Talk:Mods/Installing mods using ModLoader

Shouldn't this be under Tutorials or am I missing something here? – ultradude25 ( T at 02:34, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Putting it under tutorials would give modding a sense of legitimacy, something I wanted to avoid. I also thought of maybe putting it in the Mods space, but then, this isn't a mod, it is about mods.  --Jonnay 09:11, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't see how putting it in the mainspace make it look any less legit than putting it under tutorials.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  10:41, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hence why I glued a link to it into the Mods page under Mod Safety (at bottom). It's not exactly written as a tutorial, IMO, but has more info in it that the main Mods page, so, inserted.-Wulfenbach (not on fire for once) 11:39, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll defer to ultradude or Quatroking here. My preference however is that it shouldn't go into an easily accesable spae like tutorials.  Maybe it should go into the /Mod space, and it can be more of a "Everything Mod related" section?  Anyway, you guys figure it out, and I'll keep throwing content at it, in its new location. --Jonnay

Mods's dangerousity increased?
This pages really increase Mods's real dangerousity. Can be true about username/password stealing, but many mods won't break your world. Just say that you need to backup your worlds one time. Calinou 23:43, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


 * No. Absolutely not as long as people are taught that mods should only be installed to .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar. It's only a risk if people install mods to the Minecraft.jar which is the startup wrapper application. I believe "Some mods might claim to do something like add a cute puppy to your world, but could in fact have been authored with a malicious intent such as stealing your Minecraft username/password, or install a keylogger. You have been warned. (a good solution is to only install very popular mods. Risugami created the Modloader and other great, safe, and popular mods; and the new version made modding much more safe. Read comments on mod posts before downloading and installing)" needs to actually be removed because if people are taught how mods work (they shouldn't affect the loader) then this a pointless statement and completely a scare tactic. Why oh why is this section nothing but scare tactics? 67.182.22.160 06:18, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Very Biased Article
This page is extremely biased towards modders. "Before you begin modding your copy of minecraft it is very important to understand what you are doing and what kind of hole you will be digging yourself.", and "Modding Minecraft will break Minecraft, and make your worlds unusable. No one will be able to help you when this happens." are some examples. First off, you are not digging yourself a hole by installing mods. You're digging yourself a hole by not knowing how to install mods. Second, saying "will break Minecraft" is wrong. Mods only break Minecraft if you fail at installing them, replace "will" with "may" and it's reasonably correct. Third, "no one will be able to help you" is wrong. The modding community is glad to help anybody having problems with mods.

In conclusion, not all modders are evil like you all think. Just because Notch says that we're evil and hates us does not mean it's true. Good day. TehKrush 01:34, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I thought this article was about installing mods, not telling people multiple times that it's dangerous to install mods and unsupported before telling them that it's unsupported again. --Yourself 01:44, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * In fact, there is nothing here on how to actually install mods. I see a part on making a backup, but that's it. TehKrush 01:45, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually my bias is not against modding, it is more against people who mod their Minecraft without knowing what they are getting into, and then complain about their special world that they spent hours on is now broken. I was just trying to chase away the lightweights, maybe I went too far.  I certainly don't think Modders are evil, if I did, why would I write a page on how to install mods, or work on documenting mods on the wiki in the first place!  The only reason why There isn't more on installing mods is that I haven't had time to finish off the page.  If you would like to help, please have at it.  It is a work in progress.  --Jonnay 21:55, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

"losing your copy of Minecraft"
It says in the article: "If the prospect of losing your copy of Minecraft or your worlds scares you in any way, modding is not for you." But if the Minecraft.jar ever gets corrupted, can't you just force update or delete the version file? Each user gets unlimited downloads of the game. 16:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah but if someone steals your account, he would be able to change the password, and you wouldn't have access to SMP and Minecraft updates anymore. Worse, he may also change your skin to something ugly ^^ --Jimeowan 10:00, 11 June 2011 (UTC)