Talk:Minecraft Wiki/editcopy

It says that the latest update for Xbox was in 2014!
Please change it! –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.119.16.131 (talk) at 9:06, 11 February 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with

Why do people never change the fact that minevpcraft is in 1.8.2- pre6!
It's pre-7 now! 37.123.181.63 19:37, 16 February 2015 (UTC)


 * It is not the worst thing in the world if the wiki takes half a day to update the version. The version currently can only be updated by administrators, so it may take a bit before one logs on and changes it. – KnightMiner  (t·c) 19:54, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Outdated MediaWiki version
221.221.218.180 09:57, 14 March 2015 (UTC) about this wiki: Is this wiki's format of all the pages compatible with the latest MediaWiki? if it is, then update plz
 * Sign your comments after their contents.
 * You should've been asking it on the community portal's talk page.
 * Differences between 1.23's and 1.24's page formats are miniscule (notably ! being implemented into the core), there are mainly performance fixes in 1.24.
 * Ask a Curse employee (email support@curse.com) to get info on their plans on updating MediaWiki.
 * — NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 10:51, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Gamepedia updates on every uneven release, wait for 1.25. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 11:00, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Outdated Snapshot Version
It's still got 15w32c as the 'most recent' snapshot, instead of 15w33b. I don't think it's due to the bugs supposedly present in 33b but not 32c, as it's meant to be 'most recent', not 'most bug-free'.

Link to 'correct' (as of 13 Aug 2015, 10:00 pm AEST) page: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/15w33b 60.225.155.8 12:02, 13 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The list has to be manually updated, and to reduce vandalism, an administrator has to do it. They are normally watching the main page talk pages, so one should update it shortly. (if not, feel free to post on Template talk:Version or the admin noticeboard.) – KnightMiner  t/c 14:28, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

New stone background headers
What is the consensus on the new stone background for the headers on the main page? It's been sitting around on the edit copy for a while, so if there is enough of a consensus from this discussion we can bring the changes over to the main page. Personally I am in favour of the new design. (see this discussion for the original discussion for this change) –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 05:26, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Assuming votes are accepted: . --GreenStone (judge me) 08:28, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * For the most part, people were split between keeping the old blue and using a Minecraft texture for the boxes (other than stone; dirt, planks, and the Minecraft menu button texture were mentioned).
 * As for my opinion: after looking at it again, most grey textures make it a bit monochromatic (as the color provides a good focal point). I like the look of birch planks the best in that reguard, as they are both brightly colored and have a not too contrasting texture, though their color stands out a bit too much from the background and fixing that would require changing the page background color or using an unnatural plank color. The third texture to concider is the menu button when selected, which provides a nice blue color, though we would need to change the CSS a bit to get the shading on the bottom right, or else we would restrict the size of said headers. – KnightMiner  t/c 18:25, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Looking at the Korean Minecraft Wiki, the grass block texture does not look too bad (the green grass part produces a lot less contrast with the blue, and makes the brown seem a bit lighter), though it is quite a bit darker than the current box which would require the font color to be changed to white. – KnightMiner  t/c 01:52, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I like the grass block better too. The random grays of the stone texture blur the text in my vision, and the grass block is the iconic Minecraft block. &mdash;munin &middot; Book and Quill.png Stone Pickaxe.png &middot; 01:59, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I also think that the Korean header version is great. I don't see a reason not to use the grass block texture. Adapting the CSS should not be a big problem since there are only two lines of code needed to be changed. Using the blue Minecraft button is a good idea too, but would be way more difficult to implement using CSS. | violine1101(Talk) 20:34, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I just implemented the grass texture from the Korean wiki. What do you think? | violine1101(Talk) 16:15, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I like it, though the image will need to be made a bit taller to make it work with our usage on the community portal (basically just extending the dirt farther down, and possibly tweaking the black gradient) – KnightMiner  t/c 20:39, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Korean wiki admin Alswo96284‎ came up with a solution which he posted on the German wiki too. It uses "stacked" backgrounds. See here (latest posts are in English) for CSS and a browser compability check. | violine1101(Talk) 18:32, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Comparison / diff between this and the main page
I saw that one editor had installed a diff between this and the main page in the header of this editcopy, but another editor reverted it several times, deeming it irrelevant, superfluous, unneeded...

I personally thought it was a helpful thing to have. It seemed very relevant, because part of maintaining an editcopy is to be aware of the difference. Also it wasn't superfluous in my mind because I hadn't seen such a thing on the page before. I would like to see it added if people don't mind. – Sealbudsman talk/contr 23:01, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

June 26, 2014
Why did you change the data in the historical record? 54 million copies have been sold as of June 26, 2014, and not 107 million. http://i.imgur.com/VPhQyEV.png http://i.imgur.com/E5xZVAt.png MailGik ([//minecraft.gamepedia.com/User_talk:MailGik   ]) 00:26, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

The New Nintendo 3DS Edition
The Main page says that the New Nintendo 3DS Edition is on 1.12.2, but 1.12.2 is the Java Edition. Maybe adding a new version into the list. It will be something like Skylord wars (talk) 14:34, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Editions template
The editcopy looks very strange. There is no main version, and instead the original one looks better. It also consumes a lot of space.--Skylord wars (talk) 12:37, 27 April 2018 (UTC)


 * MS seems to consider bedrock to be the main version, and since it has the most platforms regardless, it makes sense to give it a full row. It also uses less space on larger screens, and is the same on smaller screens. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 13:30, 27 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Just a note: Per, Microsoft's official position is that there is no "main version". And unofficially, they're working toward a more complete degree of parity between Java and Bedrock than we've seen so far, more than I think most people realize, so ultimately the hint of a distinction will all but vanish anyway. But I agree that the page's format is appropriate for the other reasons you cite. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 16:26, 27 April 2018 (UTC)


 * As I stated a while back, I think that we could (and probably should) add the other launcher versions (There isn't just one of them; there are separate version numbers for the Windows, Mac, Linux, and legacy launchers). If we're going to justify the spam from lots of very similar versions as a reason to reorganize it putting PE on top, then probably those should also be listed too.  But as such, I  the current reorganization, with minimal justification on my part. --Pokechu22 (talk) 05:49, 11 May 2018 (UTC)--Pokechu22 (talk) 05:49, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Other launchers can be added (probably don't care about the legacy launcher, unless it's still being updated). As for "spam" from bedrock platforms, what do else can you do? They're distinctly separate programs, often running different versions (as is currently the case), either due to a version only being released on some platforms, or it just taking longer for an update to be approved for some platforms. With Java, the platforms are identical. They run exactly the same jar file, so simply can't have different versions, meaning there's no need to display the platforms separately. Even if we did (maybe it's easier to show additional launchers that way), the amount of platforms is only the reason to move it to its own line, having it at the top is simply because it's more popular, and it also happens to fit nicely with the current layout. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 03:45, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I do have another suggestion. Since most users of Minecraft are mobile users, they are likely reading the mobile version of the wiki. Mobile view is different from desktop. Why don't we just use the original format, but instead switch places between Java and Mobile? Skylord wars (talk) 04:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Because then Java is taking up a whole line, or being squished by Bedrock, wasting space. It's also difficult to have different content on mobile without duplicating stuff, so it's not really practical. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 05:22, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I mean, the new Nintendo version can be placed with education edition since both of them takes less space. While Java Edition may have it's won space.--Skylord wars (talk) 01:50, 2 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Giving Java its own space (presumably meaning a whole row) would just rearrange whitespace. I don't see how that's any improvement. In fact, I don't see why improvement is needed in the first place; if it were I'd expect to see more comments here, with stronger arguments than that it "looks very strange" (a matter of personal taste). How about we focus on improving informational content and organization rather than worry about picayune details of layout? – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 07:03, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Discuss here first before you destroy my icon design
Lê Duy Quang (Make some words | Contributions) at 3h49:25 | 12/11/2018 (UTC)


 * I liked the old revision better, the one that Giorg and Nixinova restored it to that is. It is the correct format for the sake of this wiki, looks cleaner and nicer imo, and is supported by the style guide. As always, your good-faith efforts are appreciated, but you haven't actually provided reasoning as to why you think your preference is better; perhaps you could enlighten me as to how a tiny little date format change "destroys all of your design goals?" Thanks, -- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 04:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I didn’t destroy your icon design just by changing mm/yyyy to yyyy-mm. Just because Greece and Vietnam use dd/mm/yyyy doesn’t mean you should use that. The style guide (I even provided a link for you) says that date formats should be written as MMMM DD, YYYY or yyyy-mm-dd (always with two digits for day and month). Actually read that before reverting mine and Nixinova’s changes again. --Giorgosarv18 (talk/contribs) 11:03, 12 November 2018 (UTC) removed on 14:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Then whatever. I won't debate with you more just to take the flame into myself, and I'm damn tired of my work not being at least a bit appreciated as it supposes to be. NOW GO DESIGN YOUR OWN ****. Lê Duy Quang (Make some words | Contributions) at 13h27:26 | 12/11/2018 (UTC)


 * I understand your frustration, but please do calm down. You know that "NOW GO DESIGN YOUR OWN ****" is not acceptable. Wikis are a collaborative effort; anyone can edit other's ideas and build onto them, as long as it improves the encyclopedia. You know that your work is appreciated; I appreciate it, and the fact that other users are adding onto it and editing it show they appreciate it. Your ideas are currently in the editcopy; literately the only difference previously was a tiny little date change to comply with the style guide and make it look nicer. How did that destroy your entire work? If it did, I'd be happy to work something out, but to me it doesn't appear like it did hardly anything to your work. You haven't provided explanation as to why you think your way is necessary or why changing the date format destroys the hard work you put into this (which you definitely did put hard work into this), so none of us know how we can work something out at the current moment. I would love to discuss this some more, but please, for the sake of the wiki, remain civil.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 13:40, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

iteface
it will be great if we can add the nether/upcoming events /update interface Mofleet (talk) 04:47, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

interface and home
maybe we can add the nether / upcoming updates in the upper of the home Mofleet (talk) 04:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Gamemode icons
Should the gamemode icons match the (relatively) new icons for the gamemodes in the gamemode switcher added in the nether update? i.e. Grass block for creative, iron sword for survival, empty map for adventure, and eye of ender for hardcore? Just a thought, as I tried to do it and it didn't work, so I didn't save the changes. -FezEmerald (Talk to me|See what I've been up to) 03:13, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Education Edition
This wiki needs more support for Education Edition-related pages. It should also be considered its own game in the "Games" list, plus have its own unique background like the other games. Book and Brook (talk) 09:35, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Not really as it's technically another edition, it's called Minecraft:Education Edition ---HumiebeeDiscuss anything with me Look at my edits 02:28, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * True but on minecraft.net if you hover above games it says minecraft, minecraft dungeons, minecraft earth and Minecraft Education edition. also updates about education edition appear on education.minecraft.net instead of minecraft.net.--Minecraft loot (talk) 20:50, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Thoughts on a potential new introduction text?
The current introduction text is very long and has, in my opinion, quite a bunch of unnecessary facts in it that are not interesting to someone who would like to be introduced into the game. Also, some things are horribly outdated, for instance the Pi Edition as well as the Legacy Console Edition are in focus; both editions aren't actively developed on anymore.

We have changed the introduction text on the German wiki quite a while ago. This is a machine-translated version of the current one: (I couldn't be bothered to translate it myself) "Minecraft is an open-world game created by Markus Persson and developed by the Swedish game company Mojang AB. The whole world – a landscape with mountains, rivers, seas, forests, deserts and other landscape types – consists of blocks which the player can take away or place as he likes. So you can change the world according to your own ideas, create paths, cities and harbours and create fascinating buildings – either alone in single player mode or together in multiplayer mode. There are also different game modes that emphasize different aspects of the game.

Minecraft in the Java Edition for computers with Windows, macOS or Linux operating systems can be played free of charge in demo mode or purchased for 23.95 €. Once the game has been purchased, you can play in multiplayer mode and create as many worlds as you like. There are also other Minecraft editions for various mobile devices and game consoles, all of which must be purchased separately.

The development of Minecraft started on May 10th, 2009. The official completion date of Minecraft 1.0 was November 18th, 2011. Shortly afterwards Markus Persson handed over the development to Jens Bergensten and dedicated himself to other projects. Since then, the game has been constantly developed further. By October 2018, 29 million copies of the Java Edition had been sold, making it the best-selling PC game of all time. By the end of September 2018, all Minecraft editions had sold over 154 million copies. In addition, there are 100 million downloads in China."

- Translated using deepl.com

This is of course only one possible text that of course still could be improved upon (it only mentions Java Edition, and it only mentions the price of Java Edition in Euros). But the main question is, should the introduction text be changed at all? What should it contain? | violine1101(Talk) 23:31, 3 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I agree that there doesn't need to be nearly as much text about the history of different versions, especially the discontinued ones. There's also way too many links in the "about Minecraft" section; for example, stuff like "sandbox" and "Android" probably don't need to be linked to. There could also be a bit more information on what a wiki is and how to contribute to it, though I'm not sure how that should be phrased. There is currently a link to Minecraft Wiki:How to help in the very top section, but I doubt most people will notice it with all of the other links on the main page. – Sonicwave talk  19:34, 8 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Agree with that, the introduction text should be way shorter. Also, with more place on the main page (just under the introduction for instance), we could implement the Trivia idea some people talked about on Discord at least. This section would display random facts about Minecraft (both about the franchise and the gameplay itself). • Yanis48 (talk) 19:52, 8 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The intro text should definitely be shorter, but what would take its place, in order to balance out the columns? – Nixinova Nixinova sig1.png Nixinova sig2.png 05:44, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Depending on how much it gets shortened, perhaps we could move the "Did you know" section into the left column instead of having it be a separate row? – Sonicwave talk  21:22, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I've made a page without the discontinued versions and moved the DYK into the left column. Is this better? – Nixinova Nixinova sig1.png Nixinova sig2.png 03:55, 1 June 2019 (UTC)


 * It seems better than the current version of the page, although I still think it's too long. Maybe the historical information shouldn't be on the main page at all for simplicity's sake; it's already mentioned at Minecraft, which links to individual edition pages. I'm not really sure how to balance the columns if it gets shortened further though. – Sonicwave talk  06:40, 3 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I on the fact that there is no need for historical information as it's useless for newcomers. Take an example, the  What is Minecraft page on Minecraft.net only briefly explains the gameplay and important stuff for newcomers.-- skylord_wars (talk) 07:21, 28 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I made a rough mockup of a new main page at User:Sonicwave32/Main_Page. Basically, the intro sentence is reduced to two short paragraphs (which might be a bit too short), and the "Did you know" is moved to the right of it, with the "Play it" section underneath. I'd welcome people to give feedback or make edits to it. – Sonicwave talk  18:14, 6 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I'd say that the introduction text is enough, but could be improved. I don't have any feedback at the moment though. Also to revive this conversation, I've made some pretty significant changes to the "Play It!" section on Sonicwave's. I made it so that the edition boxes are going to flex with different screen sizes. While not directly related to the shortening of the introduction text, I've also added some links for Minecraft Earth and Minecraft Dungeons articles. Any thoughts? – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 05:49, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I'll attempt to apply the changes to editcopy soon if no one objected. From there, further changes must be performed on the editcopy instead. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 04:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

How to comment properly on this wiki?
We haven't used this wiki much when speaking of accounts, but we do want to help people in the 'Talk' pages. So we've tried to commenton someone's post and it turned out as a really horrible-looking reply. Plus we can't get rid of the thing that says "You recently worked on an article. Would you like to save your changes to your friends?". So yeah, we need a bit of assistance. Book and Brook (talk) 13:14, 8 August 2020 (UTC)


 * First, wrong place for this type of question. You should have asked in the community portal, as was stated in the yellow message box when you edited this page.
 * To answer your questions, see the talk page guidelines, which was also linked in that yellow message box shown when editing this page. – KnightMiner  t/c 21:14, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Add New Edu release to recent news
Can someone please add that education edition 1.14.31 was released on recent news?---HumiebeeDiscuss anything with me Look at my edits 23:25, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * also plz add MCE:0.23.0 for minecraft earth.---HumiebeeDiscuss anything with me Look at my edits 02:17, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You can propose changes to the main page on the /editcopy subpage. – Unavailablehoax (talk) 12:01, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Remove the hyperlink to Minecraft's Mixer channel.
Mixer is currently closed completely, and thus the Minecraft Mixer channel should be gutted from the main page. --DiamondIoanX (talk) 07:30, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I [ proposed it] on the /editcopy subpage. – Unavailablehoax (talk) 12:12, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * by Sonicwave---HumiebeeDiscuss anything with me Look at my edits 19:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

This page STILL needs to update it's version
The front page STILL doesn't have a link to Java Edition 1.16.3 Release Candidate 1. I don't know why, but it has been a while since this page has updated. Is there some reason behind why it isn't there, or has it simply not been added yet? Blockofnetherite Talk Contributions 02:54, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's added by FPv, updating now.  Nixinova   T   C </b>  03:14, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Hasn't been updated yet?
The main page still hasn't been updated with the iOS 14 logo, and Java Edition 1.16.3 on the recent updates section, which has been out for a week now. – Unavailablehoax (talk) 07:50, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) If the main page is updated with the iOS14 logo, the file will have cascading protection so a new file would need to be uploaded.
 * ---HumiebeeDiscuss anything with me Look at my edits 19:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Simplify Bedrock Edition platforms
Bedrock Edition platforms on the main page was mainly to represent previous editions such as Gear VR Edition, Fire TV Edition, etc. However with the introduction of Bedrock Edition, Gear VR I don't think is related to– let's say a platform. It is quite ambiguous on how we define platforms, but mostly they are used to represent OSs. Which comes to my previous statement, Gear VR is pretty much a device and not an OS, so is a Fire TV. So should we remove them from the list?

For additional information: Yes, I do realize that most of them came with their own store, perhaps we can separate store links into its own section. (please note that I'm not familiar with any of these devices.) – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 17:35, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * To add more insight, I just realized that Gear VR and Windows 10 Mobile are discontinued. So removing them would not cause much of an issue. This discussion will be just about Fire TV now. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 17:47, 26 September 2020 (UTC)


 * on removing discontinued platforms at the very least. -PancakeIdentity (talk) 02:57, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Add links to "sister" wikis
I think we should include links to the Feed the Beast and Minecraft Servers Wikis. It would help bring new contributors, especially to the servers wiki, and those looking for mods (because we used to host pages about them) would be able to access the mod pages easier. Fadyblok240 (talk) 02:45, 30 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The links section already contains a link to the FTB wiki. I would not be against including other English Minecraft Gamepedia wikis in the links section though. Make an edit to Minecraft Wiki/editcopy to propose your change. – KnightMiner  t/c 15:54, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Merge this talk page with the talk page of the editcopy
The Main Page of the Minecraft Wiki has an editcopy for all editors (and possibly all readers) to propose changes to the Main Page. However, the editcopy has a separate talk page, which doesn't make much sense since the editcopy is (almost) identical to the Main Page. To centralize discussion, I think we should merge the talk page of the editcopy with this talk page. The archives will be merged first. Fadyblok240 (talk) 03:19, 20 October 2020 (UTC)