Talk:Tutorials/Programs and editors/Archive 1

TODO: Pictures.


 * Might be duplicating some content from Map editing or Custom server list, might want to double check. -- G R Y P H O N  t c 00:34, 8 September 2010 (CDT)
 * This is meant to replace the anemic Map editing page, and it already links to the custom multiplayer servers.

QUESTION:Type of License
 * Do you think we should put the type of license of the programs? For instance Minecraft Assist Utility has turned into a shareware and I think the readers should be aware of that

QUESTION: Updated Program
 * Minecraft Mod Installer has an updated version than from the link provided. While there is a link to the new version (v1.1) from the link provided here (v1.0), should we just change the link so it goes directly to the updated version?

Performance
can we have a form of performance rating for these programs?--Kizzycocoa 14:03, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I think that would be a good idea. As it is, Infdev Map Visualizer doesn't even exist anymore and Cartograph is pretty broken and development has all but stopped. Yet those are programs 1 and 3 on the list. It would make the most sense to list them by some sort of quality. Obviously I cannot participate in such rankings (not exactly impartial) but it should be done. Donkey Kong 18:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

AlphaVespucci written in what?
Written in 	C++ AlphaVespucci GUI has been written in .NET

there is no .net c++ compiler (only C# compilers) Jasen1 02:31, 11 November 2010 (CST)

attack sites on this article, but only when im not logged in.
viewing the article when i'm not logged on brings me to a page that says it's under construction, and a few links, both of which lead to attack sites. What gives?Jumpingbug 21:31, 23 November 2010 (CST)
 * That is freakin' weird. I see the same thing. I can't figure out what's cauMsing it, either. -- Toshu (talk) 03:39, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6694/deletethis214025.jpg (for a pic of the table of contents, and first section.)Jumpingbug 21:44, 23 November 2010 (CST)

Me too and i ALMOST INFECTED MY MACBOOK (on bootcamp), so fix it or ill try to hack (edit) to fix. Rabbit67890 00:27, 24 November 2010 (CST)

I tested and retested this, at first I could reproduce the attack links, and then I made an exact copy of this page and couldn't any longer. Then I asked my browser to completely refresh this page (programs and editors), and the problem went away even when I'm logged out. I'm guessing it's some caching issue. Can some of you try to restart your browser completely and see if you still see the attack links? --meioziz 00:59, 24 November 2010 (CST)

Date?
Is the date supposed to be initial release or latest release? --Patrik 14:54, 26 November 2010 (CST)
 * I'd assumed latest, as that would be a better indication of how active development is. --xolotl 17:07, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

McBooster
Is MCBooster worth it? How does it work, and does it do its job? Do I have to reset anything afterwards (on a vista) Arcticwolf15 20:54, 2 December 2010 (CST)

Platform
.NET applications should be marked as having Mac and Linux support so long it works on the desired platform with Mono installed, just like Java programs need Java installed.
 * That just confused the heck outta me. I found MineViewer halfway down the page, and downloaded it for my Mac, only to be confronted with an .EXE. Totally missed the Mono disclaimer at the top of the page: I've put it in bold to make it stand out a tad more. JaffaCakeLover 17:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Reformat
I think this page needs a serious re-format into a horizontal grid layout, cause using the templates as they are is messy looking and hard to read. With screenshots, I think they can easily go into this grid format. What do you think? --Gnu32 16:41, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I totally agree with that. Those pictures can be made to thumbnails by the wikisoftware. Actually just some simple code. - BananaJoe

Linux compatible
A whole bunch of the mapgenerator programs claim to be linux compatible.

Infact they are. With clients who installed X11 but not with servers who usually lack of packages which aren't necessary to run the server. X11 is one of those. Most people don't want to install X11 on their servers because it is a potentional security fraud while running. If a software is categorized as linux compatible, one should be able to determine if it is able to run on a usual server installation by looking into the wiki. - BananaJoe

Links have been changed
All the links to different programs websites or forum links have been changed to a youtube video. I assume someone is trying to get views. Don't know if this is the right place to report this, new here.

NPOV
Straight to the point, half of the descriptions for the list here read like advertisements. As I don't use these programs (and feel that if you're gonna mess with your game, do it right and go right into the .dats) there's no way I could provide non-biased informative edits to the descriptions. And so I ask that other editors who can write in NPOV please do so; if I have the time I might edit one or two, but I'd have to use the programs first to see how they function. Frozenne 08:42, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Version rewriting
Please include the last known numeric version that said programs work for. There are a bunch of programs that say they are for "Beta," when many of them don't actually work well with 1.3_01. They should include confirmed version builds (ie. v1.3_01) that they are compatible for.


 * We should move mappers that don't work with 1.3_01 into a discontinued category (or at least to the bottom of the list) so people stop trying to use them, since there's a hard break in compatibility here. -Donkey Kong 03:17, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright, I reordered the programs roughly based on features, popularity, and current compatibility. I imagine this could be quite controversial. All the top picks have confirmed MCRegion support now, so they'll at least work if you download them. Obviously as programs are updated or left to decay, they should move up and down the ranks. I hope we can all sort of agree. At any rate, a giant unordered list with lots of broken programs near the top really wasn't serving the interests of anyone.-Donkey Kong 03:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Minetographer can work with McRegion
What would be a good way to add a note to the "Latest Compatible Release" part of Minetographer's entry to say that while it doesn't work with McRegion as is, it can be made to work quite easily by simply replacing the Tectonicus .jar file that comes with it to the latest Tectonicus .jar file?

LennyLen 03:15, 19 March 2011 (UTC)