Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard

Freeing up Version template
For: ... I'm going to make copied versions: ... to free up that whole thing from its cascade restriction – the same idea as previously with ItemSprite, discussed in this topic.
 * Module:Version/Numbers, Module:Version and Version
 * Module:Version front page/Numbers, Module:Version front page and Version front page

It won't solve the issue with people clamoring for someone to update the front page, but it will help for updating Minecraft, Pocket Edition, Console Edition and Minecraft launcher (and probably a few others). – Sealbudsman talk/contr 15:19, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * As an alternative to having two near-identical templates that have to be kept in sync, we could change the main page to directors-only protection. -- Orthotopetalk 17:59, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * We could do that. We could also eliminate the front-page-template entirely by embedding the respective variables in the front page, I think. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 19:16, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Because the front page was late being updated, I was researching how it worked when I ran across your updated Template:Version doc saying it wasn't used on the front page...yet it very clearly was in use there. Color me confused! I almost put a note on Majr's talk page in case it was by accident. So I'm guessing I caught it while you were in the middle of coordinated changes. If so, could you please leave a note here to say when you've completed it? Thanks! – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 18:41, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I forgot to mention: The front page still shows 1.1 in the Planned Versions table. I'm not sure who needs to update that. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 18:44, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh my, sorry for the confusion. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 19:16, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure adding a separate template for that is a good idea given it is for the most part only used on the front page, and the other few places tend to be fine waiting a bit for the update. The front page gets the most questions waiting for the update anyways.
 * I think removing the cascading protection is a decent option, though an extra close watch on main page templates would have to be kept. – KnightMiner  · (t) 22:06, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Directly on the page are: Version, FrontPageLink, Minecraft Wiki/edition and Minecraft Wiki/style.
 * Protection cascades further to: Module:Version, Module:Version/Numbers, Module:FrontPageSprite, Module:FrontPageSprite/IDs.
 * If cascade was removed, we could heighten permission on Template:FrontPageLink, module:FrontPageSprite and /IDs, and /edition and /style, and I think that's all. Then only other thing to keep track of would be Template:Version, Module:Version and Module:Version/Numbers. –  Sealbudsman talk/contr 22:29, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Would a good idea be semi-protecting the remainder? From what I've seen so far here anonymous users don't make good edits to templates often, if they even get to them. --Hubry (talk) 22:37, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I doubt that creating a duplicate template for the front page will solve anything because most users who complain about updating the version numbers complain only because the version numbers on the front page aren't updated. And Module:Version front page/Numbers still would need to be edited by admins. | violine1101(Talk) 08:30, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Ideas so far:

To allow more people to update the versions on the front page, we could:
 * change the protection to directors.

And if we want to free up the Version template, instead of using a duplicate template, we could do one of two things:
 * remove cascade from the main page, raise the protections on other transcludes and semi-protect the version template, or
 * hard-code the variables in the page. (rendering the Version template mostly redundant)

Any thoughts? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 15:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * We could have an edit copy for the template, which would be semi-protected and used on the edit copy for the main page. The BlobsPaper.png 03:27, 5 June 2017 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, the only place where the current version numbers are actually used are the Edition pages (Minecraft, Pocket Edition, Console Edition etc). Using hard-coded variables would make the template pretty much redundant, wouldn't it? | violine1101(Talk) 09:39, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Bump. | violine1101(Talk) 18:32, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe you are right about that. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 18:50, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

hmu on twitter @kopshtik if you believe in white power
Some guy is going around different computers and replacing pages with hmu on twitter @kopshtik if you believe in white power. Can someone please block this message from passing submission filters? – Nixinova •   • 05:59, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

CPU-intensive ads
Can we do something about the ads on the Wiki? Currently, the Minecraft Wiki imposes a heavier processor load than the Minecraft game itself! 108.254.144.254 20:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Try contacting Curse; admins do not control the advertising. The BlobsPaper.png 01:11, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed. --Qwerty6811 (talk) 17:46, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

1.12
Someone needs to change the current version on the main page to 1.12, because it came out today. I don't have admin privileges so I can't.

Oakstar519 12:27, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Rule 2. --Pepijn (talk) 14:24, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The user has been doing vandalism even after multiple blocks. An indefinite block should probably be used. The BlobsPaper.png 23:16, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Handled by Orthotope. --Pepijn (talk) 23:47, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Blobs2, please remember that indefblocking an IP address is considered a bad tone because this action, if the address is not static (which means the user isn't switching addresses after each connection), may cause other innocent people to be under the block. Unfortunately, it isn't possible to predict which IP address will be used by a malicious user next time. &mdash; NickTheRed37 (talk) 12:57, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Beam > Mixer
The "Links" section on the left side of this wiki has the Beam account of Minecraft listed. Recently Beam was renamed to Mixer, so it should probably be updated. --Pepijn (talk) 20:59, 9 June 2017 (UTC)


 * . 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:24, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Excessive vandalism. --Pepijn (talk) 16:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Handled by Orthotope. --Pepijn (talk) 20:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Abuse Filter Issue
I attempted to edit Tutorials/Setting up a server to remove information on and the section relating to Evolve (the VPN), as Evolve ceased operations on June 1, 2017, according to their website EvolveHQ. However, I was blocked from removing the section by an edit filter barring new users from removing a section. Seeing that I am not allowed, could one of you remove the information please? Thank you. 1234Iloveguns (talk) 20:17, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * . --Pepijn (talk) 20:22, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Image cacheing
Can anything be done about the image caching taking the better part of a day to refresh? It seems to me that when you upload a new version of a file, that should be propagated out to all caches, but this doesn't happen. Is the length of time we wait totally necessary? Thanks for consideration, – Sealbudsman talk/contr 21:04, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Or maybe there a way to purge an image's cache, that I am missing? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 21:25, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Does mw:Manual:Purge work? -- Orthotopetalk 22:35, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, no. They work in virtually every situation I can think of apart from this, though. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 15:47, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


 * It's cached by cloudflare, so we're stuck with it. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 04:24, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Hmph. Ok, I'm reading about it more, and the situation is acknowledged in MediaWiki's CloudFlare manual at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CloudFlare#HTTP_purge, and reported at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64356: MediaWiki cannot purge single assets cached in CloudFlare. Booooo. –  Sealbudsman talk/contr 15:47, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I wonder if Curse would be willing to throw resources behind getting T64356 straightened out and getting single-file-purge working for cloudflare. It's an open source project after all? And it affects all of Gamepedia. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 15:56, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Please protect cake
Excessive vandalism, particularly people always adding some meme where it's made of diamonds – Sealbudsman talk/contr 14:35, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it's safe now to go ahead and remove the protection... Could you please do so? VeenM64 (talk) 23:22, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The page has been vandalized at least 10 separate times just this year, counting just those vandalisms that meme about diamonds and bedrock and emeralds, alone... The page is a target. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 01:05, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Are you mimicking me with that "..."? VeenM64 (talk) 23:08, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I do that all the time. – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 04:58, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

and also blocked because of block on user
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

Your IP address has been automatically blocked because it was used by another user, who was blocked by Orthotope. The reason given is:

Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Noobsonlyforyou".

The reason given for Noobsonlyforyou's block is "Rule #2: Vandalism"

Start of block: 13:54, 8 July 2017

Expiration of block: 13:54, 12 July 2017

Intended blockee: 54.87.181.129

You may contact or one of the other administrators to discuss the block.

Note that you may not use the "email this user" feature unless you have a valid email address registered in your user preferences and you have not been blocked from using it.

Your current IP address is 54.87.181.129, and the block ID is #17120. Please include all above details in any queries you make.

– Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:51, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Sun Cat wanted me to pass this along. It was surprising that blocking one editor would block another as well? – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:51, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I've had that issue too earlier. It was really weird because my IP address is completely different and I'm in a completely different part of the world than what IP lookup sites give me.
 * Anyways, tell him to log out of Gamepedia and delete all Gamepedia cookies (MCW cookies might be enough, but I've cleared all of them) - I've done that and that fixed it for me. --Hubry(talk) 18:42, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * In their case, it didn't work : ( thanks though – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 18:53, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Some users are sent over an Amazon proxy to reduce page load time, which also changes their ip adress to that proxy. This should only happen for mobile users though, but it sometimes also happens for desktop users. (See also Minecraft Wiki talk:Community portal) | violine1101(Talk) 20:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that, wasn't expecting the autoblock to hit other users as well. Should be fixed now. -- Orthotopetalk 20:28, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Sun Cat (talk) 20:35, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Very nice thanks. One last question: the above message says the block expires July 6. Yet the user was given a 1 month block on July 5? Weird? – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 20:36, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Autoblocks only last 24 hours; this is to minimize the chances of affecting other users if the originally blocked user is on a dynamic IP address. -- Orthotopetalk 21:03, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Restore Fern.png
A few days ago File:Fern.png was deleted under the premise of it being an unused file. You may not have known, but that image was the only static image available for ferns. Therefore I kindly request that you restore that unfortunate file. VeenM64 (talk) 23:39, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Orthotopetalk 00:01, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Bots not showing as bots
Bots such as are not showing up as bots in edit logs and Special:RecentChanges, aka b is not showing next to the edit which means "Show/hide bots" does nothing at all. Can someone tag bots as bots? – Nixinova   04:27, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Bots don't get flagged as such automatically, and if no one requests a bot flag for them, chances are they'll go without. I've flagged Ffbot; if there are others which need the flag, please list them here and I'll flag them as well (this goes for the future as well). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:22, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * (Also note that the bot flag doesn't apply retroactively: while future edits will be flagged as bot edits, edits which were made before the flag was added are still considered non-bot edits.) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:23, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Actually I have applied for the bot tag, while Majr rejected that.-- Ff98sha (talk) 05:53, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * While he can (and should) correct me if I'm misinterpreting his intent, my reading of your request and the subsequent discussion was that the refusal was about having your bot do extra tasks, rather than having it flagged as a bot. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:39, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Also, if the request was rejected to get the bot right, the correct thing to do would be to not make contributions using the bot instead of making them without the tag. I cannot imagine any reason why he would want your bot to operate without the bot tag.
 * What exactly is the bots purpose anyways? Most of the contributions I have seen are useless whitespace changes or other tweaks that do not affect the final rendered page. Both of these things are normally fine to do as general fixes while performing other actions but are rather pointless on their own. – KnightMiner  · (t) 00:02, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

https: removal
Okay, what the heck is happening? Why are all the https:'s getting removed? – Nixinova   19:40, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * See here, here and here. | violine1101(Talk) 21:19, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Translation redirect cleanup
A lot of translation redirects need deletion. See here. – Nixinova   04:35, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


 * . –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 06:10, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Account merge
I recently discovered my old account User:HeroBrineNZK. There is about a year's gap between the last edit on there and the first edit on this account. Is there a way to merge the accounts? – Nixinova   04:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Same here, with my old account User:LRGuanzon. I was not able to log in to my old account due to a Curse account error. Any ways to merge our accounts? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– <span class="gamepedia_pro_user" style="font-weight:700">Dentedharp90041 tc 09:16, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Only Curse can merge accounts. Game widow, what do you think on this? —  NickTheRed37</b> (talk | RU) 07:12, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * All you need to do is submit a support ticket to Gamepedia. (Why hasn't anybody mentioned this yet?) VeenM64 (talk) 19:40, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– <span class="gamepedia_pro_user" style="font-weight:700">Dentedharp90041 tc 15:10, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

New Language Persian
Requesting new Language section, Persian (fa - فارسی) Habedi (talk) 09:01, 23 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello. The Persian (Farsi) translation project did exist before, but has been deleted by Majr (the main administrator of Minecraft Wiki) on July 9 as part of the recent cleanup of translation projects. You need to consult this question with him, but basically what you need is to translate the main page to Persian, and that’s the only requirement so far. Once the main page is translated, a brand new wiki can be opened. —  NickTheRed37</b> (talk | RU) 16:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Hungarian Wiki
Nearly a month ago, Emberbot changed the Hungarian wiki's main page that only admins can edit it. It does not matter if you have an active admin on the wiki. But because there are no, so there are only foreign admins can change it.

Can anyone change that anyone can edit it? Don't worry for vandalism, because there are few who edit (unfortunately) --GDK555 (talk) 19:19, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

youtu.be banned
When I went to edit my userpage, I got the following edit message when submitting it: <pre style="font-family: sans-serif; background-color: lightcyan;"> • The text you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to a blacklisted external site.

• The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be • The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be/59EHuVsXYWc • The following text is what triggered our spam filter: youtu.be/mA8jsYzpcFQ For some reason, youtu.be links are blacklisted, when youtube.com links aren't. Why is this? – Nixinova   05:05, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Almost every URL shortener is prohibited here, as there is no reason to use them. Saving a couple of characters does not make any significant difference, and they hide the true destination of links. -- Orthotopetalk 10:36, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Can youtu.be in particular be reconsidered? From what I'm aware, youtu.be never links to anything except a YouTube video, and the part after the slash is the video ID - the same ID used by the full link. Even if it is not unblocked, it is YouTube's default method of sharing a link to a YouTube video, so it will continue to cause confusion. If it isn't removed from the spam filter, then can the spam filter warning be changed to explain that URL shorteners are blocked, and maybe link to this noticeboard or elsewhere with the reasoning and how to get the full URL? NickNackGus (talk) 03:51, 3 September 2017 (UTC)


 * While I will agree its Youtube's default method of sharing, we really have no reason to make an exception here, especially since it just adds one more way to link the videos which will certainly cause a disagreement over consistency in the future. If needed, you can always type video ID if the fewer characters are so important. – KnightMiner  · (t) 19:03, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

HTTPS Interwiki conversation
Recently, Gamepedia made all of their wikis HTTPS for all users. So for this reason, I request that Gamepedia interwikis be updated: ftb, gphelp, and all of the language-specific versions of the Minecraft Wikis. Thanks. -Xbony2 (talk) 11:15, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * All the gamepedia interwikis are already https. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 11:19, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Err, according to Special:Interwiki, the URL used for "ftb" is "//ftb.gamepedia.com/$1" (and the others in the same situation). It should be changed to "https://ftb.gamepedia.com/$1", for consistency if anything else. -Xbony2 (talk) 19:46, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Links with no protocol specified will use the same protocol as the current page. ftb:FTB_Wiki uses an https link for me. -- Orthotopetalk 21:50, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * It's still rather silly that it's registered in an obscure way that none of the other wikis are registered like :P having no protocol specified is nonstandard and unconventional as far as interwikis go, unless they have to, which they did temporarily. -Xbony2 (talk) 22:28, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Rule 2 @ Mooshroom. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– <span class="gamepedia_pro_user" style="font-weight:700">Dentedharp90041 tc 15:05, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Gamepedia migration issues
Requesting sysop-level protection of the Gamepedia migration issues page. With the transition to Gamepedia being made about 4 years ago, this page became something like an archive. Thanks in advance. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 16:16, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Adding confirmation tweet to 1.13 page
I noticed Badprenum share a tweet from Dinnerbone on the forums about the upcoming change in block metadata. Because the 1.13 wiki page only contained a quote from Grumm dated from March about him working on it I concluded that this specific (more recent) confirmation about the removal of block data values would be useful. The system decided otherwise & blocked me based on a keyword. I was trying to add the following reference to the Block metadata section: ShelLuser (talk) 16:15, 7 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Added. The Reddit link in the previous reference triggers the abuse filter for any new users. Shouldn't affect you in the future, given the number of edits you now have. -- Orthotopetalk 21:44, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Appreciate the quick feedback; it really motivates. - ShelLuser (talk) 22:19, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

IP addresses are spamming the pages
I recommend that the rule #2 should pop up when an IP address will try to edit a page, or similar. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– <span class="gamepedia_pro_user" style="font-weight:700">Dentedharp90041 tc 09:33, 8 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Do you suggest installing a new abuse filter in order to make an IP address think thrice before editing? —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 10:46, 8 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, as it could reduce the spam of IP addresses. I also suggest that the "Save page" button will be disabled unless "Show preview" or "Show changes" is clicked so they won't continuously edit pages if they made an error in their edits, thus, making them think another time to really reduce spam. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tc 10:55, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Hungarian admin request
I returned to edit the Hungarian Minecraft Wiki again. Since I was inactive for 1.5 years, so I suggest an another person get admin rights to avoid inactivation. I selected User:GDK555 for this, because he is the most active Hungarian editor who makes useful edits. Martin200005 (talk) 16:27, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Delete subpages of old account
Can someone please delete all the subpages of my old account at User:LRGuanzon? That account has been merged to my current account. Thanks in advance! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">

Dentedharp90041tc 17:44, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

CSS fixes
Please change  in MediaWiki:Hydra.css to   since the 1.29 upgrade seems to have changed the sidebar's html structure, as well as the spacing between the portals (collapsible lists) in the sidebar. The spacing can be undone by adding margin-top: 0px !important; } to Hydra.css. (I'm not sure whether the  is really needed, it probably will work without as well.) If this change is made, please also change this on the other Minecraft wikis, especially the ones that don't have any active admins. | violine1101(Talk) 13:23, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) mw-panel h3 {
 * Wait, Special:Diff/1135779 seems to have caused this, and this edit was done after the upgrade. Am I missing something? | violine1101(Talk) 13:28, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, it was added as a result of the upgrade. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 13:30, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I noticed that, but because of it, the portals dividers disappeared. Or are they there for you? | violine1101(Talk) 13:49, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The dividers looks fine. There were two before, which is why the selector was changed. If you're using the collapsible portal extension, the borders were removed. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 00:41, 12 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Why? | violine1101(Talk) 08:18, 12 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I dunno, ask the developer. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 09:32, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Replacing admins
, havent edited in 4 years,  and hasn't in 6. Isn't it time to replace them? – Nixinova   21:18, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * And has not edited for three years. The BlobsPaper.png 21:54, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The current activity of four administrators (Majr, Orthotope, Goandgoo and Dinoguy1000, although the latter went missing for 4 days except yesterday) doesn’t pose any problems. But, if a new admin is ever required, I would directly go for assigning KnightMiner as the most fitting user for this role.
 * And, for the sake of interest, I will say how Russian wiki has solved the problem of inactive admins in the last 3.5 years (if you’re not interested, skip this paragraph). In the last 2013, most of the Russian administration’s veteran members (led by HEKP0H) practically disappeared, leaving only one administrator with somewhat stable activity (that is AttemptToCallNil, then still known as GreenStone). Four admins experienced some periodic activity since then (SYSanin235, Shahter40, Bloodhit and Atributz, and also Norrius, a former admin who was resigned in 2013 by his own request); they all went inactive, with the exception of Atributz, who returned in early 2015 and, after some inactivity, in recent months. Ivan-r was appointed via his own request by Wynthyst in December 2013 (apparently when AttemptToCallNil went inactive for a short time), right now he is periodically active. AttemptToCallNil was later granted bureaucrat rights in July 2014. After Ivan-r, four new administrators were appointed by the new bureaucrat: Asassin 1 (January 2015), BloodCaster (January 2017, after a two-year hiatus; both on my suggestion) and, on last July, Dand0 and me. Last month AttemptToCallNil initiated an unusual procedure: he chose eight candidates (one was later discarded immediately as an unreliable one) for administrator status, and opened votes for them. The result was appointment of the two last administrators. And now, at <s title="Corrected by author on 14:41, 14 August 2017 (UTC)">four five continuously active and two partially active administrators, Russian administration is probably the largest on Minecraft Wiki.
 * Anyway, back to the English wiki. The wiki’s policy states that

"Administrative rights are given to users based on them making exceptional contributions to the wiki, rather than by request. An exception is on other languages of the Minecraft Wiki which have few or no admins, in which case a request is likely to be accepted."

- Minecraft Wiki:Directors


 * This point of view is far from being implemented practically. By this point of view, KnightMiner should be already appointed an administrator by Majr or Dinoguy1000 without any request, but he isn’t, and any request for appointing KnightMiner would be rejected based on this policy, even if he is a good candidate for this. Also, the last administrator was appointed on April 2014 (that was Goandgoo), which makes the current administration seem a little bit old, unlike the Russian wiki’s administration, which has four new members assigned since that period, with one in 2015 and, after two years, a record number of three in 2017.
 * In short: I’m neutral on this topic, but leaning towards appointing KnightMiner, and also changing the policy. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:51, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Side note: I'm surprised how many inactive admins on the Russian wiki actually still have their rights. On the German wiki, an admin is asked to retire if they are inactive for a few months. (See here. The actual founders of the wiki still have their rights, and Oliver Scholz is still involved with the wiki although he doesn't edit regularily.) Also,

"and Dinoguy1000, although the latter went missing for 4 days except yesterday"

- BabylonAS


 * What's wrong with being away for four days? | violine1101(Talk) 15:22, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Nothing is wrong. It is unusual to be active every day.
 * BabylonAS@undefined I would support giving administrative rights to . The BlobsPaper.png 16:33, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I would hardly describe my inactivity as "going missing"; I can still be reached via my talk page here, email, or on Discord for those who want to look me up there. Other than that, I make no particular effort to maintain any particular level of activity here, both because generally I only edit when I notice something needs fixed or want to reply in a discussion, and because I have to fight with internet connectivity issues on my laptop that make wiki editing far more of a pain than it should be.
 * I've stated in the past that I have no problem with promoting users to admin by community request, in spite of the guidance on MCW:Directors, since that guidance is quite old (though of course, Gamepedia staff would have final say on whether that policy should still be enforced, and I'd abide by their decision in that case). Similarly I wouldn't be opposed to demoting inactive admins after a suitable period of time (I'd default to one year with no edits or log actions performed), assuming notice has been given to the editor and a week or so provided for them to view and respond if they wish. In both cases all that's required is to ping me to ensure I see the discussion.
 * Lastly, if is interested in the admin position, I'll promote him; I certainly have no objections to that recommendation myself. 「 ディノ 奴  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 11:30, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I have no issue with KnightMiner being an admin. I do have an issue with pointlessly appointing admins when they aren't needed. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 13:35, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * But, judging by Special:ActiveUsers, KnightMiner has only made 15 edits in 30 days (with only 5 edits in August). Other viable candidates, as I see, may be Sealbudsman or BDJP007301 (I personally lean to the former). LauraFi may be also a good candidate (and, if appointed, would be the first female administrator in a long time, if ever) but she only has made seven edits in this entire year (exempting a happy birthday message on [ my profile]), so I won’t push her candidature too much right now. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:54, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Edit count is and should never be the only criterion. Also, why do we need more admins in the first place? | violine1101(Talk) 15:52, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * While I wouldn't decline admin, I don't think I would do much with it if it were given to me. My personal life has gotten much more busy lately. See my edit history, I've definitely had to slow way down. – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:34, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not entirely sure we need more administrators as well. Sure, we have several inactive admins, but that has been the case for awhile without the current ones being overwhelmed to my knowledge. I don't see the need of appointing admins simply to have more admins at this current time. Instead, I'd focus on if a user frequently makes contributions that would benefit from those rights.
 * On the topic of me being an administrator, while I would not be opposed to being appointed and I have had uses for the rights in the past, I am not sure how beneficial it would be at this moment. Most of what I'd do with the rights is technical stuff which is pretty well covered by Majr or Dinoguy already, both of whom are a bit more active than I am as well. – KnightMiner  · (t) 23:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree with KnightMiner, we don't need more admins. – LauraFi - talk  01:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Mojang flair for User:Johanaronson
Hello! HelenAngel confirms that user:Johanaronson is the real Johan Aronson (Lead Pixel Designer) from Mojang (Special:Diff/1137758). Can he get the Mojang flair? – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 18:30, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * . 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:46, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Unused redirect
All those broken redirects also unused (verified by me). May anybody delete it? — RDmitriyS (talk) 20:01, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Main Page style issues
The Main Page, on mobile view, looks like the page in desktop view, thus overflowing the page. This issue was caused by the MediaWiki upgrade, I guess. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">Dentedharp90041tce 09:31, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, the update removed the mf IDs, so the mobile site was getting the full desktop page. Also, fix the wikitext in your signature. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 11:07, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Fixed :) <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 13:16, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * In mobile view, the sidebar items aren't categorized. They are a bit messy.  a20001017 Talk 11:12, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

issues with responsive style at small sizes
Not sure what to call it - it's not the mobile style, but the normal looking style, scaled to mobile size. I noticed these issues on Firefox on mobile, but haven't checked other browsers.

Issue #1 -

The Gamepedia bar is half-overlapping the search bar. Makes the search bar finicky to use. It's been that way for a while, not specific to this MW upgrade.

Issue #2 -

The "Share" tab is raised up out of place. I don't necessarily care about that, it just looks funny.

Issue #3 -

The "Talk" tab often gets covered up by all the other tabs on the right. It appears that stuff is supposed to collapse into the "More" tab when the screen is small, but this isn't preventing Talk from getting hidden. That's also been happening for a long time.

– Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 12:43, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Navboxes in mobile view
With the new update, navboxes become completely invisible on the mobile view, not just when transcluded, but also on the template page. Can an admin fix this? The BlobsPaper.png 14:33, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Could you please create Church as a redirect to Village structures?
Page is protected from creation, that's why I'm asking. VeenM64 (talk) 22:56, 17 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Reduced protection level. Not sure how necessary this redirect is, since I can't find it used in any of the game files, but we have similar ones for most of the other buildings. -- Orthotopetalk 00:33, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Please be more specific: What were you unable to find? VeenM64 (talk) 01:09, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I meant that I don't see the term 'church' used in the game anywhere. Some structures are named in various game files (such as the loot table for the village blacksmith), but this one does not seem to have an 'official' name. -- Orthotopetalk 03:09, 2 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I created the page. The BlobsPaper.png 01:36, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Protect the style guide
As a response to this act of vandalism on the style guide, I request an autoconfirmed-level protection of that critical guideline page. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 08:06, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Have there been many frequent attacks, or was it just that one? The BlobsPaper.png 14:19, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


 * There have been quite a few over the last couple of years. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 05:45, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

127.0.0.1
Somehow 127.0.0.1 is its own unique IP address? This shouldn't happen. Special:Contributions/127.0.0.1 – Nixinova   21:47, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess an anonymous user of where this server is hosted has edited in this wiki. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 10:01, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Also check User talk:127.0.0.1 and wikipedia:User:127.0.0.1 for more info. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 10:04, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

in 1.13,command of execute
somebody just forget in /execute store,and this turely exist in References Meifray (talk) 23:09, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The source was edited, I will update the page. --Pepijn (talk) 23:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

About /tickingarea

 * I am an anonymous user from Chinese Minecraft Wiki.

Could you please add the descripsion of into Command page？--123.15.129.9 09:55, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * In fact, your account can be used in ALL Gamepedia projects. There's no need to be ashame of logging in here.  a20001017 Talk 12:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I think the user meant they do not have an account, but sometimes edited the Chinese Minecraft Wiki anonymously. -Xbony2 (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 13:39, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * , you are free to create an account. :) <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 13:49, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * But I heard that create a Gamepedia account must support by identifying code of ReCaptcha.But now, this serve isn't available in our country because of the policy and law of our government.--123.15.129.9 02:56, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Also,the latest release of Pocket Edition was 1.1.6,but the English Wiki doesn't have the information of this version whether main page.

Recursive spam @ Commands & undoing my undos. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 04:20, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes please! 49.199.64.83@undefined THERE IS NO TROLLING COMMAND!! STOP. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 04:23, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 *  WARNING : The same anonymous user with similar IP has come back to spam our pages again! (source) <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 05:55, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Small edit war over Pocket Edition 1.1.6
There seems to be a minor edit war developing over whether there is a Pocket Edition 1.1.6 update. In an exchange I had with user, he reported that this update number was used in a special Store panel (picture) shown only to Chinese users. (The notice reportedly informs them that they will not receive the 1.2 or later updates in China.) This is apparently the notice mentioned in the August 17 Content Update changelog, which carries no update version number. I'm told the 1.1.6 version number does not appear on the main menu in China and there doesn't seem to be any evidence of it in the usual authoritative sources. Certain users have attempted to create a page for 1.1.6 and link it into the version chain, while other users have attempted to undo the link and mark the page for deletion. As a result, these pages are pingponging without discussion toward reaching a consensus.

The main problem is the August 17 Content Update changelog. It has no version number because it only updates Marketplace items; there was no change to the game. Someone said this was made possible by the 1.1.5 update making the Marketplace content purely data-driven, specifically so that new Marketplace offerings could be released between game updates. We haven't seen a purely content update before and therefore have no consensus on how—or even whether—to document it in the wiki. I think it's likely these updates will happen very frequently, so documenting them would be a burdensome task. Not only that, it would be uncomfortably close to advertising since these are content products being sold by third parties. I believe it would be helpful for the admins to weigh in on this question, and that it would put an end to the budding edit war. --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 09:03, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * A lil' suggestion: Move the page to Pocket Edition August 17, 2017 or similar, since the update has no specific version number. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 09:11, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Or better yet, move all Marketplace content (that was not added with a version update) to the Marketplace page, like what has been done on the Realms page. -BDJP (t 13:43, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Section removal
There is a section removal on Reactor Core, I can't remove it myself--66.50.161.108 21:08, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Done apparently. -Xbony2 (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 22:20, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:Sprites broke
They all broke. Probably because of a change in Module:Sprite? File:Broken Sprites.png <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:14, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Probably because of a change in a page which hasn't been edited since the start of the year? No it's more likely that the widgets extension has been uninstalled, relating to gamepedia being down no doubt. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 11:32, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * "sorry but widgets had to be disabled on all wikis due to some issues discovered last night" according to Game widow. She's not willing to give an ETA but it probably won't be long. -Xbony2 (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 12:35, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Used Reactor core
In the Nether reactor core page, They replaced the Used reactor core with an etho slab, can someone fix this? I'll give even more thanks to an admin--66.50.161.108 21:12, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Reverted--66.50.161.108 21:12, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Protection requestss
Better Together Update and Polar Bear are both getting a lot of vandalism. – Nixinova   20:30, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

The time allocated for running scripts has expired.
Found at Minecraft Wiki:Projects/Mob Statues (scroll down). <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 10:54, 27 August 2017 (UTC)


 * That page is far too big. And frankly can with stop with the useless "blueprint" projects? This is tutorial-level content that really doesn't belong on the wiki, and will otherwise forever stay as an unused project. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 11:09, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Move files to Gamepedia Commons
Can an admin (or someone) please move the following files to Gamepedia Commons? I don't know how. I will use these files for my sandbox, for Help:Standardized Views. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 04:50, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The easiest way would just be uploading the files in this wiki too. But one way or another, please fix the numberation fail while doing that. File 1.5 should be File 2 but was just uploaded later, so it should be File 1 to File 10 together.  HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 05:12, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh okay, thanks! I will just be uploading the files here :) <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 05:42, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Gamepedia commons is for files which are generic and useful to any wiki. Those files are MC-specific so are best uploaded here, as this wiki should be available as a local commons for all MCW languages. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 03:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Violating MCW:Wiki rules. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 13:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * That user hasn't done any serious vandalism, and was probably just test-editing. Please unblock. VeenM64 (talk) 16:54, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * A part of the sentence was deleted, which may be clarified as vandalism. But either way, the period appears to be too long. Some time AttemptToCallNil on the Russian wiki began blocking IP vandals that only made a single edit for 2 hours (some sort of a “warning” block), while the same thing here is enough to warrant a three-day block. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 07:34, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The abuse filter had also caught a number of significantly more destructive attempted edits, which factored into the block length. If a well-intentioned user wants to figure out how to edit a wiki, they have several non-disruptive options, including the sandbox and the 'show preview' button. -- Orthotopetalk 10:25, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Currently we (the Russian wiki) also have a sandbox. Also, it is important to see a difference between a test edit and intentional vandalism. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 09:05, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

A suggest
Can put some link of templates or the category of the templates etc. in the main page. It may be useful.--Wth213 (talk) 00:28, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The category is only useful for editors.
 * Also, this page is generally for reporting problems. Discussions belong here. The BlobsPaper.png 16:57, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism-only account. – Nixinova   02:10, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

User Talk Page
I can't create a user talk page due to my account's age. Can I be helped? Ultracombojago (talk) 22:07, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * If an abuse filter is preventing you from creating a talk page (or any page), try again when you are autoconfirmed. The BlobsPaper.png 00:53, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

An IP user created 1.12.2
It's not yet released. Please someone delete the page? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:16, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I redirected this page. -- Beans1512 Talk / Contribs 11:25, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:58, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Violating MCW:Wiki rules. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 12:01, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Please do an action! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 12:20, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ! <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 12:25, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Forgotten Section
You admins should take a close look at section #32; it seems to have been relatively ignored lately. VeenM64 (talk) 17:00, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Add Themogminer to the list of Mojang employees in MediaWiki:Common.css
Just like this: /* Add to known Mojang employee userlinks:  */ .mw-userlink[title="User:Dinnerbone"], .mw-userlink[title="User:HelenAngel"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Jeb"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Jeb mojang"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Johanaronson"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Jonkagstrom47437"], .mw-userlink[title="User:MarcWatson"], .mw-userlink[title="User:MidnightEnforcer"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Minecraft Staff"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Mojang tommo"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Neon Master"], .mw-userlink[title="User:ProfMobius"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Shoghicp"], .mw-userlink[title="User:C418bla"], .mw-userlink[title="User:RazzleberryFox"], .mw-userlink[title="User:ExcitedZe"], .mw-userlink[title="User:Themogminer"] { padding-left: 17px; background: url(https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/media/minecraft.gamepedia.com/thumb/a/ad/Mojang_logo.svg/14px-Mojang_logo.svg.png) no-repeat left center; } &#58;D <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:38, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * He's not a Mojang employee though, so he should go a bit lower, next to EvilSeph and Tahg instead, as a past employee. --Hubry (talk) 12:35, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I haven't checked his real page to check if he is still an employee. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 14:04, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Is there verification that this user account is the real actual Ryan Holtz? – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:13, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * There is, he tweeted about it. It also seems he's employed by Other Ocean Interactive (at least according to his tweet about the 3DS credits) - in this case, he might actually qualify for a different icon next to his name than the grey Mojang logo. --Hubry (talk) 17:33, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I see, good.
 * I like the idea of another flair representing employees of contracted companies, or independent contractors, working on minecraft. What about Grass.png ? –  Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 18:48, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I like that icon, espacially for employees working for Minecraft on different companies :D <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 10:30, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

RazzleberryFox flair
Can we make the user account flair for User:RazzleberryFox (Mariana Graham's account) gray, since she's left the company? Thanks! – Sealbudsman <span style="transform: rotate(-16deg); display: inline-block; top: -1px; position: relative;">talk/contr 17:17, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Xbox One version number outdated
Because the first version of Bedrock Edition was released yesterday, can an admin please update Module:Version/Numbers to the following code? Also, Apple TV Edition isn't updated to Bedrock Edition 1.2 yet. <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 11:35, 21 September 2017 (UTC) <pre class="mw-script"> -- Set server versions to "nil" if they are the same as the client version -- Set development versions to an empty string when there is no development version return { -- Java Edition ['classic'] = { '0.30', prefix = 'Classic' }, ['classic-server'] = { '1.1.2', prefix = 'Classic' }, ['pc'] = '1.12.2', ['pc-server'] = nil, ['weekly'] = '', ['weekly-server'] = nil, ['launcher'] = { '2.0.934', prefix = 'Launcher' }, -- Bedrock Edition ['android'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['android-snap'] = { '', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['ios'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['fireos'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['firetv'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['windows10'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['windows10-snap'] = { '', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['gearvr'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['xbone'] = { '1.2', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, ['xbone-snap'] = { '', prefix = 'Bedrock' }, -- Pocket Edition ['windowsphone'] = { '0.16.2', prefix = 'PE Alpha' }, ['appletv'] = { '1.1.5', prefix = 'PE' }, -- Console Edition ['xbox'] = { 'TU56', prefix = 'Console' }, ['ps3'] = { '1.56', prefix = 'Console' }, ['ps4'] = { '1.55', prefix = 'Console' }, ['psvita'] = { '1.55', prefix = 'Console' }, ['wiiu'] = { 'Patch 26', prefix = 'Console' }, ['nswitch'] = { 'Patch 6', prefix = 'Console' }, }


 * Hello? <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 14:14, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Update the Main page
Many edits have been done on its editcopy, so the main page is already outdated (no New Nintendo 3DS Edition, Bedrock Edition, etc). See also: [ Diff with Main Page] <font face="'Open Sans',sans-serif">– Dentedharp90041tce 13:41, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Renewable Resources update for PE 1.2
With the release of Minecraft PE 1.2, the PE-specific statements in Renewable resource no longer apply. The section can be removed.

The console section may also need to be reviewed with the console edition updates.

47.188.73.79 15:18, 21 September 2017 (UTC)