Talk:Biome/Archive 4

Improvement to the table and subpages
I did a few changes to some of the subpages (ex:Biome/Birch Forest) adding the table. The Table can be improved by adding the technical biomes that were omitted (ex:Mega Spruce Taiga Hills, Mesa Plateau F M, and Cold Taiga Hills) and adding Biome Colors like I did in the subpages. The Subpages should follow a uniform layout (What Can Be found in the Biome, Naturally spawned Blocks (found in the Mega Taiga subpage), Table, and History of the Biome.) --Delvin4519 (talk) 22:51, 8 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Really the reason the subpages are in such bad condition is because they are leftover from a project that lacked support, as there is no reason to discuss the biomes separately when they are fully described here. – KnightMiner  (t·c) 00:42, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I also mentioned improvements to the main Biome table. At the moment the table Extreme Hills is separated from Extreme Hills +, Some technical Biomes are missing and replaced with Hell and The End. Biome colors (AMIDST) are missing. Some biomes here aren't in the Biomes achievement and some missing biomes are. The old Red Desert picture should go as the regular Mesa picture. Jungle M has 2 pictures and 1 of them will have to go for Jungle Hills.
 * Heres the list of biomes listed in the table in order, there are 57 biomes in game.
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! List
 * 1) Frozen River
 * 2) Ice Plains
 * 3) Ice Plains Spikes
 * 4) Cold Beach
 * 5) Cold Taiga
 * 6) Cold Taiga M*
 * 7) Extreme Hills
 * 8) Extreme Hills M*
 * 9) Taiga
 * 10) Taiga M*
 * 11) Mega Taiga
 * 12) Mega Spruce Taiga*
 * 13) Extreme Hills+
 * 14) Extreme Hills+M*
 * 15) Stone Beach
 * 16) The End
 * 17) Plains
 * 18) Sunflower Plains*
 * 19) Forest
 * 20) Flower Forest
 * 21) Swampland
 * 22) Swampland M*
 * 23) River
 * 24) Beach
 * 25) Jungle
 * 26) Jungle M*
 * 27) Jungle Edge
 * 28) Jungle Edge M*
 * 29) Birch Forest
 * 30) Birch Forest M*
 * 31) Birch Forest Hills
 * 32) Birch Forest Hills M*
 * 33) Roof Forest
 * 34) Roof Forest M*
 * 35) Mushroom Island
 * 36) Mushroom Island Shore
 * 37) Desert
 * 38) Desert M*
 * 39) Savanna
 * 40) Savanna M*
 * 41) Mesa
 * 42) Mesa Bryce
 * 43) Plateau'
 * 44) Plateau M*'
 * 45) Hell
 * 46) Ocean
 * 47) Deep Ocean
 * 48) Hills'
 * }
 * Missing Biomes
 * Ice Mountains, Cold Taiga Hills, Taiga Hills, Mega Taiga Hills, Mega Spruce Taiga Hills*, Forest Hills, Jungle Hills, Desert Hills, Mesa Plateau F, Mesa Plateau F M*
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 * Ice Mountains, Cold Taiga Hills, Taiga Hills, Mega Taiga Hills, Mega Spruce Taiga Hills*, Forest Hills, Jungle Hills, Desert Hills, Mesa Plateau F, Mesa Plateau F M*
 * {| class="collapsible collapsed"

! Better List:
 * 1) Frozen River
 * 2) Cold Beach
 * 3) Ice Plains
 * 4) Ice Mountains
 * 5) Ice Plains Spikes
 * 6) Cold Taiga
 * 7) Cold Taiga M*
 * 8) Cold Taiga Hills
 * 9) Taiga
 * 10) Taiga M*
 * 11) Taiga Hills
 * 12) Mega Taiga
 * 13) Mega Taiga Hills
 * 14) Mega Spruce Taiga*
 * 15) Mega Spruce Taiga Hills*
 * 16) Extreme Hills
 * 17) Extreme Hills M*
 * 18) Extreme Hills+
 * 19) Extreme Hills+M*
 * 20) Stone Beach
 * 21) The End
 * 22) Birch Forest
 * 23) Birch Forest M*
 * 24) Birch Forest Hills
 * 25) Birch Forest Hills M*
 * 26) Roof Forest
 * 27) Roof Forest M*
 * 28) Forest
 * 29) Flower Forest
 * 30) Forest Hills
 * 31) Plains
 * 32) Sunflower Plains*
 * 33) Swampland
 * 34) Swampland M*
 * 35) River
 * 36) Beach
 * 37) Mushroom Island
 * 38) Mushroom Island Shore
 * 39) Jungle
 * 40) Jungle M*
 * 41) Jungle Hills
 * 42) Jungle Edge
 * 43) Jungle Edge M*
 * 44) Desert
 * 45) Desert M*
 * 46) Desert Hills
 * 47) Savanna
 * 48) Savanna M*
 * 49) Savanna Plateau
 * 50) Savanna Plateau M*
 * 51) Mesa
 * 52) Mesa Bryce
 * 53) Mesa Plateau
 * 54) Mesa Plateau M*
 * 55) Mesa Plateau F
 * 56) Mesa Plateau F M*
 * 57) Hell
 * 58) Ocean
 * 59) Deep Ocean
 * }
 * --Delvin4519 (talk) 01:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * }
 * --Delvin4519 (talk) 01:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I think the reason some technical biomes were removed is because there was no support in the code for them existing, it was simply two biomes crossing. Although you would have to ask about that.
 * I don't see anything against merging biomes variants, but since it would be a somewhat major change, I would suggest creating a draft as a subpage of your user page, then linking the page here for a discussion on the changes.
 * The Nether and the End are actual biomes, they just only generate in said dimensions
 * ADMIST is a external program not made by mojang, as such we do not cover it here, unless you mean in game foliage colors, in which case I don't see any problem with mentioning.
 * – KnightMiner  (t·c) 02:47, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


 * If you're talking about the ones listed on Template:Biomes, that's about as disused and unsupported as the rest of the biome subpages. The list at Biome is complete and correct. -- Orthotopetalk 19:12, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

First appearances
I think the charts should have a column for the version the biome was added in. It would tell this for PC, pocket edition, and console edition. For example, deed ocean would say "*PC:beta 1.8 *Pocket edition:alpha 0.9.0". I do not know the first appearance for console edition, but you can fill that in. If you have an account, you can add the new column.67.160.25.176 23:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I would advise you to use the history section instead. If we added a first version column, not only would it be redundant, but it would be complicated to perform, as many biomes have been added, changed, removed, then re-added. Also, the style guide requires all history information (except upcoming) to only be described in the history section. – KnightMiner  (t·c) 04:02, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Nether Biome
The Nether biome is missing temperature information. 108.216.30.138 20:58, 3 February 2015 (UTC)