Talk:Minecraft Wiki/editcopy

Jinx and Thinkgeek links
I definitely disagree. Neither of those are Curse or Mojang related. All Minecraft merchandise directly from Mojang is at https://minecraft.net/store, unless you can prove those two sites are also directing revenue to Mojang and/or they approve. Otherwise, it's just random advertising to list them. 17:34, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Uhm... wow... nevermind. Looking for some mention of these two sites, I actually looked at the product links on their store page. I'm stupid. Don't mind me. *whistles*  03:21, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Current price
First of all, Raffox97, a price change is not a useless edit. Secondly, 007a83, minecraft.net/store still says €19.95. Please provide a source for €20.56. 16:36, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Minecraft is sold in USD. Check the store. and The USD is now worth more than The EUR. --007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 21:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * http://i.imgur.com/SSabSPp.png --007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 21:06, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Looked at the HTML code. GBP=17.95 USD=26.95 EUR=19.95. I will look in depth more next time. --007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 22:18, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I was actually not aware the prices were there in the code for the page. I used several random European proxies to verify the price, but I guess having them there is the easiest way to display them based on the IP of the visitor. Also, Minecraft is actually sold in EUR with the GBP and USD being manually set by Mojang based on the conversion rates last time Minecraft's price was increased. Think of the EUR price as the default price they went for. This is one of the reasons why USD is in parenthesis on the page with the other being consistency to the USD conversion for Microsoft Points further down.  04:40, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I checked a china proxy, The default for everywhere else is EUR. Have not checked a place like Canada to see if they are shown USD. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 17:03, 12 May 2013 (UTC). Please sign your posts with
 * Canada is shown the price in USD, and should we post the GBP price? --007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 17:18, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Microsoft Points Image
What do you guys think of "1600 Microsoft Points ($20.00 USD)" --007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 21:35, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * - Personally I think that it's a bit unnecessary. The symbol doesn't really add much. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs Edit count 06:03, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Changed to "1600Microsoft Point.png ($20.00 USD)" The symbol is well THE Dollar sign of Microsoft Points --007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 07:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Is now "1600Microsoft Point.png (US $20.00)"--007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 21:49, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The image is too blurry and poorly aligned. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 00:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The image is free to edit. I would love to see some pro work on it.--007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 06:30, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The bigger problem is that the image means nothing to everyone who isn't familiar with the Microsoft Points symbol already. Without the text, it's confusing for too many people; with the text, it's redundant and doesn't add anything. Also, compared to a good-resolution version of the logo (such as wikipedia:File:Mspoints.PNG), this tiny image is barely recognizable even for people who know what it represents. -- Orthotope talk 07:11, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That is the same image used in the microsoft marketplace. and by hovering over the image it says Microsoft Points.--007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 02:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Can some one please edit the image and make it better. It can work. it just needs work I am unable to do.--007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 23:38, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

expanding reddit links
Since reddit.com/r/minecraft has been included on the main page; I propose we add links to platform specific communities within reddit, since there are two substantial communities currently operating (one for MCXBLA and one for MCPE) and one smaller one for Pi Edition....

I think it'd be nice to pull the 'reddit' link - create a new section within the official links page titled 'Reddit Communities' which would include the following links:

http://www.reddit.com/r/minecraft - PC version

http://www.reddit.com/r/MCPE - PE version

http://www.reddit.com/r/minecraft360 - XBLA version

http://www.reddit.com/r/MCPI - Pi version <- optional due to its significantly smaller size

/r/minecraft360 has seen participation from /u/4JSteve - QA Bug Tester @ 4J Studios relating to upcoming features and confirming bug fixes as well as utilizing community participation for assembling bug lists for the last title update.

as well, /r/mcpe has seen participation from /u/jbernhardsson - mojang developer working on Pocket edition - regarding upcoming features / bugs and bug fixes, etc.

reddit account confirmation for reddit.com/u/4jsteve :

https://twitter.com/4JSteve/status/320483596093759488

reddit account confirmation for reddit.com/u/jbernhardsson :

https://twitter.com/jbernhardsson/status/292733913334423553

unerds 21:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Heres the one for the Xbox One. http://www.reddit.com/r/minecraftone --007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 21:30, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

"Minecraft Wiki" logo
The "Wiki" in the box below is slightly of center on the vertical axis. --5ives 00:11, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It's exactly 5px from either side. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 00:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I think he meant the word "WIKI" inside the MCPE-esque box below the word "MINECRAFT" isn't vertically centered, which it isn't because of the angled perspective of the box. I don't see anything wrong.  01:06, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Header
I've changed the header up a bit since there is already a lot of boxes on this page, so now it's styled more like an actual header. If this is agreeable I'd also like to take the opportunity to move the logo image over to the main page as well. It's been there so long that the original discussion has long since been archived, so I think it's about time it got added. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 00:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Can you remove the line that is under "The official resource on everything Minecraft."?--007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 06:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Why? It's the same line used on headers. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 06:54, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * because it looks like double because of the boxes below.--007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 02:30, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * This is what the page would look like if the image size was 400px: File:Minecraft_wiki-editcopy_400px_logo.png--007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 03:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * We can't make that header too big. The ad space above already pushes the page down, don't make the header push it farther than it has to be. Also, don't throw images into a talk page, link them, unless absolutely necessary. An image smashed into the middle of a topic screws things up.  03:50, 18 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Forgot about ad's, My Virus program thinks there all viruses .-. --007a83 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 05:22, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

New Header, some other changes
Hi, maybe you noticed the edit which added a new header and the changes in the boxes below. The idea comes from the german Wiki and we want to change this. But the Main pages of the different Wikis should look similar. So we present our idea to the english Wiki, which has the biggest community and sets the standard for the layouts of the other Wikis. Changes: 1. At the top there is now a new header with information about the respective Wiki. The text can be copied from the page Minecraft Wiki:About. As you can see there are links to the content of the box Wiki community. At the moment they are the translated links of the german box "Wiki community". But every Wiki should customize their header to their box. Beside every link there are pictures of Items which fit to the respective link. We would replace the old header with our new header. We think, that we don´t need two logos of the Wiki. On the top left corner there is already the Minecraft Wiki Cube. 2.Because of the new header we don´t need the box Wiki community any more. So we would split the overcrowded box Updates, news and events to a box News and events and another box called Development. The advantages: We can display the news and events in a better (clearer) way. Another point is that we have more space for the Version history and Upcoming features. These changes would tell the user more about the Wiki, offers important links on a better seen place and prevents overcrowded boxes. What do you think about our suggestion? --.zip de.MinecraftWiki-Admin talk page 22:33, 7 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I actually like the look. It could definitely use a little more tweaking though, and more people should take a look at it first. As for the logo thing, we do have File:Logo2.png that matches the new logo that finally got to the front page. It took quite a bit for the logo to make it to the front page since most of us weren't sure if it would be accepted, so I don't know if we'll ever get the blue logo changed, especially since Curse defines it as the main logo. I have custom css that alters the top left logo to that Logo2.png as well as a browser extension that forces the favicon to that. I personally like it better than the blue cube.  23:19, 7 July 2013 (UTC)


 * So, two problems I have with this: 1. Takes up too much vertical space, there's plenty of horizontal room that should be used. 2. The icons don't seem very relevant. What does a compass have to do with a community portal? What does a pickaxe have to do with help? Unless more appropriate icons can be found, I'd rather there be no icons at all. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs 05:57, 8 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Do we even need all those links? Community portal, admin noticeboard, wiki rules, help contents, and recent changes are all in the left sidebar, create account is at the top of the page, and general disclaimer is in the footer. -- Orthotope talk 07:06, 8 July 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not so much about efficiency as it is about making sure the, uhm, average user gets the point. We can worry about redundancy only so much before some people seem to miss things. I personally like the idea of those links being almost the first thing the user sees if they come to the site not following a direct link. It's not like we're throwing them into some header that shows on every page. I think the yellow box I threw into the talk pages is mostly redundant, but it felt necessary to try and deter useless posts. There's also plenty of other links that have been on the front page for a while that are also on the sidebar. It's not that bad of an idea to make parts of the front page a stylized version of the sidebar. 07:15, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * @ultradude25: The community portal is a page where the most important links are provided and the users can orientate. Because of that we chose the compass as image. The pickaxe is a tool which helps the player and the help:Contents page does this, too. That were our thoughts. @Orthotope: We also had the discussion about links which appear more than once at the Main page. But is it a disadvantage to have two or three identical links on the same page? The Main pages job is, to lead the users to the pages they want to see or such which are important for them. So we think that two links are better than one in the sidebar, which can easily be overlooked. The new header will be seen by every visitor of the Main pages. --.zip de.MinecraftWiki-Admin talk page 10:56, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I made some changes at the header. With some display settings the header looked very messed up. If the header was displayed in the right way before my edit shouldn´t made noticeable changes.--.zip de.MinecraftWiki-Admin Diskussion 18:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


 * "Display settings"? –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs – 00:45, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * For some reason Chrome failed to render the multiple columns. — Hower64 06:10, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Safari had the same issue, though it looked fine in Firefox and Opera. Interestingly, OmniWeb (WebKit-based) rendered the text in multiple columns, but not the icons. The pure CSS approach is cleaner, but it needs to work in all the major browsers. -- Orthotope talk 06:35, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * What about the other multi-column lists on the page? Does Chrome and Safari fail at those too? –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs – 06:39, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

No, those work fine (once I stretched the window enough to get multiple columns - your monitor must be huge); it seems that specifying the number of columns is where they have issues. -- Orthotope talk 07:49, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Just standard 1080p, I'd even call it a bit small by today's standards. –ultradude25 ᐸ Talk Contribs – 11:28, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * What is your opinion about the design now? Can someone take it to the main page? Suchti talk EMail 10:35, 27 July 2013 (UTC)