Talk:Bedrock Edition

Move
Should we move this to Bedrock Edition? It's basically done and that page is needed. – Nixinova   05:07, 15 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Personally speaking, a place for information about yourself is not the best place for an article’s draft. —  BabylonAS (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 16:57, 15 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, feel free to move this to Bedrock Edition. I only put it on my userpage because the whole edition-renaming thing hadn't started yet and there wasn't enough info about what was happening to officially make a page for it yet. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 18:03, 15 August 2017 (UTC)


 * – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png Grid_Map.png 04:17, 17 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, now I can't access my userpage because it redirects to Bedrock Edition. How do I fix that? SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 15:07, 17 August 2017 (UTC)


 * . --Pepijn (talk) 15:23, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

What's up with Apple TV not currently being considered "Bedrock"???
Currently, Apple TV is listed as an upcoming platform for Bedrock Edition. This makes no sense. Apple TV isn't currently on some kind of "legacy Pocket Edition" or something. Minecraft on Apple TV has always been on the same codebase - the Bedrock codebase. Saying that it currently runs Pocket Edition is incorrect. Pocket Edition was never officially the title of anything but Pocket Edition, which was Bedrock on Android, iOS, Fire OS, & Windows 10 Mobile. The naming across the wiki should reflect this. Anything Bedrock-related should use the name Bedrock regardless of whether it refers to pre-1.2 or not... UNLESS the content is specific to the actual Pocket Edition. There are several examples of incorrect splitting of "Bedrock" & "Pocket" info, when really they should both be "Bedrock". One such example is the existence of both https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Pocket_Edition_version_history and https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Bedrock_Edition_version_history ...these pages need to be merged. Bedrock Edition existed before the 1.2 update... if this is being done to signify the "Minecraft: ___ Edition" -> "Minecraft" name change, then it doesn't make sense. Minecraft Bedrock was using the Bedrock naming since at least 1.1 officially. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 22:32, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


 * It simply hasn’t been updated yet. Also, if you say it was using the Bedrock name from 1.1, then why was the namesake not updated in a 1.1.x update? -BDJP (t 22:34, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


 * You're confusing the "Minecraft" rename with the "Bedrock Edition" name, which by the way, IS NOT an official subtitle, but a made-up one based on the official name of the codebase... the Bedrock Codebase/Bedrock Engine. Apple TV Edition was never referred to as running Pocket Edition officially. I once complained about how the Pocket terminology was being incorrectly used on the wiki to refer to everything using the same C++ codebase. This problem still exists in some places even now... for some reason the "Pocket" naming stuff is being used in some places as the name of things pre-1.2, but not all things. This makes no sense. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 22:41, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Speaking of "official subtitles"...
"Java Edition", "Legacy Console Edition", etc. have all been italicized everywhere in this article. That makes sense for Java Edition and the other ones that are actually used as subtitles, because the names of works are italicized. But it doesn't make sense for a lot of them, e.g. "Bedrock Edition", which is not an official subtitle. It also blurs the line between actual product names and names we use for convenience when referring to all implementations from a particular code base. Isn't that what Helen Angel was trying to get us not to do? --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 03:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, you're right. Instances of the term "Bedrock Edition" probably shouldn't be italicized. What about "Legacy Console Edition", though? Should that be italicized? That one is more of an official title than "Bedrock Edition", but it's not really the name of any single product. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 04:07, 5 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I guess it depends on how and how much Microsoft is using it publicly. I know Helen has used it in streams, but is it published anywhere? If so, we probably should italicize it [edit: or follow Microsoft's styling if it's published in prose form] . Otherwise, just use your best judgment. Or you could ask Helen, since you have somewhat privileged access. --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 05:19, 5 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I asked, and Helen said that "Bedrock Edition" and "Legacy Console Edition" shouldn't be treated as official titles, so those two shouldn't be italicized. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 14:53, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * It happens I'm trying out some changes in the Exclusive template right now. It would be easy to modify it to follow this same styling, and it might be a way to discriminate the product names from the non-product terms, which is what Helen wanted when she asked if we could use Minecraft (Bedrock). That might make everybody happy. --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 15:01, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * That sounds like a great idea! I just went through updating a bunch of pages to try and make all instances of official game titles italicized and de-italicize instances of Bedrock Edition & Legacy Console Edition. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 17:31, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * The sample template is up for discussion. --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 18:28, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Where do these minimum Android version numbers come from?
There was recently an edit to Pocket Edition by an unregistered user:

https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Pocket_Edition&diff=next&oldid=1157235

I knew this couldn't be right, because I had run Minecraft Bedrock on devices running older versions that 5.0... and then I realized I was running 1.2.3 build 1 on a device running 4.1.2. Both Pocket Edition & Bedrock Edition have 4.2 listed as the minimum Android version since July 29, 2015. Obviously, this information must be incorrect. I can't really contact the unregistered user about the "5.0" addition, but who added "4.2" and where did they get that info??? Is the 3.0 requirement even correct? SuperGeniusZeb (T▪C) 20:17, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't really know what the "Released" part of the info box is meant to report. You seem to be assuming it's a minimum OS version number, but that isn't the only interpretation, is it? But even supposing it is the minimum version, it's not uncommon for apps to be tested only on the latest version, so even though it may run on 4.1.2 it may not be officially supported on that release. The app store should show the minimum system requirements; what does it say? That's what should be shown here, I would think. --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 21:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)"
 * Never mind, I realized right after I posted this that it's not available on the app store any more. --– Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 21:24, 8 October 2017 (UTC)