User talk:Kanegasi/archive4

Question regarding talk pages
Hi there, I was wondering why all of you talk pages redirect to this page. My guess is so people don't write on those pages?? – Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 07:54, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not really about the other pages, I just want one talk page. To me, it's pointless to keep track of several personal talk pages. Even if someone wants to make a topic about a specific page, I would rather have it here so it's with everything else. Think of one's userspace as its own wiki. Even though you sometimes talk about a specific page, if you are addressing the wiki as a whole, you want the community portal as a central location. Every post on my talk page should be addressing me (as a whole), so one central location is best.  10:17, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I understand what you mean. Btw your user pages use font-family:Courier New. What other font families are there (is there a link which shows me all the possible font families)? –  Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 12:45, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * w3c documentation for font-family and for list of fonts, if you use Windows, you can pull up the Character Map system accessory. There's also a Fonts folder in your control panel.  12:54, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * http://w3fools.com/
 * See here for the actual w3c docs and see MDN for an actually good web dev reference. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 13:59, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You know that feeling when you suddenly discover everything you know is wrong? ... Yeah... I thought they were w3c.
 * w3schools is usually the first result in Google too. It's like when Wowpedia started and Wowwiki still dominated the Google results. I still have a greasemonkey script installed that autocorrects Wowwiki links to Wowpedia. Thanks for the heads-up, ultradude25.  14:29, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * They want people to think they're an official resource, and because they've spent so long building up their google ranks, it's basically impossible for useful sites to break past them. I wish google still allowed you to block results... they removed that in favour of a chrome extension, which is pretty lame. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 14:38, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Can I make this page?
I've been looking around on talk pages of articles regarding world generation, and a few of them have requests for a page to list seeds. I almost forgot the most important part:

I BEAT A WORLD RECORD!!!!!!!!!!

×Meeples10× 13:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * No. There are plenty of resources for seeds that will always be more robust than whatever we can create, such as the forums for example. Plus, a list of seeds is so fluid, I don't believe a wiki is a good place to host one.  18:12, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * OK. By the way, there is no wiki rule that says a user page can't list seeds, so I'll just make a user page anyone can edit. ×Meeples10× 20:07, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That's perfectly acceptable. Your userspace is yours, provided that some rules are still followed. There's a note at the bottom of the rules page that lists them.  20:10, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Catalan translation template
Hey, Kanegasi. I noticed you removed Template:Catalan. The point of it is to display the right name in Catalan on the crafting grid and link to the right '/ca' article at the same time. I hope you're ok with it if I recreate the template, as I've just finished with the list. Cupkle 22:47, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, I see your point. I took the template's creation out of context and deleted it assuming it was going to be used alone. This is actually a neat idea and for now, it can stay as Template:Catalan, but if your intent works and it comes out as a neater way to translate, we should probably make it something like Template:Translate/ca or Template:Translatenames/ca so that other translation projects can use it as well in their grid templates.  00:04, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure, thanks for the support. I tried to move the template, but I messed up: I noticed the Move button right after I created 'Translate/ca', can you please delete it? Thanks! Cupkle 11:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * 13:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Rules Revision 1
I'm still not completely sure what's the purpose of this page. Could you please explain it to me? Thanks –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs Edit count 02:36, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * When that page was created in February 2011, the current rule set was not much different from what we have now. That revision page was initially an edit copy of the rules and followed a slightly different path. The problem we have now is that since the current rules are linked in a ton of edit summaries, essentially codifying them, there can't be much of a change to the rule numbers. That page has been slowly tinkered with since 2011 and copying the current rule set into the page defeats the purpose of the edit copy. If you look on the talk page of the revision 1 page, Wynthyst points out that drastic changes won't really happen quickly and the rule numbers must stay the same. It's essentially a stale project, since I'm not sure much change will happen to the current rules.  02:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * On a slightly related subject, could the code you told me about a while ago in regards to centering it be added to Project:Wiki Rules/Video policy? Thanks! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That code would fit better on the style guide.  17:50, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Hosting Providers using Multicraft
Hi, please add reptilehosting.com as hosting provider. tried to edit without luck. thanks --Cronoszeu 05:13, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * 16:11, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Template
You deleted and moved it to my userspace. Is there any way I can use MeepWelcome}} and still get this? ×Meeples10× 17:46, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I have also posted on your talk page.  17:47, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Tanks :D ×Meeples10× 17:52, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Deleted edits: NaN?!
Why is it that, when I update the edit count, it sometimes changes the deleted edits count to "Not a Number"?! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 07:45, 13 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That was a bug I accidentally introduced last week. It should already be fixed. Make sure you are using the current version (107).  18:04, 13 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah, I was using 103. Why does it sometimes vary by device? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 05:59, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Web cache WP:Bypass your cache  06:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I know, but... oh wait never mind. Sorry. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 06:43, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You don't have to be sorry lol. I figured linking both of those was the simplest way of explaining. Basically, each device has its own cache with its own version of contents at various dates of retrieval.  07:08, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I figured it out in the end. I said sorry because I thought you were a bit mad with the edit summary of "...". -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:30, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm never mad. I may get slightly annoyed now and then, or in this case, confused that the concept of a cache wasn't fully grasped, but never mad. There's extremely few triggers I have in person, but over the Internet, it's impossible.  08:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok then. :D. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:57, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Bulk plural fix
Hi there, when I was scanning through the Recent Changes list, I realised that you bulk plural linked doors]] to door]]s. How did you do this?

On a side note, when I click on Recent changes on the sidebar, is there a way to make it so that it defaults to 500 entries? –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs Edit count 13:17, 16 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I do it manually. I open all the pages that need fixing in a ton of tabs, and patiently fix each one. Then, after fixing, I set it up so that all I have to do is ctrl + tab through the tabs and hit enter to submit them. This is like the third or fourth plural deletion I've done so far and it was the biggest. I don't fix userspace links though. A lot of users still don't have a grasp on userspace etiquette where you should not edit a userspace that is not your own, with exception to spam, vandalism, other rarely broken userspace rules, and the owner of the space saying you can.
 * For the recent changes setting, see Special:Preferences.  19:26, 16 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It would be much faster and easier to use AWB to fix them automatically. If for some reason you can't or don't want to use AWB, I'd be happy to do it for you. — Hower64 03:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * But how do you use AWB on this wiki? -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 04:14, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Same as Wikipedia except you have to set it to point to minecraftwiki. Go Options -> Preferences then in the Site tab change the project to 'custom' and set the url to www.minecraftwiki.net/. — Hower64 06:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Huh, didn't know you could do that. Then again, I can't use it anyway. But that is cool. :D -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 06:35, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Anyone can use AWB on this wiki, even if you're not an admin. — Hower64 06:39, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh. Cool. It's just that I never downloaded it because I never had rights on Wikipedia. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 06:45, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I have considered tinkering with AWB, but haven't gotten around to doing it. I have downloaded it and read the wikipedia page on it, but so far, I've been comfortable with manual editing. As for you fixing the plurals, you're more than welcome to, but I don't have any specific list or structure to getting them all fixed. I'm not exactly out searching for plural redirects, or any redirects that can be accomplished with that MW link function, I'm just kind of running into them and deciding to charge into it at that time. Doors was pretty interesting, seeing as that was created that way and was around long enough for a decent amount of links to saturate the wiki.  05:22, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, cool :) — Hower64 06:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Item durability response
I used INVEdit.--Weather368 20:00, 17 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You used it for what? This does not explain anything. That is also a mod. Information obtained from a mod should be treated with skepticism. Do not change the numbers again on that page without providing better proof.  05:22, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Questions

 * 1) Is there a limit to the size of a page?
 * 2) Is there a way to apply for admin?
 * 3) Who made this wiki?
 * 4) When did you become an admin?
 * 5) How is revealing your IP dangerous?

×Meeples10× 01:53, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * (talk page stalker):


 * 1) Yes. I don't know exactly, but check User:1234567890Number.  His went over the limit, hence two extension pages.
 * 2) Not sure.
 * 3) Same as above.
 * 4) 5 April, check.
 * 5) If a hacker visits this wiki and sees your IP address, they could easily hack it and implant some sort of malware into it.
 * -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 01:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I mean that they could hack your computer. All they need is your ip. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 02:02, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I was asking Kanegasi, because the last time I checked, you were not an admin. 216.81.100.188 02:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oops. Forgot I wasn't logged in. ×Meeples10× 02:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Numbermaniac provided the answers he could, because the last time I checked, all talk pages are open to the community. Everybody has the right to post or reply to anyone on any talk page. As for your answers:
 * The default limit to a page is 2,048 kB. The LocalSettings.php file in a MediaWiki installation is not publically accessible, even to read, so I do not know if this wiki has a custom limit.
 * There is no formal process to apply for the sysop user right on this wiki. I was indirectly asked to become one back in December, but I turned the offer down over email due to my work-related schedule. I approached the subject again at the beginning of April and was approved. Wynthyst provides a great explanation above in the topic Numbermaniac linked as to why she accepted me.
 * User:Citricsquid and User:Quatroking started this wiki and the forums back in 2009. Curse came around about a year later.
 * Mentioned above.
 * Think of your IP as the digital equivalent to a Social Security Number (or other non-American government identity label) with your computer representing your identity. If your IP gets into the wrong hands, your computer can be at risk. It's not as destructive as someone having your SSN, but there are people out there that can do anything they want to almost any computer. If you use your computer purely for games, Internet surfing, and other random activities, it's not that bad, but if you're the average user that accesses your bank online or you have sensitive information regarding your life saved on your computer, rampaging around on the Internet linking your IP to yourself is like displaying your SSN on the top of your house with Christmas lights.
 * 05:13, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * For more info on the wiki, see Minecraft Wiki:About. (I'm surprised no-one linked it above). –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs Edit count 05:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I was not aware of that page lol. I guess I knew enough about Minecraft and Mojang, and already being well aware of Curse and their activities, when I came to the wiki that I didn't snoop around too much.  05:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * 2048kB equals about 2097152 bytes, so how come 1234567890Number had to create a new extension after just 440,000 bytes? -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 06:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * As I said, that is the default MediaWiki setting. This wiki must have it set lower.  06:51, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Interesting, thanks. Also, is there a way to see the total amount of bytes that have used up on this wiki? -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 07:00, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki does not have the ability to monitor its database or installation size, only page sizes. The only way for us to know is if the Curse tech team tells us. 07:28, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Regardless of the article size limit MediaWiki enforces, pages become unwieldy above around 200KB, taking too long to load and edit. There have been several complains about the length of Version history/Development versions, and that's only 272KB. -- Orthotope 08:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

My signature
How can I make my signature to this?

×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk Contribs

×Meeples10× 21:44, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Special:Preferences. By default, anything in that box is placed inside a userpage link:  content of that box here   . You need to check the box labeled "Treat signature as wikitext" in order to do anything else. I also fixed your signature by trimming technically unnecessary stuff to help with size, properly closing the format tags you used, and the image was slightly too big.
 * Ahh, I just noticed you tried to make a signature subpage. If you would like to have your signature code in a page rather than that box, put the following in that box exactly how I have it here:   23:45, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I have absolutely no idea what the heck you just said. :\ ×Meeples10× 23:57, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Did you click the link I provided to your preferences page? There is also a link in the top right corner of every page that leads to your preferences. The first page you see when you get to your preferences has a signature box a little bit down the page. When you are there, re-read what I have stated.  23:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, that box! I tried entering that earlier, but it didn't work. I'll try again. ×Meeples10× 00:09, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yay! Pig.png ×Meeples10× ᐸ Talk Contribs 00:10, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You need to close those tags. Either use the version I edited in the beginning of this topic or add at the end of the signature box.   00:22, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Done. Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 11:11, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Font
Why is the default font now Times New Roman on some pages? <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 17:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? Sometimes, the appearance of pages vary by device. Not all devices have the same fonts installed, so the browser sometimes substitutes the font for another when the one it wants isn't installed. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 21:52, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I am using my computer.
 * I mean, that earlier on this page on this section the font was Times New Roman. It's not like that anymore. Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 23:30, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) The default font this wiki asks your browser to display is whatever you have set as a non-serif font. The font you are attempting to use in your signature is a serif font, so maybe your browser is forcing the rest of the page to display a serif font. This is just a guess though. It would help if you told us what browser you are using since it's not the wiki.  23:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That's because your signature in the previous section was missing closing tags, which made your font affect the rest of the page. -- Orthotope talk 00:14, 20 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, I thought he only posted once without closing tags earlier. I didn't see that one.  00:25, 20 May 2013 (UTC)


 * No, he did it on my user talk page too, which I corrected with this edit. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 08:02, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Template query
Hi, can you help me out with a template query?

I have been using the 'wip' template for some draft tutorials. This basically says 'please don't touch this at all, I'm working on it.' Could you tell which is the best template to use for 'this is a work in progress that needs input from other people? ' I have some tutorials on roofs, walls, and other basic construction which I want to move into the main user space, but as I do so I want to flag them as 'works in progress' but WIPs I'm asking others to help with. Thanks Simons Mith[82.69.54.207] 23:41, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * We also have WipNeedHelp with wiphelp as a shortcut.  23:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

User:Meeples10/70.181.68.226
Perhaps you know my question already, but was he allowed to do this? I know that people's userspaces are theirs, but I don't know whether this was appropriate. What do you think? Thanks. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 08:49, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, there is no wiki etiquette that states someone isn't allowed to have a copy of someone else's userspace. The whole point of a wiki is the sharing and displaying of information and it is encouraged that people learn and use from others. There are special cases though, such as a user copying a userpage into their main userpage with intent to masquerade as them, which was the case for a user last month attempting to be ultradude25. In this case with the anonymous user, that page is nothing but Meeples10 helping the user out. If he copied it to his main userpage and then altered his signature to look like the user, then it's an issue. Now, I wouldn't go around and start a collection of userpages in your userspace. That would be weird.  17:36, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Really? Who tried to copy ultradude25? Oh, and I just saw Hower63 and Hower65 in the creation log. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 07:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Some user with a decent block history. Every single edit they have made, with some being within hours of a block expiring, was vandalism.  07:47, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Wow. Morons. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 07:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, it would be really weird if someone made a collection of userpages in their userspace. It'd also be weird if someone paraded around the wiki, looking for IPs with talk pages and copying them onto their userspace so when the IPs make accounts, they could put it on the account's talk page. Now that would be unusual. --70.181.68.226 03:05, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * In that case, if you don't want that copy existing, I could delete it if you want.  03:07, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * No, you don't need to delete it. I was just thinking about how odd it would be if someone had a whole collection of those. --70.181.68.226 03:29, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

edit count
Quick question, how did you and Goandgoo get the editcount/date and edit count/total pages? I can't get it with v108. Thanks. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 09:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Did you read the documentation?  17:36, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oops. Thanks. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 07:43, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Two questions
Hi! Anyway, I have two questions for you: Thanks! -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 02:00, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) What is the wikilink cleanup you're doing with all the Crafting pages?!
 * 2) Also, what does Template:Anchor do? There's no documentation for this when I last checked.


 * I'm fixing plural links, but this time I got my hands into AWB.
 * is the exact same thing as . Multiple arguments, such as add more ids. This is a different way of creating a section link in a page without using headers. If I put  into the middle of any page, and then link to it with Page, the page will load at this anchor. You are "anchoring" links to this spot on the page.
 * 02:06, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That's what I had thought, but I was nowhere near sure. Thanks! -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 02:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Bots
How you allow a bot to make automatic edits? <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 12:53, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You'd need to have one of the bureaucrats add your account to the bot usergroup. Since there's less oversight of bots (their edits don't show up in Recent Changes by default), this is only done for trusted users. Also, you may notice from the stated purpose of existing bots that they're only used for maintenance tasks that do not significantly change the content of a page. -- Orthotope talk 20:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


 * OK... so can you please not delete/block/ban/remove/etc this? Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 23:40, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


 * First of all, why do you need a bot? Do you know what you are doing? Also, looking at the contributions of that account, a bot does not need a signature. You should never be directly editing or acting like yourself (talk page posts, etc) through the bot account. The specific purpose of a bot account is to do a considerably large amount of edits that are either tedious to do manually and/or will spam the recent changes. Even some of my plural link fixes could be better done as a bot, so I try to not do them too often. Please clearly explain the purpose of this second account on the Admin noticeboard talk page so you can request permission to have it and mark it as a bot. If permission is denied, the account will be blocked as breaking the multiple account rule.  01:12, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


 * (phone edit) Bots generally require an extensive amount of code to run correctly, and you'll need an extensive knowledge of Python, C-family, Ruby or other coding language. That's pretty tricky. –- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 05:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I give up. Block it, ban it (NOT the IP!), I don't care, as long as it doesn't affect my first account. Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 21:35, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

More questions

 * 1) What is common.css?
 * 2) What is common.js?
 * 3) Is there some possible way to apply for admin?
 * 4) Can you put a copy of Template:Entities on the bottom of User:Meeples10/Wolf? (Please do not just put , put the contents) Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 20:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I was wondering the first two questions, too. --70.181.68.226 21:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * This is your style sheet that loads on every page. MediaWiki:common.css loads for everyone.
 * This is your JavaScript page that loads on every page. MediaWiki:common.js loads for everyone.
 * Email Wynthyst.
 * 22:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * 22:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 22:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I was wondering, is there any way to be an admin without applying? (I don't want to be one, I'm just incredibly curious about absolutely everything!) --70.181.68.226 03:23, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Plus, if Curse made an IP an admin, they'd be insane! (And I am certainly NOT saying that they are!!!) --70.181.68.226 03:25, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see how someone could be an admin without applying. Even if someone was a perfect candidate, they would at least have to want the position. Some editors, especially on Wikipedia, wouldn't want the additional responsibility. Also, no, IPs can't have user rights assigned to them. You need an account.  03:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Now I see, and I said "I don't want to be one; I'm just incredibly curious about absolutely everything!" --70.181.68.226 04:33, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Also, because I am incredibly curious about absolutely everything, do you enjoy being an admin? --70.181.68.226 04:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I like it. Sometimes I feel like I don't contribute as much as others, like ultradude25's renders and scripting knowledge, but I'm still learning everyday. Regardless, I would like to think that I have been a decent help over the past two months on top of the nine months that I've been here.  04:53, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I like thinking that I am helpful too. I don't care if I don't have any recognition at all as long at I can still contribute! --70.181.68.226 05:03, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
Look. I'm sorry for inserting "false information". It's just that there were a few things that I just discovered in 1.6. For example, I built a village that has villagers in it, and when it became night-time, they would quickly rush home. Quicker than they used to. Also, Iron Golems could be killed in 13 hits with an un-enchanted diamond sword (although they would still be killed in 100 hits with your fists), and will detect nearby villages and will go to them, and if they were trapped in a container, they would constantly move. Along with this, untamed wolves would have the same health as a tamed wolf, zombies/zombie pigmen would be killed in 3 hits with an un-enchanted diamond sword (although it still takes 22 hits to kill them with your fists), and if zombies/skeletons with swords were chasing a player (or zombies were chasing villagers), and a utility mob/skeleton's arrow/Ender Dragon were to hit them, then that zombie/skeleton would retaliate and fight that mob to the death. So, if you think I put in untrue stuff, I'm sorry.

--50.141.226.94 22:12, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It wasn't necessarily the info, it was adding it with no proof or explanation, and then adding it again after it was reverted also without explanation. If you find new information that's much different that what is documented, it's better to make a talk page post on the applicable article talk and have others verify your findings. Unexplained changes like that are better for typos and other minimal changes.  23:00, 29 May 2013 (UTC)