Talk:The End

New End - Minecraft 1.9 Update
This page could be updated because there's some features announced for Minecraft 1.9 f.e. "Chorus" fruit, End Gateway, Ressurecting from dead Ender Dragon, PC is more like consoles and New endless End with dungeons and Shulkers –Preceding unsigned comment was added by EmeraldPlay (talk • contribs) at 23:18, 07 July 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * Although it could be updated indeed, we'll have to wait for a snapshot to be released which contains these features in order for them to be added. We might not have to wait long though. BDJP (t 00:26, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Repetious Info
Information in the Overview section and the "End-affected materials" section contains near-duplicate information. To make the page cleaner, at least on these info has to go. But which one? -EatingSilencerforBreakfast (talk) 15:16, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Naturally created section
Are the end portal, bedrock, and the dragon egg really naturally created? The dragon doesn't have any way to die naturally in the end. The dragon does not:
 * drown because it automatically destroys water
 * suffocate--I know because the dragon loses its target when damaged, and it doesn't lose you as a target when flying through the island.
 * take fall damage because it flies
 * take blast damage because there are no explosions in the End unless an ender crystal is destroyed, and ender crystals do not get destroyed by the dragon
 * take lightning damage because there is no weather in the End
 * take fire damage because it is immune to fire, besides there's no fire in the End
 * take cactus damage because it destroys cacti and there aren't any in the End anyway
 * take lava damage because it is immune to fire, besides there's no lava in the End
 * take attack damage because Endermen, the only other mob in the End are not naturally hostile to it
 * take void damage because it always targets an area around 0,0 and well above the void when there is no player

Therefore there is absolutely no way for the dragon to naturally die. Thus, should not the End portal, bedrock, and dragon egg be removed from the list of naturally created blocks? AwesomeMan31415926 (profile|contribs) 22:59, 24 August 2015 (UTC)


 * While a player is needed to kill the dragon, the blocks making up the portal are placed automatically, without any player interaction, so it qualifies as 'naturally created'. -- Orthotopetalk 23:53, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The player can defeat the Ender Dragon indirectly using snow golems and/or withers, which can (though are unlikely to do so) enter the end portal without assistance. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Blobs2 (talk • contribs) at 2:29, 25 August 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * Unfortunately, the ender dragon only takes damage from players (not including splash potions) and explosions, so snow golems will do no damage and the wither hardly does any at all. - Sonicwave ( talk &#124; c )  20:16, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Withers and snowgolems do not exist without the player building them, and all naturally spawned mobs are not hostile to the Ender Dragon unless accidentally attacked (and sometimes, like with pigs, not even then). Also, the end portal block (the black block that fills in the end portal structure) is still not created until the dragon dies. And even though yes in the newer snapshots bedrock (and the egg? IDK about that one) is there before the dragon's death, it's naturally *generated*, not *created*. AwesomeMan31415926 (profile|contribs) 09:53, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Brewing Stand
The wiki says that the brewing stand cannot be obtained no matter what, this is wrong! Jerryzhu2004 (talk) 12:54, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, it means that the brewing stand block cannot be obtained, which is true. It doesn't mean that the brewing stand item cannot be obtained. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 19:09, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that helped me a lot! Jerryzhu2004 (talk) 06:04, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

"Third and final"
Should "The End is the third and final dimension" be changed to just "The End is a dimension"? I think it should, since the player doesn't necessarily have to go to the Nether to get to the End:


 * The player could join a server that has the End portal open already
 * The world's spawn could have been set to the End (if that's possible)
 * The player could be given eyes of Ender (or its crafting materials) to use on the portal
 * The player could be in creative mode and could just give themselves eyes of Ender

―HalfOfAKebab (talk, contribs) 17:17, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


 * "Third and final" has its reasons... I think "third" refers to the End's data value being marked 1 (compared with Overworld 0 and Nether -1); also it's the latest dimension to be implemented into the game. "Final" refers to the fact that End is indeed the final dimension a player can and should go, according to the common play style and the advancements tree. As for should the wording be changed or not, I've no idea ：/    ——JackAlpha26 (talk) 18:03, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Then should the Nether's article be changed to match this, calling it the second dimension? Or would it be 0th, since it's internally recognised as dimension -1? :P
 * ―HalfOfAKebab (talk, contribs) 18:04, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ―HalfOfAKebab (talk, contribs) 18:04, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


 * It seems just like a matter of finding something to fill in as a valid description. Just calling it "dimension" doesn't give a briefing; some numerical stuff can at least give some more implications and create a good-looking sentence. And on the other side the Nether already has "hell-like" as an adjective. Maybe someone else can check out your question and give better answers ——JackAlpha26 (talk) 18:18, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's true. If we say, maybe, "The End is a dark, empty dimension, accessed via the End portal found in a stronghold", it would work?
 * ―HalfOfAKebab (talk, contribs) 18:22, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ―HalfOfAKebab (talk, contribs) 18:22, 30 April 2017 (UTC)