Minecraft Wiki talk:Projects/Categorization

Root category and the tree
Currently, the "root" category of the wiki is. There are too many categories that start from here; what should be the "main" categories that start from the root? I think (which may go on into  and ),, ,  and  would be good ones. --Gnu32 15:53, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I propose that we start from scratch. I have listed the currently existing categories and proposed a possible reorganization to the category tree. Please look at the remaining categories on the current tree and determine how they would best fit into the new structure, if they fit at all. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png|19px ]] talk  22:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I am confused - and I am sure others are, too, because the article said "Why?" But never actually said "What?" I don't quite understand what to do. Do what you want to contact me to let me know of what to do. ~Zonty~

Categories
Well, this project has apparently been here a while, and if I'm not mistaken, it seems to have remained dormant since March. Maybe it's time for a new task? I know I just joined and don't have much say, but I rather like the new category tree that is in the main article, and perhaps now we should actually start the task of implementing it? Eearslya ( talk | contribs ) 23:43, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Some observations
I've just joined this project, in response to an issue I came across with the categories that are being processed by the HESI Project. I'll keep adding to the list below as I go, but these are some oddities I have noticed about the categorization scheme here on the Minecraft Wiki. I may just not understand the reasoning behind these decisions, or it might be that a fresh set of eyes (even older eyes like mine) will shed new light on things. So here's my list. Feel free to add to it, or to reply to specific issues I have raised. &mdash; Augur &#x2710; 18:42, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Why is a sub-category of ? There are no pages tagged as, and it only contains a sub-category for Redstone circuits. Shouldn't they be under  instead of under ? This seems to be a large area of confusion, as there are both  and  categories, both of which have Redstone circuits as a sub-category. What is going on here?
 * Here is what I understand the current tree structure to be, with respect to Redstone circuits.
 * Category confusion.png


 * Why is Sand an as well as a ?
 * Could we group the better into sub-groups, as we have with the  sub-group?
 * The case of category names needs to be standardised. Just take a look at the sub-categories of the category as an example. According to the Style Guide, "Article titles should be in sentence case, not title case, unless the phrases are proper nouns." Should this also apply to category names?
 * Could we conceivably get rid of the misnamed category? Or is that where achievements get archived?

Update project
If anyone is still interested in this project other than me, it could use an update. Currently it still advises a sort key from back when categories sorted by namespace, and it does not list much as to current tasks with the categorization. – KnightMiner  · talk 04:12, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Suggestions
As I was updating File:DataValuesBeta.png, I noticed that contain images that are not in Category:Block icons and Category:Block icons contain user images and old variants of their new versions. I suggest that Category:Block renders be merged to Category:Block icons and create a new category called Category:User block icons and Category:Old block icons. – ITechieGamertce 09:02, 10 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Pinging active members:, , and – ITechieGamertce 11:43, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

This really needs to be used more, It helps the Wiki in the long run. And I agree with you ITechie. --Tyguy9114 23:20, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Some disambiguation pages should become categories
Some of our disambiguation pages have grown beyond their original intent, and they're now lists of all topics related to the title. These pages should "help a reader find the right [wiki] article when different topics could be referred to by the same search term" (Wikipedia:MOS:DAB). Each of the list topics should be referable to as the ambiguous page title. Amethyst and Axes are perfect examples of disambiguation pages.

Pages I identified are: Plants, Brick (disambiguation), Gem, Rock, Fruit, Dessert, Explosive, Powder, Meat, Livestock, Smooth and Crop. The current apparent use of these pages is more in the spirit of category pages, which is to group topics under a common theme.

I move that we should select disambiguation pages to move or merge into category pages. We can discuss which pages to move if this passes. ——JavaRogers (talk) 01:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC) EDIT: Corrected Brick link


 * These pages should instead be set indices; WP:NOTDAB.  Nixinova   T   C   01:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I can second that, Nix, but what's your thought behind having those and not categories? (Also I love that it's "WP:NOTDAB") ——JavaRogers (talk) 01:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Don't call Nix but I like Nixinova's idea. TheGreatSpring (talk | contribs) (Tagalog translation) 02:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm so so sure about this; see WP:SHAREDNAME. Also, many of the proposed categories are unofficial and aren't really notable enough to be proper categories. Fadyblok240 (talk) 02:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC); edited 02:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I take it WP:SHAREDNAME is for Brick, Powder and Smooth? I agree those would be poor categories. I think some (like Plants) would make good categories, considering we have Category:Animal mobs. Do we prefer to table this and discuss the pages individually? ——JavaRogers (talk) 02:41, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Bump
So this discussion just kind of trailed off, and I'd like to pick it back up. I heard support for changing them from disambiguation pages, and I didn't hear support for making them categories (so let's not make them that). For the future of the pages, I have this to say:

The intro for WP:NOTDAB notes that set indeces list "items of a specific type that also share the same (or similar) name." Most of these lists don't fulfill the latter, so I propose we should make these stand-alone lists (WP:SAL) instead of set indeces. ——JavaRogers (talk) 07:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Whether SAL or set indeces, we should also rename them "List of _____s" to key the reader that these aren't proper in-game subjects. ——JavaRogers (talk) 07:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Last, I propose some technical recombining: We should remove Powder and Smooth on the basis they're stubby and not of much help. Brick (disambiguation) should become a set index called List of bricks. Dessert, Fruit, Meat, and Vegetable should be combined into a subheading-structured list called List of foods. ——JavaRogers (talk) 07:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)