User talk:BabylonAS/Archive 1

Templates in signature
Just a note, your signature should not contain templates, unless they are substituted. See the rules. --KnightMiner  (t 15:42, 5 September 2014 (UTC)


 * The signature editor did automatically substitute the template. The signature entry has . Also, it does fit into the character limit of 250 characters.
 * P.S. I may need to change my Russian signature due to this.
 * -- 16:23, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The Russian template is requested for deletion, while I've designed a navigation template for talk pages...
 * -- 17:13, 5 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm refering to your use of ItemLink, EntityLink --KnightMiner  (t 17:39, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, I shall change the signature like I did with the Russian one.
 * But I still have checked the size of the signature template page. It is <250 even with the category setting.
 * By the way, I discussed my Russian signature with a Russian contributor by the name of Dand0 and I found out that the rule about using templates in signatures doesn't exist in the Russian wiki.
 * There is the Dand0's quote from a Russian talk page, translated by myself:
 * "I shall tell something: When the wiki (not only ours) about Minecraft only started to exist, Russian and English wikis about Minecraft were different, because our wiki was made by Minecrafting community, while who made the English wiki - I don't know. Rules of ours were made by HEKP0H, Teksel and probably Norrius (I hope you know who he is), but who made rules for the English counterpart - once again, I don't know. Only when projects started to know each other, contributors started to just add interwiki links. Nobody wanted to change the rules. Then, they merged into a single domain (English wiki was www.minecraftwiki.net, while we had a "ru" sub-domain (i.e. ru.minecraftwiki.net)), and later we've incorporated into Gamepedia, but because then-administrators declined (the reason is written below) to change the rules, no longer anyone wanted to change them. Since the creation of rules by the users listed above, they didn't change (however GreenStone replaced a letter "е" with an "ё" in a word). But, if we copy rules from the English wiki, "some" pages will be deleted, some - "a bit" changed, but this is the labor of users (e.g. pages about NEI and TMI). And at all, some wikis must be different from others. If a wiki is in the same domain as another, it doesn't mean that they must be identical."
 * "I shall tell something: When the wiki (not only ours) about Minecraft only started to exist, Russian and English wikis about Minecraft were different, because our wiki was made by Minecrafting community, while who made the English wiki - I don't know. Rules of ours were made by HEKP0H, Teksel and probably Norrius (I hope you know who he is), but who made rules for the English counterpart - once again, I don't know. Only when projects started to know each other, contributors started to just add interwiki links. Nobody wanted to change the rules. Then, they merged into a single domain (English wiki was www.minecraftwiki.net, while we had a "ru" sub-domain (i.e. ru.minecraftwiki.net)), and later we've incorporated into Gamepedia, but because then-administrators declined (the reason is written below) to change the rules, no longer anyone wanted to change them. Since the creation of rules by the users listed above, they didn't change (however GreenStone replaced a letter "е" with an "ё" in a word). But, if we copy rules from the English wiki, "some" pages will be deleted, some - "a bit" changed, but this is the labor of users (e.g. pages about NEI and TMI). And at all, some wikis must be different from others. If a wiki is in the same domain as another, it doesn't mean that they must be identical."

- Dand0


 * The link to the Russian (!!!) discussion. If you don't know Russian language, then assist with a translator.
 * --Regards, Naista2002 (RU T C) 08:11, 6 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I did check the russian wiki's rules, and they are somewhat different than here, so that signature would be fine on the Russian version. The main reason we have that rule here is to prevent some issues with template caching, since signatures get used a lot more than most templates. --KnightMiner  (t 16:43, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note that I first made an edit in this, English, wiki, despite me being Russian. --Regards, Naista2002 (RU T C) 17:04, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * "Unofficially, usage of templates in signatures is prohibited, with the exception of . And we're still different wiki projects, even if it at first glance isn't seen."

- Ivan-r


 * But still, we're able to use grid images instead of these templates. See also Munin's signature - which inspired to use these templates. – Naista2002 ᐸ Talk Contribs  18:13, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

How to add an interwiki to a talk page?
Sorry if I made unnecessary edits to this page, but I want to know how to add an interwiki to a talk page.

–Regards, Naista2002  ᐸ Talk Contribs 13:55, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Why do you write it to your talk page, not Community portal or Admin noticeboard? --Dand0 (talk) 14:04, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. –Regards, Naista2002  ᐸ Talk Contribs 14:13, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Typo in URL to Redstone Simulator
The right link is «mordritch.com/mc_rss» —Dand0 (talk) 18:24, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Unfortunately you can't edit that page due to protective magic. — Naista2002  ♦ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 05:05, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Redirect links
Hi Naista, I've noticed that your bot is correcting redirect links, however I would just like to point out a part of the style guide you may not have noticed.

"Linking to a redirect is preferred over using a piped link except in templates and other pages that will be transcluded. When a piped link is unavoidable, it should not point to a redirect. If a redirect can be avoided using a suffix on the link, that is preferred. E.g. Using  instead of   is desired."

As was discussed here, simply bypassing a redirect causes wikitext clutter. Therefore, allowing names with two words to be redirected should be left as is. Also, your bot should not be redirecting to disambiguation pages. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs Edits 11:25, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was just testing my bot. I want for it to also fix interwiki links, but I get error messages every time I try. -- Naista2002  ♦ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 11:35, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I just remembered something: the poppy link in Tutorials/Iron golem farming's intro. Would it be worth to change  to   or  ? -- Naista2002   ♦ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 12:00, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * If it is still going to be a redirect to the same page, there is really no need to add a display name. Poppies is sufficient. –KnightMiner  (t 01:35, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations! you have a new friend! I give you a chocolate. Laura Fidalgo (Talk / Contribs)  14:21, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Laura, that's a bottom side of a daylight sensor. :) Thanks anyway! -- Naista2002  ♦ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 14:48, 24 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Make a better congratulations message for level 70. Laura Fidalgo  (Talk / Contribs)  21:32, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

About rollback
Why did you import Majr's script, that let's give a rollback description, though you are not administrator? --Dand0 (talk) 15:16, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe I wanted to try. -- Naista2002 Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 15:17, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, that "let's" can be written without an apostrophe, so "that lets give...". -- Naista2002 Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 15:18, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * To be an administrator? --Dand0 (talk) 15:23, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No, how it works. -- Naista2002 Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 15:24, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, I again misunderstood you. --Dand0 (talk) 15:25, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't note something. A user had that script installed, and he/she was not an admin. See: User:Bunny365/common.js, User:Bunny365. -- Naista2002 Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 16:33, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Show me any rollback by this user. --Dand0 (talk) 17:16, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like not... Sorry for bugging you much. -- Naista2002 Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 17:22, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Replacing redirect links
There's really no reason to replace the links to flowers, we have redirects. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 10:23, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I know. I just want to be more consistent with the style guide.

"Linking to a redirect is preferred over using a piped link except in templates and other pages that will be transcluded. When a piped link is unavoidable, it should not point to a redirect. If a redirect can be avoided using a suffix on the link, that is preferred. E.g. Using instead of   is desired."

- Style guide


 * -- Naista2002 Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 11:43, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * It's only transcluded pages where redirects actually have a negative effect. The style guide's wording is a bit strong in regards to piped links and using suffixes and is more talking about making new links. The ever so tiny extra perf you get from avoiding a redirect is void if you do an edit just to get rid of it, as that edit is way more expensive. Redirects should only be "improved" (I'm not going to say corrected, as redirects are perfectly correct) on non-transcluded pages while already making an edit to do something else. The style guide might need some better wording in that regard. I might even learn towards using redirects over suffixes,  is slightly more easier to read than  . –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 12:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Majr@undefined This edit would prove its worthiness over time. Some users would follow a new link, which makes less server load than a redirect. -- Naista2002 Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 17:32, 15 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Saving an edit is so much more expensive than going through a redirect that it would take a quite a long time before there is a net benefit. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 08:52, 17 November 2014 (UTC)