Talk:Dye/Archive 1

Damage Values Error
The numbers for the damage values are backwards for as far as i know. I changed them.

I believe you are mistake, now the colors are in the wrong order. Ink Sac is damage 1 Joshtronic 21:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)!

The damage values are listed as bone meal being 0 while the trivia says bone meal is 15. Someone who knows for sure which one is right please change whichever is wrong. GooBootheWarrior 17:31, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Green
Green could be crafted with slime. Eventually. Just a tought. Or leaves. Or diamonds. LOL -- –The preceding unsigned comment was added by Freaktechnik (Talk 18:18, 13 January 2011. Please sign your posts with   !

It's crafted with Cacti. Ragepyro 18:32, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I would dare say it involves the blue ore. MFahouloir 18:33, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

There are 5 "primary colors", red, yellow, blue, black, white. And since red+yellow=orange, I'd dare to say that yellow+blue=green :P Saifon 18:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

green dye is made by burning cactus in furnace tomzorz

Someone should add pictures of the dyes! :D Master Sorez

Brown?
There are some images of a brown dye up on the forums - can it be confirmed, and if it can, can somebody find the recipe?

I have seen brown dye aswell, perhaps the 15 colors added did not include the original color white ;) --Mr FJ 22:04, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Brown dye exist, is coco beans, but there isn't any way to get them except hacking damage into the any dye and setting it to 3. --Tuqui 22:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I believe that white makes up 15 dyes because bones make white.

Maybe it is a very secret dye? =D Cool12309 22:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Brown dye is cocoa beans. You can only get them from dungeons or through hacks.Ary31415 07:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Colour Dyes
I took what I think are the colour dyes and put them here. If someone could organise them into separate images for the articles that would be great.

Brown
Some evidence of the existance of brown would be nice since 15 dyes WERE ADDED.

1. Rose Red- Red 2. Dandelion Yellow- Yellow 3. Lapis Lazuli- Blue 4. Cactus Green- Green 5. Ink Sack- Black 6. Bone Meal- White 7. Orange 8. Light Grey 9. Light Blue 10. Grey 11. Pink 12. Purple 13. Cyan 14. Lime 15. Magenta 16. Cocoa Beans- Brown

A Giant picture of Dye
If anyone here would be willing, getting a large picture of one of the dyes to have as a title picture in the style of the other item pages would be appreciated. It only has to be one, fairly large, and a sample. I.E. clay-St. Fenix (User•Talk) 16:52, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I have added a giant picture and posted it on the Wool Dyes page. I hope the guide has all the information you need. If anyone needs to edit this image in the future (in case of changes or additions to the dye system), an editable file can be found here: --RedPoptarts 03:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Added one, It's even animated. --Heldplayer 17:43, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

In game pictures
I have some in game pictures of the wools in a row.

Should I add it? --Tials 16:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Nae, pretty redundant as we already have File:2011-01-13_19.26.58.png which is already in Wool (but could do with getting put in Wool Dyes too..) --Gnu32 17:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Quick problem with the Dye Crafting guide
It says Lapis yields only 1 blue dye, when it (in SSP) really gives 4-8. –The preceding unsigned comment was added by The.dibster (Talk 02:02, 27 January 2011. Please sign your posts with !
 * This appears to have been fixed, unless I'm missing something :s --Gnu32 06:51, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Palette file
I grabbed the 16 wool textures from terrain.png, averaged the colour of each 16x16 square, and exported it as a GIMP palette file. This could be useful for people wishing to do pixel art, but I don't know where to put it. (for the GIMP, save the following text as 'Minecraft_Wools.gpl' in your ~/.gimp/palettes/ directory, or ~/.gimp-2.6/palettes/, or I have no idea where this would go in a windows machine. Still, the RGB values are there.  Should probably rearrange the order to match the damage-values for the dyed wool. GIMP Palette Name: Minecraft_Wools Columns: 8  0   0   0     Index 0      Ink Sac 39  51 154     Index 1      Lapiz Lazuli 86  51  28     Index 2      Brown Dye 67  67  67     Index 3      Gray Dye 56  77  24     Index 4      Cactus Green 164  45  41     Index 5      Rose Red 129  54 196     Index 6      Purple Dye 39 117 149     Index 7      Cyan Dye 191  76 201     Index 8      Magenta Dye 104 139 212     Index 9      Light Blue Dye 234 128  55     Index 10     Orange Dye 217 131 155     Index 11     Pink Dye 59 189  48     Index 12     Lime Dye 158 166 166     Index 13     Light Gray Dye 194 181 28     Index 14     Dandelion Yellow 222 222 222    Index 15     Bone Meal

Damage Values
The damage values for the dyes start at 0 and go to 15 in this order:

"black", "red", "green", "brown", "blue", "purple", "cyan", "silver", "gray", "pink", "lime", "yellow", "lightBlue", "magenta", "orange", "white"

This has been copied directly from the decompiled ItemDye java file and has been tested with new crafting formulas. Hawky133 17:41, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

1.0 Dyed Sheep Breeding
Confirmed that dyed sheep when bred will produce dyed offspring. This means that you can get theoretically unlimited coloured wool from 2 units of dye. 109.144.195.181 16:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I have experienced this is ~usually~ the case, but sometimes I get a child sheep of a different color, not always a naturally occurring one. I think that after sheep are dyed they still have a chance to produce a child of their original color. Of course I may be crazy.98.247.62.36 09:55, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I've produced 1000+ units of wool, changing colors of my flock several times, and never got a child with a different color than parents. Maybe you could recheck that? --mgr 10:43, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The previous statement above doesn't make much sense. If one parent is a Yellow sheep and the other is Red, how can the color of the offspring be the same as both parents. Gorilla 12:05, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I just (1.4.5) experienced breeding a black and a white sheep gives a dark grey one, breeding this with a white sheep again results in a light grey lamb. I will test if this works with the other secondary/tertiary colours as well. 10.133.128.229 12:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * This is a new mechanic in 1.4; if the corresponding dyes can be combined (e.g., black and white, or red and yellow), the offspring will have a mixed color (e.g., grey or orange). If the parents are not compatible (such as orange and green), the offspring will be the same color as one of them, chosen at random. -- Orthotope 21:36, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Other uses for dyes
What if we could dye glass and wood planks? It would vastly increase the uses for dyes and open up a whole new world of creativity in building design. Harticus78

Name
Now that you can dye leather armor, should the name remain "wool dyes?" In the game, it is simply referred to as "dye." Sedrick Stevenson 04:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, now you can use these for dye armor and wolves' collars, so i think that this page should be renamed as "Dyes"--89.21.193.126 07:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

The page has been moved to dyeing BANGEXPLOSIVE 20:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Infobox title
The infobox title should read "dye" instead of "dyeing" as it describes dyes, not the actual act of dyeing itself. -- Anoymous712 10:45, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Green and Lime
Maybe we should swap the lines of Green and Lime in dye crafting guide? I've found out that Green(#667F33) in Minecraft is actually yellower than Lime(#7FCC19). The hue value of #667F33 is 53 of 240(80 of 360), while #7FCC19 is 57 of 240(86 of 360). Even I pick colors from their textures, I'll get yellower color from Green Wool than from Lime Wool. I think the order of colors in the chart should base on their actual color(hue) values, not just their names. 114.42.66.224 06:18, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Here is the sequence of color blocks, including non-dyeable ones. You can see green wool is 85 and lime wool is 115.  Exactly, green wool is yellower.  [[File:Mc_colorblock_hue.png]] Wbxshiori (talk) 15:10, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Color Codes for leather armor are wrong
Color Codes are wrong. Not the 0-15 ones of course, the 6 digit ones for leather armor. Also that section says those are used for sheep but sheep use 0-15 (just "color" tag instead of "damage"). After spending 2 hours trial and erroring I'm still no closer to figuring out true values for leather armor (but I can tell you the lowest numbers are black, with blue apparently above it aways). Also they don't seem to use A-F at all anymore (if you use letters the armor won't be dyed at all). 24.68.154.229 13:10, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok I eventually found the codes (thank you YouTubers). I didn't just trust the info of course I playtested all 16 colors. Corrected info near the bottom, although I don't know for sure the old data was wrong from a game-code point of view (just a NBZ tag point of view) so I left the old info up and specified "cheat codes and command blocks" with the new info. Alternately this could be a "new as of 1.7" thing... 24.68.154.229 14:22, 13 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The color codes on the page are correct; they can be seen in-game using the F3+H option to show detailed item information. They're displayed as hexadecimal RGB triplets, but in commands you have to use the decimal equivalent; I haven't been able to make it parse hexadecimal in any of the common forms (#667F33, 0x667F33, and 667F33h all fail). I'm not sure where your numbers come from, but they're actually a bit darker than they should be; I'll update the article later today. -- Orthotopetalk 19:28, 13 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clarifying. By all means if the shades are slightly off correct them. I got those numbers off a google search which turned up a youtube video on how to get command blocks to give you colored armor. They might just be trial and error. I'm just glad to get my ninja zombies into actual black leather armor and my sheep imitator zombie into white leather armor (see it's a sheep spawner with 3 surprises...a Grumm sheep and a sheep on fire were the other 2). 24.68.154.229 11:57, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Wool Coloring
Should all the wool be combined into one "Wool Dyeing" alternating crafting table, since stained glass and stain clay have the same? KnightMiner (talk) 01:32, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Changed. KnightMiner (talk) 20:30, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Redefinition of Primary Color dyes
Primary colors are currently defined as those that can be crafted from ingredients found from the world. This is a proposal to redefine primary color as a dye that cannot be obtained by crafting other dyes, closer to the real life definition of primary colors. The 1.7 update allowed non-primary dyes to be crafted from the new flowers. So it's basically what the pre 1.7 definition was.

Colors based on new definitions:

Primary (may not be crafted from other dyes, must be crafted from ingredients from the world)

Rose Red

Dandelion Yellow

Cactus Green

Lapis Lazuli

Bone Meal

Ink Sac

Cocoa Beans

Secondary (can be crafted with two primary dyes)

Orange Dye (Rose Red + Dandelion Yellow, or by crafting an orange tulip)

Light Blue Dye (Lapis Lazuli + Bone Meal [this is wasteful if you can find a swamp], or by crafting a blue orchid)

Pink Dye (Rose Red + Bone Meal, or by crafting a peony or pink tulip)

Cyan Dye (Cactus Green + Lapis Lazuli)

Purple Dye (Rose Red + Lapis Lazuli)

Gray Dye (Bone Meal + Ink Sac)

Lime Dye (Cactus Green + Bone Meal)

Tertiary (can be crafted with secondary dyes, or more than two primary dyes)

Magenta Dye (Rose Red + Rose Red + Lapis Lazuli + Bone Meal, or Purple Dye + Pink Dye, or by crafting a lilac or allium)

Light Gray Dye (Bone Meal + Bone Meal + Ink Sac, or Bone Meal + Gray Dye, or by crafting a white plant)

James1011R (talk) 04:52, 19 July 2014 (UTC)