User talk:Kanegasi/archive3

Meeples10's Recent Vandalism
I am sorry somebody using my account did it, I didn't know they did it, but I won't do it. Meeples10 18:43, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It's all right, just be more careful with your account info and always logout of computers that aren't yours. Even if you trust someone, we only allow one person per account on the wiki.  00:22, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I just recently went over to my friend's house and asked him about this, and it was him. i got on his computer and removed my information from his computer. Meeples10 21:15, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome
Welcome to the admin team! Get yourself added to the admin list, and introduce yourself on the Director's talk page. -- Wynthyst  talk  08:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I'm really excited to help out the wiki even more.  16:49, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Wow, congrats for becoming an admin! How did you become one anyway? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 00:54, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * He showed his dedication to making the wiki better by patrolling recent changes, undoing vandalism, assisting other users by answering posted questions, and adding contributing edits over a period of time, indicating he wasn't going to just leave. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  01:10, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I guess that was fairly obvious. Well done Kanegasi! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 01:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Numbermaniac, and thanks again Wynthyst. :D  02:03, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations Kanegasi! You deserve it. :) — Hower64 02:56, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks Hower64. :D  02:58, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

"Kanegasi deleted Piston … Kanegasi restored Piston" -- wait… Kanegasi?! Oh! Look at that! Congratulations! : ) &mdash;Munin295 &middot;  &middot; 03:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Hehe, thanks.  03:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

A little bit late: Congratulations! ILeon ᐸ Diskussion Beiträge DE Admin 17:41, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, and congrats on the DE wiki promotion as well.  18:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks :) ChickenSig.png ILeon ᐸ Diskussion Beiträge DE Admin 18:26, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Talk page edit changes
When I come to edit a talk page, there's a completely new box, saying "This is 's talk page." Did you do that? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 07:48, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes. I implemented something similar to Template:Talknotice, but on all talk pages. It will display the same thing for any non-user talk page, but on user talk pages, it presents the user's name for that talk page. For the Community portal, it welcomes the editor and removes the Community portal link. Did you have feedback?  07:51, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I actually like it. Hopefully it deters people from editing pages with things that shouldn't actually be on the wiki, such as bugs. It's a great idea. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 23:56, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the feedback. :)  00:19, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

User page header box
How did you get the box at the top of your user page? In the code, I couldn't really see anything to do with that box. How? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 05:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It's transcluded from User talk:Kanegasi/msgbox. It's just a msgbox with custom colors using the same link as the "Add topic" tab at the top.  05:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Forgive me if I read it wrong, but I was referring to the big box on e top of your user page. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 06:13, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, the link list on the top left? That's at User:Kanegasi/nav. I use the includeonly and noinclude functions of wp:Transclusion. When you view the nav page directly, it only shows the lists of my pages, but when you transclude the page, it shows the navigation.  06:21, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I learn so much about wiki editing every day. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 07:37, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Instant video protection
Sorry to bug you so much, I seem to be putting a lot of posts on your talk page.

When I uploaded the video a out pistons to Piston/video, why did you instantly protect it? Why do all the videos have to be protected like that? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 02:45, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * They are protected to prevent vandalism. Once they are put up, there is no need to edit them. This is why they are put on a separate subpage instead of directly into the relevant page. Every video, even before I started on this wiki, has been protected.
 * Also, when making these video subpages, make sure to use the following code:


 * 03:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I guess I never thought of it that way. Makes sense. I didn't know about the special code either. Thanks. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 03:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Anyone can create those and keep up with the video releases and an admin will come around and protect it. I've been keeping up with most of the recent additions in the past month or so, but I haven't gone through any older ones to see if they were all accounted for, as you seem to be doing. You're doing great.  03:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks :D. I've just been going to random pages (though not through the random page link on the left) and seeing if the video is there or not. If not, I find it on google, make sure it's the correct one, and add it in! :) -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 03:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * No need to Google. Just use the search bar on mcspotlight's channel http://www.youtube.com/user/mcspotlights  03:36, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * If only I had known that before! Thanks! :D -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 03:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh wait, this is interesting. Looking at that Brick video, it seems that's on their curseentertainment channel. I thought all of those videos were on mcspotlights. Both channels are legit. They also have a CurseNetwork channel, but I believe they abandoned that one in favor of the entertainment name.  03:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

I found that interesting too. When I had searched on google (before you have me the link) I couldn't find anything about it by mcspotlights. I found one by curseentertainment, and when I watched it, it was exactly the same!-- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 04:11, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Sandbox
Howdy, Kanegasi!

How does one get to his/her user sandbox easier, and how does one select a title for it? Thanks

Mavik 21:55, 9 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think the Minecraft Wiki has user sandboxes. You could create one here, but there is no formal sandbox like Wikipedia. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 03:51, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does have a "formal" organized approach to sandboxes, but they're nothing more than specifically named userspace pages. This wiki doesn't have anything in place to navigate to any specific page in your userspace other than the common.js and common.css pages in your preferences page that comes with MediaWiki. The only way to create a page in your userspace is to go to your userpage and just type a / and the desired page name in the url, other than following Special:MyPage links, as Numbermaniac provided. You are allowed to do practically anything in your userspace, provided that applicable rules are still followed.  04:55, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry. I just gave it as one way. but that is another option, probably preferable. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 07:48, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks guys


 * Mavik 14:32, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Not vandalism
If you noticed the top of User:hotdogPi/Creeper, it says "You can edit this page". Even though the number was ridiculous, it wasn't vandalism. It's also a funny page. (I don't think the number should be that high though.) hotdogPi--t--c--QUIZ! 18:28, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh oops. I knew about your edit invites too, I just completely forgot about that. I know you have a running number on your main page lol.  18:30, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

History
Maybe it's a good idea to make a history tab on pages like mobs, like when what mob was added and really big changes to mobs? Ftwgameshd 18:53, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by a tab? Are you talking about the wiki tabs on top?  20:46, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I just meant a section like you see on almost all pages. Ftwgameshd 20:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, I get it. When mobs were added and any specific changes wouldn't fit on that article though. No sense in maintaining the same history entries on more than one page. Generic changes like AI or how all mobs act would fit there though.  21:11, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

LukiGamer in your common.css
LukiGamer is since January 2012 no admin in the German MinecraftWiki. ILeon ᐸ Talk Contribs  Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png de.minecraftWiki Admin  20:36, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The three lists of icon-adding code consists of only user rights on this wiki. He/she still has the director here, and which is also why some users were removed. I would personally like to clean up user rights, since it all looks inconsistent (like one director has admin, the case you mentioned, other language wiki users aren't marked here, and not all admins have check user).  20:50, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe ask User:Wynthyst. ChickenSig.png ILeon ᐸ Talk Contribs  Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png de.minecraftWiki Admin  20:57, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I know, but that's something a bit too much to ask for as a new admin, and it isn't a big issue.  20:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Your user page... and something else
What in the world happened to your user page with the weird font? And also that massive box with "Kanegasi" in the title?

Also, is there an easy way to add the "Rule#something:Something" kind of text at the end of an edit summary without having to type Minecraft Wiki:Wiki rules ? Thanks, -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 11:10, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * That weird font is Courier New. I just put it in the styling for my userpage stuff (it's the same font that and < tt> use). For the page titles, that's some neat code magic someone figured out for me on IRC when I was trying to change the capitalization of Mods/Apis instead of moving it to Mods/APIs, which I didn't think about doing. When I realized how this code magic could be used, I put it on all of my userpages. It's at User:Kanegasi/stuff if you want to take a look, and the way it's set, you could probably just throw onto any page and it should work.
 * For your summary thing, you can shorten it to Project:Wiki Rules or use my editsummarypresets script.  11:18, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Seriously, that looks really interesting on your stuff page. :P. I didn't recognise the font before, lol. Also, how does the nowiki self-closing tag work exactly? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 11:24, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Did I add the script right? I can't see anything different. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 11:26, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't copy the script, use the code in the script header or just copy what I have on my User:Kanegasi/common.js. For the nowiki self-closing tag, almost any tag can be self-closing, but it'll only work depending on what the tag is. In nowiki's case, it's basically like using a period to split a sentence into two. Just throw the self-closing tag anywhere in the middle of a template, wiki link, or anything that requires open and close brackets and you cancel out what they do. I even nowiki'd that nowiki.  11:29, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, what am I getting wrong here? Is it because I'm still using the default code for the preset text? Or something else? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 12:38, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Did you clear your cache after editing your common.js? You usually have to perform the special refresh twice.  12:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I think so, but nothing really happens. Does it not work on tablets...? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 12:46, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Replace that entire advisor script with the following single line:
 * mw.loader.load('https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cameltrader/Advisor.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
 * For the editsummary script, just copy what I have on my User:Kanegasi/common.js and see if that works.  13:45, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

That will make it a lot easier to read through the text. I shall do that when I get on the computer. Thanks! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 01:20, 21 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, now that 52,818 characters of code disppeared from my common.js, time to add that editsummarypresets script in. Yay! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:35, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Put the very top line of my common.js into the top of your common.js.  08:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * What does that do? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:57, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, as much as I don't understand it, that makes it work! Cool!!!! -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:58, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The delayed reaction was pretty funny, to be honest. Anyways, the two usual ways you can load a script is by using "importScript" or "mw.loader.load". "importScript" is a Javascript function that used to require manual defining in old mediawiki versions, but it's now a part of the wiki. This is typically used for calling a script straight from a page link in the same wiki. "mw.loader.load" is what you need to use when you are using a url to get a script, but it also loads the script after the page loads, which can be useful if you want to get the content of the page to load faster. The line I had you add at the top is what ultradude25 did to his .js page. It defines a "mw.loader.localLoad" variable that when given a local wiki page, it appends it into the url, uses the mw.loader.load function, and then loads the script.  09:15, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Interesting. Thanks!!
 * Actually, while I'm here, are IPs allowed to have user pages? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 09:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see why not. I'm assuming this is about that one friendly IP with a large talk page. It would be nice if they made an account, but there's no rule against an IP using their userspace, however odd that would be, especially if that's not a permanent IP like User:Simons Mith. If it turns out their ISP gives them a dynamic IP and they start moving their pages to their new IP, I say they have to get an account.  09:24, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

You mean User talk:70.181.68.226? And Simon Miths doesn't show up. Actually, now I think I get it. Maybe. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 09:28, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oops, fixed the link.  09:30, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I most definitely did not mean you could make his page. Creating another user's page is editing in their space without their permission. If they wanted a userpage, they will create it.  09:49, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I just tested. User pages fall under the "no new pages" thing for IPs. Still, you should've waited until they said ok, even though it's an IP and they really should just create an account.  09:55, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Kanegasi! I actually think I did give him permission to make my page, because I said, I'd really like to have a user page, and that I didnt know if it was allowed. So, by telling him I would like one would basically be giving him permission. Am I correct? Thanks! 70.181.68.226 11:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Plus, why should I make an account when I can make changes just as well as an IP? 70.181.68.226 12:17, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * And I did edit the Aerbunny page. I didn't edit the info itself, but I focused more on the capitalization, and deleting unnecessary sentences. You can check it out if you want. 70.181.68.226 15:33, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * First of all, this is the second time I've seen you randomly break a section header. Stupid stuff like that is called "vandalism" and will get you blocked, even if you hide vandalism in benign edits. Anyways, while some things listed don't apply on this wiki, take a look at WP:BENEFITS.  18:00, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? I don't do anything wrong on purpose. 70.181.68.226 18:37, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Playing on servers tutorial
How come you deleted the talk page for Tutorials/Playing on servers but not the actual tutorial itself? –  Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 13:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The talk page was created by an anonymous user talking about some random server experiences irrelevant to the tutorial. If there's only one contribution to a talk page like that, it's better to delete the page instead of blanking it. The reason I didn't delete the tutorial is because it's a legitimate tutorial.  13:06, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok got it. I didn't realise the content of the talk page was so irrelevant to the main article. Also thanks for the quick reply. –  Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 13:08, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit Counter
With your edit counter, is it possible to make it so that you can transclude the whole table normally as well as just the total amount of edits? In other words is it possible for me to show the table on my user page while also showing my total amount of edits in my user info box? – Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 08:08, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * No. This is a limitation of transclusion. If the page you want transcluded has any of the transcludesection code, which requires to work, nothing else will come through the transclusion. I have considered getting the script to make two pages just for this function, but haven't looked into this or considered how necessary it would be. Now that you've asked, it'll be on my to-do list. Someone on Wikipedia asked for something else and I'm still chipping away at the count accuracy issue, which is very good as it is, but my deleted edits count is still 5 off (that count is in a tooltip on the total number if you want to see yours).  08:22, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok then, I look forward to the update when the time comes! Also that's a neat feature showing the deleted edits - is my one correct? –  Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 08:27, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Your actual deleted count is 19. One of the issues I found is that counting file overwrites (which do not increment the server total) includes overwrites of deleted files. This essentially lowers your file namespace count and inflates the difference between the script's count and the server total, which is what the tooltip shows, a simple math difference. What's odd is that your count is lower. The last time you used it, was it v90?  08:51, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I just ran the counter again to make sure that I was using v90, and it still has the same problem. –  Goandgoo ᐸ  Talk  Contribs  Edit count 09:06, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I didn't expect the problem to go away, but I thought that your previous use may have used the first math I had, which was different. I'll get to the bottom of it eventually, but for now, it's close enough.  09:15, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Is there a way to show the deleted edits as its own cell, regardless of whether there is a contribution page like that? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:50, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

About that template
You deleted that page, right? I don't know how to make a navbox on all my pages without template. By the way... THATWAS THE ONLY COPY! NOW I HAVE TO MAKE IT AGAN! Meeples10 10:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Can you at least put the page back, copy the nav box onto this page, and delete the Template:Meeples10 page again? It would make me very happy. Meeples10 10:22, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Done. And to transclude a userpage, just use the full title (i.e, with "User:" in front). E.g., { {User:Meeples10/Doing Stuff with Templates}}. However, since you're transcluding the page on its parent page (User:Meeples10), you can just use { {/Doing Stuff with Templates}}. — Hower64 11:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It was not your only copy. I took into account the history of the original page at User:Meeples10/Navbox. Even though it was slightly different, you had something to go back on. I still would've helped out like Hower64 did, if I was awake, but just reminding you that you had an old copy.  18:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah... I rgot you can undo edits... Meeples10 20:10, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

editsummarypresets
In the editsummarypresets script, why do you have to make the text as "[ " + " [link]"? Why does two square brackets just not work? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 08:48, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It does work, that's the problem, we don't want it to. If it does, the script page will have those links and categories on them. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 08:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * How does it show the link on the script page? -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 09:00, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * A script page is just like any other wikipage, it's just wrapped in a pre. The links won't show up but they'll still be there, which can be seen from the whatlinkshere pages. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 09:45, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh. I see. That makes sense. Cool, thanks. -- Numbermaniac  - T  - C 09:47, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * When I got that script, I was in the "learning" stages of my edit counter script. One of the things I learned, which ultradude25 explained, was that pre-save transform parser functions don't work in a script. Pre-save transform means that you see the result of the </tt> function in the preview before saving, basically. One good example is the subst function, which upon preview, will be replaced with whatever you are substituting. Script pages count in this. When I was using the time function, I was putting it straight into the script and it would save into a date when saving my script changes instead of letting the script use it to post a date. I originally thought this included any bracket usage, so when I put my custom edit summaries together, I split everything. Then a few people started using my script. The problem with these links still counting in the MW software presented itself when 007a83 made these categories: Category:' + 'Screenshots and Category:' + 'User images. When ultradude25 deleted those, I thought my script made them lol. Turns out those two categories are being listed as wanted categories because my common.js and two other users' js pages were being listed as in those categories. That's when he suggested that I split the bracket so that the script page neither "links" nor is counted in that category. This is also why I split all brackets, so that my common.js doesn't show up in any "What links here" page.  18:07, 26 April 2013 (UTC)