Talk:Flower/Archive 1

Yellow Flower
Shouldn't this be called Dandelion? Seeing as the Item template uses it. --Heldplayer 17:52, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It's simply called "Flower" in-game, so the infobox is incorrect. Will fix. --Gnu32 17:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Why Flowers Vanish
Neither this page nor Google can explain why my indoor flower has disappeared. I suspect it was too dark, or not planted in deep enough dirt, or something - can someone in-the-know please add something about what conditions will cause a planted flower to die? TheNthDoctor 23:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching this, I've added the appropriate information from Light. --Gnu32 00:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Likewise, thank you! TheNthDoctor

Spawning condition priority?
I found this flower while mining for iron and diamonds. Might this mean that the spawn conditions for the flower seem to ever-so-slightly prioritise the light level rather than being on grass above ground? Not a common occurrence as far as I know, might be worth noting. -TheWyo 02:26, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Damn, i was just about to post a similar picture. also, i am not good with computer. how do i put pics in? ^super caret^ 21:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I have also found a rose adjacent to lava. I wasn't sure if it was "natural" or if it had been caused by the conversion from the old format of map to the new. I'm glad others have seen them. Jestingrabbit 08:47, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Cyan Flower
Took a snapshot from the youtube video:

No idea why it keeps showing the original when I've tried to replace it with a cropped version. In any case, if anyone can find a spot for it in the article (and get it working right), feel free to add. --Warlock 06:15, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, this weird acting is known, just press ctrl+F5 a few times and it will work.--Yurisho 06:18, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Aha! It's working now.  No idea where to put it since the section is tiny, but maybe you can find a spot :P --Warlock 06:19, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It "acts weird" because you didn't clear you browser cache. Your browser is still using the old local copy, so you'll need to clear the cache manually (in options) or pressing shift/crtl. - Asterick6 02:47, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

https://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/78539168938078208 I just saw jeb tweet this. Thought you guys might wanted to see. --Stabbybaby 03:30, 8 June 2011 (EDT)

"Hardware problem"?
What hardware problem could force them to not have a red flower? 75.118.51.238 23:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

It may be that the Xperia Play has difficulty displaying Red, or perhaps Pocket Edition uses a limited palette, older games such as DooM or Blood used palettes for their textures and sprites. The limit in colors wasn't really noticeable as said palettes were often large and expansive. But it may be that, if it uses one, PE's palette couldn't fit in the reds necessary for red roses. 50.138.213.207 18:47, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Remove cyan flower?
Do we really need to mention something that does not exist, will never exists, and has been confirmed as hardware bug? Really? | TheKax |  Talk   07:43, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No, you don't get it. There is a hardware problem in the Xperia PLAY, and because of that they will add cyan flowers to the Xperia PLAY version of minecraft, but it will not come to the PC version, and because this is a minecraft wiki, and not PC version minecraft wiki, this should be here.--Yurisho 08:07, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * They will add cyan flowers to XPERIA because of hardware problems? Just re-read your last sentence, and think about it. Hardware problem forcing them to cahnge roses to cyan flowers? How can a hardware problem force them to change the color of a flower... Excuse me, that just does not make any sense. [[Image:TK.gif]]  | TheKax |   Talk   16:50, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No I'm quite sure roses will stay, but it is probably something like "we can't have so many ores so we took lapis out and made a flower that gives blue color instead" or something, also, read the citation and tell me what you get from that.--Yurisho 17:48, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Um, how is an extra rose different from extra ore? They're both blocks, they're both stored the same way in the saves, they only look different. Does not make any sense. [[Image:TK.gif]]  | TheKax |   Talk   16:15, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Give over, there's no rational reason for removing the cyan flowers. They have a unique texture, and that's a good enough reason to keep them. Legoless 21:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Crying obsidian has an unique texture. Cyan flower has palette swap texture. Which one happens to be mentioned in the wiki? Think. [[Image:TK.gif]]  | TheKax |   Talk   14:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Huh? The only difference between Crying Obsidian and Cyan Flower is that Cyan Flower *actually exists* in a version of the game.  They both have unique sprites - palette swap or no (and if you are going to complain about that, Crying Obsidian is just Obsidian with some blue specks on top of it - just as lazy) --Warlock 14:25, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * A palette swap is a unique texture. This deserves as much mention as Gears do, as it was in a version of Minecraft at some point.  We just don't have that version.  In addition, we have a developer twitter account mentioning it.  That alone usually warrants the creation of a page.  I would add this to the "Removed Features" in the list of blocks, and possibly add a "Removed" category to items to fully incorporate this.  Verhalthur (talk)(contribs) 14:29, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Um,If you look at the Crying Obsidian texture you can see, without the blue specks, It looks like a dark, less wrinkled Netherrack. Even I know that, and I`m 11.166.127.1.226 16:46, 22 May 2012 (UTC) anonymous FAIL discussion. - Asterick6 06:15, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Cram it, Asterik6. At least I don`t try to make AN ENTIRE TOPIC about Cyan Flowers.Not saying you did, but the guy who did was an idiot. But no, look at the texture. You can see considerable differences from regular and crying.God.166.127.1.227 19:45, 22 May 2012 (UTC)psycodragons

Cyan Flower Image - Replace it with higher quality image?
It should be possible to remotely take a screenshot of Minecraft PE and edit image to get cyan flower image, or backup apk file and then extract terrain.png, but as I keep seing "No speculation." quoted from some users on cyan flower image, so I'm not quite sure is it allowed to add it anymore. Tom.K 10:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Those images are from before the release of the the PE, so they were speculation, but if you can extract the actual terrain.png it will be grate.--Yurisho 11:26, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, It's uploaded, just not sure is it accepted. Additionally, I have grid image of it too, but it seems that grid part isn't in here, not sure how to use it. Tom.K 11:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Official name of cyan flower?
Can someone who has access to the PE jar files find out what is the official name of cyan flowers?--Yurisho 11:53, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Not a jar file. Android/iOS don't use Java. It's in the apk/ipa file, which can be opened with unzipper programs, (idk about ipa though). - Asterick6 02:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Roses in 1.8
Roses seem to be unable to spawn naturally in 1.8. However, bone meal can be used to spawn them so they are obtainable. Should this be added to the page? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/617439-roses/ This group seem to have noticed the same thing. Msaguy 00:25, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Cyan flowers existance
(i'm a bad speller, i admit) TheKax, Tough i don't get why it forced them to change it to cyan, It's there. It's there for a reason. We just don't know why. As for the looks, it does look like a pallet swap, but it's still unique. Creepergoboom64 18:56, 13 August 2012 (UTC)Creepergoboom64

Flower Picture
When you scroll down on some item pages you will see a picture of lots of items where it will bring you to the page of that item. (example: stone bricks has other types of it next to it, ect.) If you click on this page you will probably see a picture of 2 flowers, rose and flower. I think the cyan flower should be included in the picture, too. This shows that there is more flowers. Unfortunetly, I do not know how to change the picture, so I am asking, can someone include the cyan flower in it? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.39.86.83 (Talk) 12:54, 15 September 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * Those images are produced by BlockSprite and File:BlockCSS.png. I don't think there's enough room to add the cyan flower to the other two and still have it fit in the 16x16 pixel space. -- Orthotope 19:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

cultivated
Does anyone else think the word "cultivated" seems vague? Can they multiply like mushrooms then? Does this mean they don't multiply or won't create more flowers? If they can, what are the conditions for this process? I'm sure I had a 'rose farm' in some previous version or other.


 * I've heard a rumor of cultivating flowers, which may have related to a previous version, or may have just been a rumor. I'm fairly certain that they do *not* multiply anymore (if they ever did), and that sentence only supports my suspicion. So I would say no, they don't multiply. The *only* way to get more flowers after the chunk generates is to use bonemeal. --Kahless61 05:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Raspberry Pi
We need to add the Raspberry Pi banner to the Cyan editor. I am about remove the PE only banner and say it is also on the RasPi edition as well GingerGeek 20:23, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Spreading Flowers
Was this ever in the game? Was there ever a version of Minecraft where either of the flowers spread? I've heard rumors about some version near 1.1 allowing yellow flowers to spread in rain, but I don't know if this is true. Was it actually in the code?  LB ( T 04:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


 * As far as I can tell, no. I'll bet there were mods that did this, though; it wouldn't be hard to implement. -- Orthotope talk 05:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I found this while looking through the page history, I'll look some more.  LB ( T 02:58, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I suspect that was misinformation even at the time. AFAIK, the only way to make new flowers is bone meal.  --Mental Mouse 04:35, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Sunflowers en Lavender
I think Sunflowers and Lavender deserve their own page, they will probably farmable and stuff so a lot to tell about them, anyone else thinks they deserve their own page? -- TheWombatGuru   t undefinedc  NL Admin  20:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah; if they are farmable plants and not just aesthetic, I think they should definitely have their own main pages. If that happens, maybe roses and dandelions should, too. I guess we'll see when the snapshot releases. --ThingStuffObject 20:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Tulips?
I searched and could not find any sources that tulips are going to be added. I'm going to delete it right now, but Deblob167 (really anybody), if you have any links please undo and add them. It would be great if tulips are really going to be in Minecraft vanilla. --ThingStuffObject 20:02, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1khmky/yet_another_new_flower_from_jebs_instagram/cbp0ohg -- TheWombatGuru   t undefinedc  NL Admin  20:03, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I undid your edit -- TheWombatGuru   t undefinedc  NL Admin  20:04, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * And again... -- TheWombatGuru   t undefinedc  NL Admin  20:07, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * LOL, sorry, I deleted it and when I looked at the page it looked the same, so I was like, wha? So I deleted it again, lmao....My bad. Thank you for the link :) --ThingStuffObject 20:09, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, this happens more often, next time, first search Upcoming features for references if its about upcoming stuff. -- TheWombatGuru   t undefinedc  NL Admin  20:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll make sure to check next time. Thanks. --ThingStuffObject 20:13, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Flower Farming
I did some tests on which flowers could spawn when when you are using bonemeal on grass.

Note, that following table relates only to flower growth from bonemeal, not generated ones!

Two-high flowers (Sunflower, Lilac, Rose Bush, Peony) cannot be grown at all, but can be duplicated by using bonemeal on existing flower.

Flower forest is a strange one. Instead of randomly generating, they seems to spawn depending on x/z coordinates, which isn't the case for other biomes. 

— MiiNiPaaT 14:03, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, now that you mention it, this is an interesting feeling, going through a Flower-type Forest, when you visualize it on the ground. You feel like each patch of Flowers is a single pixel in some giant piece of probably-random art! (and I updated the Chart, now) Yilante 99.47.21.151 04:15, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Very nice! Are you gonna implement this to the article itself? Its also worth noting that nothing is created when using bonemeal on podzol. --Sanoth 14:27, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

I'd really like a simplified table version of the qualitative text of the main Page. Because, I have a feeling, if done, it would be by Biome, as there are limits on Flower types, by Biome.

I know, that, as you folks say here too, it's Also in at least one Biome by-XZ Location, too! But, it'd be nice to be able to go: "oh, I can get such-and-such FlowerS, in such and such BiomeS."

Oh wait! I see you just Did, that: just didn't do it for the 2-tall Flowers, Too. Nice table!

Thanks, Yilante 99.47.21.151 00:57, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

The table in the main article is wrong for bone meal usage and tulips. When looking to the source code you will find the following conditions. (Double tall flowers are generated only at chunk generation, never with bone meal.)

Flower Forest:
 * All 38er flowers except Blue Orchid. The rose with doubled probability.

Swamp:
 * only blue orchid

Plains (including Sunflower Plains):
 * 2/3 chance: rose, azure bluet, oxeye daisy
 * 1/3 chance: dandelion
 * rare chance: all tulips

-- Mc_Etlam 81.209.202.3 09:22, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Blue Orchid
Is the blue orchid based on a real life plant like the others are? If so, which species is it? 209.7.23.226 14:53, 11 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I believe that it is based on the vanda coerulea --Saanoth (talk) 15:08, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Oxeye daisy or moon daisy?
Hey,my friend and I just found that the daisy in our server has two names depending on who has it. She has it as a moon daisy but I see it as an Oxeye. is this significant? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.241.1.29 (talk)&#32;08:13, 18 December 2013(UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * She's using the Canadian English language setting. Translations are created by the fan community, not by Mojang, so this isn't considered significant. -- Orthotopetalk 08:47, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Warning erased
Any reason the last addition I made was erased? Don't say "bug reports don't go here", it's been reported as a bug and they say "who cares, buzz off". Noting a catastrophic bug that probably won't be fixed any time soon is relevent, especially if people need to change their settings on multiplayer maps to avoid map erasure.

EDIT: Ok I see. "not trivia". Moved it to the summary. 24.68.154.229 08:13, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Shrinking Page Size
Would this article benefit from fewer info boxes? Most are just restating the same information, and with the Data Values Section I just added, are no longer needed. --KnightMiner (talk 17:08, 25 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I made a prototype for what this page would look like in my Sandbox. --KnightMiner (talk 19:13, 3 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Looks good, but the only slightly annoying problem is you have to potentially wait a long time to see which flowers correspond to which dye. Perhaps making a new table with an overview of flowers to dyes would be beneficial. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs Edits 23:57, 3 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Such as a wikitable? or group flowers separately by color? I just tried seperate crafting areas per color, and it looks decent, if not a little long --KnightMiner (talk 00:10, 4 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah those changes look pretty good, I reckon you can bring those changes over to the flower page now. –Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-1em>Talk Contribs Edits 02:41, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Move to Flower
As per style guide, article titles must not be plural unless it's required. tagged it but I reverted her edit, as there was no post there. --<font face=courier color=purple> Naista2002 ♦   18:13, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Already in the admin noticeboard. Laura Fidalgo  (Talk / Contribs)  18:25, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * The admin noticeboard is not a place to post the move request. Anyone can move it. I've reverted that edit. --<font face=courier color=purple> Naista2002 ♦ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 06:21, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * It is the place to make such a request if there's already a page at flower with a history which would require an admin to replace it with this page.


 * Agree on move. &mdash;munin &middot; Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Stone_Pickaxe.png &middot; 08:17, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * But re-routing the links to the new page would be big of a heck. Contact so they can scramble their bots to deal with it. --<font face=courier color=purple> Naista2002  ♦ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 08:40, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Partially moved, but Talk:Flower is subject to the migration bug, so it can't be modified. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 09:08, 1 November 2014 (UTC)