Talk:Netherrack/Archive 1

Mistake?
Netherrack and Soul Sand are listed as "non-solid" at the table thing at the bottom. Someone fix please? I don't want to myself cause I'm afraid of messing it up, even with that show preview button. Glowstone is not listed there as well. Someone add that too? The table needs a "nether" section.Jtlcr777 23:36, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
 * okay its been fixed. Jtlcr777 18:55, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Naming
According to Minutor, a user-made mapping tool, 'Bloodstone' is called Brimstone. This might not be canon, but I think it deserves a mention. XANA520 23:30, 30 October 2010 (CDT)

This page is called Hellstone, yet the block template refers to Bloodstone. I don't want to change it until we've decided on a name, can someone make a choice please? DannyF1966 05:30, 31 October 2010 (CDT)
 * I have. hellstone. it is not blood, it is moss, he said so. until further notice, it is hellstone.


 * also, I want to add that notch always does this to us, and it's really frustrating!--Kizzycocoa 10:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, this block couldn't be bloodstone, as bloodstone(the nickname for heliotrope) is green, with red 'spots'. --Antome 01:15, 1 November 2010 (CDT)

I think the name should be Netherstone as the official name for the dimension is "The Nether" (Plus I think Netherstone has a better ring to it). --Flanjygo 12:59, 1 November 2010 (CDT)

The only certainty we have is that it's NOT called hellstone, since notch is avoiding all references to hell and other real world religions as he stated in his blog and twitter. MLegion 04:27, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Avoiding all references to hell? I thought he did the image. Did I mix that one up? --Nekoyoubi 21:32, 3 November 2010 (CDT)
 * That image was did by Notch before he avoided all references to Hell.--Somebody500 23:44, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * THE OFFICIAL NAME IS NETHERSTONE, See here: http://twitter.com/notch/status/472444385107968 Does that mean we can rename the article? -F1racer101 09:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

It seems the name has been changed to "Netherrack" as of Minecraft Beta 1.0, the 12/20/2010. You can now see an item's name by hovering your mouse over it in the inventory. The page should be renamed. EDIT : I have gone ahead and changed most of the references to the old name "Netherstone" to the new name, "Netherrack". The page however, is still named Netherstone since I don't want to cause any havoc so fast after the update. -228.zip 19:10, 20 December 2010

Hellstone as a fuel
The article claims Hellstone can be used as a fuel. I just tried using Hellstone as a fuel for Iron Ore, Sand and Cobblestone, and it didn't work. As I didn't have any Clay, Gold Ore, Pork or Fish on me at the time, I couldn't test those. I won't remove the claim from the article in case it does in fact work as fuel for these items, although why it would work for some and not others, I have no clue. --King Elemento 17:21, 31 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I have tried pork, and it does nothing. I don't know where the fuel info came from, but I'm pretty sure it is wrong. Jessejericho 17:26, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Iron Blocks and Smoothstone are also not destroyed
How do I know? Well, I learned my lesson about hacking 7 spawners to become Ghast Spawners x.x Should I provide video proof of this before adding it, or is my word good enough? -Icalasari 05:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, pretty much everything has a higher resistance to the ghasts's fireballs than Hellstone, so that information wouldn't really prove relevant unless you are planing on making a controlled test, which would include every block your hacking self can spawn in. I would like to personally see how TNT handles the fireballs. Levy 15:55, 4 November 2010 (CDT)
 * Can someone (modder?) get the strength of fireballs in relation to TNT?--PurpleKiwi 17:31, 4 November 2010 (CDT)

Bloodstone
for the record, everyone campaigning for bloodstone? I hate you forever. I had to undo SO MANY edits, and notch said it was red moss.

so, yeah =D --Kizzycocoa 13:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Still, as it is a nick name that many people still use, it SHOULD, be on the page. Just saying. Leave your personal feelings out of the wiki. Levy 10:18, 19 November 2010 (CST)
 * like aspergite? :/
 * honestly though, I was just a little frustrated. no-one here checked for accuracy. it was a free-for-all. and even when notch said it's name, there was still a mini war.--Kizzycocoa 13:59, 19 November 2010 (CST)

Source?
"The redness on Netherstone is moss, not blood". I know, I remember reading it somewhere... Can anyone point out where it is at? Because it's sort of harsh putting it in the article without a source... :P --Scykei 03:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Most likely on Notch's Twitter. – ultradude25 ( T  04:01, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Fire Spread
I've changed the page to indicate that fire does spread from Netherstone.

I placed a small netherstone fire into my home and came back 15 seconds later to find my two giant trees on fire. There are no other sources of fire in my home, so it couldn't have been anything else. --Quxxy 02:04, 13 November 2010 (CST)


 * After some testing, it turns out I was hasty to add that to the article. Fire does spread to flammable blocks placed above burning netherstone, but it is rather buggy and won't always spread. I have several fire testing platforms upon which I've placed plank blocks that didn't catch on fire. On others, they incinerated in seconds. Epinephilim 14:33, 30 November 2010 (CST)

Naming
When are we going to stop changing the name of this page? It's been through Hellstone, Bloodstone, Netherstone and now Netherrack, in some order. It doesn't matter what the page is called, as long as those names link to it. Plus, "Netherrack" doesn't even make sense. Immibis 04:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Netherrack is the official name as defined by the game now. Since the beta update, the names of materials appear when the cursor is over them in the item window. Rack is a nice pretty name, too! 'Rack' is also an old word for torture, so it works in that way too. --JohnnyMadhouse 22:51, 27 December 2010 (CST)
 * Just an addendum to the naming bit. Is it possible that the new name Netherrack is a pun on the name of the old roguelike Nethack?  Pfhortipfhy 01:55, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd like to note that "rack" in Swedish is pronounced more like "rock" in English, than the he Swedish word "rock", which is pronounced more like what you might spell "roke" in English. So there might be some kind of joke or play on this going on. In fact, in some parts of the U.S., people pronounce "rock" in a way that sounds like "rack" to most other Americans; if you've ever seen the Adult Swim show "Saul of the Molemen", Saul was an good example of that (I'm not sure but that may have been intended as a gag).--Ericjs 23:38, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not just pronunciation (though it still-too could be [a] Pun[s]), I've seen words ending in "-rack" - and related to "rock," even some of them, as well. The double-"rr" would also be the way that's spelled, even, though it's funny to think of "Neth err ack," lots of forum, er formulations (there are probably further-Puns available, as well, including on "er," "rack").  Yilante 108.215.209.201 04:09, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

In the game it says netherrack --Crittycool 18:22, 24 March 2013 (UTC)Crittycool

Half use with mining?
I've noticed that I am getting a great deal of netherrack with just a stone pickaxe. Unless Notch tweaked the amounts on the pickaxes, netherrack appears to only use up a half use on the pickaxe rather than a full use, like with other rock. Can someone confirm? A stone pick should only give 64 Netherrack, but I got 132. Levy 05:57, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Mined 60 with wooden pick. Levy 05:57, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I have determined that it is not the netherrack that is making the pick last longer, but the durability of the items themselves seem to have been changed. Levy 12:38, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Spreading
Fire from netherrack will spread to other netherrack. On my SMP server (1.5_01) I was building a trench of flaming netherrack and I had a line of flaming netherrack.I accidentally hit one in the middle, putting the fire out. Just before i was about to light it, it burst back into flame. I tried this a few other times with different pieces in different positions and it happened again. Can someone else confirm this? (btw, they were the only things on fire for quite a distance around) --Deanm 01:22, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It's uber lag on your SMP server. Netherrack does NOT spread, or we'd have a 100% flaming ground in the Nether. --R ocĸetor talk  03:15, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually it's because you can't punch out fire on SMP, you need to break the block it's on or put a block on the fire to ever get rid of it. – ultradude25 ( T at 03:25, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you that helps a lot, and that's a good point R0cketor made with the nether, although my server has very little lag (It'll probably have more when i figure out how to port forward already). --Deanm 19:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Netherrack only found in hell : NOT TRUE.
If you have the biospheres mod, it is very rare that you can find a dome full of netherrack. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Metalcast3 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 03:14, 14 May 2011. Please sign your posts with


 * Keyword: Mod. and please sign your posts --Deanm 03:17, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

EDIT : This post was back when I was an idiot. I still used Darrow's MC and knew almost nothing of how a wiki works. Thank you for correcting my statement, Deanm. --Metalcast3 –The preceding undated comment was added on 19:39, 9 June 2012. Please sign your posts with

snow
in this page it says that snow can not form on netherrack however it does for me as long as it is not on fire. is it just me or should this be removed? The big un 08:27, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Maybe because you're placing it on the Overworld? 180.252.255.249 13:32, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

its not the only one
Nether rack isn't the only material lava seeps through –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.250.202.109 (Talk) 15:50, 24 September 2011. Please sign your posts with

Can complete a Nether Fortress with netherrack
I could reproduce the bug saying "when placed near nether brick, it turns to brick", but I think it's deeper that that. If you come across a half-finished fortress (i.e. a fortress with half rooms, halls ending in the void etc.), if you place a netherrack block where the rest of the structure should be, it turns instantly into the corresponding block that completes the structure, e.g. brick, fence, or even soul sand and nether warts. It looks like the terrain generator is not "turned off" for those sections. --85.24.202.188 11:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Sounds like it isn't rendering chunks properly (multiplayer lag?); when you try to place a block, it forces a visual update, revealing the block that is actually there. This will happen with whichever block you use, not just netherrack. -- Orthotope 23:42, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

setting netherrack on fire
it seems that netherrack can only be lit on top, not the sides. I tried this with other blocks and they work. Is this something specific feature, or is it a bug? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.125.187.194 (Talk) 23:12, 16 June 2012. Please sign your posts with


 * Feature. Fire will burn forever if the block directly below it is netherrack, but it doesn't check horizontally-adjacent blocks.

Bugs
in the bugs section it says that it is not flammable which really isn't a bug because it is not supost to be flammable or the nether would be all air and lava (as the netherrack would all be burned out of existence) also in the trivia section it says "Despite being flammable, Netherrack cannot be used as fuel in a Powered Minecart or Furnace." even though Netherrack is not flammable. 74.98.182.183 01:16, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Netherrack Can't be put out by rain, Confrimed
One time on Creavite mode, I decide to find out what blocks Can't be put out by rain. So I wait till it rains and light almost every blocks. The only block that Can't be put out (by rain) is Netherracks. FYI, No, there no thunder storm around to light it I use A flint and steel.

More ways to collect netherrack
The page claims: "Netherrack can only be collected with a pickaxe."

However, it can also be collected with a lilly-pad or anything else. What it should probably say is: "Netherrack only drops as item when mined with a pickaxe or blasted by explosion."

Mining speed mistake?
The mining speed for netherrack with a pickaxe does not match what is described in Breaking. If we follow the calculation with a diamond pickaxe and no other effects, netherrack has a hardness of 0.4, and since we can harvest the block, the base seconds is 0.6. Since we are using the best tool and diamond's multiplier is 8, and so, the speed should be 0.6 / 8 = 0.075 seconds. Is there something I am not understanding? 186.193.108.104 14:20, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The calculation does make it 0.075 seconds, but in Minecraft, block breaking is limited to 0.25 seconds (5 ticks) unless it exceeds 0.05 seconds (1 tick) – Unavailablehoax (talk) 15:14, 22 October 2020 (UTC)