Talk:Java Edition 1.17

Lock this page until Minecraft Live is over.
So, since this is a high traffic page, can you lock the page temporarily until the show ends? It's annoying to get edits you spent a long time on to get reverted because someone made an edit a millisecond before you started editing. --DiamondIoanX (talk) 16:16, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It is over now, how about unlocking it? Unbeatable1001 (talk) 13:40, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Just try your very best to prevent . Blockofnetherite Talk Contributions 17:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * . Now this page is semi-protected. Also, the show is over by now. Blockofnetherite Talk Contributions 18:22, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be a better idea to keep speculation in Caves & Cliffs and show only facts here (bug reports, maybe release date)? We don't know if it is going to be one update or split one, even for Java Edition. --Robotkoer (talk) 19:41, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * In other words, I this revision. --Robotkoer (talk) 19:51, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No speculation, not at all, anywhere.  Nixinova   T   C   20:05, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Gibberish
What on Earth does this mean? 'designed fixed by lighting fire under the pots' 111.88.15.227 18:00, 3 October 2020 (UTC) Someone fix that please. 111.88.15.227 18:01, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Could be wrong, but I believe it means you "bake" the clay pot to make it keep its pattern. Did not watch though, have just been spamming f5 on the wiki ;) 108.193.129.103 18:06, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Links to timestamps on the Minecraft Live stream
This is a list of links to the Minecraft Live stream, where some C&C features are shown. WIP


 * 31:28- Name announced.
 * 36:04- Lush Cave Footage
 * 37:58- Concept Art
 * 39:25- Dripleaf Plant Demonstration
 * 40:24 Improved Cave Generation
 * 42:10 Still
 * 42:47 Dripstone Caves
 * 43:33 Concept Art
 * 44:34 Sculk Growths, Sensor (Redstone Component)
 * 45:13 Demonstration, with Wool Occlution.
 * 46:03 Demonstration, for (even more) Wireless Redstone.
 * 47:51 Warden. (And yes, that's 13HP of damage with full Netherite.)
 * For those curious, that thing survived 4 Fully Charged (all crits, ), 3 Partially Charged Bow shots (guesstimate ), 1 70%, 2 10% and 2 100% Netherite Sword swings (guesstimate . This means he has at least
 * 51:15 Concept Art (yes, that's a scared Rabbit.)
 * 54:10 Goats
 * 54:40 Better Mountain Gen

  <\intermission>
 * 1:03:32 Model Mob Vote Mobs. Might be interesting?
 * 1:40:59 Demonstration of BE Scripts, by the method of Tomato.
 * 1:43:51 And now, via the method of PvE
 * 1:45:08 Sorry, your Golden Skull is locked. Try again later.
 * 1:47:07 Via the method of Parkour.


 * 1:55:02 Amethyst Geodes (Confirmed Rare)
 * 1:57:11 Telescope (Needs Crystals)
 * 1:57:47 Copper Ore (in clusters of veins, even!)
 * 1:58:01 Copper Slabs
 * 1:59:54 Copper Patina Timelapse
 * 2:01:13 Lighting Rod (Attracts Lighting)
 * 2:03:04 Bundles (Arbitrary-type, 1 Stack Backpacks)
 * 2:08:01 Archeology (Wait, is that per-layer gravel?)
 * 2:09:46 Clay Pots
 * 2:12:00 Axoloths
 * 2:06:45 In the Workshop. (?)
 * 2:13:44 Concept Art
 * 2:14:08 Mob Mentality
 * 2:15:27 Concept Art: Axoloth and Warden.
 * 2:15:58 Concept Art: Axoloth, Goat and Warden.

Here are some other miscelaneous links of interest.


 * Minecraft Live: The Recap from Minecraft.net
 * Minecraft Live: Vote For the Next Mob from Minecraft.net. Might be useful for guessing some GlowSquid mechanics.

-FavoritoHJS (talk) 18:26, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Confirmed as 1.17?
I watched most of Minecraft Live but I don't remember them confirming that Caves & Cliffs will be 1.17 specifically. It seems like a long time to go with no interim minor update like they usually do.

--Tiffnix (talk) 18:44, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, well, this can happen. For example, 1.13 was meant to be Technical Update and 1.14 Update Aquatic. And they end up merging. Nobody knew, and one day, they said it is merging and that's it. So, it is yes, unconfirmed, but most of time, next update is annouced at Minecon (Or Minecraft Live nowadays) . --TreeIsLife (talk) 18:48, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it's confirmed to be 1.17. They aren't going to talk about the whole 1.18 update at a 1.17 event. I know the technical update was merged, but that doesn't mean every single update after that will be merged. I do realize they brought up the mountain stuff last year, but that's because that was a vote. And that's also why I said, "The whole 1.18." Jens or Agnes said that whatever wins will be added to the next update (1.17) as well. FrozenDoctor (talk) 12:46, 8 October 2020 (UTC)Connor

Caves & Cliffs has explicitly been confirmed to be the next update, aka 1.17:  Nixinova   T   C   02:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Discuss
See MCT:CP

Stalactite Typo
I have no idea how to fix the typo, but in the first bullet point it should say new not news

Chamylla (talk) 00:34, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Fixed James Haydon (talk) 01:47, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

new ore
in the trivia it says the addition of copper was the first ore added since 2012, but is netherite not an ore?
 * No, they meant Real World ores, netherite does not exist in the real world. James Haydon (talk) 21:53, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Warden width
Warden is 1 or less blocks wide, but the page does not have this info.