Talk:Pocket Edition v0.12.0 alpha

Ocelots
People keep removing ocelots. What's unclear? Isn't there an image in the picture? 71.212.10.80 02:35, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Where has Mojang said ocelots will be in 0.12.0 specifically, rather than in a future version of PE in general? — Orthotopetalk 02:47, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * How else would the picture show up? 71.212.10.80 03:09, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Developers frequently post pictures of things which are not planned for the next update, it is often because it is a concept that not finished developing, but they are proud of what they have so far. See mentioned features for many examples.
 * Also, this is the wrong page for the version. If it is to exist later, it must be at the title "Pocket Edition Alpha 0.12.0" as per MCW:STYLE – KnightMiner  t/c 03:24, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Um....
There are sources that clearly state some stuff that could possibly be in 0.12.0, and AFAIK, there was no edit-warring going on at all. Literally, the page protection and redirection to Planned versions was pointless and complete cobblers. BDJP (t 23:40, 21 June 2015 (UTC)


 * There was a slow edit war, with at least five instances of this page getting created and redirected.
 * As for the actual page, I also don't see why it has to be redirect to planned versions, as according to the general notability, it only needs several sources of features in the update (which it has). I would agree with reimplementing this as a planned version article, and linking it from planned versions – KnightMiner  t/c 23:50, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

New stuff for 0.12?
So I just read _tomcc's latest tweets and he tweeted initials of some things that are going to be in the update, as tweeted here, which I've tried to decode below:

- N = Nether - O = Ocelots - P = Potions - FP = Flower Pot - H = Hunger - C = Cauldrons - E = Ender pearls - CS = Control Support - A = Anvils - S = Soul Sand

G is a typo so don't ask what that one means.

Anyways, I think it might be necessary to add what I've just listed to the 0.12 page? --MarioProtIV (talk) 13:54, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * It would be speculation; we do not currently know for certain what any of these could be. However, he did comment that 'G' is 'Golem'. -- Illidicia ( t + c ) 14:00, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh, so would it be fine if you put "Golems" in the addition section of 0.12? --MarioProtIV (talk) 14:07, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Only admins can edit the page. – LauraFi -  talk  14:26, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I have added golems to the page. Please don't add the list above of letters as it would constitute speculation. I have also allowed registered users to edit the page again, although should there be further counter-productive editing it will be locked again. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 01:59, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Horses
I don't know why people are removing horses. In the video when he was holding, it was actually a horse spawn egg. Keep a close eye when he is holding something. Jg11817 (talk) 21:18, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

It is because at approximately 9min and 9 seconds He taps it and it says cave spider spawn egg. The camera he was recording with didn't differentiate color quite correctly. -AMAN4700

0.12 features in articles
Although there haven't been any development versions of 0.12, we've seen numerous physical working demonstrations of people playing on 0.12 through the windows 10 surface tablets at Minecon. While this hasn't been fully released to the public, are we able to add these 0.12 features to articles marked as upcoming? I think the physical nature of the demos, being more than just features in development and only known to the developers, means that it's unlikely that these features will be removed from 0.12 in the future. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 02:26, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * While demos may exist, I am inclined to wait until a public release is available, until then anything shown is basically the same as when a developer shows a video or animated GIF of the new feature working. While it may be highly likely that it is coming then, it still could be removed at a later time, and users on the wiki still would have no way of using those features. – KnightMiner  t/c 03:26, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I understand where you are coming from, but in the case of Pocket Edition they are simply porting features that already exist from the PC version, unlike the PC version where they are often experimenting with new features, and anything can change at any time (especially when a developer changes their mind). I completely agree that none of the 1.9 features should go onto any of the pages, but for the PE 0.12 the developers are not going to take anything out of that already existing demo. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 13:05, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. Many of the features are experimental/in development, and it may not possible to optimize them for Pocket Edition in the timeframe of 0.12.0. This has occured several times with the development of previous versions (observed with features only showcased by public screenshots, gifs, ect., much less the version used by the developers - a concern expressed above by ). – Illidicia ( t + c ) 21:36, 7 July 2015 (UTC)