User talk:Talaysen

Server list removal
Dinoguy1000's reason for the list removal was "remove list again - this list has been abused the whole time it's been on the wiki, and it's not our job to maintain such a list anyways", which means it not only is a target for vandalism, but it was decided that such a list no longer be maintained on this wiki. While I do agree "strong-arm" decisions aren't normally a part of wiki maintenance, this list removal is excluded due to the reasons above. I have already posted on Dinoguy1000's talk page about this problem and will no longer revert your changes. 20:54, 9 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Where he says "remove list again" is a clear reference to the original removal, which was disputed by myself and several other editors.
 * While the current reasons may indeed be valid for removal, it certainly seems like a ploy to implement this very same change with minor opposition.


 * Abuse of this page is very minimal and as this is a frequently referenced, highly trafficked page, detection of any abuse is generally immediate.
 * I've personally removed two occurrences of "abuse", which were abuse in the most technical sense; Users creating sub-domains to cause their sites to appear higher in the alphabetized list.


 * I'm sure that the "vandalism" on this page is likely very minimal compared to other pages on this site. To remove a page simply on this basis, you may as well remove every page on the wiki, as I'm sure they are all periodically vandalized at some point or another.


 * By removing the list, you are forcing users to use an outside source (say, Google, or another search engine) to find information on the subject, making the page incomplete/lacking relevant information.


 * If a site represented in the list contains questionable content, by all means, remove that site from the list to protect users from said content.
 * If the site presents a list of servers (irregardless of how they are ordered or represented), it still meets the criteria for being represented on this page.


 * To make claims that one site or another is "superior" is purely based on personal perspective and does not represent the views of all users, or what would be considered to be "common knowledge".


 * At the very, very least, if you aren't going to represent the list of resources, there should at least be one option available for users to visit.
 * The original argument was that these resources aren't moderated (for content), and it was temporarily changed to only the Reddit MineCraft list.


 * Reddit may be moderated, but there is still often a host of objectionable content available on their site, regardless of the fact it may not be presented in the MineCraft category, it is still easily accessible.


 * If it were to become necessary to reference only one option, why not reference the MineCraftForums website's server board, as it functions as a server list and is the 'same team' as this wiki, and equally moderated.


 * My point here is, just because you disagree with the information provided, for whatever reason, doesn't mean the information should be completely removed.
 * Provide alternatives or solutions, instead of a lack of relevant information.
 * A user should not be forced to reference other resources or websites to get the same information that should be, and originally was represented on the page.
 * Talaysen 21:55, 9 October 2012 (UTC)