Talk:Splash

Missingno
So, I was bored and attempted to edit my Splash.txt file, and replaced the current Splashes with some of my own, and when I started MineCraft, I got an "ERROR" when trying to log on [but not an internet error], and the MISSINGNO splash was used, which I did not put in splash.txt. Reloaded again, still Missingno. So, I'm guessing that if the Splash.txt is modified, MISSINGNO is displayed?

Anyone else want to test this too? --DwarfWoot 20:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)


 * That's been there for quite some time actually. I was going to add it yesterday but didn't have time. Today someone put it under "Removed" but it is in fact not removed so I just added it under "Special" splashes. Ordona 21:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete META-INF.--Sade1212 10:04, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

New Splash
So there was a new Splash, "Play Minecraft, Watch Topgear, Get Pig", added with the most recent version 1.2.3_02. There is actually a background to this; it was auctioned off on Desert Bus for Hope by Notch himself. I'm curious if a special note should be made of this. --Spolin 10:54, 25 November 2010 (CST)

Consummate V's
This phrase comes from Homestar Runner, so I was bold, went ahead and added a link. --Homfrog 13:51, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I added a link to the wiki. &mdash; fuchsi a n i a  00:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Table instead of a list?
I think the splashes need to be placed into a table with columns for details and explanations. Quite many of these splashes are non-self-explanatory running gags or insider stuff, so it could be required to understand their meaning. I'm not quite sure if it's enough to simply create links for the lines... --Barracuda 16:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. On a related note, what does "SWM forever!" refer to? Urbandictionary gave me Single White Man.--EnderA 04:34, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

There is a Swedish gaming community called Swedish Maffia with the adress www.SWM.se and it is likely that it that group he is reffering too. --Jostain 18:08, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * This would greatly help the page, yes. I've transformed the list into a table now, feel free to add references you might spot. Those empty cells look sad. And Single White Male would be correct, though this could be one of the tougher ones to explain.

--RV 02:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't we make the removed splashes into a table too? I see no reason why not, and as the game grows (and when it leaves Beta), there will undoubtedly be more that get removed. --DwarfWoot 15:33, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks for bringing it to attention! --Gnu32 16:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

"Kiss the Sky"
"Impossible because there is a barrier stopping you from moving more than 128 blocks above bedrock; also a reference to the lyrics from Purple Haze by Jimi Hendrix "

I'm fine with the Jimi Hendrix part, but according to Wikipedia, "in the sky are clouds", which to me means that at Cloud level, one IS in the sky, and thus the "Impossible because there is a barrier stopping you.." is false. --DwarfWoot 17:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

This confuses me, as the "sky" is only vaguely defined irl since there is no definite boundary to outer space. Thus having any boundary whatsoever would constitute an impossibility. I'd just let this one go on a technicality. Darkid 22:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect Capitalization of Spongebob
The description for "Lives in a pineapple under the sea!" is: Refers to the animated series SpongeBob SquarePants. Which is correct, though improperly capitalized, as Spongebob is one name, as is Squarepants. The correct capitalization would be: Refers to the animated series Spongebob Squarepants. -- ClapNZ 05:01, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


 * The name here is capitalized the same as it is on Wikipedia. This is also the capitalization used on its official site. If this is really the battle you want to pick, I'd start in those two places, not here. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:04, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

A new one
Somone on the "moon" discussion page, said they found one that said "that is not a moon!"


 * There's a text file somewhere in the game's files that lists all the current splash messages in the game (or, rather, the game uses the splash messages listed in that file). The file needs to be directly checked for new or changed splash messages (on that note, I need to find just where the file is). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 13:39, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * "That's not a moon!" is already in the list. --Barracuda 13:48, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Exclamation marks implied!
As every splash ends with an exclamation mark (as far as I've seen), is the exclamation mark implied and added by Minecraft, or part of the splashes.txt file? Does Minecraft run something like this:

Object PASCAL: AssignFile(SplashesFile, 'splashes.txt');

Reset(SplashesFile);

MaxLines := 0;

While not EOF(SplashesFile) do

Begin


 * ReadLn(SplashesFile, FileLine);
 * Splashes[MaxLines] := FileLine;
 * MaxLines := MaxLines + 1;

End;

Splash := Splashes[Random(MaxLines)] + '!'; QuickBASIC: OPEN 'splashes.txt' FOR INPUT AS #1

MaxLines = 0

DO


 * INPUT #1, Splashes$(MaxLines)
 * MaxLines = MaxLines + 1

LOOP WHILE NOT EOF(1)

PRINT Splashes$(INT(RND * MaxLines)); "!" BASH: I=`rand -M Lines in file`

S=`cat splashes.txt | cut -d '

' -f $I-$I`'!' if [ "$S" = '' ]; then echo 'missingno'; else echo "$S"; fi I know that Minecraft is written in Java, not PASCAL, QuickBASIC or BASH, but this is just an example. -- ClapNZ 02:20, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Nope, they're all right there in the splashes.txt file. I considered adding a comment in the lead about how all the splashes end with an exclamation point when I added the line numbers last night, but forgot about it when I was reviewing my changes prior to saving. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * OK. Also, look at the BASH version of the script. Could that be where missingno comes from? -- ClapNZ 02:28, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Probably not. If the splash routine is properly coded, the first thing it would check for is that the splashes.txt file exists and is readable; if not, that's when the "missingno" message would be displayed. I've never looked at the decompiled code for Minecraft, though (and probably wouldn't be able to make much sense of it if I did), so I don't know how it actually works. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:38, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It is possible that it stores a hash of the file, and checks against that.

Possible Reference
Could "Wow!" possibly be a reference to the fact the Minecraft is Awesome? If so, should this be added in the description? -- ClapNZ 06:15, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Descriptions
Are the descriptions for the minecraft splashes actually official, inferred, or random guesses?


 * They're all inferred, though several of them are drawn directly from Notch's comments, and many of the rest have some pretty solid logic behind them. If you know of any descriptions that explicitly disagree with something Notch has said about the corresponding splash, though, feel free to change the description (make sure to provide a link to Notch's comment, though, so others can confirm it as well). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:14, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

'Scary!'
Perhaps this is referencing the Herobrine. This is the only scary thing I think about MineCraft. I myself often think I see him so now i keep render distance at far so i don't get scared (with lag) R ocĸetor talk  07:56, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

#34 - That's not a moon!
I´m pretty sure the phrase goes "That´s no moon" and not "That's not a moon!". Could someone check and, if so, add a note just as in "Superfragilisticexpialidocuous"? --GALAKTOS 17:40, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

It is indeed 'That's not a moon!'. --R ocĸetor talk  09:30, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Upside Down
umop-apisdn! The phrase "upside-down", upside-down. I don´t see how. Could someone explain it to me? --GALAKTOS 09:37, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Either turn your monitor upside down or stand on your head. You can also use a mirror, or ultimately take a screenshot, paste into paint, go to Image -> Flip/Rotate -> Rotate by 180 degrees. If you still don't see it, consult your optician. (or lawyer) MaxKing 14:42, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I didn´t actually try viewing it upside down because it didn´t occur to me that so many letters could look like regular other letters if viewed upside down... well, now I know. --GALAKTOS 17:51, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No prob. It's just like with "370H55V O773H" :P (NOTHING personal, just showing an example) MaxKing 20:37, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

åäö in Languages
I find the text "These characters are not part of the standard 26-character Latin alphabet, but are used in the Swedish alphabet (many Scandinavian languages use such extended versions of the Latin alphabet)." for the Splash "Now supports åäö!" somewhat misleading. I propose: "most European languages use an extended version of the Latin alphabet" Other Scandinavian languages use one or the other character that Swedish uses but never all three together -- Danish and Norwegian, closely related to Swedish, use å, æ and ø (and more rarely é) and Icelandic, another North Germanic language, uses æ and ö (amongst other accents, such as á). å is definitely a clear indicator for a Scandinavian language as no other languages, except for minority languages or some dialects of German, use this character. But ä and ö are used in German and Finnish as well, ö is in fact used in Turkish and Hungarian, too. Thus, we can say that the accents ä and ö are used in a wide range of European countries. I understand the author of the game is Swedish, but wouldn't replacing "Scandinavian languages" with "European languages" be a bit better / more accurate? No language uses all three accents which Swedish uses, but many non-Scandinavian languages do have one (or two in the case of German) common accent with Swedish. --(lKj) 19:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It's more general than that, really; many non-English languages that are written with the Latin character set use at least one character not found in written English (beyond certain loanwords or archaic forms, perhaps). A better, and far more concise, description of this splash could be written if someone could confirm that Minecraft is Unicode-compliant, in which case this splash would refer to the point at which Notch added such compliancy to the game; the description could then be stated simply as something like
 * "Minecraft features Unicode support; the characters 'å', 'ä', and 'ö' specifically are all extended Latin characters used in Swedish."
 * 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:20, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Spiders everywhere
I think this could be a reference to an imageboard script that, if user uploaded an image withouth any comment, it filled it out with phrase "D**KS EVERYWHERE".

PC Gamer Demo
Removed a spare "Shown" in the occasion --User:Pikachu4170 17:26, 11 May 2011 (AST)

Polynomial
May be Polynomial also refers to Polynomial the game? http://dmytry.com/games/


 * I rather doubt it; that splash has been in the game for quite a while, whereas Polynomial was just released October of last year. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:00, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Polynomial was in fact released in late 2008 as fractal editor, then sometime in early 2009 as a game beta and finally in October 2010 as finished game on Steam... tbh i dunno if it really is a reference, but it has a related game concept, it has gone through the editor, game beta, and final product phases, and there's overlap in userbase, so it is not too far fetched. Dmytry


 * Aah, I didn't know that (this is the first I've heard about the game that I'm aware of). In that case, I think it wouldn't hurt to add that as a possibility (something like "Possibly refers to the game Polynomial"). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:12, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

"Almost Never" is an interesting concept!
The description of this splash seems to be incorrect: wouldn't it be more likely that Notch would be talking about how 'never' is an infinite descriptor (which is negative), and how one can never be close to an infinite?


 * That depends on how you define "close" - there will always be usable definitions, regardless of the scale being used, that allow one to get "close" to an infinite. That said, the explanation of this splash referring to "almost never" as the counterpart to "almost always" is just far neater than what you're suggesting. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)