Talk:Powder Snow

Striders die by sinking in snow powder?
Striders die sinking in powder snow? It would make sense, but I have not been able to experience this, please someone verify to be able to put it in Trivia :) Ronyhd (talk) 23:42, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No, they currently don't do any damage or suffocation, though that might change – Unavailablehoax (talk) 23:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Obtaining
Can they be obtained using a shovel in survival? Tools don't normally give objects in Creative, so I thought I'd check. PegasusDust (talk) 00:52, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * They don't, and shovels also don't speed up mining speed, which is reported in, which I think is intended, but we'll wait and see when that gets resolved. – Unavailablehoax (talk) 00:35, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Snowier Snow
Can we confirm that powder snow is separate from snowier snow? I don't think the source cited is enough. Vu Bui's "also" could imply that powder snow would be the "snowier snow" released in addition to the goats mentioned earlier. It also doesn't seem likely that this wouldn't be the snowier snow, though I could see it as being one in a set. PegasusDust (talk) 02:25, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Until we get more information (that is, more betas or even snapshots adding these features) which confirm whether it is actually separate or not, I think for now it is best to keep what is there on the trivia, and keep the redirect Snowier Snow not deleted until further notice. Blockofnetherite Talk Contributions 02:55, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just found a [ Minecraft.net article] which says "Powder snow – our snowiest snow since sliced snow – is also making an anticipated appearance." "Snowiest snow" links to the Mountains Biome Vote video on the article. – Unavailablehoax (talk) 03:11, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Middle-Click
Can the powder snow block be obtained by middle-clicking? Like other survival-unobtainable blocks like budding amythist and the spawner. I know that it's not in the creative menu though. Humiebee (talk) 20:53, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * No, you cannot. If you try to do so, you obtain a powder snow bucket. – Preceding unsigned comment was added by ChainofNothing (talk • contribs) at 13:02, November 11, 2020‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with

Sounds
Are we certain that the sounds are labeled correctly? If I had to guess, the placing sound plays when the block is placed from the item in the bedrock creative inventory, while the bucket emptying sound plays when the player uses a filled bucket. I would also guess that the breaking sound plays only when the player attempts to break powder snow, not when it is collected with a bucket. I don't have access to the betas or snapshots, though, so I may be wrong.PegasusDust (talk) 23:03, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Bedrock currently doesn't use the new sounds, it just inherits the regular snow sounds. The powder snow block itself isn't obtainable in Java Edition, so it can't be tested. Both the and  sounds are played when using a bucket. – Unavailablehoax (talk) 23:11, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

I made a controversial edit to the "Freezing" section. Should we add it back?
I originally added this to the Freezing section: "sink in powder snow when wearing, which is also a bug" . However, this change is apparently controversial, as removed this saying in the edit summary: "Being reported on the bug tracker ≠ bug, it seems like a feature request. Also, they're not wearing leather boots, so it's not unintuitive and does not deserve a mention here IMO"

She isn't completely wrong, however, I believe that it should be added back for the following reasons: Overall, in my opinion, I believe that this should be added back to the article, as it is useful for any user who reads this to know that it is true that horses wearing leather horse armor currently do not sink in powder snow. Any thoughts? Blockofnetherite Talk Contributions 20:55, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) I do agree that "Being reported on the bug tracker ≠ bug," however, Mojang employee Thommy Siverman has marked the bug as "Confirmed" which means two things: 1)Thommy was able to reproduce it in a minecraft world and/or 2)Thommy looked at the code and noticed this bug. Because Thommy marked it as "Confirmed" and not invalid or WAI, this means most likely the bug is awaiting a fix, and is in fact, a bug.
 * 2) I believe it is useful for the reader to recognize that horses wearing leather horse armor do not sink in powder snow. I don't see a reason why the reader should not see this useful information.
 * 3) It is useful to acknowledge the existence of MC-205206, as it is related to powder snow.
 * , slightly leaning towards your side due to the fact that a mojang employee put it as open BUT pancakeidentity's edit summary is very convincing, it could go either way.Humiebeetalk contribs 23:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , as long as it is confirmed as a bug. If they are intended to be able to walk on powder snow and avoid freezing when wearing leather armor, and if a Mojang employee has confirmed that fact, then it should be reported as a feature that does not currently work. The argument that this sounded like a feature request would not apply in that case, as it was not reported by a Mojang employee as such. If, however, I misunderstood this situation and the employees who work on bug reports have not yet decided whether this is a bug or feature request, then my previous argument is invalid.PegasusDust (talk) 23:26, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

A different proposal
It appears that another Mojang employee, Adrian Östergård had resolved the bug as WAI, so because of that, I plan to add this: "sink in powder snow when wearing, which is intended"

I know my first argument about a Mojang employee confirming it is now invalid, but my second (It is still useful information) and third (The fact that MC-205206 should still be stated on this wiki, even if WAI) arguments are still standing. Now that this is working as intended, I am planning to add it, just changed it to observe that it is working as intended. Any further thoughts? Blockofnetherite Talk Contributions 16:49, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , leather horse armor is NOT leather boots but it does cover the horses feet, idk.Humiebeetalk contribs 21:41, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Entities or only mobs?
As I test, items, boats, armor stands don't take damage while in Power Snow. So should "When an entity is inside a powder snow block, they will begin to freeze, taking damage" be changed to "When a mob..."?--GTA6v1 (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Bucket Clutching in Nether
I tested the powder snow in the Nether when I was playing on the snapshot, and you can use it in the same way you use a water bucket when falling. I was surprised it didn't melt or just disappear next to lava. It isn't advised to put the powder snow from the bucket directly in lava.

Renewability
In the current beta, 16.210.54, powder snow is not renewable in Bedrock Edition. It can be placed and picked up with buckets, but cauldrons left outside only fill up with snow in Java Edition. Therefore, renewability is a Java Edition exclusive, though this will likely change in a future beta. I figured I should put this here, since renewability is a subject that has been argued over a lot recently. If anything I have said needs correction or clarification, please add it below. PegasusDust (talk) 20:08, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Powder snow unobtainable via creative inventory in BE
Powder snow isn't obtainable through creative inventory anymore Bedrock_Edition_beta_1.16.210.53, but I'm not allowed to change it anymore soooo... MetalManiac at your service fellow human! (talk) 16:21, 17 February 2021 (UTC) Oh and can you add this too please to trivia? : * Powder Snow is present in the Bedrock Edition 1.16.200 full release, though it can only be obtained through add-ons. MetalManiac at your service fellow human! (talk) 16:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Ambiguous re: damage to fire-related mobs
The section "Fire-related mobs like striders, magma cubes, and blazes take 5 (2 1/2 hearts) from freezing" is ambiguous: Is this a one-time damage, or is this damage over time? If the latter, at what rate is the damage applied? Memetics (talk) 16:15, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Merge
I think this page should be merged with Powder Snow Bucket. Glow Berries and Cave Vines are also one page so why should these pages be seperate.