User talk:Smirkenbowls

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Please Help!
My IP, 70.108.18.38, got banned (#7211)! I was trying to post a copy of the Slternative Experiences page for user Galandros. Can you please unban me? Thanks for your help! - kti131

Thanks Quatroking
Thanks for dealing with all the vandilism and stuff on the admin noticeboard.THANKSDog gey Talk to me here:D

Hi!
I'm a new user here: DinnerBlazter1. I want to make articles in Romanian, but I don't know how. Because you are an Administrator, can you help me adding the Romanian language? -- DinnerBlazter1 14:26, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Just start a project and start making subpages using the /ro suffix. For example, Minecraft Wiki/ro. Take a look at the other projects, especially the finished ones, and see how they did it. By the way, if you really want to take this on seriously, raffle up some Romanian friends and have them help you :) Thanks for contributing to the wiki!--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  14:42, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Would we need latin?
I was wondering is latin needed for a new project. I know its dead. But, I speak very well in it. Dog gey  My talk page!!!
 * Not really, I personally don't see much need in languages that aren't being used around the world in terms of populations.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  13:00, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for telling me.i would have had to pretty much do the whole thing by myself anyway :D Dog gey  My talk page!!!

I can speak Latin too. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Japejoop1 (Talk&#124;Contribs). Please sign your posts with

Suggestion for Wiki Rules
Quatroking,

I've looked though the Rules, but I haven't seen one about signatures or attribution on article pages. I think a rule regarding the use of signatures/attribution should be addressed in the rules. My suggestion is that signatures or any form of attribution are not allowed on articles and article sub-pages. Signatures are only allowed on Talk pages. I think this is a fundamental guideline that should be listed since new users might sign article pages or attribute edits in the Tutorials to themselves or their friends. Examples: ,

And to prevent further misunderstandings, the exceptions for the Known bugs sub-pages should be stated as a bullet under the signature rule to make it more visible. (I almost flamed another user because of a misunderstanding (and my failure to read the page guidelines thoroughly due to the long paragraph format on that page, or just my rushing through the edits and skimming). Hope you understand - Asterick6 03:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see any reason why this shouldn't. I've always known this as a rule and I think the majority of the userbase, including anonymous users know this as well. Quite frankly you surprised me Astrick6 by pointing out that it isn't written anywhere. --Moxxy 03:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think many (most?) people intuit this, but it doesn't hurt to have it stated explicitly. Maybe add it to rule #18, since that one concerns signatures already? -- Orthotope 04:07, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Clarification: My suggestion is to help other users (account or IP) to know about the signature usage guidelines, not because I made a mistake of putting a signature on an article page and want a reminder. That reminder is for the sub-bullet about the Known bugs pages, which I did not know and missed the long paragraph in the beginning, which resulted in my removing of another user's signatures. (I'm getting a bit defensive for some reason...how immature...I'll need another wikibreak soon.) - Asterick6 04:22, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You didn't come of as defensive at all. Even if you were I wouldn't blame you as a certain user who you've dealt with lately has pushed my anger much further. Anyways since me, Orthotope and yourself are all longtime Minecraft wiki editors and in agreement, I'm positive Quatroking would agree as well. If your solution is to make it more clear on the Bug page itself I would add it yourself and Quatroking can look over it when he gets on. On the off chance he disagrees with it he can just undo the edit. --Moxxy 05:04, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Deleted
Wy is my page deleted? It wasn't finished yet. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Japejoop1 (Talk&#124;Contribs). Please sign your posts with

And...
Yeah, I have two other friends that like Minecraft. I'll make pages soon. By the way, I saw you wrote on your User Page the sentence 'I am the Boss' in different languages. Can you write in Romanian? The translate is "Eu sunt şefu' pe-aici!" -- DinnerBlazter1 21:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh, um, yeah, can I copy the text and images from an English article and just translate it? -- DinnerBlazter1 21:13, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Start a translate project and gather up some people, then feel free to start translating!--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  21:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Why did you do this?
I mostly edit Indev pages. I have no idea why did you revert the page from my edits. I will now move it back, with slight changes, not ruining the page... Ldtvproductions 11:21, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * All information you put on the page is false; Rana, as well as the other mobs made by dock, never had animation because the model format never worked properly. Rana also only dropped apples, and her hitbox was throughout her body but not her head. Have you even played Indev, 2.5 years ago?--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  12:03, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually yes, i did. When she steps in water, she stays awhile, and then she falls and disappears, dropping resources... So it maybe wan't 100% true. Animations were from Notches blog in a picture . SO that's it, i'm just a nostalgic player of InDev, scrapping some details i see there... But i have no idea how Rana came there before Dock - check the dates...

Great wiki!
Great job with the wiki! It's really good :) The only flaw I see in it is the templates for defining the articles (templates like needs citation, needs to expand, etc.) They are really simple and I think they have to be designed according to the wiki's theme, Minecraft. I think I could help the wiki in that... What do you think?

Anyway, all the community has done a really good work in maintaining this wiki :) Keep it up!

-- fetuccineHusky (talk to me.)  Oh no! A creeper! RUN RUN RUN! 21:07, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Minecraft Wiki:Sandbox
Hiya! just messaging all other admins about my project, the Minecraft Wiki:Sandbox. This sandbox initiative is going to try to gauge what the community wants page-wise, and where they want the wiki to go. the plan is to use that, and see if the wiki can go that way, if our rules need improving, or if it is not viable to go in certain directions with the wiki. So, there will be many pages that break our current rules, that will be located at "Minecraft Wiki:Sandbox/PAGENAMES". I'm just messaging to request, unless it is blatant spam, please don't delete these pages. There is a system to delete these pages if they are too low quality, or not active enough, and a system to tell users what has been deleted, and why. as well as informing them if a page will never be reconsidered. This section of the wiki is to see if we can push the rules, and if we should we push the rules. I welcome other admins to help take part in this project, to see how the wiki can viably adapt to the community. Have a good day! :) --Kizzycocoa 22:26, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Request for slower deletions
Hi, I was reading recent changes and I noticed your deletions of Forge design f5 and friends. While these pages do seem inappropriately named, I think it was inappropriate to delete them without discussion given that they were used by another page. I feel that such deletions can be extremely discouraging to new contributors, as they are then unable to recover their work, which might have been appropriate placed elsewhere. I request that in the future you consider, when such content is not an orphaned page with no explanation or low-quality content, requesting that the page be moved appropriately rather than deleting it with no warning.

I have no stake in or considered opinion of the project of which that page was a part, other than that it seems not inappropriate for the wiki provided it is moved to a tutorial section; I mention it only as an example.

—kpreid 14:56, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll move them over to subpages of that project and leave them a note to make subpages instead of normal ones in the future.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  16:29, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my fault. But -this- is strange. -- Oliver Scholz  Wiki Admin 17:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks normal for a younger user. --Moxxy 18:04, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

"We do not use votes"
Talk:Ocelot <--- Apparently, we do use votes. TrollGlaDOS 06:18, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Pro-tip: Don't be a smartass, especially to a wiki admin. We use votes to get a general consensus on how users feel about issues on the wiki. It does NOT finalize any decisions. Especially when you think 7 people and a 4 to 3 vote is a decent sample. --Moxxy 07:35, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


 * @TrollGlaDOS No we don't. Even though the discussion/reasons used that format, and I "reached a consensus" based on discussion reasons and overall support, it ultimately depends on the bureaucrat and admins' opinion(s). Votes are only used to support the discussion, and normally only admins (which I am not) go ahead with the decisions on wikis. I've only gone ahead in those instances since the admins are busy with many other things and don't bother much with merge proposals, and due to reasonable explanations for the proposal and popular support of the proposals (as in majority or over half, not a ~1:1 ratio like 4:3), as well as no comments from admins clearly against the proposals; and if they don't agree with it, there is no consensus. - Asterick6 06:35, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Oaks?
Why are you going to use oak instead of apple? APPLES DO NOT GROW ON OAKS. TrollGlaDOS 03:16, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Because we've been using it since forever. The attitude you show while trying to change the naming doesn't help much either.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  19:03, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * But it's incorrect! Just because we're used to it, doesn't mean it's correct! Look, if Mojang didn't intend for them to be apple trees, then they wouldn't drop apples. Also, what attitude do I show about the naming, anyway? TrollGlaDOS 19:24, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * So am I hereby to assume that you have note of Mojang claiming this? I'd be happy to see that. Also, if you must know, Wikipedia has a lovely article on a kind of apple that grows on many species of oak. Besides, oak leaves have an apple drop rate of 1/200 (0.5%) and I'm fairly sure that apple trees grow more apples than that.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  13:54, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, so Mojang hasn't said anything either way. As for oak apples, I think nature wants to troll me. As for the drop rate, consider 1. Bugs in the fruit, 2. Bruised fruit, 3. Rotten fruit, 4. Unripe fruit, and 5. Punching fruit tends to damage it. Anyway, truce. That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario! <--- Also, I like memes. That's my peace offering. LOL


 * With the introduction of the new wooden slab types, Oak is now the confirmed name. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 06:47, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protection
Quatroking, can you semi-protect the Pocket Edition upcoming features? There are too many disruptive edits occurring as well as IP vandalism. - Asterick6 21:32, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

My adminship
I did a lot of contributing to Minecraft Wiki lately, so would you like to make me an administrator? -- BrandonSkyPimenta  (Need help?) 23:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Quality over quantity. Making a bunch of edits doesn't instantly qualify you to be an admin; and even if it did, you certainly wouldn't qualify. You've made 3 edits outside of your user page, all of those on a template that is not used.
 * Also, we don't usually listen to admin requests (aside from ones for other languages that don't have many/any admins yet), instead we pick people that we have seen making exceptional contributions to the wiki and ask them if they want to be admin. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 01:37, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * This is unfair are you guys are confused. Back in the beginning of May 15, 2012 I uploaded File:Stop icon.png under a Creative Commons license License cc.png BY-SA. See my contribs I made and actions I made in order to know me that I should be an admin and a bureaucrat. However, autoconfirmed users have the ability to suppress redirects when moving pages so the original page is deleted and the new title is created without having to become an admin or bureaucrat. So where's the correct place to request adminship? -- BrandonSkyPimenta  (Need help?) 10:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * What has uploading an image got to do with being an admin? – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 13:32, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * No. Don't call us, we call you. Amount of contributions does not influence the possibility of us calling out to you a lot, quality and attitude do. And as for bureaucrats, I doubt that we'll be appointing any at all in the next few months if not years. --Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  14:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I would like to become an administrator for my reasons:
 * I made a LOT of contributing to MCW. Please see the contribs I made and actions I made.
 * I'm helpful and don't vandalize. Since I did a lot of contribs and actions to MCW, you should be glad I'm helping Minecraft Wiki.
 * I need to access administrative features. I need to block and unblock users, delete and undelete pages, etcetera.
 * I want to be a bureaucrat. I also want to be a bureaucrat because I need to change user rights and do other things that bureaucrats would do. Also because of the reasons listed above.
 * -- BrandonSkyPimenta  (Need help?) 16:53, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Your reasons are terrible.
 * You've only made 44 edits. Most of which are in your userspace, or relating to your userspace and are of no benefit to the wiki. The few edits you've made that are outside your userspace (not even 10), don't contribute to anything. You've made a useless template, randomly changed another template's colours, and removed a tag from a page that seems to still apply.
 * Helpful? How is editing your userpage helpful to anyone but yourself?
 * Why do you need to block users? It seems you're just listing off random admin functions so it seems like you know what you're talking about.
 * And here it is obvious you don't know what you're talking about. A normal sized wiki really never needs more than a few bureaucrats (Wikipedia is a massive wiki and they only have 34 bureaucrats). Its only purpose is to perform rare tasks.
 * – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 17:57, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I still want to be an admin on MCW because I've now made more edits to pages about Minecraft. See my contribs and actions for more information. I have been helping when editing the MCW pages. I want to block users for vandalism, spam, and other things, including blanking user pages. Also I don't want to be a bureaucrat yet. -- BrandonSkyPimenta  (Need help?) 21:22, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * you know... making random useless edits won't help you be an admin. and also, jugding by what kind of edits you do, making you admin would be a terrible idea, especially when you mension blanking user pages.  If you did get adminship, I know exactly who the first victim would be (me).  either cut it out with the admin stuff, or start being helpful. KingFlameTail 21:50, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "I don't want to be a bureaucrat yet" Haha! You're acting as if you're going to get anything. We've already told you we don't accept admin requests. Even if we did, you would never be accepted.
 * In fact seeing your recent edits I doubt you'll be here much longer. Most of your edits are just bad, in some cases I'd even call it vandalism (removing Mojang copyright from images, for example). – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 02:25, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Even if I'm vandalizing images by removing the License Mojang tag from their summaries, and you don't usually listen to requests (you pick which people make exceptional contribs and ask them if they should be an admin or not), I want to become an admin, but I'll have to listen to everything you tell me to do. I'll no longer make disruptive contribs. -- BrandonSkyPimenta  (Need help?) 22:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


 * You will never become admin, end of discussion. --Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  23:20, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Is it wrong that I'm finding this discussion mildly entertaining? --Moxxy 23:25, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * +1 - CrazyBliep   NL Admin  01:32, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you kidding? I added this to my watch list, just because I want to see what bad argument he'll come up with today.  not bad for an eight-year old though... KingFlameTail 03:11, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Only reason I haven't blocked him yet. :P
 * What impresses me though, is his grammar. It's much better then most adults I know. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 04:43, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I am mature enough to become an admin. I wish I could access administrative features on MCW because I'm making more edits to my userspace, even though many of my edits were falsely reverted. I made few edit wars, but it does happen and you know it happens. I created an awesome talk page and signature. Now go to user rights, switch to my username (BrandonSkyPimenta), check "administrator" and save. -- BrandonSkyPimenta  (Need help?) 14:48, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * someone is sure eager to compensate for something.
 * in other news, this is now my most favourite talk page topic. we need to use this as an example for how not to become an admin. --Kizzycocoa 15:34, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I love how it's no longer "I can haz adminship plz?" and is now "Make me an Admin NOW!" --Moxxy 15:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * oops, looks like Ultradude25 "accidentaly" hit blaock instead of admin. I hope he comes up with a better argument in 2 weeks, cause reverting stupid edits by vandals is starting to get boring. KingFlameTail 17:06, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

It wasn't Ultradude25, Quatroking did it. Too bad. I was enjoying it, except the reverting part. Ow well. Back to the normal stuff again. - CrazyBliep   NL Admin  19:25, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The dogpiling on the boy, particularly after he has been blocked is unnecessary and really quite distasteful, though. I note a number of followup comments by people I'd have hoped would have been more... understanding. I'd always advise following a strict rule when dealing with vandalism and other abuses: never add any more commentary than 'revert vandalism', 'video violates wiki rule X, removing', and so on, particularly if you're starting to get irritated. Keep it as impersonal as possible. It's less inflammatory, doesn't gratify trolls, doesn't cause needless upset, etc. Gloating in a case like this is cruel, especially if he really is that much younger than the rest of us. There are 30 million MC users, nearly. That means there will be people of all ages playing it, although the average age is probably mid-late teen. (Younger than for most major games, I'm sure.) So the Wiki does need to try to allow for very young users like this precocious fellow as well as full adults. BTW, I'm posting here as this seems to be the central point for this discussion, not because I'm criticising Quatroking. --82.69.54.207 03:13, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I suppose your right. I hope when he comes back that he decides to help the wiki just for the sake of making it better instead of making pointless edits in a futile attempt to be admin (if there anyone who should get an adminship, its Moxxy.

KingFlameTail 15:04, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Spanish admins?
I was wondering if you had any Spanish admins yet because I'm a very good Spanish speaker. | DoGgEy |  Talk
 * While we are searching for administrators on the Spanish wiki, we currently only accept native speakers. So I'm afraid I'll have to deny your request, but thanks anyways. --Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  17:58, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok thanks for telling me. :)  | DoGgEy |   Talk

Im also guessing because of my history too.

Problem with Sugar Cane
I am getting an error message when I go to the sugar cane page. "The database did not find the text of a page that it should have found, named "Sugar Cane" . This is usually caused by following an outdated diff or history link to a page that has been deleted. If this is not the case, you may have found a bug in the software. Please report this to an administrator, making note of the URL." it happens when i search for reeds (redirects to sugar cane error is in english) and when I search for sugar cane (redirects to sugar cane error is in german/swedish). It said to bring it to the attention of an administrator, and so i did. 173.69.23.64 02:10, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  04:12, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Getting an identical error message for the mods page, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods 203.129.39.77 11:26, 16 August 2012 (UTC) 203.129.39.77 Brauggi

Ha ha! The alternative experiences page is dead!
Shall we start a celebratory funeral pyre? --Moxxy 19:55, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I have an archived version of it. Shall we start it again? (It was VERY useful. :D - kti131

NVM, I just realized what happened to it. :D - kti131

U BLOCKED ME 4 NO REASON!
Hello. You have blocked my account - htmlguy - for no reason. All I was doing was making an article ablut something I learned about minecraft from a youtube video: "cya, wouldn't wanna bya!" Please unblock me. Thanks,

HEMLGUY
 * The wiki is *not* for articles about youtube videos, and we do not allow fiction. (which includes speculation and fan-made content) For now, I've unblocked you, but please keep this in mind next time. --Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  18:43, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --

htmlguy

Last edited
You realise there's a last edited date right below the page, right? :P –ultradude25 (T&#124;C) at 10:43, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * God damn there go my fancy magic words :( --Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  11:03, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Not able to register
Hiyas,

I am not able to register on the wiki. I did the CAPTCHA cat thing, and I clicked all the cats, but it still says invalid. --209.60.242.35 04:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to enable browser cookies. --Kumasasa 05:57, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey There, I was able to register, Thanks! --Byzantine95 17:53, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Deleted page and block
Quatroking, why didn't you let me know that the page was violating the rules before deleting the page like that? I would have removed the "personal attack" content and just made it into a page for watching other users's replies. My intention was to use the page to keep track of talk page replies on other talk pages, and to keep track of vandal edits. I admit the other content took it too far and I shouldn't have done what I did, but I would have deleted all of it if you'd just let me know beforehand. I'm sorry for lashing out like that on other people, and it's my problem for doing that, but next time can you please let me know on my talk page why I got blocked? And I'll be going on a trip for a few weeks anyways, so thanks for blocking me to keep me from continuing to edit since I'm addicted and getting a bit unstable from spending too much time doing this. 91.121.113.108 01:39, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You've had previous warnings regarding your attitude towards other users which was good enough for me to block you for it. And please don't avoid your block.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  06:34, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Upcoming Features Page
Is it possible to lock this page for editing, its constantly being updated with false dates despite me placing in "July 2012", people continue to add specific days for "release"

How APIs work
Because APIs require a lot of bandwidth and can easily be abused (not caching the results properly, using it to load data every refresh of a page), ALL apis lock down to a single IP address and monitor number of hits. (see: Facebook API, Google API, Netflix API).

The use of registration and ip address prevents abuse. If you don't like it, don't use it. I'm putting it back, I changed the wording so it doesn't look official. --Mineverse 16:15, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Xbutton
I'm wondering why you switched to rl/rt/lt/lr for the bumper and trigger buttons. They don't seem to make any sense, as they don't match the name or label on those buttons; lb/rb/lt/rt would be more logical. -- Orthotope 10:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Good point, I don't really know why I went with rl/rt either. Fixed.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  13:19, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Moving the bug pages and subpages
Hi, I was looking through the talk page for the Known Bugs page, and saw the discussion and proposals at Talk:Known bugs. Will you be moving the pages to Issues and renaming the snapshot release articles to "Snapshot x"? Also, I think the proposal I came across at Minecraft Wiki talk:Community portal is a good one. Will you be moving the pages and setting the main "Issues" article for the current official release at Issues instead of using a root page like the one we have now? I think this proposal might be more helpful than the system we have right now at Known Bugs. --M0rphzone 23:44, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Korean translation
115.161.46.179 15:32, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 나는 행정 Minecraft 위키 헤드이야! (x)
 * 저는 Minecraft 위키 최고관리자입니다! (o)

Mod page
The modifications page is GONE. 69.47.120.32 01:11, 1 September 2012 (UTC)