Talk:Void/Archive 1

Similar effects
For more information on the Void, look at the "Hall of Mirrors" effect as seen in other games. User:Kookas 04:28, 04 January 2010 (UTC)

Deletion?
The webpage isn't about the bug, its about the void in general. I don't reckon it needs to be removed F1racer101 00:27, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * But it's just the skybox. What you see in the void is just the other side of the sky. – ultradude25 ( T 00:28, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Technically, it isn't a "skybox", as skyboxes tend to be boxes, but you are correct. The article sounds quite rough and the authors clearly aren't very experienced in this area. I've updated the article to make it sound less technologically impaired. User:Kookas 04:28, 04 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I added a template to it for this purpose, just to show that it doesn't exist anymore. --UncleRuckus 19:35, 1 November 2010 (CDT)


 * Does that mean we can remove the request for deletion?F1racer101 00:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I was going to, but I wasn't sure if others would approve. --UncleRuckus 23:56, 1 November 2010 (CDT)


 * Actually, new chunks might not have "the void" anymore, but old chunks still have it. So, I believe this article should not be deleted. Let's just keep it with that obsolete template. --CrazyTerabyte 11:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure though, because I generated a new world after the Halloween update and it still has gaps to the void in it. I might be mistaken though. --Gitgo567 –The preceding undated comment was added on 08:17, 8 November 2010. Please sign your posts with


 * See my topic below; lava lakes can still show the void on the latest version of Minecraft (1.2_02) LB 06:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Text error
The trivia sections says “If you open a hole to the void and block off all light sources, you can see that the void does in fact give off light. However, the bottom of the obsidian blocks on the last layer is completely dark.”. Should “obsidian” really say “bedrock”? Hawk777 06:39, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. Fixing..--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  13:08, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

The Void after Halloween Update
A massive gap with light.. I'm not ready to go down there yet. This was generated after the Halloween Update. Ruan942 06:03, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


 * edit: Okay, it is The Void. Time of day changed. Ruan942 00:08, 13 November 2010 (CST)

Edge
Can the Void exist at the edge of a map? Drenay 21:26, 15 December 2010 (CST)
 * As far as I know, no-one has made it to the edge of the map, and so it is unknown what is there. --Cooldudetb 12:47, 22 December 2010 (CST)
 * Yes, as the Void is simply any area where there are no blocks, and thus applies in every direction on a map. User:Kookas 04:28, 04 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it is not possible. Once you get to the edge, it randomly generates new parts of the map you cannot see on certain map editors. --YaYaBinksMinecraft
 * Yes, actually, it is. If you have your view distance set to the highest level, then you can see the edge of the loaded map from atop a tall mountain. After all, I believe the game only loads 4.5 chunks in any direction. The rest are stored to the HDD to free up RAM. Also, note that the sky is actually the Void (or, to make it simpler, the Void is actually the sky). By that logic, looking straight up will have you looking into the Void. Kookas
 * If you use essentials plugin and use the /tppos command try entering 0 130 32000000 so that you are in the far lands. i have done some experiments. the world will not generate correctly at all near x/z 32,000,000. but teleporting there causes all surrounding chunks of 32,000,000 will be mis-generated. be sure to enable god mode and creative mode for you will fall through and it will lag, lag, and lag for awhile. so you will die with only creative mode. then use creative to fly out of the void and you will see the coo-coo chunks that you can fall through. the only repair solution for these chunks is mcedit. beware on this fact! so anyway going to the far lands is another way to go into the depths of the void. Aaronfranke –The preceding undated comment was added on 02:09, 28 February 2012. Please sign your posts with

Void, when no terrain is displayed.
Sometimes, when you are on a high point, and you change your sight to far, minecraft has to load the terrain, while there is no terrain, you can see the void. --Freaktechnik 20:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity
Has anyone ever tried to build something OVER the top layer of the bedrock nether? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Grhaal (Talk&#124;Contribs) 18:53, 25 December 2010. Please sign your posts with
 * Yes, but it is not possible, its like Light trying to get through to the bedrock. --YaYaBinksMinecraft

Lava Lakes can clear massive holes to the Void
Here is a screenshot showing what deep down lava/magma lakes can do. I heard that the code for placing these lakes will remove everything (including bedrock) and leave just lava and a stone bed underneath. So, I went searching and found this nice lava lake. If I remove more of the rocks more of the void is revealed. Maybe this can be mentioned in the article? LB 06:00, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, it seems that someone has answered my plea and made a YouTube video and linked it in the article. Thank you :) LB 22:30, 19 March 2011 (UTC)


 * HELP! On the first few lines of text on this page it says the only way to access the void is in creative mode yet I have seen 3 lava lakes spawning at y:2 and replacing the bedrock with stone. Please edit that out because I can't for some reason, and it's false –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 92.30.173.43 (Talk) 16:17, 25 February 2012. Please sign your posts with

No Damage Mod: Will it work?
I'm too chicken to try this, but if you have a 'No Damage' mod on, and then fall into the Void, will it work? I'm quite curious. According to the article, it says that after Y-64, it hurts you at a rate of four hearts a second. Is this hard-coded into the game, or can it be overridden by a mod? MKSTAR26 06:43, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * It will work. But once you are in the void, you will be stuck. That's why the void kills you. If you want to jump in, get on a multiplayer server which has plugins (note: SP client mods do not work in SMP for infinite health), so you can rely on a godmode plugin then teleport to home, spawn, or another player. C ali nou - talk × contribs » 07:36, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * So what happens when you fall as far as the Far Lands are far away? Would it crash? MKSTAR26 08:03, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * no but don't do it you will get stuck. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Scribblegon (Talk&#124;Contribs) 23:06, 29 July 2011. Please sign your posts with


 * I have tried jumping into The Void while using SPC to disable fall damage, and damage in general. However, I still lost four hearts per second, and  when I ran out of hearts the game crashed.  Just tossing that out there.  I'll play around with this.  // 「RW」 18:50, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I have used the SPC mod to set an unlimited amount of hearts, and could travel in the Void, I was loosing hearts but since I had over 30000 it wasn't a problem, interesting experiment but there is not much to see actually. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.192.57.65 (Talk) 22:49, 25 February 2012. Please sign your posts with


 * Try God mode. You CANNOT get hurt! Even with /kill or /suicide or /die Aaronfranke –The preceding undated comment was added on 02:13, 28 February 2012. Please sign your posts with

getting in the void from the nether
well i have single player commands i went into the nether and had a bit of fun then I got bored and i couldn't find my portal so i went into single player commands and typed home(teleports you to spawn) this time it put me in the nether void safe cant get out i would have put a pic but i deleted the world i only started it today.have you had this happen? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Scribblegon (Talk&#124;Contribs) 23:03, 29 July 2011. Please sign your posts with

Particles in the void
In 1.8, When the player falls into/flies in the void, particles fly past the player with a "hyperspace" effect. Thanks Shellface, wording something like that but including all the info is a little tricky sometimes. --HexZyle 02:10, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * …Uh… No problem? Shellface 02:14, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

the void in creative mode 1.8.1
i was recently playing inn creative mode and got to bedrock. then, without any editing or mods, i was able to dig right through bedrock and into the void. Is this supposed to happen? i read this page, and it didn't help, so I'm just wondering if that is intended, or just a glitch. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.229.102.180 (Talk) 22:57, 19 September 2011. Please sign your posts with


 * In creative mode you can break every block, even bedrock. --Saphireking65 15:21, 4 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is supposed to happen and you can also fly without mods or hacks thats why i like it. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Monkeyhead123 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 15:18, 4 October 2011. Please sign your posts with

Move to "The Sky" section?
In the Category:Environment template. Since the Void is technically part of the sky, shouldn't it be moved from the category "Places" to "The Sky"? Seeing as there will be ACTUAL new "Places", new players might assume the Void is a different realm, like the Nether or the Ender. Verveblade14 23:39, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably. But it's in places because it exists outside of the overworld. That's the reason i can think of. --HexZyle 03:53, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, But so does the sky :/ -Verveblade14 18:15, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought the sky referred to "objects in the sky", rather than the actual place --HexZyle 19:54, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That's true... But the void is kind of in the sky. Plus, the Void really isn't like the Overworld, or the Nether.-Verveblade14 20:05, 10 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Execta! When I made the new Environment template I putted together "objects in the sky" and putted the void in a different place because you can be IN it, it's not like the sun or moon which are just sprites, the void is an actual place, which you can stand in. Yes it is not like the overworld and nether, but that is why the title of the segment was changed from "dimensions" to "places" somewhere along the way!--Yurisho 20:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You can only stand in it in the way you can stand in the sky. >_> -Verveblade14 20:42, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, if we want to get technical here, you can't be in the sky. You can be in the Air, but not the Sky because it is objective. The air a couple blocks above the world and the air a thousand blocks above the earth is the same. If one were to look up at you, they could say "Hey look who is in the sky". (objective point of view) But technically you aren't in the sky. "The sky is the limit", and since there is no limit, there technically is no sky :P Also, the sky is just the blue colour with a yellow circle that is drawn beyond your reach. You can never go there, as it is not a 3d shape. Its an ever expanding skybox. --HexZyle 03:33, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

The End Void
Is there a void in the end? --Markoszarrate 17:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes. The End has a build limit like every other dimension, and falling off the bottom of the map will kill you in the End as it would in the World. Euridicus 00:11, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

messy crossing out
The crossed out bit in the introduction looks very messy. why wasn't it just changed to past tense? I would say that if no more comments are posted here I will change it but I'll probably forget.86.146.120.143 15:45, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

what is the Void's purpose???
what is the Void's purpose

could it be:


 * a out-of-the-way to travel to the Nether or the End
 * an admin area below the Y and X position that items vanish
 * how about a place that could become a future dimension

i like to thing it's a hidden admin area for the developers to mingle online at... then again it could be a way to travel to the Nether or the End without a portal...anyway post what you think the Void's purpose is

thank you

username: CreeperTy123

207.190.163.33 19:10, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well apparently it's just a spot where the map just drops off into nothingness, so it really can't be used for anything because, a: there is nothing to stand on, and b: it is actually the end of the map. I'm assuming you mean in SMP because in SSP you are the only one there. P.s. in creative try falling in, and you'll see you can't place blocks like the page said. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.18.55.207 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 16:47, 29 May 2012‎. Please sign your posts with


 * This isn't the place for discussion, and there is an actual reason for it. If it wasn't for the void, the ground could go down infinitely, and because of the limit of the map height, they can't have it go down forever, otherwise it would cause lag and require a lot of memory for all the blocks it has to load. Also, it would be hard to decide a place to make diamonds, redstone, iron, gold and other ores start. 72.209.199.2 20:34, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, true that if the ground kept going it would crash. But if you do hack it, than you CAN have a secret admin zone. but i think chuck norrises house should be down there! -24.62.109.70 16:57, 29 August 2012 (UTC) cant get to his house

Incorrect Note?
Under "Notes" there is a fact listed: "If water touches the boundary of the Void, the particle effect of the Void will be transmitted through all of the water it is touching."

See, I thought that would be a really neat effect so I tried it. It didn't work. Either I did it wrong, or it is erroneous information. 68.0.121.221 23:49, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

MCPE Void
If you go to the edge of the map (not the Far Lands, just the edge of normal minecraft) in Minecraft Pocket Edition Lite and dig straight down, you can see the Void in blue. This is useful in mining tunnels because you can see what time of day it is. There is no void fog. Should we add this in? - MinecraftPhotos4U 12:22, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Contradiction
"When viewed on a map, the Void is seen as the pattern used for an unexplored area." seems to contradict "If a map is forced to map the Void, Minecraft crashes.". 75.118.51.238 17:21, 27 October 2012 (UTC) Yeah, I see it too. But since it's not currently meant to be in the game, it will react strangely. - MinecraftPhotos4U 18:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Clarification
What does "If you are standing inside of your body (using F5) digging 3 times will make you fall out of the world" mean? 75.118.51.238 17:21, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

The void is not a dimension
The Nether, The End and the Overworld has different world files, but the void is a place in the Overworld, not a dimension. metarmask 18:19, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I can't fall into it. Bug?
I tried 2 times,I tried doing stuff on videos. It did not work. Bug? --108.193.168.124 21:29, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Game won't crash after fall above -32000000?
In Trivia:" and enabling you to fall to y = -32000000, crashing the game." I used 1.7.4 and make Steve fall to Y=-32000000,game didn't crashed. IceSnow69 10:58, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Can I add a photo? How do I add Photo? Do Spies even have cameras? :>
I was playing around with what the page said for having a black box around you as the player, and notice a neat little piece of info. The "Black Box" effect occurs around the waist to maybe only a little bit over the head, ( I didn't venture too deep below the world, Cluck Cluck :/ ) I used 1.7.10 to view this. Also if possible can someone locate where this Black Box texture is so I can mod it in a pack? :3 --Purple Spy (talk) 20:50, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

What exactly is the void?
I've been curious, too curious for my own good, and i'd like to know how to obtain a chunk of voidmatter (lol paradox in a way). Is it literally the lack of all blocks (including air) or is it it's own ID? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Purple Spy (talk • contribs) at 23:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * The void is basically the lack of support for placing blocks, it is all space above or below the building zone (although above is usually referred to as the sky). Corrupted chunks act kinda like the void, but are inconsistent and bad for your world. --KnightMiner  (t 00:45, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * So basically its Air located above 255 or below 0? Am i just asking for something i can never have the real thing legitimately? Purple Spy (talk) 09:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


 * It acts basically the same, except you cannot place blocks there. And yes, there is no way to obtain it, since it is simply empty space. --KnightMiner  (t 01:07, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Rewrite for style
I want to rewrite this page, and move the tutorial information to Tutorials/The Void. Any protests? -- Naista2002  ♦   13:09, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


 * No, go ahead and rewrite it. Laura Fidalgo  (Talk / Contribs)  13:18, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Creative
I am pretty sure that in creative, the void kills you. However, I play pocket edition, so I might be missing something. Can we discuss what to put? The BlobsPaper.png 01:43, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Are you saying that in Pocket Edition, creative mode, the void kills you? Does it kill you at any negative height, or just below certain heights? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 03:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I mean that you fall into the void and die a few seconds later. The BlobsPaper.png 02:14, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * In the Pocket Edition, the Void hurts you already below the bedrock layer, not below Y of -64. It used to kill people regardless of game mode. However, in latest versions, the Void doesn’t kill users at Creative, and it apparently comes with an invisible barrier at Y of about -32 (like the void barrier from Console Editions, but much lower). I even found a user who noticed that: yesterday an anonymous guest wrote on the talk page of Russian wiki’s article about the Void that he could “walk” in the Void without death. He said he was playing Pocket Edition, and I’m sure he was in Creative mode. — Agent NickTheRed37 (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * In the new version (somewhere between 0.11 and 0.13), the barrier on Y: -32 was removed, making the game crash if you go very deep into the void in Creative Mode, and you respawn at the point where you saved your world, and lose some of the unsaved content, usually, when you go into main menu of MCPE, your progress gets saved.
 * (Hey! Agent NickTheRed. We had similar names...) --220.255.210.186 10:44, 7 February 2016 (UTC) (AgentRed2, MCPE)


 * I can confirm in 0.14 snapshots and in 0.13.2, there's definitely an invisible barrier down there, as NickTheRed37 said. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 17:00, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Should 'void' be capitalized?
The article title uses a capital V, which would imply that it's a proper noun. But the article itself uses a lowercase v almost exclusively, and I hesitate to change so many instances. So, is it a proper noun or not? — Randomwaffle23 (talk) 01:14, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The page should probably just be moved to void. There's no need for the "the" and it breaches the style guide (or it should). – Nixinova Nixinova sig1.png Nixinova sig2.png 05:43, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * moving, the only other pages that have "the" in the article name are the Nether and the End, but for those it’s actually the in-game ID, as that includes it; the void has no in-game ID, nor is the name shown anywhere. FVbico (talk) 06:16, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * moving as well—I was actually going to suggest the same move if the consensus was that it's not a proper noun, but honestly it should probably be moved regardless. There is a biome called "The Void", but it doesn't have much of anything to do with the subject of this article (the space below y=0). — Randomwaffle23 (talk) 06:45, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * moving to simply "Void".--Madminecrafter12 (Talk to me 01:53, 7 April 2019 (UTC)