User talk:KVKConsultancy

List Order (Closed)
Regarding your edits on the backup utilities page,

The minecraft wiki's standard is to organize lists in alphabetic order, not in most recently updated order. You are trying to force your personal preference on everyone without consent of the community as a whole. Anoymous712 23:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Orthope, how is DropCraft coming? Secondly, Anonymous is not a memeber of a community! At best Anonymous is part of a crowd. It is not I that is doing the forcing. I have been happily cooperating with other people CONTRIBUTING to the page (and most notibly have not had complaints from other authors).

Whilst some people seem to be hiding behind Anonymous logins to keep their significantly alphabetically named offering at the top.

Happily tho I have community respect. I'm pretty sure their aren't too many people named Anoymous with tremendous public respect (but certainly ones names Anoymous712 have respect :). My complaint is with Anonymouse and too much much skim reading there in)

--KVKConsultancy 07:53, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I am not the same user as Anoymous712. I am also not the author of DropCraft; if I were, it would be kept up-to-date. -- Orthotope 10:09, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * So its just a amusing coinicidence that your so concerned to alphabetially sort the Backup Utilities list. Yah.. right. If it looks like a fish, swims like a fish... its probably a shark.

Whatever though, people can judge for themselves. To give you the very best benifit of any doubt you must like to interfere where you have no interests nor are directly contributing. Focusing on the positive, most users of this Wiki change pages when they have something to add or when they make something new).

--KVKConsultancy 13:30, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Hopefully clearing up this mess..
Anoymous712 is just a username. Everyone is equal in the wiki. Your words have affected my feelings greatly. You have no right to insult other users. '''ED: No insult intended to be given. My complaint is with feeling rather unequal not with you.'''

Anoymous712 13:50, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems that my more than 400 efforts to imorove the wiki has all been in vain. Anoymous712 13:57, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I would not like to upset or insult any person and I wish you the very best and hope that your productive efforts reward you and bring joy into your life and of those for whom you care.

I have not said anything offensive, or tried to offend, I have mearly prehpas pointed out some uncomfortable facts.

--KVKConsultancy 14:21, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * "Anoymous712" is his handle here (Note: Anoymous, not Anonymous). I've seen his work and know him to be a respectable editor trying to maintain the quality of this wiki. Searching Google for "Anoymous712" gives his Minecraft Wiki userpage as the third result (the first two results being for a youtube user which appears to be him as well). He is in no way an "anonymous user", such as those who have no account and sign with an IP address. "KVKConsultancy", on the other hand: I haven't seen but one mainspace edit from you which wasn't about mods in some way, and many of those were promoting your own mod. That's not being a part of this community, that's trying to own a page. (inb4: I know that I haven't established any sort of reputation here yet, since I've been editing anonymously until yesterday. In looking through the community portal to familiarize myself with how things work here as compared to other wikis, I came across your issue, and that's how I got here. It seems you neglected that step: learning the rules of the wiki. But then, I don't care to get involved in your debate about alphabetization) In summary: this wiki is a community, and you seem to have a skewed view of how that works. Please refrain from insulting community members (and yes, "anonymous users" are members of the community as well)... it's really in your best interest to remain civil, anyway, if you want people to support you. Happy editing! --timrem 18:47, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Because this page has since been modified, I feel the need to point out that my response was to this post, and not the comments which now appear above. --timrem 00:19, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, I want to appologise to Anoymous712 (specifically for misreading their username), the username was meant to confuse for comedy I guess. Unfortunately, it came after 2x true Anonymous users undid posts I made. I stand by all I have said but I am sorry I mistook your name (please note I have never insulted you, it seems my oppinion about anonimity is not to your taste) and I hope you understand the reasons even if you don't agree with the conclusion. Like I said above, I bear no ill will towards yourself or any other user. I infact appreciate timrem pointing out that I misread the username.


 * 1) I have offered no insults to any members. Claiming I have is liable. Here is a summary of what I did do: Mistook Anoymous712 for Anonymous712. Raised an oppinion about anonymous users upsetting Anoymous712 (I referd to anonymous in the dictionary, not to any specific user), I made oppinion that an anonymous person is not a community member. I stated this because in recent posts by myself on this Wiki, anonymous or IP based users have on several occasions undone postings I have made mear moments after I posted them in an unhelpful manor and without maintaining the content. I therefore have a negative view towards such Wiki utilisers. I have questioned the motives of one particular member, Orthope. I can only state my reasons why I question those motives and have stated them for the record.


 * 2) I have no interest in "owning any page" (possbily with the exception of this one since its associated with my username). I would feel it "nice" if when I made a new update to my tool that update could be highlighted for a day or so people notice. Though, at this stage im "why bother".


 * 3) Its funny how many anonymous people (not Anoymous712 who is not anonynmous it transpires, my mistake) care to be involved with something they all confess to have no involvement with. Troll?


 * 4) I read the Wiki Rules carefully when I joined. Thank you.

I have never been anything but Civil. I have though been ordered around "and leave it!", told things authoritively by anonymous users (not 712) which cannot be found within the rules, had changes reversed and seen people reportedly with no involvement (read there not providing any new contributions or partaking in the section in question) make it their business to "govern" and "control" the content generated by people who do contribute.

Please don't implying i'm insulting other users. Thanks.

At this stage, I think im done here. Even with my gripes, I still feel every member of this community who is working to add content and creating amazing tools is fantastic. I have no ill will toward any other user nor would seek to insult anyone. Ever.

KVKConsultancy 22:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Your message put a smile on my face:)

--Anoymous712 06:04, 12 April 2012 (UTC)