User talk:Tallinu4385

North/South Anomaly
I noticed you editing this in on the Redstone Circuits page(..Noticed the top half getting cut off specifically :D). I was unaware of circuits being affected by it, but this quirk is present in other things too, specifically minetracks. I was thinking about creating a whole new page to document this, or maybe a section in Known bugs? Regardless, I don't think it belongs on the Redstone circuits page, but it should be documented. What are your thoughts? -- prettycoolguy (talk) 02:36, 27 November 2010 (CST)
 * Yeah, I'm not sure how I managed that. I was editing the one section, and somehow replaced the entire page with just that section. I think my browser screwed up, maybe. I didn't realize it until I tried to scroll through the whole page, myself, then I fixed it.


 * For minecarts, it's the "South/West Rule" which applies. It governs which direction a cart turns if it drives from one track onto a perpendicular straight track. The direction a piece of track will curve when there is more than one option available to it is also affected by that rule. Wood and cobblestone steps also used to obey this rule, and would rotate to face south or west if possible.


 * This behavior of the torches can affect anyone attempting to build even moderately complicated circuits, especially if they're working from some of the more compact designs, and there is at least one thing you cannot accomplish without it (double door synch), so it's important for it to be clearly presented along with fairly basic circuit information - if nothing else to keep people from tearing their hair out in confusion! :) Known bugs shouldn't be the only place it's listed. Take the example of minecart boosters - there's an entire page on that subject alone, even though it's technically "just a bug".


 * - Tallinu 08:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and it turns out minecart boosters aren't even listed on the known bugs page, even though it's confirmed by Notch that they're at very least an unintended glitch. I think this occupies a similar place as another "useful glitch". Having its own topic page might be appropriate, but I still think it should be mentioned somewhere on this page, perhaps near the top so people are aware of it before they reach sections that involve it in some way, even if that page is also linked from those sections.


 * - Tallinu 08:56, 27 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you have good points. I think it is too small for its own page, unlike Minecart boosters which are highly notable and important.  If the information was placed elsewhere it would certainly be linked to from Redstone circuitry.


 * This is offtopic, but what do you mean by wood and cobblestone? The blocks themselves always face the same directions in terms of textures and the cube itself can be said to have no meaningful 'direction' because of its symmetry of course.


 * -- prettycoolguy (talk) 03:02, 27 November 2010 (CST)
 * I'm talking about the crafted stairsteps. Six units of material in a staircase pattern. (Recently they were sent to obedience school, and now they will always face the same direction you are when you place them.)
 * Also, the reason I placed the NSQ info right after Repeaters is that you would normally expect that arrangement to simply behave like any other repeater, no matter what the orientation was - but, when facing N/S or S/N, the top torch changes state the same tick as the bottom one, instead.
 * - Tallinu 09:07, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see, heh. Yeah, I understand the relevancy. -- prettycoolguy (talk) 03:09, 27 November 2010 (CST)