Talk:Prismarine

Shouldn't all the variants be on the same page?
Prismarine, dark prismarine and prismarine bricks are all variants of block 168, with no relevant differences save texture. Why does each have a separate page right now? Cultist O (talk) 21:50, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * There are a few schools of thought. In contrast to those who find it nice to group blocks with the same ID, there are others who would group them more closely to how they would be encountered in the Creative Inventory.  Also there are relevant differences:  prismarine, dark prismarine and prismarine bricks are all crafted differently, in a more differentiated and unique way than say, the stairs or the stained clays are all crafted differently. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) (talk) – 22:07, 18 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Right, I guess crafting is a relevant difference, but we group sandstone types and stone brick types together, even though they are crafted differently. I just think it should be consistent. Cultist O (talk) 22:15, 18 June 2014 (UTC)


 * On Talk:Wet Sponge, I explained why throwing these articles together is problematic even for the sandstone types and stone brick variants. The same applies here. —F‌enhl 05:06, 19 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright, it's clear that this is a broader discussion than just these few pages, I think we should tackle it from a wiki-wide perspective, we need to decide where we draw the line, and stick to it, splitting or merging pages which fall on the wrong side of said line. Cultist O (talk) 20:03, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll just throw in my own Opinion - which is all it is, of 1 - here, about some of the interesting differences, between Blocks. Some come-from Mobs (Slime Balls, Prismarine Shards), others re-constitute from a lesser-amount, created when the Same-Block, as previously -present, is-destroyed (Glowstone -> Glowstone Dust -> Glowstone, but Redstone Lamps, etc. items too; vs. the-similar Guardian-types /Sea Lantern -> Prismarine Crystals -> Sea Lantern). And while some like Slime Blocks are still technically a Storage Block (like Smelted /otherwise-already -Mined, Ore types, can have), Prismarine is one-way (like some kinds of SandStone, or most Stone variants). And finally, they can be re-converted, until there's not-enough, left, to continue to otherwise endlessly re-convert, them (the Glowstone Dust or Prismarine Crystals are insufficient for creation of their own respective Lighting types).

I'm not sure what this Wiki groups Nether Quartz Ore and its (Many) derivatives (including a mechanism), into, but that -too, might represent a side-comparison, of how similar-things should be How-separately -treated. - Yilante 216.7.78.195 06:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


 * . They are very similar, and different textures is minor. -- Naista2002 ♦ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Iron Pickaxe.png 14:08, 17 November 2014 (UTC) (stroke out by  Naista2002  ♦ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Iron Pickaxe.png in 14:14, 17 November 2014 (UTC) due to dispute)

Animated grid image
As with Sea Lanterns, it would be nice if we could have an animated version of the grid image. And the large version for the infobox also needs to be animated. —F‌enhl 07:54, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Avengers, Assemble!
The result of the discussion was merging Dark Prismarine and Prismarine Bricks with Prismarine.

I would like to know current opinions on merging prismarine variants into a single page. — NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 08:42, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * . I don't know why these pages were separate. All prismarine blocks are made from the same prismarine shards, so I would put them together. — NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 08:42, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * - As Sealbudsman and Fenhl said about 9 months ago, the blocks are crafted differently in a more differentiated and unique way. Merging the pages would cause a lot of problems, according to Fenhl. BDJP (t 12:44, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Lolwhat? Technical limitations can be fixed, we have the technology. — NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002) 15:01, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Technical limits are not a problem, I know the templates well and both crafting and crafting usage have easy support for multiple blocks covered by an article. The actual problem would be the crafting recipes being different, but since every other part of the article would be the same, I don't see that as a problem. All the blocks already state they generate in ocean monuments, so we would just state where to find each and the recipes for each. We will keep having the same discussion with different blocks until we decide what really qualifies for merge and split though – KnightMiner  t/c 18:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Here is an example merged page: User:KnightMiner/Workbench/Prismarine. No issues happened during the merging, and it looks pretty good.
 * It may also be worth noting that the other two variants are very small articles, so there is no reason to keep it separate as far as information. Plus they have been inaccurate for quite awhile as no one set the proper ID name. – KnightMiner  t/c 00:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Can all 3 blocks (3 large isometric blocks, and 3 small icons) be featured in the block box on the side? – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png T, C, b 01:01, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I just forgot to add that. JEC fixed it. – KnightMiner  t/c 01:14, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * . – LauraFi -  talk  21:14, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * . A wiki user is ultimately going to be better served, I think, just browsing one page. They always appear together in-game in the same context. They're simple, and similar enough that their differences seem to be exceptions and of minor note. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png T, C, b 22:03, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


 * . –「 JEC  6789  」talk • contribs – 00:21, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I've changed my mind. I now . BDJP (t 01:27, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * - these are ultimately just variants on prismarine, would definitely make sense to put them together. –Goandgoo ᐸ Talk Contribs 04:39, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Reboot

 * After rethinking, I now . These blocks are not derivatives of each other. &mdash; NickTheRed37 t/c (f.k.a. Naista2002)  13:14, 22 April 2015 (UTC)