Talk:Planned versions

bedrock 1.4
the update update quatic is tne 1.4 pls create a central page Xgui5 (talk) 10:08, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Update Aquatic was 1.13. Also not trying to be mean but please try to spell better. Villagers are not ugly (talk) 20:15, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

The update Aquatic
This update is coming to Bedrock :) Xgui5 (talk) 11:18, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, it came (now when I realised this, it shocked me) 6, 7 or 8 months ago, and I clearly remember talking about it with my freind (one month before part 1 came to java, which is 9 or 10 months ago) as if it was 1 hour ago! Jbailey11322 (talk) 02:27, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Just question
For The update Aquatic on console i# coming or not ? Xgui5 (talk) 12:27, 30 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Legacy Console Edition don't have named updates, their version names differ from each version, such as TU, CU and others. It is confirmed that Legacy Console Edition should be getting more ocean content in the future. Reference: Skylord wars (talk) 12:56, 30 April 2018 (UTC)


 * If you mean Bedrock, it is comfirmed. See Update Aquatic. Skylord wars (talk) 12:56, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks you Xgui5 (talk) 21:37, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

aquatic wasnt on xbox one edition. it hasnt been updated for a while Jbailey11322 (talk) 03:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

1.15 and 1.16
There aren’t any sources from mojang directly what the updates will be about, only a french tweet by aypierremc; and it doesn’t say anything about those versions specifically (only that one of the 2 will revisit combat), and the wiki says nothing about them at all; so why are they mentioned? FVbico (talk) 05:15, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, in my opinion, if no information about these two updates is known, then they really aren't worth mentioning here. 46.132.184.9 17:20, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * also agree, the "information" provided is a long winded way of saying 7 is after 6. Untill any scrap of real information is known it should be removed --64.130.167.234 02:24, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I’d like one more opinion before I remove these, anyone? FVbico (talk) 13:20, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Support removal. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 17:03, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Me too. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 17:04, 11 September 2018 (UTC)


 * It's not from Mojang directly, isn't very specific or clear, and doesn't include much of info. I'd say merge the headings of 1.15 and 1.16 into something like "Further ahead", keep it in one short phrase, and list all the sources in one group at the end of the sentence. Something along the lines of " ". Because it is still related information albeit very little, but isn't sourced well enough to warrant specific planned version numbers. – Jack McKalling [ Book and Quill.png Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 19:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and changed it to my suggestion above, seeing nobody opposed to it for almost a month. – Jack McKalling [ Book and Quill.png Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 08:48, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Also posted a suggestion to fix this on the main page as well in this editcopy edit. – Jack McKalling [ Book and Quill.png Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 09:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe change the heading to "other future plans"? Reposting my messages from Discord:
 * &gt; Maybe "other future plans"?
 * &gt; TexUpdate and 1.14 are also "future plans", no?
 * &lt;...&gt;
 * &gt; And "further ahead" would imply some sort of known ordering of these updates and greater determinism on their release...
 * --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 09:11, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

hey guys! i have a folder of stuff that proves that there is something to be added and it could be added in one of these updates. theyll come when i have an account. --173.180.201.172 02:26, 14 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Jeb said in a tweet they would announce stuff at MineconTravelbytrain (talk) 19:52, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Bedrock Dedicated Server
I found this project on the bug tracker 79.222.153.250 17:11, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Bedrock 1.8 and 1.9
1.8 and 1.9 Village and pillage phase 1 to Phase 2 Therealtomcatgame (talk) 23:02, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

1.8 village and pillage Phase 1 and 1.9 Village and pillage Phase 2 is coming on December 2018 and is coming on Early 2019 Therealtomcatgame (talk) 23:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC)


 * In matters like this, involving official update names and release dates, we only publish information from an official source. Do you have one? If not, it's just speculation. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 23:05, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

I have one version which is 1.9 Village And Pillage Phase 2 Therealtomcatgame (talk) 23:12, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * What are you even saying lol. – Nixinova  23:14, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

1.11
1.11 should have its own page now, and you should mention it will probably add illager patrols, raids, the wither rose, and foxes.73.208.227.101 00:12, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It hasn't actually been confirmed what will be added but the page will surely be created quite soon after the first beta comes out. – Nixinova Nixinova sig image 1.png Nixinova sig image 2.png 00:14, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The beta is out now.73.208.227.101 22:23, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * No, the current beta is still 1.10.0.4. If you're a Marketplace creator or other advance tester, you might have an early 1.11 beta, but it isn't publicly available yet. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 14:46, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * This type of beta is known as "private betas". -- HaydenBobMutthew ( talk, contribs ) 14:50, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah your right I just saw something on the illager patrol page (the thing I saw is now removed) and thought it was out sorry.73.208.227.101 23:17, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Somehow that vandalism remained there for a couple of days.– Nixinova Nixinova sig image 1.png Nixinova sig image 2.png 03:23, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

is this for bedrock? Jbailey11322 (talk) 03:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. Java Edition 1.11 came out in late 2016, from memory. – Nixinova Nixinova sig image 1.png Nixinova sig image 2.png 03:23, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


 * By the way, your edits suggest you might be confusing the wiki, and specifically its talk pages, with a Minecraft discussion forum. That's not what it is: It's an encyclopedia about the game, and the talk pages are for talking about work that needs to be done to its articles. (The comments you responded to above [edit: at the top of the page] were written by other people with the same misunderstanding. They would normally have been removed, but I guess nobody bothered.) If you're looking for game discussion, the big banner box at the top of the page has some links for sites where you can do that. You won't find any secret plans here that they don't know about. (In fact, you'll probably find less of it here, because we don't allow guesswork in our articles.) Of course, you're also welcome to help out here by editing the articles. If you'd like to do that, I recommend starting at the Welcome page. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 03:44, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Bedrock Edition 1.12.0 has theme?
sounds like error for me 180.190.51.87 11:23, 11 May 2019 (UTC) Please!!!180.190.51.87 22:14, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * It doesn't have an official theme like Village & Pillage or something, it's just vaguely themed around mapmaking and customisation. – Nixinova Nixinova sig1.png Nixinova sig2.png 22:17, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

1.14.2 pre-1
A pre-release for 1.14.2 was just released. Time to make a new page for 1.14.2. 194.207.105.165 19:38, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

“Further Ahead” section for Java Edition
Since these features are not part of a specific version, we should transfer them to the Java Edition mentioned features page. The BlobsPaper.png 17:51, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Mentioned features is more for stuff mentioned 5 years ago offhandedly. This stuff, however, is in development. See my discussion below for whether this should be split off. – Nixinova Nixinova sig1.png Nixinova sig2.png 01:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Actually, no, mentioned features is any feature that does not have an specific version stated, The Blobs is correct. This page is only supposed to list updates that are confirmed (hence, "Planned versions", not "Planned features") as otherwise it becomes a huge speculation target. If you are not certain the feature is in the next update it does not belong here – KnightMiner  t/c 05:02, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Recreate upcoming features with the non-version-specific info on here
This page is getting a bit cluttered with "Upcoming feature" information like the entire "Further ahead" section and the bottom half of the Bedrock section. Should upcoming features be remade with this information, explained in detail? – Nixinova   00:20, 12 July 2019 (UTC) retracted 21:05, 12 July 2019 (UTC)


 * This page was never designed to explain updates in detail, the idea was this just contains a summary of updates with links to their own articles. If there is not enough information for an article, it only belongs on the version's mentioned features article.
 * Personally, I also want to avoid using the title "upcoming features" entirely, that just ends up getting cluttered with a combination of mentioned features and planned features, hence the reason for the current names. If anything, go for planned features, but I still think the best way to reduce the clutter is to separate planned versions to their own article if they have enough information, or mentioned features if not. – KnightMiner  t/c 05:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Assumptions about 1.15
[ The 19w35a article] implies that the only features of 1.15 will be bees and bug fixes. If this is the case, then Mojang was indeed careful about their wording about the smithing and fletching tables being in the "next major themed update", which may instead be 1.16. And if this is the case, Minecon may announce 1.16 features instead. It hasn't been explicitly stated that everything in the 1.15 will indeed be for 1.15; instead a valid assumption was made that 1.15 would be a full feature update but according to the article this may not be the case. How should we organise the 1.15 section and coverage of 1.15/1.16 content?  Nixinova  T  C  03:32, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I saw a Youtube video where he interpreted “bugs” as also meaning “insects”. I am not providing a link, since it is not a reliable source, but it is possible that 1.15 will include features besides bees. The BlobsPaper.png 04:16, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Maybe Mojang is splitting the next major update into two updates, similar to how Bedrock Edition had parts 1 and 2 for Update Aquatic. 67.197.235.137 13:01, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Java Edition doesn't go down that route. Java updates are usually 2 or 3 themes condensed into one, unlike bedrock's 0.5 themes per update.  Nixinova  T</b> </b> C</b> </b> 20:09, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see your point, but that means it hasn't gone down that route yet, maybe they will do it sometime. 67.197.235.137 23:33, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I"d say move it to the "mentioned features" section or whatever it was called. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 02:47, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If Mojang did mean insects when they said "bugs", then termites, currently listed in the Mentioned features page, could be a 1.15 feature. Therefore, the page can include features that may or may not be in the next update. The BlobsPaper.png 04:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * [<I style=color:#00a>citation needed</I>]  Nixinova</b> </b> T</b> </b> C</b> </b> 04:56, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I've moved the fletching/smithing tables to the mentioned features page. Should the "theme may be announced at MINECON" text remain?  Nixinova</b> </b> T</b> </b> C</b> </b> 04:56, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that the text saying the "theme may be announced at MINECON" should stay there. 67.197.235.137 17:03, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

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1.16 - Nether Update (most likely)
Since the page is protected from being created, can someone unprotect so we can start adding things to it? --Marioprotvi (talk) 18:21, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Mojang haven't decided which 1.15 or 1.16 version will be Nether Update yet That's why we need wait for confirmation by Mojang developer before adding article.--Ellaflowercutie (talk) 18:41, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * 1.16 is confirmed to be the Nether Update. Here's a tweet from one of the devs, and a reddit post from an r/Minecraft mod as proof. Kienan (talk • contribs) 19:08, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

1.17
According to https://twitter.com/MiaLem_n/status/1178017664909881344, mountains will be updated in an update after 1.16. Can this be added? 172.126.16.173 12:15, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * That doesn't specifically say 1.17, just A update after it, can also be 1.20. FVbico (talk) 12:21, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Java cave game 1.15
ok, I'm a serious og fan ik its called Minecraft now but I'm used to cave game. so I herd that 1.15 is coming out with new mobs and swords. I found that the new swords are going to be annoying based off the snapshots there's going to be long swords and short swords, same with axes, tridents, bows, crossbows, practically anything. and the mobs are going to be more "biomes" according to Microsoft. like a shroom chick and golden cow. like What? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.254.80.125 (talk) at 23:33, 02 November 2019 (UTC). Please sign your posts with
 * Neither of those are Java 1.15. The sword changes are the update to combat; see Java Edition Combat Tests. The new mobs are part of Minecraft Earth. Java 1.15 adds bees, as does Bedrock 1.14. The BlobsPaper.png 23:39, 2 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I know I’m a year late to this, but I feel like it’s worth calling out the fact that their referral to MC as “Cave Game” because they’re a “serious og fan” is completely ridiculous. Notch only referred to it as “Cave Game” for around a week at the very beginning of its development, and anyone who was a fan during the earliest parts of development would still call it Minecraft, as that became the title VERY early on (mid-may 2009). In all likelihood, the person who originally posted this thread only became aware of the name “cave game” by looking at a wiki page. 24.30.68.172 (talk) 03:33, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Bedrock combat changes?
Jeb said that he would be changing combat for bedrock and java...so shouldnt their be a oage? 20saldir (talk) 21:27, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This page is only for updates with development versions; bedrock combat changes should go on Bedrock Edition mentioned features <b style=background:#0800aa;padding:2px> <b style=color:white>Nixinova</b> </b><b style=background:#006eff;padding:2px> <b style=color:white>T</b> </b><b style=background:#00a1ff;padding:2px> <b style=color:white>C</b> </b> 21:31, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Q3
Can someone change it to June 23? —98.230.115.82 19:02, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Piglin Brutes
So I tried to do a reference but I’m unsure how. If anyone could do it for me that would mean a lot. Was not trying to be annoying I apologize. Robbyb3ll4s (talk) 02:35, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You create a reference using . There is a way to use the same reference several times, but that is a little more advanced.
 * Also, if you are unsure how certain markup works, try viewing the source of a page that uses it. The BlobsPaper.png 06:25, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * However, information about planned features should go on Java Edition mentioned features. <b style="border:1px solid #0800aa"> Nixinova </b> <b style="border:1px solid #06f"> T </b> <b style="border:1px solid #0af"> C </b>  07:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

rtx beta
can someone add this? i know i can do it but like i'm not sure about how it should be worded and there isnt much context either unlike the java edition combat tests where they said for example, it would be released when its 'Good enough' So can someone add it as it has development versions. Humiebees (talk) 21:09, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I think that makes sense, since the combat changes in Java Edition are included in this page. The BlobsPaper.png 16:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Java 1.16.2 has a confirmed release date now
Can someone change 1.16.2 to say August 4 as the release date. For Java Edition as Bedrock is still unconfirmed for some reason. 213.205.192.82 14:24, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You need a link to confirm this release date. You can't just guess. The BlobsPaper.png 18:54, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

It changed it back to unknown release date. Just in case it changes back I made a link. 213.205.196.229 16:14, 3 August 2020 (UTC) Also the link is where 1.16.2 is 213.205.196.229 16:17, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

1.17 (again)
First bugs for 1.17 have been fixed, and for the first time, the developers have acknowledged that the next version will be 1.17 - is that enough to add it here and create a new page? Source: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-190896?jql=project%20%3D%20MC%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%22Future%20Version%20-%201.17%2B%22 Galaxy_2Alex (talk) 12:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Look closely at the bug reports. The fix versions are 1.17+, which basically just means they will be fixed eventually. There is not enough information about the update. The BlobsPaper.png 18:57, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have this page that gathers as much info as possible.---HumiebeeDiscuss anything with me Look at my edits 19:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

1.17 release date
Hi, on the article it says: "1.17 is an upcoming update with no set release date", but the developers have confirmed that 1.17 will be released on mid-2021, so can you add that to the article?
 * Well it still has no set release date so......---HumiebeeDiscuss anything with me Look at my edits 01:53, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Which basically means that they did not say specific date, only the season and a year, so it basically means that it's mid-2021, so we won't see release date for a while, you're welcome, also it's my first edit/talk. --Charge Minecraft (talk) 16:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Include MC Dungeons perhaps?
Minecraft Dungeons often have mechanics and features revealed to be upcoming by the developers with help articles released beforehand and videos. Would also allow the tag hyperlink to be applicable to dungeons pages. The version numbering would, however, be quite broad (ie: 1.8). Raybeano99 (talk) 14:26, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean, we don't know the dungeons version number until release, and its not like MCD has snapshots for it anyways, only numbered updates. We would have to assume what the version number would be, but that isn't always accurate. Don't forget that dungeons may not last as long as minecraft since it is a spinoff game and not as popular. James Haydon (talk) 16:32, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It will probably stick to the minecraft franchise, if they discontinue MCD, Mojang will recieve a ton of backlash (almost as much as if they discontinued )Humiebeetalk contribs 16:03, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * per above. BDJP (t 00:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Bedrock combat changes (again)
There has been more than one instance of documenting a plan to port or adapt the Java combat changes to Bedrock, followed by reversion of the same. Personally, I'm not invested either way, but since it's controversial, I think there should either be a citation of some kind on the paragraph or it should be removed. Dhranios claimed this plan was stated in an "official livestream". Why not link to it then? — Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 14:12, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Because I don't want to bother searching archives, I have other things to do too. I was in those livestreams myself and it was made very clear by Helen (at the time still at Mojang) that the resulting combat would be applied to both editions. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 16:18, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Since when is "I don't want to bother" a justification for throwing verifiability out the window and quashing consensus building? But nobody said it had to be you anyway. Gamma Eaglit made the edit adding the section and should have cited a reference at that time. — Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 16:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It is not, I told you it's in the combat steams; there's several hours of footage from those alone, and I simply do not have the time to find the right timestamp(s), you can do that too (I provided where you can find the info, you can check it too). I don't have that much time to spend on that single minor thing, that I know for a fact is true. I can even ask Helen to verify that for me still, but you'll simply disregard that as "not a Mojang employee, not a source", despite her having been a Mojang employee who has answered numerous questions from the community truthfully. "But nobody said it had to be you anyway." You were heavily implying I had to with your message "Dhranios stated this Why not link it?". Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 16:46, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Looking in the past of this talk page, nixinova made a good point I forgot. But yes, even they confirmed it was comming from both editions, so you're basically just asking for a source of something that was already proven (granted that reference is a dead link now). Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 16:50, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Dhranios@undefined You are the one adding unsourced content to the wiki. Therefore you are the one responsible for finding a source. You don't feel like bothering watching several hours of footage? Don't add the content then. You claim there is another source that is easy to find? Add it. You don't get to add content then expect others to verify it for you. If it really is proven finding proof should not be hard. KnightMiner (t/c) 16:52, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Again, I do not have the time to do that, it was proven in the past with a reference included and I was only reverting the incorrect undo, I didn't add that text myself. I never add any info to the wiki that I do NOT know is true, you should know that by now, I have made 0 vandalistic/false information edits in the past.
 * I'm leaving now, as your (plural) behavior is rather infuriating me. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 16:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't understand how you, an administrator on this wiki, can fail to understand that (1) citations are required for verifiability of controversial facts, (2) being an administrator and/or ingratiating yourself with Mojangsters does not qualify you as an authoritative source or exempt you from proving your statements, and (3) telling another editor to fix your half-baked edits because you're too important to do it yourself is unbelievably rude.
 * Moreover, the factual status of Bedrock combat changes is irrelevant; I stipulate them because I remember the stream and what Helen said myself. What's at issue isn't the facts, it's the absence of a citation where one is required. (By the way, I also have had access to Helen for several years—even before you did if I'm not mistaken—but that doesn't grant either of us any special stature, it's just a flex. And there's a very good reason we can't use Helen as a source on current plans any more: She wouldn't have knowledge of any change of plans that might have happened. You already understand that perfectly well, or you should. For that matter, weren't those streams like 2–3 years ago? How do we know the plans haven't changed since then?)
 * Finally, "You were heavily implying"? I did no such thing, and I don't accept responsibility for what you choose to infer. You've been defensive from your first reply, for no reason. This is unbecoming of any editor, especially an administrator. — Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 18:02, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * If we add combat changes, we need to add BE flattening, biome updates, and anything else in Mentioned features that is major. Also, none of these are in development versions or have had extensive coverage unlike JE combat (dev versions) or BE 1.17 (extensive coverage).Humiebeetalk contribs 23:16, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This. The source argument is irrelevant as that's not the purpose of this page. <b style="border:1px solid #10a"> Nixinova </b> <b style="border:1px solid #06f"> T </b> <b style="border:1px solid #0af"> C </b></b>  23:41, 9 April 2021 (UTC)