Talk:Book and Quill/Archive 1

Capabilities of books beyond what can be created in-game
A user has repeatedly been removing evidence that books can be edited to contain more than 50 pages, more than 256 characters and 13 lines per page, colored and formatted titles, custom player names (also with colors and formats), etc. These are all properties which a book in vanilla Minecraft can have, but they require an editor such as NBTedit to be created. A vanilla Minecraft player may encounter books like this in adventure maps, or on multi-player servers, and they will work as my screenshots have shown. Moxxy has insisted, however, that this information should be excluded from the article, simply because a vanilla player cannot create the books, disregarding that they may still encounter them.

If this is a sort of standard the wiki community wishes to set, then fine. But please be consistent about it. The article on signs provides evidence that signs can have colored text, even though this requires mods/programs. The article on snow mentions that snow can actually have varying height, but that this does not occur in singleplayer Minecraft without mods or editing (I myself have encountered varying-height snow on servers in the past, and I was playing vanilla). The article on slabs shows a special doubleslab which requires mods/editing to insert into the world. The map article mentions the zoom level property of maps, which is unused in vanilla. Grass makes prominent the existence of a third grass type, which resembles dead shrubs but cannot be obtained without mods/editing (again, I have witnessed it playing vanilla on servers before). All pages of blocks mention the unused, unobtainable Locked Chest.

Now, do tell me, why is it that this information on books must be removed, when all that other information can stay? If you want this information removed, you ought to remove all of that information as well, to keep this wiki consistent.

Or, you could acknowledge that this information is relevant to vanilla players, because they could very well encounter it themselves and wonder what is going on. Then we'll have people re-adding information in a far less organized and informed manner than I have, with trivia sections such as "sometimes a book can have a colored title on some servers. it is not known why this is" or "some adventure map makers may get famous people, like notch, to write books for their maps". Honestly, I fail to see why that is preferable to what I have contributed. --WolfieMario 03:42, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It occurred to me, after writing this, that the /give command can also be used to obtain the special doubleslab, unused grass, and no-longer-used locked chest. Note, however, that there is still no vanilla way to get colored sign text, varying-height snow, or maps with different zoom levels. --WolfieMario 04:14, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

how do you change the colors and such?
I've got a mac and Idk how to get the "section operator" key. Is it the same as & ?
 * On a Mac, the § character is accessed on the keyboard by pressing Option-6 (or Alt-6). Unfortunately, Minecraft does not accept this character directly.  Instead, press Option-6 in TextEdit, then copy/paste the character into the game.--Inertia 20:38, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! works just fine now and I can make So. Many. Books. : D
 * How do you make that on a PC? Cobalt32 03:52, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Crafting image is incorrect
Anyone know which image is actually supposed to go there?