Talk:Block/Archive 1

Problem
"Minecraft is composed of and built entirely out of blocks."

False. Minecraft is composed of and built entirely out of java bytecode.

Perhaps the intention was: Minecraft worlds are composed of and built entirely out of blocks (and mobs, and items.)


 * There's no need to split hairs. We all know that. Ary31415 02:41, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't the mob spawner block be listed in the menu at the bottom?
I think it definitely should. I would but I can't figure out how. --BahamutSalad 03:14, 15 September 2010 (CDT)

Page Needs Help
In block list is an errror!

ya i know! in the recent update, TNT may be generated in the pit under the pyramids, so it needs to be added to the naturally generated list 66.240.56.238 16:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Page Needs Help
As you guys can obviously see, the information on this page is way outdated. I might re-write it myself if I can be assed, but in the mean time, any one who wants to, please!

--Shapeshiftr 15:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

The lava block image is 'dated. Additionally the Sponge block is shown from a different perspective than the rest and the glass block is at an odd rotation. --PCG
 * I already asked Zombuster to make new ones but I guess he became lazy. Guess he and I are pretty the same in those things :P--Quatroking - Row! Row! Fight the power! 00:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you're really itchin for an icon, if you want I can rip them from the block menu. -- Shoy 00:56, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you manage to make it the exact same size as the others, go for it.
 * I can't without making them look ugly stretched. >: -- Shoy 23:59, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Adminium: Misc block or construction? SteGriff 11:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Misc, considering regular players aren't able to place it unless given the ability to.--Quatroking - Row! Row! Fight the power! 14:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

The image showing all the different blocks needs to be changed. I don't believe all the cloth blocks are available anymore.


 * I believe all the wool blocks are still available. Ary31415 02:42, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't see the point in spamming all those links to block types in the paragraphs when there's a big table of block types below that link to the same things. Can this be changed? I think an Ores page could be considered as well. -- Aexis 20:18, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I added Ice and Sugar Cane, as well as information about dungeon blocks and Obsidian to the section about naturally occurring blocks. -Demented_Dr 08:05 8 February 2011


 * Corrected the ice data block. You can obtain ice blocks with silk touch now.  Was reverted sometime around 1.2.5 or something.  Maybe a pre-release.  Download pre-release and try.  Worked for me. Starport592 04:11, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

EDIT: The Sugar Cane Block cannot be obtained without hacks. In creative mode you are only allowed to get the item, not the block. The same goes for cactus and netherwart. Starport592 04:16, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Do we really need
all these individual little pages for each block? None of them really reach over a short paragraph and an infobox in length; it'd be more practical to combine them into a larger page with sections for each block. Haipa Doragon 14:05, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I take it this was a really old request? As having a sub-section for each block kind of helps, but it is agreed that each block having it's own page is kind of pointless.Kenji 03 10:36, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Block Page Redo
We should re-do this page.

First off, we should have an image for every block (decorations can stay as one image) in that purple square (including Diamond Ore/Block, Furnace, Crafting Table, and Chest).

We should reorganize the blocks into 5 categories.

Survival (All blocks seen in Survival) Creative (Blocks only available in Creative) Indev (Blocks only available in Indev) Misc (keep this as is) Fluids (keep this as is)

Then the image on the right should be remade to include the updated Gold block. -KazooieBanjo 23:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)


 * i am working on that really, just give it time. --FuzzyWuff 11:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I just finished redirecting almost all of the pages, the only ones I didn't were the coal/iron/gold/diamond blocks and ore. We will most likely need to give them a rocksteady name, which means changing names from Iron to Iron Ore and the blocks to Iron Blocks and try to avoid using Iron/Gold/Diamond as a name in general. Actually, putting blocks and ore on the same article sounds better, we should probably try that instead. Second this page needs all block types to be synchronized, which means everything needs the same picture and the same layout. And of course need to add the missing blocks so far. And when is the items page coming? --Alphasoldier 12:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

So once i do this move as well, i will call you again to clean the old crafting pages like mushroom and stuff who will need cleaning.
 * actually, blocks are blocks, the items you carry are craftable items, so they will go in the same way as block in the craftable page, we are going to put together the crafting page with the furnace (i am not sure why crafting and furnace are two separate page actually) and all the component you can craft.

to give you an idea, i am following this table of rule http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Blocks,_items_and_data_values Blocks goes to blocks, and items goes to crafting, but i need your advice, do we call items items, or we keep the name as crafting ? because one or the other, it's going to be merged together. --FuzzyWuff 12:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

--If you are going to put each item in a list like the same way you did with blocks I'd call it items, if you're going to keep the same crafting layout I'd go with crafting. --Alphasoldier 12:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Just made a big update to the pages, added all the ores and blocks and also glass, the things that still need to be added are the decorations, (mushrooms, flowers and sapling) and crafting table and furnace, but not sure if they should be added. I also immediately redirected all the links and every page to their section. --Alphasoldier 00:07, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Should the Workbench be here too? Crafting should be kept separate, but linked to from the Workbench or Furnace section of this article (and probably referred to in the other, since we only link to another article once on a page). For that matter I suggest we also have a 'See also: Crafting' type thing for the Cloth, Torch, Trunk, Wood, Chest, Glass, TNT, Stone, Coal, Iron, Gold and Diamond Blocks as well. Your call though. You're the one that's been doing all the good work. :P SteveZombie 12:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Did just about what you said, I think it works out nicely, still need to add the decorations, no clue how to work on that. Secondly I'm wondering about changing/reuploading every picture in the Block info, I like the small version a lot but I have no clue how those were screened. If I would figure out how, I'd try make them myself. Then also a lot of blocks need their info updated seeing some blocks don't have information about indev. Finally feel free to suggest any changes or additions like templates, anything to make things more organized. --Alphasoldier 18:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Template for each block
We should have an organized template for each block.

Suggestion

Summary. (a small explanation of the block) Unique Properties. (Anything special about the block, if nothing is then do not use this section) How to get it. (list the recipe required to get it or the means of obtaining it, if creative only do not use this section) What it can be used for (list all recipes involving using it, if no recipes exist say "Building things")-KazooieBanjo 22:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Lava
You cannot drown in Lava. Generate a hell map, dig deep down, tunnel under a magma pool, then dig up until you "drown" yourself in Magma. No air bubbles appear, but you do indeed take the standard fire damage and will die in well under 15 seconds.

Also, on a hell type map all water is replaced with Lava. I have yet to generate a map with actual water on it, and all Isometric Screenshots show absolutely no water apparent on these types of maps.Kenji 03 10:39, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I find it rather humourous that there were people asking for tests regarding drowning in Lava and that the method would be constant healing, despite the fact that death by drowning would require not healing. SteveZombie 16:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, well, you take constant damage from Lava and you take constant damage from being-on-fire and you take constant damage from drowning - you'd think that you'd take lava+fire damage for 15sec, then take lava+fire+drowning damage, which means you run through your food supply faster. --Vuntic, who isn't really interested in registering for just one comment, at 15:29, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Fix something, please. :D
Ri'ja- Can someone shrink down the image of all the blocks? I don't know how, but IMO it makes the page seem a bit cluttered.


 * I deleted this whole template because it didnt have new blocks from alpha and its need redesign EpaGamer 11:12, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Hey Dude, put the page back the way it was. If you need to redesign it, do it before you delete everything. Now it's a pain in the ass to search for each block and not having a quick reference. Wow, now I can't even look at the history for the page. It's completely gone dip-shit.

block images
how do people get block images like that? --Kizzycocoa 09:37, 24 August 2010 (PDT)

Regarding edit
I think that the edit made on 23:50 25 August, 2010 by Zaratrusta is awesome and should not be undone.

Rarity
Would it be relevant to have rarities of the blocks somewhere on their page? Not statistical, but like "common", "rare" kinda stuff?

it would be more relevant to have a statistical analysis on the rarity of the block types, you'll figure out which are rarer just by playing

but if the blocks could be given a value out of 100 (or 1) it would be much easier for a server to set up an economy.

Changed Red Dirt to Red Mossy Cobblestone
I am very certain that this was confirmed by notch on twitter. Correct me if I'm wrong. --RandomCreeper 15:48, 29 October 2010 (CDT)

Chicken Eggs
so... a chicken was walking by me and it sorta laid an egg for me.. what the hell does it do??
 * Your question has no relevancy to this article and egg does nothing for now. Probably a future update has something to do with it :D --Scykei 07:05, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

The egg DOES do something now,with the 1.3 update,YOU CAN MAKE CAKE! :P

TNT Resistance
I've read the TNT page and it lists the TNT resistance of each placeable block type, and unless I'm mistaken, the resistance for many of the blocks is incorrect on their dedicated page. On the TNT page, Stone is listed as having a resistance of 30, on it's page it says 3. Cobblestone is listed with 30, it's page says 1. Is this an error or am I missing something?

Update Picture?
We now have six new blocks. --PurpleKiwi 07:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Talking about updating the picture, many of the names in the picture (Such as mossy cobblestone, netherstone, lightstone, ect.) have now been officially named since the Beta update, and are therefore outdated. Could somebody update the picture?

Hubertus 16:27, 21 December 2010 (CST)

Add an alphabetical list?
It could be handy, and I have one hear that I had to make for a check list --Icalasari 03:59, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Opacity issues
The article says:

(Translucent blocks section:) Blocks: leaves (opaque when graphics are on fast)

(Behavior section) It also says:

Suffocation only happens in opaque blocks.

This needs to be cleared out. When it says opaque, is it visually opaque ou does it bear the properties of an opaque block? I can't be sure, but it seemed that on Fancy graphics, leaves made my character suffocate. This leads me to think that either Leaves are not translucent (do not bear the properties of a translucent block), or this statement is partially true, or false. --Ha3 19:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I believe that by "opaque" it means blocks that cause blocks behind it not not to be rendered. Leaves are opaque on fast graphics and transparent on fancy. Leaves shouldn't suffocate you on fancy. They're not meant to. Ary31415 02:48, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Spawning
On the wiki it says: Mobs only spawn on opaque blocks and in transparent/open space. I attempted to build a dark room for dancing in using only translucent blocks so that nothing could spawn. After monsters spawned, I tested a few things and got it to work. The only things i know for sure is that monsters cannot spawn on half steps, glass, or stairs. I only tried cobblestone, but im assuming its the same for wooden stairs too, and I also know for sure that they can spawn on restone wire, and redstone torches. Anyways, could someone maybe do some more testing or at least add something of this nature in? This article mislead me and made creating that room a lot harder than it should have been


 * You're right that it's more nuanced than that. Monsters can't spawn on transparent blocks, but they can spawn in transparent blocks, on top of an opaque block. That's why wire and torches don't help. I'm actually surprised that they won't spawn inside steps too - I'm not seeing the code that does hitbox detection. D0sboots 15:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

There is a whole block missing from here
I can't find info on it anywhere

It is under iron and to the right of obsidian. What the heck is it? --Icalasari 07:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Im asking the same. Its like weird stone with blue shapes in it. I have no idea what it could be. --NEG4tive 14:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

It's currently not implemented in the game, like Cobwebs. MDR 15:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

That spider web image has been there for a long time but still it has no use. Im just thinking when it will come... --NEG4tive 11:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)


 * It was known as "Crying Obsidian"/etc., but in the 1.5 update, the texture was replaced with the gray scale grass side. Cool12309(T 23:51, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

will they ever do new ore blocks and metal?
I wonder if there is ever going to be a update with new types of ore and metal. For example zinc,tin,copper,silver,aluminium,lead,platinum and more. I would like to combine some of these metals like copper + zinc = bronze. 18:48 2011-03-29.

Move the block display on the Blocks page
As you can see on this page the blocks are at the very bottom, I checked and <0.01% of visitors can see those without scrolling. They are the main focus of the article, the opening paragraph is just filler text and the latter is not more important than the blocks themselves.

We should move the section that contains the blocks (called with \{\{Blocks\}\}) to the top of the page.

Thoughts? --Citricsquid 17:19, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Navbars are normally at the bottom of a page since they facilitate movement between pages but are secondary to the article itself. In that vein, why do you think the blocks navbar is the "main focus of the article"? --JonTheMon 13:25, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Conversion to Parent Page
I propose that this page be converted into a 'parent page', which would allow the page be split into various appropriate sections and actually have a list of blocks available.

I know that the list of blocks currently can be found on the data values page, but wouldn't it be a better idea to merge the two together, so that blocks information can be immediately accessible on the blocks page? Plus, it would provide a centralized 'hub' for information about blocks, which users can then very easily access. - Bioran23
 * Doesn't the navbox serve that purpose of listing the blocks? --JonTheMon 13:31, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

New 'Window' Block

 * Your link is 403 forbidden, don't put new topics at the top of the page, sign your posts, and this is more appropriate to discuss on the Talk:Upcoming features page. – ultradude25 ( T at 10:07, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok, no problem. I have moved the topic over to Talk:Upcoming features then. RROD 10:19, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Block Template
We should remake that picture showing every block. Piston and Sticky piston are written in a brighter font

Platinum Hinted/Confirmed?
Notch tweeted this a few days ago: http://twitter.com/notch/status/93364977204862976. Does this mean we might get platinum-based items? It seems like it's been overlooked. - DarkAuk 00:18, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Condensing the technical blocks portion of the navbox
Considering everything in that section goes to the same page, and that none of those blocks really have any importance, I think the technical blocks ought to be condensed down to a single link. --Draexzhan 00:42, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

"Types of Blocks" suggestion
In the types of blocks (Where it has "Mechanics, Plants and such) there should be "Pocket Edition" where the pocket edition only blocks are kept.

New language
How to add new translate? I made partialy czech translate there: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Blocks/cz I try simply add new line at end of the article under Блоки, but unsuccesfull. –The preceding unsigned comment was added by Odious Slug (Talk&#124;Contribs) Please sign your posts with


 * I'd suggest asking at the Czech Translation Page. Verhalthur (talk)(contribs) 22:38, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, never mind. The links like Блоки are for translations that have become fully separate wikis, not translations in progress.  Verhalthur (talk)(contribs) 22:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, we have a lots of work to do. --Odious Slug 12:25, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Remove the lantern and link from the REMOVED category?
Unlike gears and crying obsidian, lanterns never had a sprite or texture present in the game files at any point at all. Technically, lanterns have thus never been removed as they were never present. They were a concept, never prototyped, at best. Should it therefor be in the removed category and not in a new cancelled category, under blocks?

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HOLY COW
VANDALISM!! -- Usyflad 10   04:20, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Someone ban User:Something Epic. He is a vandal! -- Usyflad 10   04:27, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Overworld Portal
The "Portal" block needs to be added to the "naturally created" section of the Overworld, to reflect the section in the Nether. 109.76.129.179 15:11, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Soul Sand nether structures
Requesting adding soulsand to nether structures, i would try it myself but i can't handle coding these pages :S If you think "look at it says only generated with structures" look at what overworld structures have, water and other stuff. they also generate normally. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 94.209.23.98 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 21:36, 30 January 2012. Please sign your posts with
 * Good point; the nether wart needs soul sand to grow on. Orthotope 08:19, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Sections
Urgh, why does this page keep getting updated? Now that everything is in sections, it's even harder to find the block I want from an id. <_< 134.36.68.231 12:10, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Why are you using this page to find blocks? Data values. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 12:19, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Block Box Issue
Perhaps it's just for me, but on every page that has a block summary box (ie. the box at the bottom with all of the blocks listed in it), the corresponding images for the blocks are either incorrect, stretched out of proportion, or both. For example, next to "Gravel" is a picture of what looks like sand. My guess is that, if the template pulls from the minecraft.jar version of the textures, something has changed either the parsing of the image or the image itself has changed. Either way, the images are messed up, and I was hoping that someone with some more experience could help.

Thanks,

Scrat9518 15:01, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

The blocks (category) images are wrong.
Somebody has vandalized the blocks (category) to show the wrong texture for blocks, and it is very confusing. For example, the sugar cane block shows the cactus texture, and the cauldron shows a cake, slabs show mushrooms, ect... Somebody needs to fix this, because I don't know how. signed by Brickman2011 18:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Not vandalism, just clear your browser's cache (Ctrl+F5 on most browsers, may be Shift+F5 on some). C ali nou - talk × contribs » 18:55, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

deleted large portion of Additional Reading section
see title

reason: redundant

entire series of charts above the section sum up all of the information present, thus the section was extremely cluttered --Ancientpower 07:25, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

edit: also removed the trivia section because it was poorly worded and isn't really trivia at all --Ancientpower 07:31, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I've reverted part of your edits as they are semi-unconstructive. - Asterick6 (talk) 22:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Correcting Error
I belive that Nether Fortresses are spawned even with generate structures off. So shouldn't there be no Nether Structures section? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 174.101.198.196 (Talk) 20:42, 14 July 2012. Please sign your posts with
 * Can you provide a seed and coordinates for a nether fortress that generates with generate Structures turned off?  LB ( T 20:59, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Added the same comment as on The Nether, noting that Nether Fortresses always generate. I thought there already was one, might have been deleted at some point. -- Orthotope 02:53, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

New Block
Can someone add the new Adventure mode control block jeb keeps talking about on his twitter to the Planned blocks? Thanks. -- coocoo617 03:57, 27 July 2012 (EST)

Item frame
Shouldn't the item frame be a block since it is placed? Pogoman122 16:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)