Talk:Red Sandstone

Better with sandstone?
Sand and red sand are in the same article, and this block is basically the same as sandstone, including all the crafting recipes. Would it be better to merge it with the sandstone article? --KnightMiner  (t 14:33, 6 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty unsure. They are pretty much the same thing, except for data values, crafting, history, texture, etc. but it would significantly lengthen the article. - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 20:53, 7 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm unsure as well. Similar to sand and redsand which was already combined together, sandstone and red sandstone should also be written in the same page. However it is a little difficult to edit 6 items in the same page and it's also a little messy to read. As a translator who works for Chinese Minecraftwiki as a volunteer, I'm also waiting for the result of the discussion in order that we can start our translating work earlier. HurryPeng (talk) 05:43, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I think they should be merged. Red Sandstone is simply a subset of Sandstone, a variant found only in mesas. Both pages are virtually identical, in both descriptions and the crafting recipes. Therefore merging the pages would be good for the sake of clarity and organization. Having two separate pages just takes up space, when a reader could more clearly identify and learn about both types if they were on the same page, with little to no drawbacks. I approve of merging these two articles, and I will gladly help if that's the case. --108.40.188.72 07:24, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


 * For the most part, the two are not used in any of the same recipes, which most other merged articles have (wood planks can all get used in the same recipes, and sand both make glass and tnt). Also, since there would then be so many variants, the article may just get crowded and have inconsistent trivia/history. Also, don't forget to check here. --KnightMiner  (t 16:59, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Still not sure, it doesn't feel right to have Sand and Red sand to be on the same page but Red Snasdtone and Sandstone on separate. It doesn't seem right to fork into an odd number of articles. - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 17:33, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I myself am still unsure, but Chinese Minecraftwiki has already decided to separate the two pages. HurryPeng (talk) 05:02, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Should be merged with sandstone
Both share the same ID, and they are therefor technically the same block. All the recipes are also the same, so I believe that the two articles should be merged. Clone200 (talk)


 * They actually do not share the same id, but the rest is the same. (did you notice the other post?) --KnightMiner  (t 15:20, 6 August 2014 (UTC)


 * . Sand and red sand don't have any variations. Sandstone and red sandstone do. This is similar to how the stone variants each have their own article, but the polished versions don't. Also, red sandstone doesn't generate as part of desert temples or villages. —F‌enhl 15:27, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
 * —  Itouchmasterpro  d  c 15:49, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
 * ., can you fix the link to your user page in the signature to be User:Itouchmasterpro instead of Utilisateur:Itouchmasterpro? Also, wants to answer. -- Naista2002  ♦ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 12:26, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ya, I forgot that Red Sandstone generates only in Mesa caves, but is it so hard to write this in the article?. Yes, they have different IDs, but does it matter to a normal player and why it can’t be written in header, in the “ID” section? They have the same mining speed, the same texture, the red have the same texture, but red colored and the only exception is Decorative Red Sandstone, that has a Witch face, while the yellow one has a creeper one. --Dand0 (talk) 12:34, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * They both are solid, both aren't transparency blocks, both’s blast resistan is 4, both’s hardness is 0.8, both are not renewable, both are stackable into 64, they both need any pickaxe, they both have the same crafting and the same crafting recipe for stairs and slab, both have the same data values and data states (prefix “red” is added for the red one). --Dand0 (talk) 12:42, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I disagree. : We should merge Stained Clay with Hardened Clay because they have the same blast resistance, almost the same texture, tool, etc.? I don't think so. Laura Fidalgo  (Talk / Contribs)  20:02, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Stained clay and hardened clay have majorly different obtaining, and only hardened can be used to craft stained, so that is a completely different case. –KnightMiner  (t 03:31, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Is is really that hard to combine/bad looking? The two blocks, apart from different generation, are the exact same block. –KnightMiner  (t 03:31, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, you're right. But I still disagree. Laura Fidalgo  (Talk / Contribs)  13:14, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not good with English “Crafting usage” system, therefore I ask, if it is possible to make crafting usage look like I did (crafting sandstone slab and red sandstone slab combined)? dand0 (talk) 13:09, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It is possible, by combining the recipes on the Stairs and Slab pages. –KnightMiner  (t 14:56, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Different blocks must be documented each on its own page. Exceptions are similar blocks such as all 3 variants of yellow sandstone, and granite and smooth granite, but never red and yellow sandstone. -- Naista2002 ♦ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 12:57, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * -JEC 6789 (T 13:24, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Arguments? dand0 (talk) 13:39, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Normal sandstone and red sandstone have many differences, for example, red sandstone only generates by mesa caves, and normal sandstone generates in many places (e.g. desert villages). Red sandstone and normal sandstone also don't share the same id (24 for normal sandstone, and 179 for red). -JEC 6789 (T 13:54, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Will be written in “Natural generation” section.
 * Technical data may be one of the criterions, that influences at separating or combining articles, looking into non-technical parameters, they have not much difference.
 * Sarcasm? dand0 (talk) 14:07, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * 1. Okay, I guess it could, but I still disagree with merging the two pages.
 * 2. …
 * 3. No. -JEC 6789 (T 14:33, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Of those supposed "many differences" why does everyone only list the same two? Different data values and different generation. Are there any others people wish to state, or should I assume there are only two differences?
 * As for different blocks being documentated on different pages, what about fences, doors, trapdoors, and fence gates? the difference between those is identical to the differences between these (data value, difference generation)
 * –KnightMiner  (t 14:56, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * And then, I agree. Laura Fidalgo  (Talk / Contribs)  15:25, 3 November 2014 (UTC)