Minecraft Wiki:Gamepedia migration issues

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Have you found a problem since the migration? Have problems with your username?

Report it here

'''We will be addressing individual user merge issues next week. Sorry for the delay, but we are working on the mass problems first.'''

KNOWN ISSUES
Please read this before posting your issue
 * Broken userpages
 * Something went awry with our usermerge script. Our dev team is working on a solution. In the meantime, DO NOT edit your userpage (old or new) as this will create problems when they do try to fix it. This should be fixed on the English, Chinese, Dutch, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Spanish and Russian wikis. If you still have issues with your userpages not appearing correctly, post it on this page and it will be addressed on an individual level.


 * Broken articles
 * If you find an article that gives you the error "The database did not find the text of a page that it should have found,..." simply click on Edit and then save the page. This should fix it.



Diff wandered off?
As of a few mins ago, attempting to view any page-change diffs gets only: 504 Gateway Time-out - nginx --GufNZ (c: (talk) 04:34, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Account Migration issues
Today I received an Email from noreply@curse.com saying my account failed to automatically migrate to Curse's central system due to a naming conflict, and my account was renamed. I was told that the next time I log in I would be asked to claim an existing account or choose a new name. However, I cannot remember my password, and the password reset system says my Email Address is not in the database. It clearly IS in the database, or I wouldn't have received the Email. I also suspect that creating a new account will cause both another naming conflict and an Email Address conflict. At least it would be, if I could get past an error message when creating a new account that simply says " &lt;asirra-edit&gt; ." In fact, asirra-edit seems to be a common theme on account creation/login pages.
 * Odd. I got an email from them saying my account was merged successfully, mainly because I manually merged it as soon as it was migrated to the new Gamepedia platform. --KamranMackey (talk) 19:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately Kamran, you merged in TOO early, and it created problems. We will be working on resolving the issue starting Monday morning (Central US time). -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  05:56, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * What? I did? I didn't know that. But I'm sorry that me merging to the new platform so early caused problems. --KamranMackey (talk) 18:10, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

I used be Hawk777 on the old Minecraft wiki. Now that name is taken on Curse. In the merge form, I choose option 1, choose username or update e-mail. I enter username Hawk778 instead. I get back a message “Sorry, there was a problem merging your account into our central database. Please try again later or contact an administrator for assistance. [Error #1004 - User Merge Add]”. This message apparently doesn’t mean the username is taken, as if I choose Hawk777 instead I get a different error.

Can't log in
Primary686 here. I can't login either, but I can't even get to the login PAGE. Instead, this comes up:

The type initializer for &#39;Curse.Auth.NetworkService&#39; threw an exception. ---> There is already a listener on IP endpoint 0.0.0.0:8085. This could happen if there is another application already listening on this endpoint or if you have multiple service endpoints in your service host with the same IP endpoint but with incompatible binding configurations. ---> Only one usage of each socket address (protocol/network address/port) is normally permitted

Any help would be appreciated. ;)

--74.67.110.172 11:19, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Primary, were you able to get logged in? or are you still getting an error when you try? -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  15:01, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry for taking so long to respond, I haven't been on the site in a while. Anyway, now I can get on the login page (I do not know how I fixed it, but I did), but now it won't let me use my password. I've tried it about 5 times to no avail. I swear it's the right password, because I've been able to log on before the migration. Please help, thanks!

-Primary

Merging users
Glad to see wikies alive and running, but there is a total mess with users. Should I do something particular to merge my old account data (now renamed to Norrius) with my Curse account on the wiki? Also userpages... They all are like User123 (User:User123) now. It is going to be fixed, right? Also styles have been corrupted and autocompleting/guessing in the search isn't working anymore. Norrius (talk) 12:18, 20 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello, please try going to Special:CurseUserMerge to manually start the merge process. Btarsa (talk) 15:26, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It says The provided merge key was invalid or has expired. Please go back and log in again. I tried logging in and off, no result. Norrius (talk) 16:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, try Special:WikiAccountRecovery next then. Also, for the styles you will have to move your personal css files to User:Username/Hydra.css or User:Username/Common.css. Search is a known issue, decisions were made at a higher level than our team to switch to a new system that will take some time to build the index. Expect it to be working perfectly again soon. CRSBenjamin - (talk) [[File:User_Wynthyst_sig_icon.png]] 20:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Norrius, there seems to be some issues specific to the Russian wiki with the user merges that we need to investigate and work on resolving. Please be patient and ask your community to be patient with me as we work through this stuff (I think it has to do with the Cyrillic text but don't hold me to that). I will be putting all my attention on resolving these problems for the Russian community once I get through the issues on the English wiki. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  06:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

User merge issues
"The next time you log into Minecraft Wiki you will be asked to claim an existing Curse.com account"

It did not happen to me. How can I merge? Tiripon (talk) 13:30, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The best thing to try is to go to Special:CurseUserMerge. We had some hiccups during the merge process due to a cascading failure at our data center. If you continue to have problems, please reply and let us know and we will do our best to get you sorted out. Btarsa (talk) 15:28, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Userboxes
Becuase Userboxes are on Userpages a lot of them have been broken. some one needs to find some way to fix this.--007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 13:20, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you give me an example or two? For cases where a user has assumed a new username because of the merge, people using boxes from that user's space may have to update their links accordingly. Btarsa (talk) 15:30, 20 September 2013 (UTC)


 * It's because many users had the random number issue, where their entire userspace was moved to their name with a random number in it. Uness something can be dealt with server side, we may have to manually find the users who experienced this and move their spaces back. 18:32, 20 September 2013 (UTC)


 * This is a total bottom of the list priority. Please do not do anything until we can fix the broken userpages. Thanks. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  18:53, 20 September 2013 (UTC)


 * This issue "should" be resolved as users login and get their accounts merged with Curse accounts. We can look at the issue again after a reasonable period of time and move the userboxes to more appropriate places -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  06:50, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Century Link Problem
In German Wiki we have a lot of users with numbers in their new username. What is the best way to deal with this? -Sumpfhütte 93.214.224.42 15:57, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * These are probably accounts that did not merge correctly. Please try /Spezial:CurseUserMerge and see if that can resolve the problem. If not, maybe provide us with a clear example so we can look into it, thanks. Btarsa (talk) 16:05, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Personally I have no problem - I like to help others. Currently I'm logged in. If I try "Spezial:CurseUserMerge" (without Slash) I get this message: "Account Merge Error - The provided merge key was invalid or has expired. Please go back and log in again." Is this only working if not logged in? Would it be dangerous if I try it (because I'm already successfully merged)? 93.214.224.42 16:17, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Now several Users just moved all their pages and subpages to the old username. Is this okay or has it effects on MediaWiki-references? 93.214.224.42 16:22, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You say to TheWombatGuru: "In the meantime, please do not edit your userpage (old or new/non-existent)." Does this mean, the manual move of the own user pages from wrong (with numbers) to right (without numbers) is not okay? 93.214.224.42 16:44, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * When they will fix it, that will be causing problems I think, maybe you could copy the pages that hey have moved manually to an offline word document, so when it gets corrupted or something like that, you can just copy it back? -- TheWombatGuru   t undefinedc  NL Admin  16:46, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, its an issue that when we try to fix the problem, if there is other text on the destination page it can cause problems. Either we can work to fix it, or you can move/re-create the userpage, but not both. If you would prefer to have your user page migrated by us, please leave the "new" userpage blank. The user merge page will only work for folks who are not merged, if you have already merged sucessfully it will give you that error. CRSBenjamin - (talk) [[File:User_Wynthyst_sig_icon.png]] 16:51, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your answer and your hard work to fix this not-Curse-related problem. I understood this: you try to fix the problem for all users in all wikis automatically. Users who already recreated their old user page (the one without numbers) will be skipped by the automatic correction. Did I understand this correctly? 93.214.224.42 17:30, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Are users who already recreated their old user page (the one without numbers) just skipped by the automatic correction? 93.214.246.71 19:51, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  19:52, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Can't log in.
Ugh. I hate this account merging crap. ALWAYS a hassle. And the message I got to do it sent me to the Netherlands wiki. So, despite having changed my password it still isn't letting me log in. I got the '' message too. --24.164.3.244 16:20, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Its a hassle for us too, trust me :-) Just head on over to Special:CurseUserMerge. Let me know if you have any problems after trying that. Btarsa (talk) 16:28, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * If you are still experiencing difficulties, I need your wiki username so I can track it down. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  15:17, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki-Search doesn't work any more
In German Wiki the search-function doesn't work any more. For example, I like to see all pages which contain the word "wikipedia". The only answer is like "no result - create this page". Before the migration there was a list of all pages which contain the search-word. What can I do? 93.214.246.71 19:32, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * We are now using Sphinx search. Unfortunately, there are some issues with it, it takes a long time to build the library, but we have no option here it was a change required by people much higher in the food chain than me. There will most likely continue to be issues with the search for awhile. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  19:37, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the answer. (I know this food-chain-problems very well) . Now: does this mean I just have to wait until the library is complete? How long this may take, days, weeks? --Sumpfhütte 93.214.246.71 19:47, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Does this mean I'll just have to wait some days?? 93.214.246.71 20:27, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Pretty much. If the problems persist, we can look at forcing a rebuild, but that's not always successful. Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  20:31, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Works now. Leon ᐸ Talk Contribs -  de.Wiki Admin  08:23, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately it doesn't work. I waited three days after the "works now" rendition, because previously MediaWiki took some time to update things. And really, there is a minor effect to see. Three days ago my example-search-word "wikipedia" brought 3 results, now there are five. But before the migration I started to work on the German "commands" article and made a note that the search-word "befehl" (command) was found 62 times. I need all these results for my work. But now the search is listing only the article-page and nothing more. Search for "block": two results. For "item": one. It should be hundreds. I'll just continue patiently with waiting, but I wanted to say, the problem is not resolved. Sumpfhütte --93.214.235.26 09:44, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hopefully you can help me. As a wiki author I need a working search-function. Before the migration I noticed that the search-function didn't really show all results so I appreciate a new and better search-function. But the new search really don't work even one week after the migration. Try Special:Search, type e.g. "block" and click "Everything". The result is a page named "Block" an one additional result. One! It should be hundreds. Interesting point: at the right side of the page it says: "Result 1 of 1,616,648 for block" - strange... I waited several days because you said a library must be built. I noticed that some day more results where shown than the day before (but far not enough), and the next day... less! - strange... Do you have any information for me how this could be solved? It must not be immediately if you have more important issues, but one week after the migration I have a long list of things which I need to fix in the wiki texts - if the search would only work. Even Google shows more results than the wiki (e.g. if you google for "minecraft.gamepedia.com block") Sumpfhuette (talk) 17:00, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * We have had many issues/complaints about Sphinx Search. It's generally not as thorough as even the default search, but we have no choice. It was dictated to us to use it. That being the case we will continue to try to make it better as time allows. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  17:20, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Liked the old sidebar
I loved the old sidebar. The sidebar made the page more alive in my opinion. Do you guys think you can bring it back? :( --KamranMackey (talk) 19:50, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  19:56, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. - Smokie (talk) 20:01, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. CRSBenjamin - (talk) [[File:User_Wynthyst_sig_icon.png]] 20:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. --Kizzycocoa 21:08, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. 04:24, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. -- t  numbermaniac  c  05:42, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Itouchmasterpro (talk) 05:49, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Telshin (talk) 17:56, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Leon ᐸ Talk Contribs -  de.Wiki Admin  18:01, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No.  Meeples10 t ~ c 18:36, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No.-- 007a83 Talk 04:28, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

about the merge options
I found the merge options are little bit unclear of their function. Does the first one meant our curse username does not match our wiki username let us select the wiki username that we want to use? and we choose the second on when we want our wiki username to be the same as the curse account? —Powup333  ZH Admin  21:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You have one account now. You should be able to log in to ANY wiki on Gamepedia as Powup333 with one password. If for some reason your contributions and userpages did not merge on one or more of the Minecraft wikis, please let me know and we will address it starting Monday morning. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  05:52, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Display name problem?
Why is it that names on edit and links to userpages show like this "User1 (User:User1)". I am assuming that 'User1" is the display name and "(User:User1)" is the username. But why is it shown for people whos display name is the same as there Username?-- 007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 01:20, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * When we were instructed to offer Display names, we had to come up with the best solution we could. Since MediaWiki simply will not recognize display names properly, this was the best we could do. There's no practical way for it to only display it for people with different display names as account names.. but we are always open to alternative solutions should one of you geniuses come up with something that can be applied globally. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  02:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * When I logged into the Hearthstone Wiki a few months ago, they had the same issue, but it eventually went away. I assumed it was globally fixed as a Gamepedia issue, but apparently not. Could you get in touch with the people involved over there to see what they did? 04:27, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, I figured it out. It's in their common.css page. Mind if I toss it into ours? 04:31, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I do mind actually. Please leave the css alone until we get through all the user merge issues, and then we can revisit the issue. I'm actually getting really frustrated that NONE of you seem willing to even try any of the new features that are brought in with Gamepedia, and are all in such a rush to remove every trace of them from your personal css. LEAVE THE GLOBAL CSS ALONE. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  04:37, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I jumped the gun. Rolled it back as soon as I read your reply. Their workaround doesn't hide it, it makes it work like it should. The (User:actualname) is hidden and the display name is properly displayed. When I saw the recent changes after I put that in there, Matt's name worked, since his username is Majr. 04:43, 21 September 2013 (UTC)</tt>


 * I could easily make a script which hides the username if it is the same as the display name. However, I wonder if we actually need to show the username at all. If you hover over the link the title is set to the username. It's probably the sort of thing that needs a preference setting. –Matt ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs – 04:51, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * We've got a solution on Wowpedia you may be interested in... See MediaWiki:Gadget-name-resolve.js. More info is at Forum:Display names, and instructions on how to export/import the gadget are at Special:Gadgets/export/name-resolve. --Kaydeethree (talk) 05:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Can we please just delay this discussion until we get all the user merge issues fixed? it's not actually a "issue" of something being broken because of the migration, it's a new feature of the platform that will be up for community debate after we get the actual broken stuff fixed. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  05:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)


 * We solved the problem. Put <Pre>.dnUser { display: none; }</Pre> in your Hydra.css. If that doesn´t work try <Pre>span.dnUser { display: none; }</Pre>. This works for the personal Hydra.css, too. This solution came from an user of the german Wiki. If questions arise, you can ask de:Benutzer:CalebBlackhand--.zip de.MinecraftWiki-Admin Diskussion 16:34, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * That's fine in your personal css, but not for global css yet. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  00:11, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


 * What´s the problem with that?--.zip de.MinecraftWiki-Admin Diskussion 06:26, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


 * We are still troubleshooting user merge issues, and this is one of the things we use in that process. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  06:35, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, sorry. I didn´t know.--.zip de.MinecraftWiki-Admin Diskussion 06:41, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Issue with display name
I tried to fix my display name before manual account merge and now I can't use 'Norrius'. I get error message asserting that "that display name has already been chosen by another user", perhaps because I accidentaly assigned it to old wiki account, which is now gone... Can I please get my name back? Norrius (talk) 12:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * These are apparently individual for different wikis. I'm talking about Russian wiki. Norrius (talk) 12:58, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * This is one of several issues that appear to be specific to the Russian wiki. I am going to devote a block of time on Monday to addressing them all. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  16:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Broken minecraft font
The minecraft font is linking to hydra-media.cursecdn.com which is a different domain to the wiki. Fonts are subject to the same-origin policy, so you either need to set the Access-Control-Allow-Origin header on the CDN, or move the fonts to the minecraft.gamepedia.com domain (and also copy it to all the languages, since the same-origin policy oddly counts sub-domains as different origins). –Matt ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs – 15:33, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * We host all our custom fonts on the media CDN and this has never come up as an issue anywhere. I will pass it along to our tech team for their review. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  18:05, 21 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Before the merge the font was kept on the minecraftwiki.net domain. I assumed it was for this very reason. –Matt ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs – 18:21, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Not that I'm aware of, and let me clarify, we host all the custom fonts used on Gamepedia based wikis on the media CDN (we now have several other wikis where they are allowing custom font use... see what you guys started! lol). -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  18:27, 21 September 2013 (UTC)


 * curse.com uses a couple of custom fonts too. I blame everyone else. –Matt ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs – 18:41, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

More issues
--User_GreenStone 20:35, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) My account was merged improperly. The old account remains at Special:Contributions/GreenStone, and I could not reclaim it (tried logging in with the old username, using Special:WikiAccountRecovery, none of these worked).
 * 2) Display name seems to work only in user page display titles.
 * 3) Clicking the "Changes" tab when creating a new section displays the changes improperly. (Using the "Show changes" button below works correctly.)
 * Your account should now be User:User_GreenStone on any of the wikis. You just need to login with that name on the English Wiki, and your contributions should merge. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  16:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The account seems to be merged properly now. Display names still do not work on the Russian wiki (unlikely to be caused by local css/js there); names in histories still show as Curse account names (not DisplayName (User:CurseAccountName) like here). Another minor issue is that page sizes can no longer be viewed in histories. --GreenStone (0x54; 0x43) 17:13, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * We are working through the issues one at a time, and believe me the Russian wiki is getting looked into. I just wanted to get your username stuff fixed for you.-- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  17:37, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for getting this resolved... --GreenStone (0x54; 0x43) 18:36, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

How do I get my original username back?
I really don't need to juggle between usernames, and accounts. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Boxesandmoreboxes (talk • contribs)&#32;02:12, 22 September 2013‎&#32;(UTC). Please sign your posts with
 * Your username is based on whatever your Curse.com account is. What was your "original" username? -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  02:19, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Soundbuttons
Soundbuttons doesn't work anymore. Example: <font face="Ubuntu">Leon ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs -  de.Wiki Admin  12:40, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Works fine to me -- TheWombatGuru   <sup style="color:#00F">t undefined<sup style="color:#00F">c  NL Admin  12:50, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * There should be button instead of a link. <font face="Ubuntu">Leon ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs -  de.Wiki Admin  12:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Owh ok ;p, Then it didn't work fine to me. -- TheWombatGuru   <sup style="color:#00F">t undefined<sup style="color:#00F">c  NL Admin  15:20, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I noticed this to, I think it has something to do with a custom setting or a template that was broken during the merge.-- 007a83 Talk 15:34, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It would appear the OggHandler extension has been listed as obsolete. I will see about getting it replaced tomorrow. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  16:31, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Does it work? <font face="Ubuntu">ILeon ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs -  de.Wiki Admin  13:45, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I got these Error: Sorry, your browser either has JavaScript disabled or does not have any supported player. You can download the clip or download a player to play the clip in your browser. <font face="Ubuntu">ILeon ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs -  de.Wiki Admin  18:59, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm getting that error to. and I have verified that java is enabled. I'm Using Google Chrome.-- 007a83 Talk 23:32, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It's something in the extension itself, they guys are looking into it. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  00:04, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Something new? <font face="Ubuntu">ILeon ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs -  de.Wiki Admin  15:09, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

User page showing second newest revision after editing
Nice to see the Wiki is running. I tried to update a template on my user page. I changed the lines "| version = 1.3" to "| version = 1.3.1" and "| minecraft version = 1.6.2" to "| minecraft version = 1.6.4" near the bottom of the source of the page. When I saved the page, it still displayed the page as it was pre-edit. I pressed Edit again, and the source displayed "1.3.1" and "1.6.4" as I wanted. I did a minor change to the page again, and this time the page correctly displayed "1.3.1" and "1.6.4" from the first edit, however the latest edit was not displayed. I pressed Edit and Save, then the last edit appeared as well. It seems to me as this is a bug, I hope it can be corrected :) Bilde2910 (talk) 13:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Clear your cache or do a null edit. –Matt ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs – 14:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I used Shift+F5 (Chrome) to refresh the page several times. Shift+F5 will force a reload, ignoring cache. There was no change until I re-edited the page. Null edits work, but it's really annoying having to do one every time I want to edit a page :( Also, when I edit this issue page, the changes show up immediately, whereas on the user template I referenced, it does not. Bilde2910 (talk) 20:28, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The "hard reload" function in Chrome is Ctrl+Shift+R. 22:19, 22 September 2013 (UTC)</tt>


 * Ok. Either way it seems to work now. Thanks!


 * The bug is back, tried both F5 and Ctrl+Shift+R, changes keep not showing up. Also created a new page in Chrome, edited it (changes not showing), then opened it in Firefox, changes still not showing. This is a wiki bug. Bilde2910 (talk) 14:19, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Tag: missing signature not working
On the resent changes and the page history pages, Tag: Missing Signature is not working. I don't know if the other tags are working.-- 007a83 Talk 19:15, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * They look like they're working fine to me. –Matt ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs – 19:23, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Capitalization in Username
On the Minecraft Forums my name is in lower-case, and that's the way I like it. On this wiki, it is in upper-case for the first letter of my name. I don't know if this was intended, but could you please override it somehow to be in all lower case? Awsmazinggenius (talk) 03:50, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

This is not a Gamepedia migration issue, this is a common limitation of the wiki software. There is no way to force a lowercase first letter for usernames or articles. There is formatting code to display a lowercase first letter on your userpage, as well as your signature on talk pages, but it is just for show. 23:36, 22 September 2013 (UTC)</tt>
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I just have a feeling that this will be a problem for other users. In the next update, can you please implement this?
 * No there's nothing to implement. This is a core limitation in the MediaWiki software. It is impossible for you to have a lower case letter at the beginning of your username, or of any article (page) on this wiki. So regardless of what your personal preferences are, or anyone else's this is not something that is going to change.... unless and until the developers of MediaWiki change it (which I don't see happening). Thus this topic is going to be marked as resolved again. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  05:08, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

error on ru-minecraftwiki
After the transfer of Russian MinecraftWiki got off to a new platform login page, bringing my nickname was number 165! Prior to that, my nickname was Ivan-r. Please help. Translated service Google translate. 165 (talk) 14:12, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I granted you an account rename credit. Please log into Gamepedia.com and you will be asked to rename your account.  Google Translate: "Я предоставил вам кредитный счет переименования. Пожалуйста, войдите в Gamepedia.com и вам будет предложено переименовать свой ​​аккаунт." Azxiana (talk) 17:13, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * К сожалению это сработало только на сам сайт Gamepedia, на Curse перекинулась часть настроек, wiki (как эти, так и русские) переименование не коснулось. Думаю вы уже не сможете мне никак помочь. Буду искать путь, что бы пообщаться с представителями Gamepedia или Curse. Google translate: Unfortunately it worked only on the site itself Gamepedia, to spread Curse of the settings, wiki (as these, and Russian) name change were not affected. I think you will not be able to help me in any way. I will find a way that would speak to the representatives Gamepedia or Curse. 165 (talk) 12:43, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Ivan-r, your user name should be fixed now. Just log out of Minecraft Wiki and then log back in.  Azxiana (talk) 15:16, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Ivan-r, Azxiana IS a representative of Gamepedia and Curse.-- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  16:41, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help. Much easier than I thought - I wrote the e-mail he served under the old username, and it was necessary to enter a new login instead of writing e-mail. In general, revealed some of the nuances. The rest of you very much! (If you could write a hyphen in the login ...)- Google translate/ Ivan r (talk) 18:08, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I have this problem too. Before the transfer my name was PC Minecraft, but now my name is 16572. Please help me with my name! 16572 (talk)

Missing brackets at end of edit summaries
Taking a look at edits like this, I've noticed that the edit summaries are missing closing brackets. Only happened after the merge. -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  00:33, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Even the edit before that is the same way. -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  00:35, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * What's missing? –Matt ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs ⎜ 00:40, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.flickr.com/photos/numbermaniac/9907122244/ -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  00:59, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Browser? I can't get it to disappear no matter how much I squish it. –Matt ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs ⎜ 01:10, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * iPad 4, iOS 7, Chrome 30. Another example: http://www.flickr.com/photos/numbermaniac/9907357893/ -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  01:53, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok you guys... I have to ask... is this a serious issue that you want to waste dev time on? How much does this really matter ... to anyone.... We spent today working through all the user merge issues we had enough details to fix, and are now focusing on some of the more serious problems being experienced by the language wikis. I personally think this trivia can stop. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  03:07, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I care. I'm the kind of person who gets bothered by even minor inaccuracies. -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  03:20, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75561532/I%20beg%20to%20differ.jpg I see closing parentheses on all the summaries. I would guess this is a browser specific issue that seriously is going to get zero dev time. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  04:57, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

If you say so. -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  05:08, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is a very minor issue that will not be looked at any time soon. However, it may be fixed just by the process of upgrading to Mediawiki 1.21.x which is coming in a few months. Azxiana (talk) 14:46, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

advert problem
i noticed that the adverts on the upper right of the pages are too high and are infront of the edit and history tabs


 * For me it covers the diffs. -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  22:24, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Screenshots would help if possible. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  22:38, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * http://flickr.com/photos/numbermaniac/9924018956 -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  23:09, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I have been unable to replicate this issue. My best guess is that it's something in your personal css. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  17:37, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I took that image logged out. -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  11:49, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Userspace Empty
My entire userspace appears to have disappeared in the merge or gone somewhere else. The main page is there but all my scripts and sub pages are cleared. Can this be fixed? <font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#08088A 0.4em 0.4em 1.7em,#58ACFA -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#2E64FE"><font color="#2E64FE">Falkirks <font color="#000000">Talk  03:55, 25 September 2013 (UTC)


 * They've been moved to under your new username, User:Falkirksnh. They're all under that. -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  04:01, 25 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Whoops...will fix up the transclusions. <font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#08088A 0.4em 0.4em 1.7em,#58ACFA -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#2E64FE"><font color="#2E64FE">Falkirks <font color="#000000">Talk  04:03, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Templates not being interpreted correctly
{| class="wikitable collapsible collapsed" ! style="color: red;" | Resolved All the problems listed below regarding broken parser functions in templates, and broken reference citations: Click on "Edit" and the hit "Save" (Do a null edit). This should fix whatever is broken. Also, make sure you clear your cache (Ctrl+F5 on most browsers) before posting. Also, please provide links to the pages you are having problems with.

It seems like neither Extension:Loops nor Extension:variables are currently working/loaded. I can't get either to work in a sandbox page. Confirm? &mdash;munin &middot;  &middot; 02:04, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Special:Version reports them as being installed and presumably working. However, Extension:Loops is listed as version 0.5, with the credits including Curse; the latest public release is version 0.4 . I'd like to know what changes Curse made to this extension, as they may have broken compatibility with existing template code. -- Orthotopetalk 02:58, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I've sent a request to our dev team to get them to look into it first thing in the morning. Unfortunately, I don't see it being fixed before then. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  03:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Big problem!
Something is wrong here. <font face="Ubuntu">ILeon ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs -  de.Wiki Admin  19:30, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I just discovered there's something going on at Map it looks like the code to make the page is printed out. -- TheWombatGuru   <sup style="color:#00F">t undefined<sup style="color:#00F">c  NL Admin  19:32, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed it by saving the page without changing anything. -- TheWombatGuru   <sup style="color:#00F">t undefined<sup style="color:#00F">c  NL Admin  19:34, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * That link just crashed my graphics card! (The admin notice board one) Pokechu22 (talk) 20:28, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Griefing griefed
Griefing Tons of glitched text and weirdness. Things like this: I think that something may be broken with it. Pokechu22 (talk) 20:25, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I've seen this on some pages on the NL Wiki too. -- TheWombatGuru   <sup style="color:#00F">t undefined<sup style="color:#00F">c  NL Admin  21:03, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Cobblestone_farming
This page is showing markup instead of images and videos: Tutorials/Cobblestone_farming

Dyes Page
The dyes page seems to have some formatting issue/locating issues for the crafting recipes that it should be showing. Apart from the crafting recipes not displaying correctly the page is fine. Here's the page: Dyeing

--Firedingo (talk) 21:12, 25 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Same issue for the Wool page.

Problem with a large amount of Ajax loaded pages
I was trying to look at a schematic for a cobblestone generator, and all I got was something that looked like this: There's also a small frame that didn't fit it. Looked at a few others, and it seems that most schematics (like the various redstone circuits) are having this problem. The schematics themselves still show up when I go to edit the page, but since I'm new here I'm not sure what is what and don't want to toy with the pages.

Triple Factorial (talk) 21:29, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Enchanted Book...
The "Enchanted Book" page is broken. All the pictures are gone, and there's visible code scattered everywhere. Most of the proper text is near the bottom of the page.

Villager page is broken.
Villager page is messed up. All the HTML and coding is visible where images are meant to be.

Page looks like this:

{{#if:{{ #if: {{#pos: Villagers.gf | ; }} | | [[File:{{#if: Villagers.gif | Villagers.gif | {{#ifexist: File:{{#if:  | {{{title}}} | Villager }}.png | {{#if:  | {{{title}}} | Villager }}.png | No block image.png}} }}|{{#ifeq:  | Template || link=File:{{#if: Villagers.gif | Villagers.gif | {{#if:  | {{{title}}} | Villager }}.p


 * The only thing that's broken on that page is the sound handler. It was replaced today, but obviously there are still some bugs. I will have it looked into tomorrow.

More broken pages
The pages for Redstone Block and Music Discs are also broken, with code all around, as mentioned and shown above.

... as well as Glowtone and Nether Quartz crafting recipes (English version affected, but German version OK).

Schematics do not show on any browser. Some weird text shows instead.
Since the migration of this site, all schematics show up as the exact same rectangluar set of hyphens, dashes and slashes and some cut-off "#f" message in the middle. This renders all the very helpful pages that we had before on red stone circuits useless (note: also see nether reactor build schematic, still screwed up as of 8pm ET 9/26). I have copied and pasted the rectangular section. The paste doesn't show it the same but certainly what it shows is no schematic. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.227.32.223 (talk)&#32;22:44, 25 September 2013‎(UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * "Since the migration of this site" -- No, everything was fine after the migration occurred; this is very recent (today or yesterday).
 * I've tried doing a null edit of Schematic and cleared my cache, as described above (big red text), but that doesn't seem to have helped.
 * &mdash;munin &middot; Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Stone_Pickaxe.png &middot; 00:01, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh my, this looks bad. Seeing Munin, I tried doing the same at SchematicSprite, to no avail.  It looks like at least one critical sub-template isn't happening, or perhaps a command they depend on has gone away. --MentalMouse42 (talk) 00:07, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Possibly related: The collapsed videos (e.g., in the Iron Golem Farm tutorial) are showing up as similar garbage:

--MentalMouse42 (talk) 00:12, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I see nothing wrong with Tutorials/Iron golem farming. -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  01:40, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No, on iron golem I see this:


 * -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  01:43, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Tutorials/Iron golem farming has cleared up overnight (at least the videos there).  On Iron Golem it's specifically the "Iron Golem build configuration." panel that's broken.  Template:Schematic/examples is still broken.


 * FYI, I originally opened this issue. I confirm that by doing an edit and saving (modifying nothing), it is fixing the issue.  At least for me anyway.  You have to do it for each page, but its working. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.227.32.223 (talk)&#32;14:30, 26 September 2013‎(UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * }

Out of sync cursor in editing on Firefox
The cursor while typing in Firefox appears out of sync with the letters that appear as you type (i.e. huge spaces while holding down backspace, letters appearing before the cursor moves, etc.). This is getting annoying already and I just discovered this as I was adding a new section. GunslingerN7 (talk) 23:17, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Nether Star page is broken
Or so it looks to me. 70.100.142.189 23:49, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Crafting page
No localisation cache found for English. Please run maintenance/rebuildLocalisationCache.php.

Backtrace:


 * 1) 0 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/LocalisationCache.php(283): LocalisationCache->initLanguage('en')
 * 2) 1 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/LocalisationCache.php(218): LocalisationCache->loadItem('en', 'namespaceNames')
 * 3) 2 /home/hydra/public_html/languages/Language.php(342): LocalisationCache->getItem('en', 'namespaceNames')
 * 4) 3 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/search/SearchEngine.php(327): Language->getNamespaces
 * 5) 4 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/User.php(1323): SearchEngine::searchableNamespaces
 * 6) 5 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/User.php(2268): User::getDefaultOptions
 * 7) 6 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/context/RequestContext.php(287): User->getOption('language')
 * 8) 7 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/Message.php(296): RequestContext->getLanguage
 * 9) 8 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/context/RequestContext.php(368): Message->setContext(Object(RequestContext))
 * 10) 9 [internal function]: RequestContext->msg('pagetitle')
 * 11) 10 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/context/ContextSource.php(166): call_user_func_array(Array, Array)
 * 12) 11 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/OutputPage.php(816): ContextSource->msg('pagetitle')
 * 13) 12 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/Article.php(444): OutputPage->setPageTitle('Crafting')
 * 14) 13 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/actions/ViewAction.php(40): Article->view
 * 15) 14 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/Wiki.php(484): ViewAction->show
 * 16) 15 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/Wiki.php(278): MediaWiki->performAction(Object(Article))
 * 17) 16 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/Wiki.php(593): MediaWiki->performRequest
 * 18) 17 /home/hydra/public_html/includes/Wiki.php(503): MediaWiki->main
 * 19) 18 /home/hydra/public_html/index.php(58): MediaWiki->run
 * 20) 19 {main}

this is all it shows

Loading
Nothing Loads!!!

Automatic log in is not working
When I logged in the first time, I did not check the box for remembering my login for 30 days accidentally. Now, I wish I did do that. But, if I click the Login button, it automatically logs me in without giving me any prompt to change that. Is this intentional behavior? Pokechu22 (talk) 22:05, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, but if you want to change it, just manually log out of the wiki. That should reset your cookie, otherwise, simply clean out all your cookies, that will also fix it. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  01:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * That appears to have worked, thanks!Pokechu22 (talk)

Problem with text editor toolbar
Instead of the new toolbar the old text editor toolbar appears in the german wiki. Sometimes there is neither the old nor the new one. I didn´t find any Code in our common.css or common.js which could affect these problems. --.zip de.MinecraftWiki-Admin Diskussion 12:14, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The same happens on the Dutch Wiki, sometimes you see the old one, sometimes the new one, sometimes no toolbar at all. -- TheWombatGuru   <sup style="color:#00F">t undefined<sup style="color:#00F">c  NL Admin  13:11, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Its here to. You only see no toolbar when the old one fails to load, and I always see the old when when creating a new page.-- 007a83 Talk 14:59, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * We seem to be experiencing some intermittent caching errors. If you wish to go back to just the basic default editbar (the mass uploads will remain) you can do that in your preferenced. If the caching problem becomes more serious before Monday, I will see if I can get it looked at, otherwise it will be monday. -- Wynthyst  [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]]  talk  19:16, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

"Share your work with everyone" not going away, EVER.
I started editing a page and when I hit "save page" a pop-up appeared saying "Share your work with everyone!". When I hit "Never Again", it didn't go away, so i hit "No Thanks", still nothing, finally i hit "Done", and still nothing happened. I clicked outside that pop-up and it went away, and i was happy. now when ever I load a new page the pop-up comes back, and I click off-pop-up and it goes away, load another page, comes back. PLEASE FIX ASAP!
 * Go to "Preferences" and untick the setting at "Misc" --eagle3000 (D ~ B) 21:53, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

"Recover Account" not possible
Hi Curse team! Our user "Doktorpixel14" can't login any more in the German Wiki with his username and password. It says they are wrong. I told him to get a new password, but unfortunately the link doesn't exist. The same happens in the English Wiki: Please help. Thanks --Sumpfhuette (talk) 16:44, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The Login page is: Special:UserLogin
 * At the bottom is a line called "Forgot your Curse account password? Password Reset." If you click it, it links to Special:CursePasswordReset.
 * There appears this text: "Password resets for your Curse.com account must be done from the Curse Support site. Please visit 'Recover Account - Curse Support' to reset the password on your Curse.com account."
 * If you click on "Recover Account - Curse Support" it links to "http://support.curse.com/recover-account"
 * But this page says: "Oops. The page you were looking for doesn't exist."


 * Sorry about that. The correct account recovery link is http://www.curse.com/recover-account, and the link will be corrected on the CursePasswordReset page as well. Cathadan (talk) 17:44, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

"Random Page" Eliminated from Sidebar
Since the creation of the Minecraft Wiki website there has been a "Random Page" link.

Evidence: http://web.archive.org/web/20090621202937/http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page

It was located on the front page of the website. The link was in the sidebar towards the top.

I used this all the time... It was a good way to discover pages that you might never find otherwise... The truth is, I just enjoyed the process of randomly going to the many obscure pages that are contained on this great Minecraft resource.

I cannot believe that there is no one else who has not noticed the elimination of this link, but since I was unable to find a thread discussing this issue, I decided to post one myself.

Please give us back "Random Page"... Thanks!
 * Has nothing to do with the merge. But thats the change, which removed the link. --eagle3000 (D ~ B)


 * Apparently it was removed because it tended to pick up too many inappropriate pages -- archives, random language, other miscellany. See here for a similar idea that's under discussion. --MentalMouse42 (talk) 23:02, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Please repair the Search-function
I dont't give up asking you to repair the Wiki search function. So please don't give up too! I understood that the new search wasn't your idea, but nevertheless would it be very nice if you could HELP us. Five weeks after the migration, and we can't use the search. Is there any workaround? Do you have any idea what we can do to find all pages which contain a certain word? Current example: the german translation for the Minecraft "command block" has been changed. Now we have to adjust all pages, where this word occurs. But how could we find them? The Wiki search says: "There are 4 results" and shows NOTHING. No result appears! Apart from that there must be around 30 to 60 results! HOW CAN WE FIND THESE RESULTS??? Please help us. Sumpfhuette (talk) 18:48, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * For now, try google:
 * [//www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aminecraft-de.gamepedia.com+%22Kommandoblock%22 www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aminecraft-de.gamepedia.com+%22Kommandoblock%22]
 * &mdash;munin &middot; Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Stone_Pickaxe.png &middot; 19:07, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Same with Soundbuttons <font face="Ubuntu">ILeon ᐸ <small style="display:inline-block;line-height:1em;vertical-align:-0.4em">Talk Contribs -  de.Wiki Admin  19:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)