Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard

issues with responsive style at small sizes
Not sure what to call it - it's not the mobile style, but the normal looking style, scaled to mobile size. I noticed these issues on Firefox on mobile, but haven't checked other browsers.

Issue #1 -

The Gamepedia bar is half-overlapping the search bar. Makes the search bar finicky to use. It's been that way for a while, not specific to this MW upgrade.

Issue #2 -

The "Share" tab is raised up out of place. I don't necessarily care about that, it just looks funny.

Issue #3 -

The "Talk" tab often gets covered up by all the other tabs on the right. It appears that stuff is supposed to collapse into the "More" tab when the screen is small, but this isn't preventing Talk from getting hidden. That's also been happening for a long time.

– Sealbudsman talk/contr 12:43, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Desktop view is not intended for mobile. That's why there is a mobile view. Anyway, it should still be fixed, though. – Dentedharp90041tce 16:10, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


 * And also, if you go to this page https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Minecraft_Wiki&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile, which is the mobile view, there are some rendering issues. Is anyone incharge of this?--Skylord wars (talk) 13:25, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I believe I fixed the rendering issue at https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Minecraft_Wiki/editcopy&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile, however, it's not yet completely optimized though. – ITechieGamertce 09:11, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Subscribing to a category for all its (future) pages?
Would it be possible to allow users to watch category membership changes? Like "subscribing" to a category and getting notified about any page that gets added or removed from that category? I searched the mediawiki wiki, and it appears there is such a function, documented at Manual:CategoryMembershipChanges. But it says it is turned off by default. I really like that feature, but it could only be turned on by an admin. With it, I wouldn't need to manually look out for new snapshot pages that I'd like to add to my watchlist for instance, it would simply notify me of any new ones. Pretty please? ^_^ – Jack McKalling (t • c • p) 10:27, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * A dev ticket has been created to see if this is possible. I will update once I hear back. --Pcj (talk) 23:37, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * This will be reviewed next week. I hope to have another update then. --Pcj (talk) 15:14, 8 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Great! Looking forward to know more about this. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 15:42, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * This is now live. --Pcj (talk) 20:29, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Does that mean that the feature is now enabled? If so, this section should probably be moved into the archivable issues. MarcelTheHippie (talk • contribs • logs&#32;• block log) 🐷🥕☮️ 02:59, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes it has been enabled. You can use the feature on Recent Changes and your Watchlist by using the "(Show) page categorization" options. Now that I saw it in action it isn't exactly what I was personally looking for, but this is better overall than before. Every editor using those special pages can now more easily see new pages to certain categories. I've linked to the manual of this feature above if anyone needs it. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 19:49, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Anon invasion of the Russian Minecraft Wiki
The anonymous vandals and spammers are plaguing the Russian Minecraft Wiki. Our project perhaps never has seen consecutive blocks of so many IP address ranges. At least three types of malicious actions are being done: advertisements, actions related to the recently blocked user Rusy233 ms, and actions related to the long-ago blocked user EnderMamix. Some IP addresses say that these users don’t have anything to do with the spammers and their accounts were hacked, but it is impossible to track every IP address and confirm these words. Vandals are using a multitude of VPNs and possibly other anonymizing utilities to evade blocks. I even had to engineer a new abuse filter to fight against a specific type of vandalism (it was later patched by AttemptToCallNil). This is terrible.

I request Curse administration (Game widow) and GRASP (Pcj, xbony2) to help our project in taking care of these mysterious bad guys. But beware: after my message they might target you too! —  BabylonAS (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:24, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * OK — Game widow (talk) 14:25, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I will check the RC periodically to look at anything suspicious. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 16:03, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I wonder if it is possible to enable Captcha (or similar) for IPs and users who haven't been autoconfirmed for as long as this spam attack may last...? -- DarkShadowTNT  NL Admin ( t  ♦  c ) 19:02, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Nothing's really been happening, probably because you put in a good abuse filter. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 12:30, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No, we weren’t messing up with abuse filters in the last 24 hours. It may just be a break between attacks. —  BabylonAS (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:25, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I thought you said you did but whatever. Will keep an eye out and stuff though. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 23:38, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

This is terrible. The vandal adapts to any upgrades of the abuse filter (it already includes some obscene words of Russian language, de facto enforcing one of the rules’ points), pushing his edits out of any filter’s pattern range. AttemptToCallNil suggested on the Russian wiki’s Discord channel to block all open proxies based on information from Wikipedia with the aid of Curse or an admin bot. The problem is will Curse allow such a radical action or not, but the Replicators (as we call the vandal IP addresses in Discord after Stargate creatures) are already a nagging issue interfering with our project’s normal life. —  BabylonAS (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 15:28, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * To clarify, just today we've already blocked twelve proxies used by the vandal to make over 40 edits. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 15:37, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Game widow@undefined could you please have Extension:TorBlock installed for the Russian wiki? Some administrators suspect that at least some of these proxy IPs are Tor exit nodes. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 15:03, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Installed — Game widow (talk) 17:13, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The extension is now on Special:Version. Thank you for your assistance. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 17:20, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

As of now, the Replicators are mostly dormant. Some evidences suggest that Rusy233 ms is actually behind this mess, and a indefinite block has been proposed for him in Discord. Also, I have coded a program that allows to consequently block IP addresses en masse, which would allow solving the issue of open proxies. —  BabylonAS (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 13:46, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Rusy233 ms has been indefinitely blocked by AttemptToCallNil just right now. —  BabylonAS (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 16:49, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but it was not me. Please, so that this does not happen again. Rusy233 ms (talk) 17:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * What's up with this drama? I translated Rusy's talk page from the Russian wiki and the best that I can understand is that their account has caused much vandalism, which Rusy has said is because hackers got into the account. But that's generally odd since no one else has ever had a problem with that since MediaWiki is pretty secure. I'd assume Rusy would have tried changing their password to something not used on any other account. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 22:31, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Evidence against that user:
 * Multiple accounts of vandalism, provocations, and other disruptive activity (such as changing names of game concepts to variants only he uses; repeating the same baseless statements like "this name is not natural" in discussions)
 * Inquiring about anti-vandalism abuse filters during the vandal invasion in a manner which suggests he has triggered those filters, but no legitimate edits were affected by the filters;
 * Using the same misspelling of vandalism ("vandalizme") as the vandal;
 * Inquiring about Tor being blocked just after the extension was installed, the most likely way to find that out was to attempt to edit via Tor (and there was no legitimate reason to do that, his primary IPs were not blocked)
 * Then there's this: ru:Special:Diff/645051. Rough translation: "I found out something unexpected: even if substantial security measures are applied, the account will still be hacked because the hackers are using bots to instantly hack accounts regardless of their security measures." Some administrators believe this is convincing evidence of that his "hacking" claims are trolling.
 * --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 06:05, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * And now he claims that this message about hacking was written by hackers who hacked his account. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 08:49, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Changed the account password by 20 characters. Most likely, crackers will use more complex scripts for hacking. Rusy233 ms (talk) 16:48, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * To me it sounds as if to me, even if you are innocent, you are a liability. Do you have a little brother or something that uses your computer? If you can't deal with this problem I don't see what anyone can do but block you. The homophobia (which I have a natural bias against since I am bi) and seemingly personal attacks (it looks like Babylon and AttemptToCallNil are being targeted in particular) really aren't helping your case I may note. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 19:07, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Is there any kind of CheckUser process on Gamepedia? Because at least two Russian wiki administrators suspect that User:Vandalizme is a sockpuppet of User:Rusy233 ms, and that this user may be the vandal who attacked the Russian wiki in late November / early December. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 06:35, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It's pretty much just asking Gamepedia staff. You should be on the Gamepedia Slack btw, which is the best way to quickly talk to the staff. Babylon refused to join when I asked him long ago, but maybe you are less stubborn; it would be a lot easier to respond to disasters such as this if you were. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 13:50, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

I request a global indefinite block of Rusy233 ms and related accounts. Also, I have already sent requests to accept me into GRASP twice and I’m now on a line to join the Slack channel (also, why Slack, not Discord?). I’m determined to crush the Replicators in reach once and for all. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:19, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Handled via the RU wiki. --Pcj (talk) 16:16, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You forgot to set the email blocking option. Also, the Rusy233 sm and Vandalizme accounts are also to be blocked. And, a suspicious account Virys233 appeared yesterday, apparently impersonating VirysD25. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 16:23, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I will leave that to you. You need to unblock and re-block with the proper settings to get the global block to show up properly. --Pcj (talk) 16:43, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You've sent two applications and they're both on the books :P the staff have sort of taken the route of accepting GRASPers when they need them tbh you probably would have accepted you if you were on Slack, but because you weren't they don't really know you . Slack is being used over Discord mostly just because there's ~650 users on Slack and migrated them all would be difficult at this point. Also, the way they have it set up, the channels would be difficult to do on Discord. There's a hundred or so of them and the way Discord is, they'd all have to public, making it hard to navigate, or be private, making staff have to make a role for each channel in order to access it which would be complicated. -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 20:40, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * What are the complete requirements and procedures for joining Gamepedia Slack? Will I have to register an account somewhere else? If so, what kind of info do I have to provide? If I have to provide my real name, will it be publicly available? --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 06:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * All you need is to a email address and a nickname (no need to provide your real name anywhere). Your invitation should be accepted soon after sending it in (by Gamepedia staff, they just confirm you are Gamepedia user). More information can be found in here. piotrex43 (Talk page) 07:25, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * To clarify, Slack accounts are not shared among Slack communities, right? --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 08:42, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, you have to register at each workspace individually with an email address and password. I have a Slack account, but it doesn't allow me to login globally into Slack. So I guess they aren't shared, no, to my surprise I might add. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 08:49, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

A new abuse filter (ID 24) has been created specifically against the Replicators on the Russian wiki (the previous filter was revisioned as a general vandalism filter). But, the actions there are way smaller than on this wiki right now. I think that creating new abuse filters here should significantly help, as with the Russian section. And, of course, don’t forget to include “Rusy233 ms”, “Vandalizme” and “Alisa Selezneva” phrases into the filter should one be created here. I would like to personally supervise its creation (so it becomes compatible with the Russian filter) but I don’t have enough permissions, and I won’t have them even if I would be accepted into GRASP. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:11, 23 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Rusy233 ms and EnderMamix were previously temporarily unblocked as part of an experiment. But it didn’t produce any productive results, and they were reblocked again. The Replicators were last seen putting advertisements in their Curse user profiles, which again confirms their spam potential (see also an ancient topic). —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:04, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * And now the Replicators are again trying to do their typical activity (advertisements, complaints about innocence, reverts) although the scale of vandalism is now less severe because of a properly configured abuse filter, which also checks the summary (such a setting was successful in repelling the January 6 wave). —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 14:11, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Category:Pending deletion
Why there are so many pages in this category? -- Lxazl5770 zh.admin （ 论 • 功 ） 09:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Because the admins are not deleting these pages yet. I don't know the reason of admins why. – ITechieGamertce 10:05, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Most of the pages in the category right now are redirects tagged under one of the cleanup projects. It makes it a little hard to find the normal pages that need deletion. I am not very involved in that project so I am not sure if there was an ultimate plan for dealing with the redirects apart from manually tagging them.
 * As for the files, its mainly busyness. Files take a bit longer to review before deletion. – KnightMiner  · (t) 19:58, 10 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I can't speak for the other admins, but personally I don't patrol that category at all. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 10:50, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

User:Psl85
created Minecraft Wiki:Blocking policy and Minecraft Wiki:Warning policy with text slightly modified from Mario Wiki policy pages, and introduced these two local pages as if they were official policy. This user is neither a local nor a global administrator, and has made less than one hundred edits on this wiki (so they can hardly be viewed as a veteran editor). This user also was blocked for 1 month on November 7, 2017. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 09:47, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protect 1.12.2
The 1.12.2 page has been vandalized 9 times by IP addresses in the last 2 months, and another edit by an IP was not vandalism but was surplus/opinion, and was reverted as well. There was not a single edit by an IP on 1.12.2 within the last 2 months that was constructive and/or not reverted.-- Madminecrafter12 Talk • Contributions 18:20, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

please! 180.190.43.234 07:44, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * There has not been another case of vandalism after I requested page protection, but if there is one more case, I will notify an admin directly.--Orange Glazed Terracotta.png Madminecrafter12 Talk • Contributions 14:30, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Yep, there has been another vandalism edit. Could somebody please protect the page? It seems like there are very few administrators that have been checking the admin noticeboard lately, so unless the page becomes protected or an administrator disagrees about the protection within the next 3 days or so, I will contact an admin directly.--Orange Glazed Terracotta.png Madminecrafter12 T • C 23:50, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Iceberg
Repeated vandalism by multiple IPs (most of which are definitely proxies) replacing the redirect with a broken placeholder and reverting contributors. The page may need to be semiprotected. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 10:08, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Requesting block bypass
Hi there i need to change some links on https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Bedrock_Edition_server_software but i cant due to the filters i need nukkit.io to be changed to nukkitx.com because the IO website has been abandoned –Preceding unsigned comment was added by TheCreeperCow (talk • contribs) at 17:18, 26 March 2018‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with

A few changes to the rules pages
These thoughts went to my mind after the recent overhaul of policies and guidelines on the Russian wiki.
 * 1) Should all policy and guideline pages have interwikis? The style guide has them, is there some reason for the central rules page or the talk page guidelines not to have links to their counterparts on other wikis? If so, I would be glad to provide the links.
 * 2) When I was doing the actual update of policies and guidelines on my wiki, I felt that it is necessary to semi-protect the new pages, which AttemptToCallNil (the new rules’ co-author) agreed on. I suggest doing the same for talk page guidelines and style guide sub-pages, and probably for Standardized views too.

—  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) 13:28, 29 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Bumping the topic. —  BabylonAS</b> (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) 12:42, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Interwikis should be fine; I have no idea why they might not have been added in the past. Protection I don't think is really necessary unless one of the pages has been having trouble with vandalism; to my knowledge, though, none of them have. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 10:03, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Service error 500 on certain page edit
Somehow I'm unable to edit Renewable resource at all. I can edit my userpage, but this page (now) always gives a 500 error no matter what I do. I want to revert this edit, but I can't. I wonder if this is a problem specific to that page or more areas of the wiki, so I tried my own page but worked fine. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] 10:41, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * 500 errors/whatnot are being investigated. I have undone that edit through the "rollback" feature (if you can't undo something and rollback might work, ping me on Slack or Discord for quick assistance). -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 12:04, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 12:07, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, if only you were on Slack. We literately created a whole new channel called "server-error-rage" where the only thing we do is rage about 500 internal server errors.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 12:11, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Pages take very long to upload
Usually, when I edit a page, it takes several hours before my edits actually become visible in that page. This also happens to me when I edit other Gamepedia wikis such as the Terraria wiki. Does anybody know why it takes so long for my edits to appear? 194.251.17.11 16:04, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Persistant vandal on Tutorials/Units of measure, can it get protected
There is an ip that keeps changing information on Tutorials/Units of measure, me and several others have reverted the changes but they almost always made new ones after. Is there any way the page can get protected. jjlr (talk) 11:50, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Can't edit links of my own program
When trying to update the links for my own program (WorldPainter) on the Mapping page, I was unpleasantly surprised to be confronted with the following text: "Your action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. A brief description of the matched abuse rule for your action is: Global AF - New user adding link at end or in heading If you believe your edit was constructive, please post a message on the admin noticeboard or notify an admin directly." I believe my edit was constructive. How do I go about changing the links for my program on that page? 83.87.130.122 15:07, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Edits from IP addresses are necessarily suspect on a platform that is prone to spam / vandalism. If you create an account and make enough edits while logged in to that account to become trusted, then you should have no problem — Game widow (talk) 15:16, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright, I managed to dredge up my old Minecraftforum/Minecraftwiki/Curse/Gamepedia/Twitch/Whatever account and it let me do it. Thanks! I seem to remember that the reason I usually do this anonymously is that the sessions here were annoyingly short. Can I configure somewhere how long I want to stay logged in? Captain Chaos (talk) 15:37, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * At the rate such questions are asked, I think a mention in the noticeboard header may be beneficial. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 15:45, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I wonder whether it might be worthwhile to change the text of that notification. Telling legitimate users that their attempts to contribute are "harmful" might put them off, while malicious users won't care what you say. Captain Chaos (talk) 16:02, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It is difficult to craft a message that works in all instances and does not give spammers / vandals the information they need to defeat the filter — Game widow (talk) 16:19, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

My talk page
Why do ips keep creating my talk page?!--TheCreeperStrikes (talk) 15:21, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Spammers ? Children? Vandals ? People who just get a kick out of it? it could be any of those. Have you tried protecting it? — Game widow (talk) 15:23, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * i cant because i dont have admin privileges for protecting talk pages--TheCreeperStrikes (talk) 04:39, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Archiving
Guys, I'm only going to say this once: if a topic on this page is archivable, just archive it. There's no point in moving stuff to a "ready to be archived" section, and no requirement that an admin be the one to do the actual archiving. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:58, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I agree that there's not really any use of the "archivable issues" section - once an issue is definitely solved, there's no reason to keep it here; it just clutters up the page. So are you saying that we should go ahead and create Archive 30 and call it "Jan - May 2017" or something, move the existing archivable issues there, remove that section, and for future reference go ahead and add any solved issues directly to Archive 30, unless it's after May 2017? Or do you have another idea?-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 12:21, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * If all the discussions currently in that section were wrapped up in that timeframe, yes; otherwise the discussion should be archived to the appropriate-dated archive page. The only other suggestion I'd have about this would be to formalize what date ranges each new archive covers, and how long after the conclusion of a discussion to wait before archiving (my immediate thought would be three months for both of those, but there's no reason they have to be the same either). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 12:47, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Yep, we should archive this page. If anyone want's to continue their discussion, they should make a new topic in the new page.--Skylord wars (talk) 13:01, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I would suggest an entirely different archival method, as well as wiki-wide archival guidelines. However, this is beyond the scope of this page. I suggest creating a new topic at Minecraft Wiki talk:Talk page guidelines. For some reason, there were two archival-related proposals on that page, but apparently neither passed. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 13:02, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The only alternative archival method I'd suggest would be to have an archival bot automatically handle archiving pages. There are plenty of examples running on Wikipedia, many with public code that could be reused. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 13:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * What I meant was that instead of determining archivable topics by date range we would e. g. place a fixed number of topics in each archive (on non-user talk pages). I find substantial flaws in date range based archiving. I will explain further in my next post. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 13:13, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia generally uses size in bytes. Number of discussions is better than date range, but a single monstrous thread can still drastically inflate the size of an archive. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:35, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The original purpose of the archivable issues section was for me to separate them from the other issues, so that someone other than me could archive the bunch. I've learned a bit about the process now and I think I can do it myself as well when needed. But for now, I've kept the separation because the issues could not be/were not archived at once and I needed more tips about those dates to do the remaining. I agree the archives are not necessarily easily organized by date, because I'd ask myself a lot of questions before it's clear to me. Do I archive issues that were created or those that were updated within a certain date range? What about issues that were solved before but replied to after? Indeed what about thread length (mentioned above as well). Or issues that have not been marked as fixed/resolved but are indeed actually fixed? I had a lot of more detailed questions as well that I forgot, but simply put it was too much for me to just do myself. I really don't mind if we just archive the remaining issues now and break out the hard headers again, but I think we really need to agree to a set of rules and finalize them somewhere before we do. Currently the separation works for splitting the task of solving and archiving a subject between different editors (so I do think the separation is still useful to some extent). I really like the bot idea, but I don't know how they work and if they can follow the rules we'd set to the process. I'm sorry if it became unclear as to who should have done the archiving. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 10:38, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure, after my archiving edits got reverted, that what archive page the post should be archived to depends on is the date that the last comment was posted for that subject, even if it was after the issue was resolved (please correct me if I'm wrong). Honestly, I don't think we need a bot - I'd be happy to archive any solved issues, and some editors may be willing to as well. Unlike Wikipedia, we don't have a trillion issues that need to be archived every hour to prevent mass overload, so although a bot would be nice, there's no need to wait until we have a bot to start archiving.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 13:27, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Archiving should be done from date of last comment, yes. As long as we settle on a timeframe of inactivity past which sections get archived, it doesn't matter whether the section is marked as resolved (or even is resolved), since any section with a last comment older than the cutoff would be archived. And for unresolved topics that get archived, if someone wants to raise the issue again, they can either unarchive the section or just start a new one.
 * I agree a bot would be overkill for us on a single page, but if we used one I'd strongly recommend it handle archiving all talk pages on the wiki, rather than individual opted-in pages (though we'd also still want a mechanism for opting in, since e.g. this page is a discussion page which is not in a talk namespace, and we'd also want a mechanism for customizing the cutoff date and archive size, or even opting out of auto-archiving, e.g. to allow individual editors to control archiving of their talk page). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:13, 17 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, I've archived all of the archivable issues now (/Archive 30) but I will wait to remove them from this page until an admin adds the new archive to the header. For future reference, I would suggest lowering the header protection to semi- OR, better yet, has the archive nav on a separate page.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 18:46, 17 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Regarding the global bot. To keep track of what the bot should and should not archive, it could globally opt-in those whole namespaces that we know, like Talk:(main) and Talk:Minecraft Wiki for instance, and for those pages that need to be excluded from those global settings, get a tag on the page, e.g.  or , depending on whether it wants to add to or remove from the global setting of that namespace, respectively. But I'm not sure how bots work (efficiently). – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 07:58, 18 April 2018 (UTC)


 * As I've said before, bot archiving is largely a solved problem; there's little reason not to just adapt a Wikipedia archive bot with publicly-available code. In particular, for opt-in or opt-out of specific pages, we'd use something like wikipedia:User:MiszaBot/config. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 14:59, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protect page Update Aquatic?
This page keeps getting IP edits with the exact same unsourced (false) information about vulcano biomes, which different editors have reverted and it keeps getting back. No source is given, no explanation, and it's always a different IP. The involved ones are, and. They don't listen. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] 11:40, 25 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Re-protected. –Majr ᐸ <small style=display:inline-block;line-height:9px;vertical-align:-3px>Talk Contribs 11:45, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

User subpages don't redlink
For some reason user subpages don't redlink anymore—why is this? – Nixinova   07:39, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Am I correct to assume you're talking about links to non-existing subpages of a userpage? Like User:Jack McKalling/get to the chopper? I've noticed that too some time ago, didn't think of it. – [ <span class="gamepedia_pro_user">Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 07:50, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Simple edit - unable to submit
Trying to submit the new design for a clock circuit:

Dropper-Dropper clock
Simple design that does not require iron or pistons of any kind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJLxY6q7GxA

I understand the wiki has a rule that prevents new users from posting link. Please review the above edit and add to the "Clock circuit" page. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 103.10.197.194 (talk) at 12:33, 27 April 2018‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with

Global AF caught my constructive edit
I tried to edit Tutorials/Update_Java to reflect the current status of Oracle's Java versions. I got an error message telling me to post here: Your action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. A brief description of the matched abuse rule for your action is: Global AF - New user adding link at end or in heading If you believe your edit was constructive, please post a message on the admin noticeboard or notify an admin directly. --79.242.6.179 10:23, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Yep, that's the abuse filter. Can you tell us what edit you were trying to make? If you can, then we may be able to do it for you. This specific filter likely blocks all unregistered users as well as registered users who have not made 3 edits yet.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 12:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Three things, mainly:
 * I changed the terminology so that "development versions" (they're not really development vesions) are now referred to as "short-term support versions", same for "stable" and "long-term support versions".
 * The Java 9 download link is now broken because Oracle removed it from their downloads, so I removed that and added a Note with a link to the Java Archive, also saying that Java 9 is no longer supported, will no longer receive security updates and that Oracle recommends you don't use Java 9.
 * I cited the Java Archive page and the the page where Oracle lays out the End-Of-Life dates of Java releases.
 * Updated the latest versions to 1.8.0_172 and 10.0.1
 * The complete new wikitext that I tried to change it to can be found at https://pastebin.com/raw/4yG5vR4s --79.242.6.179 17:24, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Ninjaedited the above to include cited links separately because I feared the AF might catch my contribution to this page if I included all the links. --79.242.6.179 17:28, 29 April 2018 (UTC)  Ninjaedited the above again to include the "Updatedthe latest versions" because I completely forgot that change. Sorry! --79.242.6.179 17:40, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Reduce issues pages protection down to semi- and note on /video pages
I suggest that we reduce the protection on issues pages down to semi. Although usually these pages don't need editing, you really just never know. Specifically, many pages and files are being moved to more appropriate names, causing a lot of links to need to be updated. If semi protection doesn't work out, then maybe we can go up to full again, but I really don't think full protection is necessary anymore.

On a similar note, I suggest reducing the number/types of users that are affected by the AF on the /video subpages. The abuse filter is one of the areas of wikis that I'm really not knowledgeable in, but would it be possible to do something like only allow users to edit it only if they have made at least 200 edits to the wiki or something like that? I know there's some kind of filter that filters registered users that have made less than 3 edits from performing certain actions, which is why I would even think something like this would be possible. I'm not sure if it would be a great idea to allow any registered user to edit video pages, but if something like a minimum of 200 edits is possible, I think it would be beneficial to try doing that for the /video subpages and see how it goes.

Oh, and one more thing. Are we going to start demoting admins who have been inactive for over a year? This was discussed on the community portal talk page and has now been archived, and it seems like most of the community supported this idea, but none of the admins who haven't edited in years have been demoted since.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 02:32, 3 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't have much comment on the protections, other than to note that /video protection specifically is a policy that was put in place when Curse was still producing videos for the wiki, at their request; the edit filter is a natural extension of that policy. It is definitely technically possible to change it to only apply to editors with fewer than x edits, but I'm not prepared to do so without a comment from or another Curse person giving the okay.
 * The inactive admin demotion not happening yet is just because I haven't taken the time to write up a notice and drop it on admins' talk pages. If anyone else wants to do so before I get around to it, feel free, and drop me a list of notified accounts on my talk page. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * If a video is out of date, then whether or not Curse produced it, it is fine to remove — Game widow (talk) 11:54, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Please block 82.196.6.16
Persistent vandalism/Extremely disruptive editing on the Villager page. Something needs to be done about this user quick, as they will not stop vandalizing the page, which is why I'm pinging, , and , as they seem to be active with reverting vandalism and blocking users on the Minecraft Wiki.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 22:56, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Now vandalizing Enchanting. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 23:04, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * And Redstone circuit now. Probably one of the worst vandalizers I've ever seen.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 23:05, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, never mind now, it's already been taken care of - the IP has been blocked for 2 weeks. Thanks . :)-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 23:29, 5 May 2018 (UTC)