pressure plate, and only a bit in common with the wooden pressure plate in that both can be activated by items. --92.26.35.207 20:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * 一人のユーザーとして感圧板との統合は賛成です. 42.148.218.74 01:16, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Breaking Noise Cause
"The Iron and Gold Pressure plate makes the wood noise for breaking and placing, even though they are made of metal"

Is this because they are a subclass of Block.pressureplate, which is given the wood breaking noise? Don't have MCP installed on this PC, just hazarding a guess. 207.216.82.68 06:10, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Some help for Russian comrades.
We have a little problem with translation of this item. Or mayby It's only my problem. I dunno. Now, our translation of "weighted" is something like... Um... Constant bonus of weight. So it is plate, which heavier than other plates. I think, the correct translation is closer to scales. To weight machine. Calibrated/counting plate. Or something similar.

Please, can you explain meaning of "weighted" as if I never heard this word before. Examples, synonyms - anything will be good.

P.S. If my Runglish makes your eyes bleed, feel free to correct my post/posts. I will not go mad, but be thankful =) --Mitrill 15:23, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, the item name is somewhat confusing in English! (See the talk page for some of the comments on it, for example on the difference between the iron and gold plates.)  Translating it as "scales" would be entirely appropriate, and some of us wish they'd called it that to begin with.   --Mental Mouse 15:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yea, I saw that post. But just "scales" might be partially wrong cause it's only counting items on it... That's why I want to understand meaning and usage of "weighted" It might be the key =)


 * I am surprised, that "weighted" confuse even English-speakers D= --Mitrill 15:45, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * When you said "plate, which is heavier than other plates", that is pretty much the default meaning in English. More exactly, it would be "pressure plate with an additional weight".  An English-speaker who's somewhat familiar with machinery can infer that the weight is "internal", used in scale-fashion to produce the differing sensitivities, but that's not really obvious.  My guess is that the devs wanted it to be obviously a type of pressure plate, without a paragraph-long name, and that's what they came up with.  (And the names are still inconveniently long, there was a bug report that the default names were too long for the anvil!)  I could blame it on them being native speakers of Swedish, but really, I'm not sure I would have done better.  And I'm both a native speaker and a good writer in English.  Sometimes naming things properly is hard.  ;-) --Mental Mouse 20:53, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * And the main problem about translation... One meaning is about an additional weight, another is closer to scales: weight/mass checking. I thought there are might be some idioms or technical terms...
 * Ok, short list:
 * The straight meaning of "weighted" is about additional weight.
 * Minecraftligic do not know, what "weight" actually is.
 * Technical meaning is not fully clear, but it must be something about counting or load change.
 * Translation SE->EN might be wrong or just unsuitable.
 * What do you say about this point: the first word is "weight", one of the meanings in Russian is about the mass adding. Can it be real, that "weighted" is about change of the load on the plate? --Mitrill 22:52, 29 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know what "Minecraftligic" is meant to mean. Yes, "weighted" is about the change in load (or at least, the response to load) of the plate.  What I'm saying is that an exact translation of an awkward name is likely to be even more awkward.  I suggest that you instead choose suitable names for these two items in Russian.  You should probably keep the "light" versus "heavy" distinction between the gold and iron plates, but otherwise, just try to find a name that makes sense in your language.  --Mental Mouse 23:27, 29 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I think that instead of "Weighted Pressure Plate", it should be "Weighing Pressure Plate". It is a plate that weighs things, is it not? Columbus8myhw 05:14, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Breaking
The article says "Weighted pressure plates can be mined using any pickaxe. If mined without a pickaxe, it will drop nothing." and then later: "Removing a weighted pressure plate by hand takes 2.5 seconds (or much faster with a pickaxe) and the weighted pressure plate will drop itself as an item." So which is it? Does the pressure plate drop if mined by hand or not? -Kahless61 (talk) 21:09, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


 * They will not drop if mined by hand. -JEC6789 (talk 21:11, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


 * That looks much better. Thanks guys. -Kahless61 (talk) 01:58, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Merge With Pressure Plate (again)
This page should be merged with Pressure Plate. They have the following similarities: Do other users agree? The BlobsPaper.png 02:06, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The crafting recipes are very similar.
 * They are both placed on top of blocks.
 * They are the same shape.
 * They are activated by certain types of entities.


 * -- Since the last merge discussion, the weighted plates gained the ability to also measure any entity, just like wooden plates. This makes them a bit closer together in function.
 * I am fine with how it is, but I'd be fine with this too. Looking at both pages, it doesn't appear it would be a big mess at all. One pro is that if it were all on one page, the comparison and contrast between the different plates abilities would be spelled out all in one place. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 04:29, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I created the merge on my anvil. I am waiting for further comments. The BlobsPaper.png 00:43, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * and I have worked on the project. However, two users is not enough to authorize a merge. The BlobsPaper.png 01:53, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * -- I think it makes sense to merge them. At the very least, if they had been one article originally, I can't imagine anyone would argue they should be split. I say go for it. &mdash;munin &middot; Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Stone_Pickaxe.png &middot; 14:39, 12 January 2017 (UTC)