Template talk:History

Minecraft mess
So... what is going to happen to this template? It's going to need a whole rewrite. – Nixinova •   • 04:31, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess, the template might have to look like this:
 * {| class="wikitable"

! colspan="6" | Minecraft Alpha ! colspan="5" | 0.1.0 ! colspan="6" | Minecraft Release ! colspan="3" rowspan="2" | 1.0 ! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | Build 1 ! colspan="6" | Minecraft Upcoming ! colspan="5" | 1.3 ! colspan="6" | Java Edition Pre-classic ! colspan="5" rowspan="2" | Pre 0.0.0 ! colspan="6" | Java Edition Classic ! colspan="5" | 0.27 SURVIVAL TEST 12 ! colspan="6" | Java Edition Indev ! colspan="5" | December 23, 2009 ! colspan="6" | Java Edition Infdev ! colspan="5" | February 30, 2017 ! colspan="6" | Java Edition Alpha ! colspan="5" | 1.0.4 ! colspan="6" | Java Edition Beta ! colspan="5" | 1.5 ! colspan="6" | Java Edition ! colspan="3" rowspan="4" | 1.0.0 ! colspan="2" | Beta 1.9-pre4 ! colspan="2" | Beta 1.9-pre5 ! colspan="2" | Beta 1.9-pre6 ! colspan="2" | ? ! colspan="6" | Java Edition Upcoming ! colspan="5" | 1.14 ! colspan="6" | Console Edition ! TU1 ! CU1 ! 1.0 ! Patch 1 ! Patch 1 ! colspan="6" | Realms ! colspan="5" | 1.0.0 ! colspan="6" | Education Edition Alpha ! colspan="3" | 0.16.0 ! colspan="2" | Build 1 ! colspan="6" | Education Edition ! colspan="5" | 1.0.1
 * + Template example
 * Added grass blocks.
 * Grass block can now be used to tame a pig.
 * Items can now be stacked up to 256.
 * Items can now be stacked up to 256.
 * Fire now turn grass block into a dirt.
 * The grass block was one of the first two blocks in Minecraft: Java Edition, along with cobblestone.
 * The same top texture was used on all six sides of grass blocks, resulting in "grass cubes".
 * The same top texture was used on all six sides of grass blocks, resulting in "grass cubes".
 * Sheep would eat grass to regrow wool on their bodies, reverting the block to dirt. Often, the grass would regrow just as quickly as sheep would eat it.
 * With the introduction of dynamic lighting, grass was now able to grow in more dimly-lit areas, not having to be fully lit by the sun.
 * Infinite worlds now contains grass block.
 * With the introduction of snowfall in Winter Mode worlds, grass block side textures would turn snowy-colored when the block was under snow layers.
 * The grass texture around the sides was given the same biome-dependent hue as the top texture, when in Fancy Graphics mode.
 * Grass blocks first became obtainable in Survival mode through use of the Silk Touch enchantment, introduced with the new enchanting system.
 * The top textures of grass and snowy grass were slightly changed, to look more fitting with standard biomes.
 * The side texture was slightly changed.
 * Slabs were changed so that they no longer reverted grass blocks beneath them to dirt, allowing grass to spread to and from underneath.
 * Grass block removed.
 * Added grass blocks.
 * Realms now require a grass block.
 * Added grass blocks.
 * Grass blocks are now used to punish students.
 * }
 * I also added "Education Edition" to see what it would looked like in the future. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 06:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I also added "Education Edition" to see what it would looked like in the future. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 06:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Something like that, but Console Edition is being split into Minecraft and PS Editions and I dont wanna be punished by a grass block :( – Nixinova • Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png • 06:46, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Console edition will continue to exist on PS4 and older console. Current Xbox One and Switch players will be able to keep the current console versions, but they won't be sold anymore on the Xbox/Nintendo stores. It's unclear if these two version will continue to get updates along PS4/older consoles, but I'm quite positive they will.


 * IMHO Minecraft - Minecraft: Java Edition - Minecraft: Console Edition is fine --Capopanzone (talk) 09:47, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * A while ago, I was experimenting on my sandbox with placing coloured edition rows to make the history table clearer for users. I guess it could be adapted for the new naming scheme. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 13:45, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I've updated these tables on my sandbox with the potential new naming scheme, and I've got two versions - one with increased header font size and one with normal header font size. Please provide opinions. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 14:00, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I like test 1, with the slightly bigger headers. Either way is good though. The colors look nice in my opinion. Header names too. Does it auto-sort the things to the right place in the table, or does it have to be put in that order? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 14:28, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Auto-sort is a good move, in my opinion Minecraft→Java Edition→Console Edition is better than Java Edition→Minecraft→Console Edition, but I just created the "all color" version of the table, for comparison you can find it on my sandbox page. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 02:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I prefer the colour only in the header as it otherwise seems to cluttered to me. Regarding auto sort, I don't know how this would be done (I did it manually) but I guess KnightMiner has implied below it could be possible. I wouldn't be opposed to keeping Java Edition at the top either as it is the oldest section and generally the largest. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 04:48, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I also prefer test 1, but I think to header font should be bigger, and I think they should all be the same color to promote the notion of equivalent importance. Won't we need a PlayStation Edition section too? – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 12:16, 17 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Once the template is updated, we may want a bot. Can or  do this. The BlobsPaper.png 14:04, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I admittedly have not been very active lately, so I am not sure when I would be able to make any changes. I only just happened to log on today to see this message. I am sure it would be possible for me to write something to transfer the header names over, but wanting to reorder them as well makes things a bit messy. (I personally would keep the Java Edition on top since its the oldest and has the most headers, but I guess the PE/Win10 version (what are we going to call that anyways?) is the main version now). – KnightMiner  t/c 21:44, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Holy Alisa. What a big template. I think we should consider placing all stuff for Java/PC edition, unified portable edition and old console editions into three separate columns. This change would allow for a proper chronological scale and for easy comparison of a single object’s histories in different editions. —  NickTheRed37 (talk) 14:40, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Using columns would actually lead to the table becoming longer, because the current version column already takes a lot of space and then having 3 versions side by side would actually lead to six columns side by side. With the Gamepedia sidebar visible for most users and also many users using the wiki on smaller devices (e.g. tablets), this really isn't a viable alternative. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 02:37, 17 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I could see the possibility of columns, if we hid the actual details, only showing one column at a time. Here's a rough mockup: 1, 2
 * The columns can collapse down on smaller screens, so it would fit on mobile just as well. Main issue would be the rows wouldn't line up when they up take multiple lines, as the tables are actually separate. Whether hiding details is actually desirable is the question.
 * I think the colours are good in the header, although I think we should swap pe and java, as orange is already the established pe colour.
 * Auto-sorting would only really be possible if the entire section was a single template, which would certainly make VE happier, but otherwise I don't know how usable that would be. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 05:58, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I suppose that could be a good option to have them side by side and collapsible as it could prevent the history table from taking up as much vertical space as it currently does on pages such as Zombie. Is there any chance of you making a working test on the wiki?
 * I notice you've left space potentially for a logo, but is there a real need for them? Personally I think the text version descriptors are enough.
 * In regards to the colours, I was thinking of assigning the new combined Minecraft version the green colour as its now more or less the main version. Apart from the orange colour used on the main page, is the orange colour really used anywhere else? I suppose either colour would work but I'd like to see more community discussion on this matter. –Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 01:13, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


 * TBH, I don't know how viable the design is, so unless there's some interest towards it, making a functional test probably isn't worth it.
 * I just put that in as a possibility afforded by the design. I don't know if we even have icons for the different editions, PE and CE just use all the platform logos.
 * It's only really the main page, but changing the colours could be confusing. I don't see why green is any more of a main colour than orange. I don't have a strong opinion either way. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 06:45, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Education Edition
Could someone add the education edition to the template? Seeing as we don't have version pages for the education edition for now at least, clicking on the version number can just redirect to the Education Edition page. –Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 04:55, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Not that ready for Education Edition, it has less information than any other editions due to lack of access into the game. We don't know yet about the first version of the game, also the Education Edition 1.0.1 has not been created until now, we should consider a version page for the Education Edition before making any changes to the template. The changelog for 1.0.1 can be found in here. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 05:54, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I just loaded up the trial version of the Education Edition (you can open it up to 10 times) and it has the exact same features as the latest Pocket Edition/Windows 10 version, plus the version exclusive ones. I don't think it's necessary to have version pages for the Education for this reason, however having an Education Edition section of the history template to point out the version exclusive features on their respective pages (e.g. the Allow and Deny blocks) should be fine to do. –Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 12:43, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think the problem now is we don't know which version the Allow and Deny blocks, Border, etc were added. I don't know why you put 1.0.1 in there, but they are indeed not added in 1.0.1. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 13:33, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybe would be in a position to help provide history entries for this edition? –  Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 13:44, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup, I'd be happy to help. Allow, Deny, and Border blocks were in the official launch in 1.0. They were actually technically in the technical demos and betas but there wasn't really a beta program back then per se and it wasn't a public beta really. But yeah, I have the changelogs for the releases and I'm happy to provide them. --HelenAngel (talk) 01:07, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds great, many thanks for the clarification., specifically I'd like to ask if any of the Education exclusive features were added in a version later than 1.0, as it otherwise makes things pretty easy. –Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 06:38, 24 June 2017 (UTC)