User talk:Kanegasi/archive4

Meeples10's Recent Vandalism
I am sorry somebody using my account did it, I didn't know they did it, but I won't do it. Meeples10 18:43, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It's all right, just be more careful with your account info and always logout of computers that aren't yours. Even if you trust someone, we only allow one person per account on the wiki.  00:22, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I just recently went over to my friend's house and asked him about this, and it was him. i got on his computer and removed my information from his computer. Meeples10 21:15, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome
Welcome to the admin team! Get yourself added to the admin list, and introduce yourself on the Director's talk page. -- Wynthyst  talk  08:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I'm really excited to help out the wiki even more.  16:49, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Wow, congrats for becoming an admin! How did you become one anyway? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 00:54, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * He showed his dedication to making the wiki better by patrolling recent changes, undoing vandalism, assisting other users by answering posted questions, and adding contributing edits over a period of time, indicating he wasn't going to just leave. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  01:10, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I guess that was fairly obvious. Well done Kanegasi! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 01:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Numbermaniac, and thanks again Wynthyst. :D  02:03, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations Kanegasi! You deserve it. :) — Hower64 02:56, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks Hower64. :D  02:58, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

"Kanegasi deleted Piston … Kanegasi restored Piston" -- wait… Kanegasi?! Oh! Look at that! Congratulations! : ) &mdash;Munin295 &middot;  &middot; 03:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Hehe, thanks.  03:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

A little bit late: Congratulations! ILeon ᐸ Diskussion Beiträge DE Admin 17:41, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, and congrats on the DE wiki promotion as well.  18:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks :) ChickenSig.png ILeon ᐸ Diskussion Beiträge DE Admin 18:26, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Good job, keep it up. you may get promoted again. does senior admin sound enticing?Robstar14... anything but! 19:12, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Bureaucrat perhaps? -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 02:05, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk page edit changes
When I come to edit a talk page, there's a completely new box, saying "This is 's talk page." Did you do that? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 07:48, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes. I implemented something similar to Template:Talknotice, but on all talk pages. It will display the same thing for any non-user talk page, but on user talk pages, it presents the user's name for that talk page. For the Community portal, it welcomes the editor and removes the Community portal link. Did you have feedback?  07:51, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I actually like it. Hopefully it deters people from editing pages with things that shouldn't actually be on the wiki, such as bugs. It's a great idea. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 23:56, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the feedback. :)  00:19, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

User page header box
How did you get the box at the top of your user page? In the code, I couldn't really see anything to do with that box. How? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 05:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It's transcluded from User talk:Kanegasi/msgbox. It's just a msgbox with custom colors using the same link as the "Add topic" tab at the top.  05:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Forgive me if I read it wrong, but I was referring to the big box on e top of your user page. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 06:13, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, the link list on the top left? That's at User:Kanegasi/nav. I use the includeonly and noinclude functions of wp:Transclusion. When you view the nav page directly, it only shows the lists of my pages, but when you transclude the page, it shows the navigation.  06:21, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I learn so much about wiki editing every day. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 07:37, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Instant video protection
Sorry to bug you so much, I seem to be putting a lot of posts on your talk page.

When I uploaded the video a out pistons to Piston/video, why did you instantly protect it? Why do all the videos have to be protected like that? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 02:45, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * They are protected to prevent vandalism. Once they are put up, there is no need to edit them. This is why they are put on a separate subpage instead of directly into the relevant page. Every video, even before I started on this wiki, has been protected.
 * Also, when making these video subpages, make sure to use the following code:


 * 03:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I guess I never thought of it that way. Makes sense. I didn't know about the special code either. Thanks. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 03:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Anyone can create those and keep up with the video releases and an admin will come around and protect it. I've been keeping up with most of the recent additions in the past month or so, but I haven't gone through any older ones to see if they were all accounted for, as you seem to be doing. You're doing great.  03:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks :D. I've just been going to random pages (though not through the random page link on the left) and seeing if the video is there or not. If not, I find it on google, make sure it's the correct one, and add it in! :) -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 03:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * No need to Google. Just use the search bar on mcspotlight's channel http://www.youtube.com/user/mcspotlights  03:36, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * If only I had known that before! Thanks! :D -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 03:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh wait, this is interesting. Looking at that Brick video, it seems that's on their curseentertainment channel. I thought all of those videos were on mcspotlights. Both channels are legit. They also have a CurseNetwork channel, but I believe they abandoned that one in favor of the entertainment name.  03:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

I found that interesting too. When I had searched on google (before you have me the link) I couldn't find anything about it by mcspotlights. I found one by curseentertainment, and when I watched it, it was exactly the same!-- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 04:11, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Sandbox
Howdy, Kanegasi!

How does one get to his/her user sandbox easier, and how does one select a title for it? Thanks

Mavik 21:55, 9 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think the Minecraft Wiki has user sandboxes. You could create one here, but there is no formal sandbox like Wikipedia. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 03:51, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does have a "formal" organized approach to sandboxes, but they're nothing more than specifically named userspace pages. This wiki doesn't have anything in place to navigate to any specific page in your userspace other than the common.js and common.css pages in your preferences page that comes with MediaWiki. The only way to create a page in your userspace is to go to your userpage and just type a / and the desired page name in the url, other than following Special:MyPage links, as Numbermaniac provided. You are allowed to do practically anything in your userspace, provided that applicable rules are still followed.  04:55, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry. I just gave it as one way. but that is another option, probably preferable. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 07:48, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks guys


 * Mavik 14:32, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Not vandalism
If you noticed the top of User:hotdogPi/Creeper, it says "You can edit this page". Even though the number was ridiculous, it wasn't vandalism. It's also a funny page. (I don't think the number should be that high though.) hotdogPi--t--c--QUIZ! 18:28, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh oops. I knew about your edit invites too, I just completely forgot about that. I know you have a running number on your main page lol.  18:30, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

History
Maybe it's a good idea to make a history tab on pages like mobs, like when what mob was added and really big changes to mobs? Ftwgameshd 18:53, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by a tab? Are you talking about the wiki tabs on top?  20:46, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I just meant a section like you see on almost all pages. Ftwgameshd 20:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, I get it. When mobs were added and any specific changes wouldn't fit on that article though. No sense in maintaining the same history entries on more than one page. Generic changes like AI or how all mobs act would fit there though.  21:11, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

LukiGamer in your common.css
LukiGamer is since January 2012 no admin in the German MinecraftWiki. ILeon ᐸ Talk Contribs  Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png de.minecraftWiki Admin  20:36, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The three lists of icon-adding code consists of only user rights on this wiki. He/she still has the director here, and which is also why some users were removed. I would personally like to clean up user rights, since it all looks inconsistent (like one director has admin, the case you mentioned, other language wiki users aren't marked here, and not all admins have check user).  20:50, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe ask User:Wynthyst. ChickenSig.png ILeon ᐸ Talk Contribs  Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png de.minecraftWiki Admin  20:57, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I know, but that's something a bit too much to ask for as a new admin, and it isn't a big issue.  20:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Your user page... and something else
What in the world happened to your user page with the weird font? And also that massive box with "Kanegasi" in the title?

Also, is there an easy way to add the "Rule#something:Something" kind of text at the end of an edit summary without having to type Minecraft Wiki:Wiki rules ? Thanks, -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 11:10, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * That weird font is Courier New. I just put it in the styling for my userpage stuff (it's the same font that and < tt> use). For the page titles, that's some neat code magic someone figured out for me on IRC when I was trying to change the capitalization of Mods/Apis instead of moving it to Mods/APIs, which I didn't think about doing. When I realized how this code magic could be used, I put it on all of my userpages. It's at User:Kanegasi/stuff if you want to take a look, and the way it's set, you could probably just throw onto any page and it should work.
 * For your summary thing, you can shorten it to Project:Wiki Rules or use my editsummarypresets script.  11:18, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Seriously, that looks really interesting on your stuff page. :P. I didn't recognise the font before, lol. Also, how does the nowiki self-closing tag work exactly? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 11:24, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Did I add the script right? I can't see anything different. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 11:26, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't copy the script, use the code in the script header or just copy what I have on my User:Kanegasi/common.js. For the nowiki self-closing tag, almost any tag can be self-closing, but it'll only work depending on what the tag is. In nowiki's case, it's basically like using a period to split a sentence into two. Just throw the self-closing tag anywhere in the middle of a template, wiki link, or anything that requires open and close brackets and you cancel out what they do. I even nowiki'd that nowiki.  11:29, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, what am I getting wrong here? Is it because I'm still using the default code for the preset text? Or something else? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 12:38, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Did you clear your cache after editing your common.js? You usually have to perform the special refresh twice.  12:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I think so, but nothing really happens. Does it not work on tablets...? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 12:46, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Replace that entire advisor script with the following single line:
 * mw.loader.load('https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cameltrader/Advisor.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
 * For the editsummary script, just copy what I have on my User:Kanegasi/common.js and see if that works.  13:45, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

That will make it a lot easier to read through the text. I shall do that when I get on the computer. Thanks! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 01:20, 21 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, now that 52,818 characters of code disppeared from my common.js, time to add that editsummarypresets script in. Yay! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:35, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Put the very top line of my common.js into the top of your common.js.  08:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * What does that do? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:57, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, as much as I don't understand it, that makes it work! Cool!!!! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:58, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The delayed reaction was pretty funny, to be honest. Anyways, the two usual ways you can load a script is by using "importScript" or "mw.loader.load". "importScript" is a Javascript function that used to require manual defining in old mediawiki versions, but it's now a part of the wiki. This is typically used for calling a script straight from a page link in the same wiki. "mw.loader.load" is what you need to use when you are using a url to get a script, but it also loads the script after the page loads, which can be useful if you want to get the content of the page to load faster. The line I had you add at the top is what ultradude25 did to his .js page. It defines a "mw.loader.localLoad" variable that when given a local wiki page, it appends it into the url, uses the mw.loader.load function, and then loads the script.  09:15, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Interesting. Thanks!!
 * Actually, while I'm here, are IPs allowed to have user pages? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 09:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see why not. I'm assuming this is about that one friendly IP with a large talk page. It would be nice if they made an account, but there's no rule against an IP using their userspace, however odd that would be, especially if that's not a permanent IP like User:Simons Mith. If it turns out their ISP gives them a dynamic IP and they start moving their pages to their new IP, I say they have to get an account.  09:24, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

You mean User talk:70.181.68.226? And Simon Miths doesn't show up. Actually, now I think I get it. Maybe. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 09:28, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oops, fixed the link.  09:30, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I most definitely did not mean you could make his page. Creating another user's page is editing in their space without their permission. If they wanted a userpage, they will create it.  09:49, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I just tested. User pages fall under the "no new pages" thing for IPs. Still, you should've waited until they said ok, even though it's an IP and they really should just create an account.  09:55, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Kanegasi! I actually think I did give him permission to make my page, because I said, I'd really like to have a user page, and that I didnt know if it was allowed. So, by telling him I would like one would basically be giving him permission. Am I correct? Thanks! 70.181.68.226 11:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Plus, why should I make an account when I can make changes just as well as an IP? 70.181.68.226 12:17, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * And I did edit the Aerbunny page. I didn't edit the info itself, but I focused more on the capitalization, and deleting unnecessary sentences. You can check it out if you want. 70.181.68.226 15:33, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * First of all, this is the second time I've seen you randomly break a section header. Stupid stuff like that is called "vandalism" and will get you blocked, even if you hide vandalism in benign edits. Anyways, while some things listed don't apply on this wiki, take a look at WP:BENEFITS.  18:00, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? I don't do anything wrong on purpose. 70.181.68.226 18:37, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Playing on servers tutorial
How come you deleted the talk page for Tutorials/Playing on servers but not the actual tutorial itself? –  Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 13:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The talk page was created by an anonymous user talking about some random server experiences irrelevant to the tutorial. If there's only one contribution to a talk page like that, it's better to delete the page instead of blanking it. The reason I didn't delete the tutorial is because it's a legitimate tutorial.  13:06, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok got it. I didn't realise the content of the talk page was so irrelevant to the main article. Also thanks for the quick reply. –  Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 13:08, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit Counter
With your edit counter, is it possible to make it so that you can transclude the whole table normally as well as just the total amount of edits? In other words is it possible for me to show the table on my user page while also showing my total amount of edits in my user info box? – Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 08:08, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * No. This is a limitation of transclusion. If the page you want transcluded has any of the transcludesection code, which requires to work, nothing else will come through the transclusion. I have considered getting the script to make two pages just for this function, but haven't looked into this or considered how necessary it would be. Now that you've asked, it'll be on my to-do list. Someone on Wikipedia asked for something else and I'm still chipping away at the count accuracy issue, which is very good as it is, but my deleted edits count is still 5 off (that count is in a tooltip on the total number if you want to see yours).  08:22, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok then, I look forward to the update when the time comes! Also that's a neat feature showing the deleted edits - is my one correct? –  Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 08:27, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Your actual deleted count is 19. One of the issues I found is that counting file overwrites (which do not increment the server total) includes overwrites of deleted files. This essentially lowers your file namespace count and inflates the difference between the script's count and the server total, which is what the tooltip shows, a simple math difference. What's odd is that your count is lower. The last time you used it, was it v90?  08:51, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I just ran the counter again to make sure that I was using v90, and it still has the same problem. –  Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 09:06, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I didn't expect the problem to go away, but I thought that your previous use may have used the first math I had, which was different. I'll get to the bottom of it eventually, but for now, it's close enough.  09:15, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Is there a way to show the deleted edits as its own cell, regardless of whether there is a contribution page like that? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:50, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

About that template
You deleted that page, right? I don't know how to make a navbox on all my pages without template. By the way... THATWAS THE ONLY COPY! NOW I HAVE TO MAKE IT AGAN! Meeples10 10:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Can you at least put the page back, copy the nav box onto this page, and delete the Template:Meeples10 page again? It would make me very happy. Meeples10 10:22, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Done. And to transclude a userpage, just use the full title (i.e, with "User:" in front). E.g., { {User:Meeples10/Doing Stuff with Templates}}. However, since you're transcluding the page on its parent page (User:Meeples10), you can just use { {/Doing Stuff with Templates}}. — Hower64 11:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It was not your only copy. I took into account the history of the original page at User:Meeples10/Navbox. Even though it was slightly different, you had something to go back on. I still would've helped out like Hower64 did, if I was awake, but just reminding you that you had an old copy.  18:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah... I rgot you can undo edits... Meeples10 20:10, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

editsummarypresets
In the editsummarypresets script, why do you have to make the text as "[ " + " [link]"? Why does two square brackets just not work? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:48, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It does work, that's the problem, we don't want it to. If it does, the script page will have those links and categories on them. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 08:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * How does it show the link on the script page? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 09:00, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * A script page is just like any other wikipage, it's just wrapped in a pre. The links won't show up but they'll still be there, which can be seen from the whatlinkshere pages. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 09:45, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh. I see. That makes sense. Cool, thanks. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 09:47, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * When I got that script, I was in the "learning" stages of my edit counter script. One of the things I learned, which ultradude25 explained, was that pre-save transform parser functions don't work in a script. Pre-save transform means that you see the result of the </tt> function in the preview before saving, basically. One good example is the subst function, which upon preview, will be replaced with whatever you are substituting. Script pages count in this. When I was using the time function, I was putting it straight into the script and it would save into a date when saving my script changes instead of letting the script use it to post a date. I originally thought this included any bracket usage, so when I put my custom edit summaries together, I split everything. Then a few people started using my script. The problem with these links still counting in the MW software presented itself when 007a83 made these categories: Category:' + 'Screenshots and Category:' + 'User images. When ultradude25 deleted those, I thought my script made them lol. Turns out those two categories are being listed as wanted categories because my common.js and two other users' js pages were being listed as in those categories. That's when he suggested that I split the bracket so that the script page neither "links" nor is counted in that category. This is also why I split all brackets, so that my common.js doesn't show up in any "What links here" page.  18:07, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Wow, that was a very long explanation lol. Is there a specific page for "What links here"? Probably a special page? And thanks for that explanation! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 10:06, 27 April 2013 (UTC)


 * On any page in the wiki, in the toolbox on the left. Should be the very first link.  14:02, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Lol, I wonder why I didn't notice that. Guess I never paid much attention to the toolbox. Or I just never noticed that link. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 03:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Me again...
I was wondering if you could delete these pages for me:

1. User:Meeples10/Recent Vandalism (I think that is resolved)

2. User:Meeples10/Survival 3 (I'm too far ahead now to remember what I did)

3. User:Meeples10/Page Deleted (If I don't have any pages to delete, why have this?)

4. User:Meeples10/Minecraft 2.0 (An official page has been made)

5. User:Meeples10/Doing Stuff with Templates (Too many broken links)

×Meeples10× 18:43, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


 * 19:23, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! ×Meeples10× 20:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I have on more question for you: Do you play on a multiplayer server, and if so, which one? ×Meeples10× 20:50, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I actually have not played Minecraft in quite a while. I keep it up to date and open it up for testing every once in a while, and I was playing in a single player world last month, but it's been about half a year since I've played in a server. A guy in my WoW guild hosted one throughout most of 1.2, but around the time 1.3.1 came out, he stopped. I can't wait for Realms to go public though. Much easier way to play with others in my situation.  20:58, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


 * OK, fine with me! ×Meeples10× 23:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Help!
On Wikipedia, why can't I use importScript or mw.loader.load to use scripts that are subpages of my userpage? Help! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Are you clearing your cache every time you change your common.js, or any in-use .js page? There are instructions at the top of the common.js on Wikipedia similar to what we have here on our .js pages. You must clear your cache several times to see the result of your changes.  will work as you tried the first time.   10:08, 29 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Now the problem is that the text doesn't show. The color is #000, black, and clicking on it moves me to the top. But it doesn't show. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 05:22, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I just tested it on Wikipedia. I see the text just fine. That change you did to turn it black from white also needed you to clear your cache. I'm assuming it's working now.  03:22, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

If there's someone that vandalized a page, and no one noticed, where would I report them? --70.181.68.226 03:33, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


 * No report needed if it's just an edit or two. Simply undo it/them. A lot of vandals seem to just hit and run and most don't come back. If the vandal has done multiple edits and seems to be causing a disruption or not stopping, then you can report it on the Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard.  03:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay. If you care, it was the inventory page. The vandal switched up the creative inventory items. I thought what, since when was CAKE in the category Transportation? And I reverted it. Thanks! --70.181.68.226 03:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, I remember seeing that earlier today at work. Yea, it's likely they won't edit again, or make another random edit days or weeks from now.  03:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay! Thanks! Oh, I love it when people revert vandalism. --70.181.68.226 03:44, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yep, script worked fine the next day. Thanks! Oh, and when reporting vandalism, use in the header. --  Numbermaniac  - T  - C 05:49, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Makes sense. --70.181.68.226 09:25, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Question regarding talk pages
Hi there, I was wondering why all of you talk pages redirect to this page. My guess is so people don't write on those pages?? – Goandgoo ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1.1em;vertical-align:-1.0em;"> Talk  Contribs  Edit count 07:54, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not really about the other pages, I just want one talk page. To me, it's pointless to keep track of several personal talk pages. Even if someone wants to make a topic about a specific page, I would rather have it here so it's with everything else. Think of one's userspace as its own wiki. Even though you sometimes talk about a specific page, if you are addressing the wiki as a whole, you want the community portal as a central location. Every post on my talk page should be addressing me (as a whole), so one central location is best.  10:17, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I understand what you mean. Btw your user pages use font-family:Courier New. What other font families are there (is there a link which shows me all the possible font families)? –  Goandgoo ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1.1em;vertical-align:-1.0em;"> Talk  Contribs  Edit count 12:45, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * w3c documentation for font-family and for list of fonts, if you use Windows, you can pull up the Character Map system accessory. There's also a Fonts folder in your control panel.  12:54, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * http://w3fools.com/
 * See here for the actual w3c docs and see MDN for an actually good web dev reference. –ultradude25 ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 13:59, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You know that feeling when you suddenly discover everything you know is wrong? ... Yeah... I thought they were w3c.
 * w3schools is usually the first result in Google too. It's like when Wowpedia started and Wowwiki still dominated the Google results. I still have a greasemonkey script installed that autocorrects Wowwiki links to Wowpedia. Thanks for the heads-up, ultradude25.  14:29, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * They want people to think they're an official resource, and because they've spent so long building up their google ranks, it's basically impossible for useful sites to break past them. I wish google still allowed you to block results... they removed that in favour of a chrome extension, which is pretty lame. –ultradude25 ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 14:38, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Can I make this page?
I've been looking around on talk pages of articles regarding world generation, and a few of them have requests for a page to list seeds. I almost forgot the most important part:

I BEAT A WORLD RECORD!!!!!!!!!!

×Meeples10× 13:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * No. There are plenty of resources for seeds that will always be more robust than whatever we can create, such as the forums for example. Plus, a list of seeds is so fluid, I don't believe a wiki is a good place to host one.  18:12, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * OK. By the way, there is no wiki rule that says a user page can't list seeds, so I'll just make a user page anyone can edit. ×Meeples10× 20:07, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That's perfectly acceptable. Your userspace is yours, provided that some rules are still followed. There's a note at the bottom of the rules page that lists them.  20:10, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Catalan translation template
Hey, Kanegasi. I noticed you removed Template:Catalan. The point of it is to display the right name in Catalan on the crafting grid and link to the right '/ca' article at the same time. I hope you're ok with it if I recreate the template, as I've just finished with the list. Cupkle 22:47, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, I see your point. I took the template's creation out of context and deleted it assuming it was going to be used alone. This is actually a neat idea and for now, it can stay as Template:Catalan, but if your intent works and it comes out as a neater way to translate, we should probably make it something like Template:Translate/ca or Template:Translatenames/ca so that other translation projects can use it as well in their grid templates.  00:04, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure, thanks for the support. I tried to move the template, but I messed up: I noticed the Move button right after I created 'Translate/ca', can you please delete it? Thanks! Cupkle 11:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * 13:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Rules Revision 1
I'm still not completely sure what's the purpose of this page. Could you please explain it to me? Thanks –<b style=color:#282>Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-1em>Talk Contribs Edit count 02:36, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * When that page was created in February 2011, the current rule set was not much different from what we have now. That revision page was initially an edit copy of the rules and followed a slightly different path. The problem we have now is that since the current rules are linked in a ton of edit summaries, essentially codifying them, there can't be much of a change to the rule numbers. That page has been slowly tinkered with since 2011 and copying the current rule set into the page defeats the purpose of the edit copy. If you look on the talk page of the revision 1 page, Wynthyst points out that drastic changes won't really happen quickly and the rule numbers must stay the same. It's essentially a stale project, since I'm not sure much change will happen to the current rules.  02:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * On a slightly related subject, could the code you told me about a while ago in regards to centering it be added to Project:Wiki Rules/Video policy? Thanks! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That code would fit better on the style guide.  17:50, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Hosting Providers using Multicraft
Hi, please add reptilehosting.com as hosting provider. tried to edit without luck. thanks --Cronoszeu 05:13, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * 16:11, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Template
You deleted and moved it to my userspace. Is there any way I can use MeepWelcome}} and still get this? ×Meeples10× 17:46, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I have also posted on your talk page.  17:47, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Tanks :D ×Meeples10× 17:52, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Deleted edits: NaN?!
Why is it that, when I update the edit count, it sometimes changes the deleted edits count to "Not a Number"?! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 07:45, 13 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That was a bug I accidentally introduced last week. It should already be fixed. Make sure you are using the current version (107).  18:04, 13 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah, I was using 103. Why does it sometimes vary by device? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 05:59, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Web cache WP:Bypass your cache  06:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I know, but... oh wait never mind. Sorry. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 06:43, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You don't have to be sorry lol. I figured linking both of those was the simplest way of explaining. Basically, each device has its own cache with its own version of contents at various dates of retrieval.  07:08, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I figured it out in the end. I said sorry because I thought you were a bit mad with the edit summary of "...". -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:30, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm never mad. I may get slightly annoyed now and then, or in this case, confused that the concept of a cache wasn't fully grasped, but never mad. There's extremely few triggers I have in person, but over the Internet, it's impossible.  08:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok then. :D. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:57, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Bulk plural fix
Hi there, when I was scanning through the Recent Changes list, I realised that you bulk plural linked doors]] to door]]s. How did you do this?

On a side note, when I click on Recent changes on the sidebar, is there a way to make it so that it defaults to 500 entries? –<b style=color:#282>Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-1em>Talk Contribs Edit count 13:17, 16 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I do it manually. I open all the pages that need fixing in a ton of tabs, and patiently fix each one. Then, after fixing, I set it up so that all I have to do is ctrl + tab through the tabs and hit enter to submit them. This is like the third or fourth plural deletion I've done so far and it was the biggest. I don't fix userspace links though. A lot of users still don't have a grasp on userspace etiquette where you should not edit a userspace that is not your own, with exception to spam, vandalism, other rarely broken userspace rules, and the owner of the space saying you can.
 * For the recent changes setting, see Special:Preferences.  19:26, 16 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It would be much faster and easier to use AWB to fix them automatically. If for some reason you can't or don't want to use AWB, I'd be happy to do it for you. — Hower64 03:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * But how do you use AWB on this wiki? -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 04:14, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Same as Wikipedia except you have to set it to point to minecraftwiki. Go Options -> Preferences then in the Site tab change the project to 'custom' and set the url to www.minecraftwiki.net/. — Hower64 06:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Huh, didn't know you could do that. Then again, I can't use it anyway. But that is cool. :D -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 06:35, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Anyone can use AWB on this wiki, even if you're not an admin. — Hower64 06:39, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh. Cool. It's just that I never downloaded it because I never had rights on Wikipedia. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 06:45, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I have considered tinkering with AWB, but haven't gotten around to doing it. I have downloaded it and read the wikipedia page on it, but so far, I've been comfortable with manual editing. As for you fixing the plurals, you're more than welcome to, but I don't have any specific list or structure to getting them all fixed. I'm not exactly out searching for plural redirects, or any redirects that can be accomplished with that MW link function, I'm just kind of running into them and deciding to charge into it at that time. Doors was pretty interesting, seeing as that was created that way and was around long enough for a decent amount of links to saturate the wiki.  05:22, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, cool :) — Hower64 06:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Item durability response
I used INVEdit.--Weather368 20:00, 17 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You used it for what? This does not explain anything. That is also a mod. Information obtained from a mod should be treated with skepticism. Do not change the numbers again on that page without providing better proof.  05:22, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Questions

 * 1) Is there a limit to the size of a page?
 * 2) Is there a way to apply for admin?
 * 3) Who made this wiki?
 * 4) When did you become an admin?
 * 5) How is revealing your IP dangerous?

×Meeples10× 01:53, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * (talk page stalker):


 * 1) Yes. I don't know exactly, but check User:1234567890Number.  His went over the limit, hence two extension pages.
 * 2) Not sure.
 * 3) Same as above.
 * 4) 5 April, check.
 * 5) If a hacker visits this wiki and sees your IP address, they could easily hack it and implant some sort of malware into it.
 * -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 01:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I mean that they could hack your computer. All they need is your ip. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 02:02, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I was asking Kanegasi, because the last time I checked, you were not an admin. 216.81.100.188 02:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oops. Forgot I wasn't logged in. ×Meeples10× 02:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Numbermaniac provided the answers he could, because the last time I checked, all talk pages are open to the community. Everybody has the right to post or reply to anyone on any talk page. As for your answers:
 * The default limit to a page is 2,048 kB. The LocalSettings.php file in a MediaWiki installation is not publically accessible, even to read, so I do not know if this wiki has a custom limit.
 * There is no formal process to apply for the sysop user right on this wiki. I was indirectly asked to become one back in December, but I turned the offer down over email due to my work-related schedule. I approached the subject again at the beginning of April and was approved. Wynthyst provides a great explanation above in the topic Numbermaniac linked as to why she accepted me.
 * User:Citricsquid and User:Quatroking started this wiki and the forums back in 2009. Curse came around about a year later.
 * Mentioned above.
 * Think of your IP as the digital equivalent to a Social Security Number (or other non-American government identity label) with your computer representing your identity. If your IP gets into the wrong hands, your computer can be at risk. It's not as destructive as someone having your SSN, but there are people out there that can do anything they want to almost any computer. If you use your computer purely for games, Internet surfing, and other random activities, it's not that bad, but if you're the average user that accesses your bank online or you have sensitive information regarding your life saved on your computer, rampaging around on the Internet linking your IP to yourself is like displaying your SSN on the top of your house with Christmas lights.
 * 05:13, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * For more info on the wiki, see Minecraft Wiki:About. (I'm surprised no-one linked it above). –<b style=color:#282>Goandgoo</b> ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-1em>Talk Contribs Edit count 05:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I was not aware of that page lol. I guess I knew enough about Minecraft and Mojang, and already being well aware of Curse and their activities, when I came to the wiki that I didn't snoop around too much.  05:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * 2048kB equals about 2097152 bytes, so how come 1234567890Number had to create a new extension after just 440,000 bytes? -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 06:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * As I said, that is the default MediaWiki setting. This wiki must have it set lower.  06:51, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Interesting, thanks. Also, is there a way to see the total amount of bytes that have used up on this wiki? -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 07:00, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki does not have the ability to monitor its database or installation size, only page sizes. The only way for us to know is if the Curse tech team tells us. 07:28, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Regardless of the article size limit MediaWiki enforces, pages become unwieldy above around 200KB, taking too long to load and edit. There have been several complains about the length of Version history/Development versions, and that's only 272KB. -- Orthotope 08:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

My signature
How can I make my signature to this?

×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-.5em>Talk Contribs

×Meeples10× 21:44, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Special:Preferences. By default, anything in that box is placed inside a userpage link:  content of that box here   . You need to check the box labeled "Treat signature as wikitext" in order to do anything else. I also fixed your signature by trimming technically unnecessary stuff to help with size, properly closing the format tags you used, and the image was slightly too big.
 * Ahh, I just noticed you tried to make a signature subpage. If you would like to have your signature code in a page rather than that box, put the following in that box exactly how I have it here:   23:45, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I have absolutely no idea what the heck you just said. :\ ×Meeples10× 23:57, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Did you click the link I provided to your preferences page? There is also a link in the top right corner of every page that leads to your preferences. The first page you see when you get to your preferences has a signature box a little bit down the page. When you are there, re-read what I have stated.  23:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, that box! I tried entering that earlier, but it didn't work. I'll try again. ×Meeples10× 00:09, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yay! Pig.png <font face="Alergian">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 00:10, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You need to close those tags. Either use the version I edited in the beginning of this topic or add at the end of the signature box.   00:22, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Done. Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 11:11, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Font
Why is the default font now Times New Roman on some pages? <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 17:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? Sometimes, the appearance of pages vary by device. Not all devices have the same fonts installed, so the browser sometimes substitutes the font for another when the one it wants isn't installed. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 21:52, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I am using my computer.
 * I mean, that earlier on this page on this section the font was Times New Roman. It's not like that anymore. Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 23:30, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) The default font this wiki asks your browser to display is whatever you have set as a non-serif font. The font you are attempting to use in your signature is a serif font, so maybe your browser is forcing the rest of the page to display a serif font. This is just a guess though. It would help if you told us what browser you are using since it's not the wiki.  23:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That's because your signature in the previous section was missing closing tags, which made your font affect the rest of the page. -- Orthotope talk 00:14, 20 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, I thought he only posted once without closing tags earlier. I didn't see that one.  00:25, 20 May 2013 (UTC)


 * No, he did it on my user talk page too, which I corrected with this edit. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 08:02, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Template query
Hi, can you help me out with a template query?

I have been using the 'wip' template for some draft tutorials. This basically says 'please don't touch this at all, I'm working on it.' Could you tell which is the best template to use for 'this is a work in progress that needs input from other people? ' I have some tutorials on roofs, walls, and other basic construction which I want to move into the main user space, but as I do so I want to flag them as 'works in progress' but WIPs I'm asking others to help with. Thanks Simons Mith[82.69.54.207] 23:41, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * We also have WipNeedHelp with wiphelp as a shortcut.  23:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

User:Meeples10/70.181.68.226
Perhaps you know my question already, but was he allowed to do this? I know that people's userspaces are theirs, but I don't know whether this was appropriate. What do you think? Thanks. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 08:49, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, there is no wiki etiquette that states someone isn't allowed to have a copy of someone else's userspace. The whole point of a wiki is the sharing and displaying of information and it is encouraged that people learn and use from others. There are special cases though, such as a user copying a userpage into their main userpage with intent to masquerade as them, which was the case for a user last month attempting to be ultradude25. In this case with the anonymous user, that page is nothing but Meeples10 helping the user out. If he copied it to his main userpage and then altered his signature to look like the user, then it's an issue. Now, I wouldn't go around and start a collection of userpages in your userspace. That would be weird.  17:36, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Really? Who tried to copy ultradude25? Oh, and I just saw Hower63 and Hower65 in the creation log. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 07:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Some user with a decent block history. Every single edit they have made, with some being within hours of a block expiring, was vandalism.  07:47, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Wow. Morons. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 07:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, it would be really weird if someone made a collection of userpages in their userspace. It'd also be weird if someone paraded around the wiki, looking for IPs with talk pages and copying them onto their userspace so when the IPs make accounts, they could put it on the account's talk page. Now that would be unusual. --70.181.68.226 03:05, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * In that case, if you don't want that copy existing, I could delete it if you want.  03:07, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * No, you don't need to delete it. I was just thinking about how odd it would be if someone had a whole collection of those. --70.181.68.226 03:29, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

edit count
Quick question, how did you and Goandgoo get the editcount/date and edit count/total pages? I can't get it with v108. Thanks. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 09:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Did you read the documentation?  17:36, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oops. Thanks. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 07:43, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Two questions
Hi! Anyway, I have two questions for you: Thanks! -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 02:00, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) What is the wikilink cleanup you're doing with all the Crafting pages?!
 * 2) Also, what does Template:Anchor do? There's no documentation for this when I last checked.


 * I'm fixing plural links, but this time I got my hands into AWB.
 * is the exact same thing as . Multiple arguments, such as add more ids. This is a different way of creating a section link in a page without using headers. If I put  into the middle of any page, and then link to it with Page, the page will load at this anchor. You are "anchoring" links to this spot on the page.
 * 02:06, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That's what I had thought, but I was nowhere near sure. Thanks! -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 02:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Bots
How you allow a bot to make automatic edits? <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 12:53, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You'd need to have one of the bureaucrats add your account to the bot usergroup. Since there's less oversight of bots (their edits don't show up in Recent Changes by default), this is only done for trusted users. Also, you may notice from the stated purpose of existing bots that they're only used for maintenance tasks that do not significantly change the content of a page. -- Orthotope talk 20:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


 * OK... so can you please not delete/block/ban/remove/etc this? Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 23:40, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


 * First of all, why do you need a bot? Do you know what you are doing? Also, looking at the contributions of that account, a bot does not need a signature. You should never be directly editing or acting like yourself (talk page posts, etc) through the bot account. The specific purpose of a bot account is to do a considerably large amount of edits that are either tedious to do manually and/or will spam the recent changes. Even some of my plural link fixes could be better done as a bot, so I try to not do them too often. Please clearly explain the purpose of this second account on the Admin noticeboard talk page so you can request permission to have it and mark it as a bot. If permission is denied, the account will be blocked as breaking the multiple account rule.  01:12, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


 * (phone edit) Bots generally require an extensive amount of code to run correctly, and you'll need an extensive knowledge of Python, C-family, Ruby or other coding language. That's pretty tricky. –- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 05:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I give up. Block it, ban it (NOT the IP!), I don't care, as long as it doesn't affect my first account. Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 21:35, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

More questions

 * 1) What is common.css?
 * 2) What is common.js?
 * 3) Is there some possible way to apply for admin?
 * 4) Can you put a copy of Template:Entities on the bottom of User:Meeples10/Wolf? (Please do not just put , put the contents) Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 20:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I was wondering the first two questions, too. --70.181.68.226 21:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * This is your style sheet that loads on every page. MediaWiki:common.css loads for everyone.
 * This is your JavaScript page that loads on every page. MediaWiki:common.js loads for everyone.
 * Email Wynthyst.
 * 22:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * 22:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. Pig.png <font face="Cooper Black">×Meeples10× ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs 22:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
Look. I'm sorry for inserting "false information". It's just that there were a few things that I just discovered in 1.6. For example, I built a village that has villagers in it, and when it became night-time, they would quickly rush home. Quicker than they used to. Also, Iron Golems could be killed in 13 hits with an un-enchanted diamond sword (although they would still be killed in 100 hits with your fists), and will detect nearby villages and will go to them, and if they were trapped in a container, they would constantly move. Along with this, untamed wolves would have the same health as a tamed wolf, zombies/zombie pigmen would be killed in 3 hits with an un-enchanted diamond sword (although it still takes 22 hits to kill them with your fists), and if zombies/skeletons with swords were chasing a player (or zombies were chasing villagers), and a utility mob/skeleton's arrow/Ender Dragon were to hit them, then that zombie/skeleton would retaliate and fight that mob to the death. So, if you think I put in untrue stuff, I'm sorry.

--50.141.226.94 22:12, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It wasn't necessarily the info, it was adding it with no proof or explanation, and then adding it again after it was reverted also without explanation. If you find new information that's much different that what is documented, it's better to make a talk page post on the applicable article talk and have others verify your findings. Unexplained changes like that are better for typos and other minimal changes.  23:00, 29 May 2013 (UTC)