Talk:Llama

Space required is same as Player
At least as of 16w41a (pre-1.11, Exploration Update), Llamas seem to take up a 1 X 1, 2 tall Block space as a Player. The things learned for Animal Pens! And so they are about 2-4X as maneuverable in range of (random) motion, as Horse-types (which can be controlled, like Pigs). Yilante 108.215.209.201 22:00, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they're smaller than a 1x1x2 space, like the player is. If you hit F3+D, you'll see they're a bit bigger.  It would be nice if someone could get their exact dimensions...
 * So what do you mean when you say, 2-4x maneuverable in range of random motion as horses? – Sealbudsman talk/contr 22:34, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Llamas in 16w41a are 0.9 wide and 1.87 tall. For comparison, pigs are 0.9 wide and 0.9 tall, cows are 0.9 wide and 1.4 tall, horses are 1.3964844 wide and 1.6 tall, and players are normally 0.6 wide and 1.8 tall. Anomie x (talk) 12:07, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Great for finding that! hope it gets added to the Page!! As for "maneuverable," it requires thinking-diagonally.


 * I just realized today - thinking of that, already myself - we hardly ever get a chance, to think about diagonal movement, even just as Player-entities /our Avatars, in-Game. If we're "round things" going through a diagonal-movement (say through the corners of a 1 X 1 space - so technically a 3 X 3 space with 2 opposite corners removed - get the line between?), but Horse-type Mob need just-shy of 2 X 2 (instead of 1 X 1), then using ( a^2 + b^2 = c^2 ), 1.412 would be ratio'ned -up to ( sq. rt. of 8 = ) ( 2 * sq. rt. [of 2] ), or 2X that.


 * The "2-4X," comes from where we have the greatest flexibility, in MC movement, by going-(recti)linearly, and instead of a 4 X 4 square (with again 2 opposite corners, of 1 X 1 removed) needed to not-bump zig-zag walls, a Horse-type Mob would need a 6 X 6 square, for the same passage (within walls, included in the total size square needed, to at least make a "dual right-angle," or left /right else right /left, turn, to keep-coming -out, straight). But 4 x 4 Blocks = 16 Blocks of space, while 6 X 6 Blocks = 36 Blocks (more than 2X), of space (not to mention the height, factor being 1-2X (4 Blocks again -> 5-6 Blocks, this continues to add to the 3-D, Volume calculation), as much to not hit the head /be able to Dismount, without damage).


 * The kind of stuff you notice - attempting to - build Nether Portals for Riding use. /Abuse.. the Skeletal Horses seem to survive this - barely - the best... (and they all need extra both-sides of Portal, space) Yilante 108.215.209.201 06:23, 17 October 2016 (UTC)