Talk:Java Edition version history

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Server download
Should the download link to the minecraft_server.jar be removed on all non-current versions? Almost all of the links just take you to the current download, in this case, 1.8.5 JNRM3 (talk) 17:53, 6 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I would leave it as a default. We might as well send the user to the latest server over no server. – KnightMiner  t/c 23:48, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Merge PC version history pages
The result of the discussion was pages merged. – KnightMiner  t/c 03:08, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

So, as I mentioned a bit back a couple times, I would like to see the various PC version history pages merged into one article, as they no longer have too much content for a single article. I've written up a sample in my workbench which shows the idea better I think.

The page basically contains the small tables for each major version number, including infdev, indev, classic, and pre-classic versions (as links to their articles). Overall, it basical removes the need for version history nav, as the about can handle links to planned versions and mentioned features, and the disambig page can easily handle links to other versions.

– KnightMiner  t/c 23:48, 14 July 2015 (UTC)


 * -BDJP (t 01:28, 15 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Looks good, although I noticed that the versions earlier than Alpha are just linked from their respective version pages. Will these stay too? –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 11:26, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep. It helps with the consistency between parts of the development cycle, and is a good way to link the versions on the subpages, especially since both the Indev/Infdev lack of version numbers and the overall lack of content per update, it makes little to split the pre-alpha stuff into separate pages. – KnightMiner  t/c 02:32, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * , I also suggest leaving the phase names (Alpha, Beta, etc.) in the template, but instead having them redirect to their page (NOT version history links). --MarioProtIV (talk) 13:34, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That would make sense, but only if we were changing it from a sidebar (basically saying "these other pages help cover this topic") to a nabvox (basically saying "you might be interested in these pages"), which now that I think of it is not such a bad idea. It would also help reduce the excess of pages dumped into the minecraft navbox. – KnightMiner  t/c 02:32, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * support, as long as nobody would write articles for Infdev and earlier versions. — Agent NickTheRed37 (talk) 15:38, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * – I have a similar opinion as Nick about the early version articles, though to me it doesn't make a difference here. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png T/C 16:01, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Update highlights
Frequently enough on https://www.reddit.com/r/minecraft, I see people being referred to this page whenever they ask "what did I miss in the last several years".

I can imagine people must be clicking links in this giant set of tables here, to get any idea at all.

I wonder if we could put in a third column, after 'Release Date', that would list out maybe some BlockLinks and ItemLinks of what was added in that version, maybe some short prose. So that a person could, at a glance, see the key highlights of what was changed or added since they last played. With the aim of making this page more helpful as a guide when they are pointed here. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 18:34, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Renaming
So with the new names, how are we going to structure this? If we add Java Edition to the beginning of all current update pages, what will the PE, Minecraft, etc pages be called? Minecraft 1.1? How can we fix this? – Nixinova •   • 07:31, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

The way we currently do is to add Bedrock Edition in front of every one of them. See the style guide. This is to prevent confusion between original Java and Bedrock. Skylord wars (talk) 08:25, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Post-move issues
This page was moved, but the redirects that link to the subpages were not, so now there are 150 items in Special:DoubleRedirects. Could someone create a double-redirect-fixer bot? ? – Nixinova   07:44, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Hold on. Since Classic pages now have their own page, we should redirect these pages to their own pages. It will take some time by the way.--Skylord wars (talk) 08:12, 22 April 2018 (UTC)


 * This looks like some tedious task I'd find fun to do manually. I'm crazy like that, but the report is empty by now. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 19:05, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Lost Versions
I have found a website which lists lots of versions missing from the launcher – Classic (0.0.9a, 12a(_01, 02, 03), 13a(_02, 03, 04), 14a, 23a_01), Survival Test, Indev (& 0.31), Infdev (×5), Alpha (1.0.7, 1.0.8_01, 1.0.16(_01, 02)), Beta Prereleases 1–6, RC2, and 2.0. They are on this guy's website (and they seem to function without any issues); I'm not quite sure how he managed to acquire them though. – Nixinova   08:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, almost all of those are fake. Check the META-INFs. I do have real versions of a lot of these though (hence the images I've uploaded). - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 08:09, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * How are the 'fakes' any different from real versions? Don't they have the same code etc? – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 08:27, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * They're different because they're not the same code, they're just recreations. Most of them aren't even accurate. Creeper4414 (talk) 22:03, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I found a few Classic, Infdev, and Alpha versions on there which seem to have their META-INFs intact. I've compared them to existing versions and they seem to be correct. The MOJANG_C files are also there. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 07:30, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * This still doesn't feel right to me. - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 07:27, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well what are the features that make it definitely a real version? I've been comparing the META-INFs and they seem to work out. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 07:33, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Having the META-INF intact. It should also have codesigns Creeper4414 (talk) 07:45, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Codesigns? And most of the files do have intact META-INFs, and a lot also have the MOJANG_C  and  ; I don't know what they do but they're there. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 07:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm, interesting. could you list the versions? Creeper4414 (talk) 01:08, 9 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Infdev April 20, June 8, June 27; Alpha 1.0.8_01, 1.0.16_01; and probably a few more. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 04:51, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Infdev April 20, June 8, June 27; Alpha 1.0.8_01, 1.0.16_01; and probably a few more. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 04:51, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I also have another place to download old .jar files. Minecraft Version Changer. Although this doesnt go up to Classic versions, it has some of the version that the launcher doesnt include. It even includes a server .jar file. This is extremely useful to check the server version. Such as "1.0.XX". About yours, I had saw it before but it doesnt feel right. Plus it was already 7 years after the versions released. Skylord wars (talk) 08:23, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Are those real or also fakes? – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 04:43, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * These are true. They can be easily be tested by downloading the version from Mojang with the one from MVC. Compare both of them and they are identical. If you run an old server, you can play it using .jar file from Mojang since the two versions are the same. Skylord wars (talk) 05:53, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Like MCP4U pointed out, a lot of these versions are fake. I run a community that archives these versions with much attention to detail (so we don't have any fake versions and can easily identify them), message me or MCP4U if you want access. Also, you can't post them via Mediafire on the wiki, I'm sure that violates rule 1 of the wiki. Undo any revisions you've made that add links to them to articles. ―HalfOfAKebab (talk, contribs) 15:30, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I never thought that the download link existed, but the download link https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/minecraft_classic_server.zip still exist. Can anyone tell me what version is this?--Skylord wars (talk) 13:33, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

"Snapshot 1.x.y" vs "1.x.y-pre"
In the launcher, versions such as 1.4.3-pre are labelled as just "snapshot 1.4.3", and ingame it just says "Minecraft 1.4.3". Even the jar files on the article only say 1.4.3. This is the same for 1.6-pre and others. Should these pages have "pre" in their name? If so, should the lead sections remove the pre? This is a bit confusing. – Nixinova  05:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

What's the obsolete Minecraft version for Java Edition
The obsolete Minecraft versions are the Minecraft versions discontinued more than ten years ago (as roughly). The Minecraft versions older than the release can be defunct, and defunctions are terminated at Alpha. --183.88.158.244 04:23, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Those sentences don't make any sense and there are no versions of MC older than a decade (yet). What are you talking about when you say "obselete" and "defunct"? – Nixinova Nixinova sig1.png Nixinova sig2.png 04:56, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Some older versions of the game no longer work on the latest version of Windows 10; specifically, most Classic, Indev, and Infdev versions cause crashes. Maybe that's what they were trying to refer to? - Luke18033 (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Use Y-M-D
Wouldn't it be better to use ymd in these small tables? they easily sort and it's just easier to see the release dates, as ymd gives the order of importance. – Nixinova   08:12, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * But we don't need to sort here, and the used format is the default of the wiki. I think it's fine right now. – Jack McKalling [ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 08:22, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Background colours
For some reason I can't tell the difference between the background colours of "Unavailable in the launcher, but archived elsewhere" and "No direct evidence/proof exists". Both are grey to me, and although one is probably a bit darker when used in the table, I cannot see this difference in the legend because it is so small. This applies to both the main Classic legend as well as the Pre-Classic one. – Jack McKalling 07:31, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I've changed the colour of the former to make them more distinguishable, and also merged some colours. – Nixinova Nixinova sig1.png Nixinova sig2.png 07:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * So much better, thanks! – Jack McKalling [ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 08:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)