Talk:Amethyst Shard

Block of Amethyst
The crafting table currently shows the Block of Amethyst recipe twice. I can't remove the duplicate myself. 02:58, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * , was caused by a duplicate page (Amethyst Block) – Unavailablehoax (talk) 04:34, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Possibly not Java Esition exclusive
Why is this marked as JE exclusive when i think it will be added to Bedrock before the full release?--Soulkeeper (Talk | contribs) 17:16, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


 * That's typical. I think that the protocol is that we're not supposed to create a page for a feature until it appears in a development version, and it is supposed to say it is exclusive to one edition until it is added to the development versions of both. PegasusDust (talk) 17:31, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Description
I have noticed that there is little description about amethyst shards being related to amethyst apart form a miniscule mention. I would like to see a mention of budding amethyst in the first paragraph please. 2.26.132.149 16:30, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It definitely seems worth mentioning that they naturally generate on budding amethyst inside geodes. When I have time, I'll check a few other pages to find consistent wording. I'm a little curious about whether crops or spawners will be closer. PegasusDust (talk) 04:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Renewability
Can someone explain amethyst shard/cluster renewability to me please? I feel like I'm missing something obvious here. Can they grow on other blocks? I want to learn, not troll. --80.189.149.84 13:03, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It's because budding amethyst blocks have a chance to spawn a new amethyst bud, which eventually grows into a cluster that can be broken into shards. Amatulic (talk) 14:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This is the bit that's confusing me. The renewability of buds and clusters depends on the availability of budding amethyst blocks. If one were to destroy all of these blocks (which admittedly would take an obscenely long time) the supply of shards will eventually run out, right? --80.189.149.84 18:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Technically, yes, but from what I can remember this is true of all renewable blocks and items. If one were to destroy all water blocks and buckets but one, water would no longer be renewable, for example. Stone and cobblestone were also renewable before lava was, as another example. As long as there are some blocks or items that can continuously produce a block or item so long as they are intact, that block or item is renewable. Amethyst shards are renewable, even though budding amethyst--the block they come from--is not. PegasusDust (talk) 21:01, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This is why I detest that "renewable" parameter in the infobox. There was consensus in the past to remove it and instead rely on the article body to explain renewability, but nobody has gone through the effort yet.
 * There are different flavors of renewability. Many things are renewable because you can get them from mobs. For example, iron ingots are obtained by smelting iron ore, but iron ore isn't renewable, so once you've mined the last iron ore, there is no more, ever. However, iron ingots are considered renewable because you can get them from killing an iron golem and occasionally from killing zombies. Coal is also technically renewable because you can get it from killing wither skeletons, but it is not practical to do because you'd have to face all the dangers in the Nether just to get coal this way. Saplings are renewable because you get them from breaking leaves of trees, and they would still be considered renewable even if wandering traders didn't exist to buy saplings from. However, if you destroy all the trees without collecting the saplings, then saplings become unobtainable, just as amethyst shards would become unobtainable if you destroyed all budding amethyst blocks.
 * There are nuances and variations to renewability, and that's why I dislike the binary yes/no parameter in the infobox. Amatulic (talk) 23:03, 23 May 2022 (UTC)