Talk:Java Edition version history

Halloween Update
Can anyone add the Halloween Update on this page?

We'll probably have to edit it once the update actually does come out, though. Turtleey 06:47, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Beta?
Is the beta heading really necessary to have before we've reached beta? Seems to me an empty heading is pretty pointless and should be removed until there's something to actually put in it. --Yourself 19:35, 31 October 2010 (CDT)

Clarity
I'm trying to work out when Rana and the MD3 mobs were in the game, and the table is proving tricky to read. Instead of listing the "eras" as "post Indev" etc, why not just "Indev"? JaffaCakeLover 17:09, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Sunrise
The sunrise got a red glow somewhere around the halloween update. I believe it should be mentioned. (I dont know the exact update it came on, actually. I didnt even notice it myself) --BlueLegion 21:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it came in with version 1.2.0 DannyF1966 22:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Split
This page is really long and is growing with each update. I propose a subsection for each category. It will probably make this page easier to read and less of a memory hog for older computers. --Scykei 13:57, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Split is ok, but I think the most recent updates (either the whole Post Alpha Multiplayer Survival Release page, or just the last couple of months) should always be on the version history page, with older updates archived into their own pages. --DannyF1966 16:34, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Why the split?
This page is pretty fucking useless atm, tbh. Why was the patch history page split again? How could anyone looking for the latest updates, already *know* what they apply to? Per example, I just started Minecraft and found out there was an update. How should I know if it's for MP or SP? Please, let the powers that be reinstate the Patch History. --Nao 5.11 13:44, 25 November 2010 (CST)
 * Basically if multiplayer is already implemented, it is post multiplayer release. Metalhannes 19:48, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * OhdearGod, you know I never actually read it like that. I thought the divisions were instated in the way that all updates pertaining to single-player mode, and all updates pertaining to multi-player mode were on separate pages. Which would be dumb... Thanks for letting me see the proverbial light. --Nao 5.11 13:48, 25 November 2010 (CST)
 * If only all problems could be solved so quickly :D . Metalhannes 13:56, 25 November 2010 (CST)

Reverting split
I recall there being a page that listed changes to minecraft in chronological order, and for a few minutes I could not find it. I did find several pages that seemed to list server, or smp, or ssp changes in chronological order. Or maybe they were general chronological changes, it was hard to tell until I found out for certain. How many people actually know that indef comes before or after infdev? I certainly had problems finding the latest version changes, which in the past were right on top.

This page is called a changelog, or a version history. Here are some examples of similar pages, from google:


 * http://growl.info/documentation/version_history.php
 * http://www.winamp.com/help/Version_History
 * http://php.net/ChangeLog-5.php
 * http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog

These pages are huge, but this is ok, because a changelog is supposed to be huge. It's supposed to contain all that information in precisely one place, so that people wouldn't have to go through the individual version changes searching for the information. In particular, a changelog needs to make the latest change as easy to find as possible. So there's a reason "changelog" is not plural. (Though see the virtualbox changelog for a way to break up a truly huge changelog. You put the old stuff into a different page, keep the new stuff, and you make sure that the old pages have a natural numbering scheme.)

The minecraft changelog isn't that big. It's 95kb when turned into html. The minecraft homepage, http://minecraft.net is 25kb. I know that the wiki software "warns" us that the page is getting to big. Ignore the warning, it doesn't apply to us. Anyone who meets the system requirements for running minecraft almost certainly meets the system requirements for a) rendering this page and b) editing this page. Furthermore, even if the page crashed that person's (old, unreliable) computer, this is no reason to make the page substantially less clear for everyone else.

Electronic 18:50, 30 November 2010 (CST)
 * I'm neutral on this. Not to say anything, but http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog archives their older versions in a different page. Look below. Besides, Minecraft is supposed to get "weekly updates" so the changelog should get pretty long. I dunno :P --Scykei 19:50, 30 November 2010 (CST)