User talk:KVKConsultancy

Alphabetic Lists
Regarding your edits on the backup utilities page,

The minecraft wiki's standard is to organize lists in alphabetic order, not in most recently updated order. You are trying to force your personal preference on everyone without consent of the community as a whole. Anoymous712 23:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Orthope, how is DropCraft coming? Secondly, Anonymous is not a memeber of a community! At best Anonymous is part of a crowd. It is not I that is doing the forcing. I have been happily cooperating with other people CONTRIBUTING to the page (and most notibly have not had complaints from other authors).

Whilst some people seem to be hiding behind Anonymous logins to keep their significantly alphabetically named offering at the top.

Happily tho I have community respect. I'm pretty sure their aren't too many people named Anoymous with tremendous public respect.

--KVKConsultancy 07:53, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I am not the same user as Anoymous712. I am also not the author of DropCraft; if I were, it would be kept up-to-date. -- Orthotope 10:09, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * So its just a amusing coinicidence that your so concerned to alphabetially sort the Backup Utilities list. Yah.. right. If it looks like a fish, swims like a fish... its probably a shark.

Whatever though, people can judge for themselves. To give you the very best benifit of any doubt you must like to interfere where you have no interests nor are directly contributing. Focusing on the positive, most users of this Wiki change pages when they have something to add or when they make something new).

--KVKConsultancy 13:30, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

A pointless debate
Anoymous712 is just a username. Everyone is equal in the wiki. Your words have affected my feelings greatly. You have no right to insult other users.

Anoymous712 13:50, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems that my more than 400 efforts to imorove the wiki has all been in vain. Anoymous712 13:57, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Isn't it funny how A search for Anonymous712 turns up "Internet Marketing" as the 4th link.

I would not like to upset of insult any person and I wish you the very best and hope that your productive efforts reward you and bring joy into your life and of those for whom you care.

I have not said anything offensive, or tried to offend, I have mearly prehpas pointed out some uncomfortable facts.

--KVKConsultancy 14:21, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * "Anoymous712" is his handle here (Note: Anoymous, not Anonymous). I've seen his work and know him to be a respectable editor trying to maintain the quality of this wiki. Searching Google for "Anoymous712" gives his Minecraft Wiki userpage as the third result (the first two results being for a youtube user which appears to be him as well). He is in no way an "anonymous user", such as those who have no account and sign with an IP address. "KVKConsultancy", on the other hand: I haven't seen but one mainspace edit from you which wasn't about mods in some way, and many of those were promoting your own mod. That's not being a part of this community, that's trying to own a page. (inb4: I know that I haven't established any sort of reputation here yet, since I've been editing anonymously until yesterday. In looking through the community portal to familiarize myself with how things work here as compared to other wikis, I came across your issue, and that's how I got here. It seems you neglected that step: learning the rules of the wiki. But then, I don't care to get involved in your debate about alphabetization) In summary: this wiki is a community, and you seem to have a skewed view of how that works. Please refrain from insulting community members (and yes, "anonymous users" are members of the community as well)... it's really in your best interest to remain civil, anyway, if you want people to support you. Happy editing! --timrem 18:47, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, I want to appologise to Anoymous712, your username was confusing to me.. Also it came after 2x true anonymous users undid posts I made. I stand by what I said but I am sorry I mistook your name and I hope you will understand. I am agravated here by points I make below. Like I said above, I bear no ill will towards yourself or any other user.


 * 1) I have offered no insults to any members. The fact your claiming I have is liable (check your facts). Here is a summary of what I have done: The user (and yes, sorry for not seeing the mispelling) Anoymous712 states he felt upset by my stating that anonymous is not a community member etc. I stated this because in recent times on this Wiki, anonymous or IP users have on several occasions undone postings I have made mear moments after I posted them in an unhelpful manor and without maintaining the content. I therefore have a negative view towards such Wiki contributors. I have questioned the motives of one particular member, Orthope.


 * 2) I have no interest in "owning any page" (possbily with the exception of this one since its associated with my username).


 * 3) Its funny how so many people care to be involved with something they all confess to have no involvement with. Troll?


 * 4) I read the Wiki Rules carefully when I joined. Thank you.

I have never been anything but Civil. I have though been "ordered around", told things "authoritively" which cannot be found within the rules, had changes reversed and seen people reportedly with no involvement (read there not providing any new contributions or partaking in the section in question) make it their business to "govern" and "control" the content generated by people who do contribute.

Please stop implying i'm insulting other users. Thanks. At this stage, I think im done here.

KVKConsultancy 22:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)