User talk:Amatulic/Archive 2022

How did you make the hoverable text ?
How did you make the text when the mouse pointer is hovered it shows the block/item name and other stats.Give me the exact code ,I want to use it in another wiki.-- ABCXYZ1234    Wall   Contibutions  02:23, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * If you're going to migrate a feature to another wiki, you need to figure out how it's done on this one. Find the feature you want in the page source. Look at the source for that feature. You will likely eventually find a module written in Lua.
 * Spamming other people's talk pages with the same question isn't going to yield any fruit. Amatulic (talk) 16:44, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

About biomes players can spawn in
In this undo you stated that players cannot spawn in rivers or oceans. I just wanted to make you aware that this may or may not be true. I spawned at the bottom of a body of water (don't know if it was a river or ocean) the other day, which surprised me. It might have something to do with rivers being widened beyond their calculated boundaries after generation, which is something I've noticed recently (and which might be related to biome smoothing), or it might simply be a bug, I don't know. — Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 19:23, 16 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I spawned in a small-but-deep pond back in 1.16, which surprised me greatly, especially since the edge of the pond was 1 block higher than the water. A newbie player would have drowned drowned trying to get out! This was repeatable for that seed. The seed no longer generates the same terrain in 1.18.


 * Even if you can now spawn in rivers and oceans, it doesn't seem to be commonplace. The section I restored had been removed with an explanation that a player can now spawn in any biome. I am skeptical that is true. Even if it is, that doesn't warrant wholesale removal of the section. Instead, it should be updated to describe what actually happens, with probabilities. Even something as simple as "the nearest valid spawning biome to 0,0" is better than nothing at all. Amatulic (talk) 19:44, 16 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Oh, of course! I wasn't trying to imply that you shouldn't have undone the edit, just that you might want to fact check your statement before relying on it again. — Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 21:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm just replying to say that I was surprised to get an email notification of your reply here. I don't recall that ever happening before. Something must have gotten fixed in the wiki software running on this site.
 * Now if only someone could get the ping and reply templates working. That is one useful feature on Wikipedia that is broken here. Amatulic (talk) 19:39, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, I miss ping. But I'm surprised you haven't been getting email notifications, I always get mine. I assume you know that if you're watching a page and get a notification for it, you won't get any more notifications for it until you either visit it or you reset your watchlist. When you edited this page, that automatically reset notifications for it. — Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 21:04, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

On the "bred with unstackable item" argument
Hi Amatulic, I'm sorry that I'm mentioning this a little bit too late. More than half a year ago, I added a trivia saying "Axolotl is the only mob bred with a non-stackable item" to the axolotl page. I added the trivia twice, and either time it was removed by you after a while. Your remarks on the trivia was "one rather obscure and useless factoid". Do you think this fact is not worth mentioning, or are there other reasons? The reason I addressed this is because of how difficult it is to breed axolotls, since you have to constantly switch inventory slots as you breed them. Windwend (talk) 01:05, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, one can come up with all sorts of facts that don't really matter, like "witches are the only mob that has a pointed hat" or "axolotls are the only mob that fight drowned to the death". If it does matter to gameplay, then it should be in the article body and not in a trivia section. Amatulic (talk) 01:36, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

How do you patrol a page?
Yo Amatulic, long time no see. I recently found out I have the Pro status, and looking through my achievements, I still haven't patrolled a single page. I have no clue how to patrol a page, nor what it even is, so can you tell me what it is and how to do it? Vwoot (talk) 09:53, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * "Pro" is something that Fandom automatically designates if you exceed a certain threshold of activity here. All it does it put an icon next to your signature. Your activity is automatically checked periodically and the icon can disappear or stay, depending on activity.
 * Before you're a patroller, "autopatrol" is a user right that causes all of your edits to be marked "patrolled" automatically. Generally editors who have demonstrated efforts to combat vandalism and clean up pages to comply with this wiki's editorial guidelines can get the autopatroller right. It isn't automatic. It must be granted by an administrator. I occasionally go to the MCW:ADMIN page to request that autopatrol be given to certain high-volume editors that I don't want to see come up in my list of unpatrolled edits to check, because their appearance makes it harder to find vandals, and it's a hassle to mark their edits as patrolled.
 * "Patroller" is another user right that also must be granted by an administrator. When you view a diff, or view your watchlist, the edits are marked as patrolled or unpatrolled, and you can filter your watchlist to show only unpatrolled edits. This makes it easy to find vandalism, which are typically unpatrolled edits made by new or unregistered users. Good edits can be marked as "patrolled" so they don't appear in the list in the future. Amatulic (talk) 15:12, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Ty Amatulic, but I still don't understand how to patrol a page. Vwoot (talk) 09:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You patrol a page by viewing a diff and clicking on the "mark this page patrolled" link. Or if you have the popups extension installed so you can view diffs by hovering over links in your watchlist, the "mark patrolled" link is there too. That link appears only if an administrator has granted you the patroller user right. Amatulic (talk) 17:12, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

(Em português) perguntas em relação à página de uma artista gospel
Olá, boa tarde Amatulic. Me chamo Mateus e vim fazer um pedido de ajuda voltado à Wikipedia (no geral, na inglesa ou portuguesa). Me sinto incomodado quanto a pobreza da coesão nas minhas escritas em inglês, por isso, estou escrevendo na sua página de discussão na minha língua regional mesmo, uma vez que sou brasileiro e creio que a minhas perguntas serão melhor entendidas desta forma, quando se há maior naturalidade.

Eu gostaria muito de ser um editor construtivo na Wikipedia. Aqui no Fandom, eu administro as seguintes comunidades:
 * TV
 * TV Globo Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Globo)
 * Netflix Wiki


 * Anime
 * Kimetsu No Yaiba

Eu queria poder ajudar a Wikipedia e escrever o meu primeiro artigo. Eu gostaria de escrever sobre a artista de músicas gospel Nicoli Francini. No entanto, é observável que eu não a conheço pessoalmente e tampouco tenho conhecimento aprofundado sobre a vida dela. Sendo apenas um fã das obras dela, imagino que terei que basear meu conhecimento com a ajuda das fontes disponíveis na internet, aquelas que, com frequência, utilizamos a predefinição de citação "cite web". Há bastante informações online sobre ela, ela já pode ser considerada famosa no meio religioso e artístico.

Eu queria que você me ajudasse, se estiver disponível, a escrever e revisar um esboço que eu escreveria sobre ela a fim de que o rascunho se torne um artigo na Wikipedia inglesa disponível para o público. Assim, poderíamos vencer minha dificuldade com o idioma inglês e garantir que o artigo esteja bem escrito, formatado e com o ponto de vista neutro e imparcial que a Wikipedia exige.

Fico feliz que as pessoas que contribuem a Wikipedia levem seus trabalhos com carinho, profundidade e seriedade. Quero participar dessa comunidade que agrega muito na vida das pessoas que buscam o conhecimento. Estarei disponível pra te ouvir, querido. Cuide-se!  Matyh talk  17:05, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Olá. Eu não entendo português, então devo usar translate.google.com. Qual é o seu nome na Wikipédia? Por favor, continue esta conversa na minha página de discussão da Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anachronist


 * Wikipedia Articles for Creation (AFC) tem um botão para criar um rascunho, que você pode enviar para revisão. Eu posso trabalhar com você nisso. Amatulic (talk) 17:22, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, I created my account and did my first edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big_Brother_Brasil_21&oldid=1080677588). My username is Melinahsz.‬ I will keep editing and learning more there, I'm sorry for the delay. I will try to use my user's sandbox as well. I'll call you on the talk page as soon as I feel ready  Matyh talk  18:54, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Why did you delete so many pages?
I kinda understand why you deleted most of the pages but bruh why did you delete light suppression and getting to the worldborder we need that Vwoot (talk) 19:06, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't delete anything, I am not an administrator and I don't have the ability to delete articles. I simply proposed some tutorial pages for deletion, and in some cases I even started a talk page discussion. An administrator apparently agreed with the rationale and deleted them later. These were pages that violated the video policy because the only substantive content in them was a youtube video. A tutorial shouldn't be a youtube directory; in fact ideally a tutorial should exist as a stand-alone piece without any youtube links.
 * I advise you also not to list any tutorials on the Tutorials page or in Template:Tutorials until they are actually fleshed out enough to teach something. I removed links for a few that I found that were essentially content-free one-liner placeholders. Amatulic (talk) 06:04, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Types of distance
In reference to Talk:Tropical_Fish, cylindrical distance is very much a thing in this game XD like for instance random block ticks in Java, which are only sent to blocks whose parent chunks' centers are less than 128 blocks from the player horizontally, aka a "chunky cylinder". By my count, there are at least 7(!) different distance measurements used in different parts of the game: cylindrical/horizontal/circular/2D distance, spherical/3D/"Euclidean" distance, 3D taxicab distance (redstone dust block update?), horizontal taxicab distance (simulation distance on bedrock?), horizontal square distance ("Chebyshev"? "chessboard"? like simulation distance on java, or the shape of the spawn chunks which is a square region with 11 chunk radius), 3D boxy distance (range of raid activation?), and "AABB inflated bounding box-to-bounding box" distance.

Even with Euclidean distance, sometimes it's from center-of-feet-to-center-of-feet, other times it's from center-of-eyes-to-center-of-eyes, and one time in the source code I even found a center-of-eyes-to-center-of-feet calculation! I am perpetually confused whenever somebody says "*this* range" or "*that* distance" and doesn't specify which type XD Or worse, writes "24 cylindrical" here or here, when they either made a mistake with testing, or there is a difference between Java and Bedrock for no reason, or the algorithm changed in some random snapshot. I think it is extremely valuable to always clarify (if known) whether the distance is spherical or cylindrical or boxy, even if this is not "proper" english prose :D I am open to using other particular phrasing if you prefer, as long as it retains the distinction between the 7 distance types. 193.32.127.213 10:09, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I completely agree that it's important to know whether the distance is a horizontal radius, a sphere radius, a box, or taxicab. I don't believe we need to make a distinction, however, between eye-to-foot, foot-to-eye, or foot-to-foot distance; for the purpose of an article the difference between eye-to-eye and eye-to-foot becomes negligible for distances greater than 3 or 4 blocks, so these distinctions don't matter.


 * When I was testing the range at which lightning rods divert lightning (which produced File:Lightning distribution BE.png, I didn't expect to discover that simulation distance in Bedrock Edition is taxicab, but the image is unmistakable, and resulted in my writing the taxicab distance and simulation distance articles. I assume the Bedrock simulation distance is purely a horizontal distance and not a 3D taxicab octahedron because I was floating high up enough above the lightning rod to affect the simulation distance if it were 3D and not horizontal.


 * I saw your edits to the various fish articles and they looked good. Amatulic (talk) 18:20, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

spectator mode on bedrock
In an undo on Gameplay, you reversed my edits as to how spectator mode is not on Bedrock. However, it is on Bedrock in both the beta and full release, and can be accessed by /gamemode 6. – Unsigned comment added by Gamma Eaglit (talk • contribs) at 13:49, 27 April 2022‎ (UTC). Sign comments with
 * I honestly never noticed that! Thanks for the correction. I'll have to check it out. I have reverted my revert of your edit. Amatulic (talk) 18:24, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi I'm new to this wiki
Can you help me expand this article: https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Tutorials/Flat_survival There is a vid by ibxtoycat that can help – Unsigned comment added by BobJeffyJeff (talk • contribs) at 18:16, 16 May 2022‎ (UTC). Sign comments with
 * New? You said earlier that you are User:Vwoot. You've been here over a year!
 * In any case, I think flat survival in Bedrock Edition is an interesting topic. Every time I've done it, playing with my son, we always start out with a chest that's strategically filled with certain items, like a water bucket and lava bucket, seeds, and so on.
 * The outline you wrote sounds like a real grind. While trying to get food, you gotta make a mob farm with nothing but wood and dirt. I'm trying to imagine how that would work without water. Probably one needs a checkerboard pattern of dirt and trapdoors on a sky platform while you gather loot from the mobs that fall through. And I know from experience that even in hard mode, even with a steady supply of zombies coming from a spawner, it takes forever (many hours) to accumulate enough iron equipment to smelt into nuggets for one iron ingot, let alone enough ingots for a bucket or cauldron. I don't believe it's feasible in Easy or Normal mode.
 * I'm at work now, taking a short break. I'll look for the video later. Amatulic (talk) 22:18, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry my bad I am actually Vwoot but I'm worried if my account gets hacked again because my main account got hacked and they got me banned. I don't have much time to work on this wiki so I thought you could help me work on the article.
 * About the flat survival you are right, it is a very interesting topic. I'm surprised you knew about because the checkerboard pattern because you are right about that as well as that is the only way to make a mob farm with dirt and wood that I know of. You will also need to shovel all grass within a 50 or 60 (I think) block radius to prevent mobs from spawning, with only wooden shovels. That alone will take many hours of grinding.
 * However you missed 2 crucial details. The first is that stone is not obtainable in flat, so you cannot make a furnace to smelt iron or gold tools and armor. The second is that zombies themselves have a rare chance to drop an iron ingot.
 * Anyways I gotta go now, thanks for your time helping me with the article and have a good day! BobJeffyJeff (talk) 11:43, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

(discussion continues on Talk:Tutorials/Bedrock Edition flat survival)

Regarding the "enchanted signs" edit on Java Edition 2.0
The zombies carry signs having the same rainbow effect as enchantments, which is why I wrote enchanted signs. I don't see a better way of describing this, and the information should be kept on the page, perhaps using another word for describing it. Timotai (talk) 22:05, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Apologies for reverting you. A lot of people, especially new editors, insert fake information into articles and "enchanted signs" just struck me as too dubious to be credible. If that's actually a thing, perhaps describe it as "signs exhibiting an enchantment-like glow" or something similar to avoid introducing unanswered questions what enchantments are actually on the signs signs. Amatulic (talk) 04:24, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

About mountains
There are rare circumstances that terrain can be mountainous & jagged with a different biome (e.g. Badlands), that's why put in (mountain biomes only). – Unsigned comment added by ArcDusk (talk • contribs) at 09:39, 31 May 2022‎ (UTC). Sign comments with
 * The line about emerald ore was removed completely by someone else because it's outside the context of the terrain features article, and I think that's the best resolution. Amatulic (talk) 19:32, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Tutorials/2520
Is this an actual tutorial? It should have "Pending deletion" if it's not needed/Minecraft or necessary. I can haz cheezburger (talk) 02:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, it was just created today, but I tagged it for deletion. Amatulic (talk) 03:30, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * And it has been deleted. Amatulic (talk) 05:06, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

I keep blanking these random hoax pages.
The creator of the FAKE Pre-classic page creator is "Grand Sohn" these pages are not real versions of the game, if they are real, they have no proof of existing, long story short, I think they should be blocked, from what I can tell, they don't make very many constructive edits. DaBigLink1000 04:44, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Go to MCW:ADMIN and click on "block requests" to submit a block request. I am not an administrator here. Amatulic (talk) 04:49, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

They created "Java Edition pre-Classic rd-270047" and "Java Edition pre-Classic rd-262133", they pages are not real versions of the game. DaBigLink1000 05:01, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Admin discussion
Hello, just a courtesy notification so you're aware – I've started a discussion on the community portal about promoting more admins where I suggested you as a candidate. In the admin discussion last year you expressed that you were ok with being given admin rights, but if that's not the case anymore, please do let me know here or on the community portal thread. – Sonicwave talk  01:11, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

A question
Look from now on I will try to not add excessive videos to pages if it makes you happy. I am not trying to add lots of wattles videos (nor am I wattles) He has good videos that's all One question though, if I find a good wattles video, do i have to ask if I should post it on the page's talk page? --24.144.29.174 01:25, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, thank you for starting this discussion, and thank you for confirming that you're not Wattles.


 * My main objection to the way you add videos is that they are often added without context. So are many other videos, and that practice shouldn't be propagated by new editors who come in. Tutorial pages shouldn't serve merely as a directory of Youtube videos. It's OK to have a small collection of carefully-curated videos on pages, but when they are added merely for the purpose of attracting views (which many are), that's wrong. That is the impression you were giving me (you came across as having a conflict of interest), and I'm glad to know I was wrong.


 * Ideally, a tutorial shouldn't need videos at all. A description of mechanics, a few graphical illustrations. The tutorials I've written are mostly free of videos: Tutorials/Water-powered boat transportation, Tutorials/Axolotl farming, Tutorials/Zombie villager farming, and Tutorials/Flat survival don't have videos, and don't need them, the text and illustrations are enough. I also wrote Tutorials/Raid farming and Tutorials/Drowned farming, and while the article body of each is video-free, those tutorials have attracted lists of videos at the end.


 * So what I'm saying is, if you want to include a video, please also include a description of any unique mechanics described, or any innovative features. A reader shouldn't have to view the video to know what's in it. The accompanying text should make the reader curious to watch it. Just saying "An efficient farm by Wattles" isn't enough. What's special about it? Is it feasible in Survival mode? How does it work? A tutorial page should be able to stand on its own without Youtube, if possible. While not many videos have adequate descriptions at the moment, that isn't a reason to compound the problem further.


 * The best videos to include aren't ones that describe how to build something, but describe the mechanics of how things work. Have a look at the section Tutorials/Iron golem farming &mdash; those are excellent examples of the kind of videos that a tutorial should have.


 * Here's a "to do" list for ways editors can help out cleaning up the video mess in tutorials.
 * Remove out-of date videos. Particularly a lot of stuff from before 1.19 may not need to be in tutorials anymore, although some things from older versions of Minecraft are still applicable to the latest version.
 * Remove redundant videos. If a tutorial has two or three videos that describe more or less the same thing, then only one is needed. Pick one, describe it, and delete the others. I give preference to shorter videos and videos that explain mechanics, not simply show all the steps in building a structure.
 * As a corollary, if you add a video, can it replace one that's already there? And if so, is the video you're adding an improvement?
 * Add context to videos that remain. Summarize the video in accompanying text.
 * If a graphic or schematic can serve the same purpose, the video isn't needed and can be removed.


 * Sorry for the lengthy reply. I hope you know where I stand. And I hope you create an account and become a regular contributor here. Amatulic (talk) 02:03, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tips! I will try to use them next time I edit a page!

24.144.29.174 17:25, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Jungle temple
Regardless, it is a question that a lot of people have. – Unsigned comment added by Aceplante (talk • contribs) at 01:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC). Sign comments with

A MCD page that needs fixing
So I have recently began editing the Minecraft Dungeons wiki over the past couple of months, and I noticed that a lot of the pages there look way different then when I last remember them a year ago, and not in a good way either. One of the worst offenders in the category is the Minecraft Dungeons Mob Page. It became a complete mess and looks way different than both the regular mob page and the mob pages for Minecraft Earth and Minecraft Story Mode. This page definitely has to be violating the style guide, but I haven't the time to go and manually fix everything. I trust someone like you will be able to make this page consistent with the other mob pages. James Haydon (talk) 01:27, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The people working on the MCD pages seem, for the most part, to be unaware of the style guide. I routinely correct capitalization errors, remove icon pollution from prose, fix poor grammar, remove trivia, remove tutorial advice, and so forth.
 * As for the mob pages, while the MCD presentation isn't consistent with the other pages, I cannot see how it violates the style guide, and I am not sure if it's better or worse.
 * If you haven't done so already, bring up your concerns on Minecraft Wiki talk:Style guide. Amatulic (talk) 17:13, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Even if it doesn't violate the style guide the page still looks far different from the regular mob pages and definitely for the worse. I wanted to bring it up to you so you could help make it consistent. James Haydon (talk) 17:40, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That's the problem I'm having: I cannot decide which format is better. That's why I suggested bringing the question to the community. The answer might well be to make the other two mob pages the same as the Minecraft Dungeons page. MCD:Mob started out looking a lot like Mob and MCE:Mob, but then someone evidently thought the presentation could be improved. MCD:Mob is formatted to impart useful information in a way that the old format could not, providing context about subtypes and whether the mob is exclusive to Dungeons. I'm not sure how you could go back to the old format while retaining that information. Amatulic (talk) 23:13, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Well I know the dungeons exclusivity think may be useful, but I still am not a fan of the table format. It's not even centered correctly. I wonder where can I discuss this change so it reaches a wider audience. James Haydon (talk) 00:05, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The tables shouldn't be centered on the page. They aren't in other articles. The content inside the tables is already centered within the cells, however.
 * The only way I can think of to avoid the use of tables would be a bullet list that collapses the "exclusive" data into a footnote, like this:


 * BlazeSpawnerFace.png Blaze Spawner - Golem
 * CaveSpiderFace (Dungeons).png Cave Spider - Animal


 * ....But then the icons all run together. One of the uses of a table is to separate the icons a bit.
 * Another alternative might be gallery images with captions.
 * I recommend you start a conversation on Minecraft Dungeons talk:Mob, and link to the discussion in Minecraft Wiki talk:Community portal to get a wider audience. Amatulic (talk) 03:13, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Why did you do this?
I just noticed that you just added me to the autopatrol through the justification that I am active and I have experience. While I do try to be active, the problem lies in that I do not have enough experience and I do occasionally make mistakes in my edits. Is there any way that you could remove me from the autopatrol? Drour1234 (talk) 05:19, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * First, have a look at Autopatrolled to understand what this does. Page patrolling is more burdensome here than on the English Wikipedia, so it is in the community's interest to grant the autopatrol right to trusted high-volume users. On Wikipedia, it matters only for new pages. Here on the Minecraft Wiki, it matters for every single edit, which is more of a burden.
 * The purpose of that user right isn't to help you, but to aid page patrollers. I have been patrolling your edits for well over a year, and I am finding that your errors are so rare now that you can be trusted to edit without being manually patrolled. Having your activity always appearing in the unpatrolled edits list makes it harder to locate unconstructive edits and vandalism from those editors who truly haven't earned that right.
 * Everyone makes mistakes occasionally. I do, you do, every administrator here does. The fact is, you're an active editor, you know what you're doing, you're familiar with the rules, you're constructive, and nobody needs to patrol your edits anymore. Your edits still appear in watchlists, and I still look at them, but at least now a page patroller has the option to filter out your activity if they want to see only unpatrolled edits.
 * I can remove it if you insist, but retaining it will be a help to others. Amatulic (talk) 21:33, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe don't remove it, it was such a task having to go through his contrive logs and patrol all of his edits, especially seeing how active he can be at times. James Haydon (talk) 17:51, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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