Talk:Herobrine

Herobrine stream information! / Video editor needed!
Just to inform watchers/editors of this page, I am currently in talks with Copeland, the person who started the original Herobrine stream that propelled Herobrine into popularity. I'm getting a new wealth of knowledge from my talking, and shall be wikifying it ASAP. Some of this data has already been wikified, which you can currently peruse. I have asked him several questions the wiki likely wants to know. Why, how, who knew, did you expect it to blow up, what happened after etc. etc. He has also put himself forward to do the voice-section of the Herobrine video I've tried to get set up, much like Curse's own videos. This is a great turn of events! We just need a video editor to squash all of this together, so if anyone wants to volunteer, please do message!! --Kizzycocoa 00:57, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I would like to work on a video like Curse did with minecraft tutorials for minecraft, but i would do it for Herobrine. I would probably have around 10-20 episodes going over the origins, and canon information, as well as stuff hinted at by the staff of Mojang. If anyone wants to help, they should PM my planetminecraft account, www.planetminecraft.com/member/conflicttftw I will also be going over the 'fan-fiction' side of things for the last few episodes, including a quick look at herobrine server plugins, and MODs done by fans. Again, if anybody wants to help (build a set/review area, help record, video editing, etc) just PM my PMC. THX, bye :D

10.50.19.1 16:34, 12 February 2013 (UTC)conflicttFTW

Herobrine Pronunciation (Help needed!)
Kizzycocoa, for the American pronunciation, I don't think people pronounce it the "brine" as the "brin" in Sergey Brin. Most people pronounce it as "heerobrine" (brine rhymes with fine). Could you change that please? Thanks --M0rphzone(talk) 02:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * see, I'm unsure there. Most of my American friends said it as such. Tell me, these friends/you, did you formulate your pronounciation after, or before we put it on the wiki page? Because before, all the American youtubers, my American friends, and even outsiders I had spoke to ho were American generally used that pronunciation, prior to us setting the Swedish/mojang/stream's standard as canonically correct.
 * I shall change it, implying a culture difference, but I will want some form of study done. Such as asking random friends in your countries what they'd say, and making a statement such as "generally, Americans pronounce it like this". --Kizzycocoa 02:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I have escalated this to a study, just so we can be sure.
 * I strongly recommend all participants find non-minecrafters, and ask them, so to keep the study free of any existing bias. --Kizzycocoa 02:49, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * {| style="background: #FFF; margin:2px; border: 1px solid silver; text-align: center;"

! Version !! USA !! Canada !! UK !! Europe !! Other
 * Herro-Brin || 1 || ? || 1 || ? || ?
 * Hiro-Bryne || 1 || 1 || 4 || 1 || ?
 * Other || 1 || ? || ? || ? || ?
 * }
 * I have contacted most of my English friends who don't play MC, including my entire family. They all say "bryne". A common reason was because a brine is a salt water thing. Perhaps this is the lead factor? --Kizzycocoa 02:40, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * When I first saw that name, the pronunciation I ended up with before reading or knowing anything was herro brin (think of Korean stereotypes with speech and second syllable rhymes with chin).  03:42, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That is the incorrect version, whch we're attempting to trace. Where are you, location wise? Please add yourself to our chart if you can!
 * I myself saw it as bryne. as I first-hand went through the Herobrine process live, I know I saw the image before the stream, thus mine wasn't affected. if anyone thinks it unfair, do a -1 on the UK hiro-bryne count. --Kizzycocoa 22:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added myself to the Herro-Brin tally. My brother and I have always pronounced it that way and, while I can't put any names to this, am sure i've heard other use this pronunciation too. --GhostOfRattman 02:55, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This is very likely. all major fansongs use the brin version, which prompted the wiki to find the bryne version as canonical, due to mojang and brocraft use. The question now is, how did users come up with the brin version? Brine is already known to be a salt water compound, but where has brin come from?--Kizzycocoa 03:00, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I myself saw it as bryne. as I first-hand went through the Herobrine process live, I know I saw the image before the stream, thus mine wasn't affected. if anyone thinks it unfair, do a -1 on the UK hiro-bryne count. --Kizzycocoa 22:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added myself to the Herro-Brin tally. My brother and I have always pronounced it that way and, while I can't put any names to this, am sure i've heard other use this pronunciation too. --GhostOfRattman 02:55, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This is very likely. all major fansongs use the brin version, which prompted the wiki to find the bryne version as canonical, due to mojang and brocraft use. The question now is, how did users come up with the brin version? Brine is already known to be a salt water compound, but where has brin come from?--Kizzycocoa 03:00, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

I used to pronuce it Herro-Brin like in this song of Herobrine [] but now I pronuce it Hiro-Bryne plus that song is good! :) Megatron James 16:49, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello! I saw Help needed about pronouncing Herobrine's name and thought I'd add my bit. I'm American and I say it the supposedly European way, "Hero + brine". All the players I know (also Americans) also say it this way. I'm from the West Coast, so there may be regional differences within the US. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.181.89.90 (Talk) 07:14, 19 January 2013‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with

Yeah, Kizzycocoa, it's pronounced "Hare", "Oh", "Brine".173.150.175.56 06:20, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I just noticed your reply, Kizzycocoa. Seeing as Herobrine is the brain child of some random person who made a "creepy pasta" image, I don't believe there is a correct, or incorrect, way to pronounce it. It is also unlikely anyone can trace down the creator of the image, considering irrefutable evidence they created it isn't exactly possible. Herobrine should be considered similar to an equivocal word, like bass, coop, or close, even though there are possibly more than two pronunciations throughout the community, like herro-bryne, hiro-bryne, herro-brin, hiro-brin, etc., and they all mean the same thing.  01:13, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There isn't a real "correct" way, as Herobrine isn't a real word. but, Canonically, there is a "real" way, which Copeland stated on the stream. Therefore, as the earliest reference to him audibly, we must assume it is pronounced that way. Unless the creator of the image comes forward to state otherwise.
 * RE the american-europe thing, it does indeed seem that people are reporting widespread adoption of "hiro-bryne". It is odd. what factor is the cause of the pronunciation split, I am unsure. perhaps we at the wiki are responsible for the sway of results, but I do not know, for sure.
 * I will reword that section. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 18:32, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

I am an American, and all of my friends in the states pronounce it "Hero Brine." Specifically I'm from the mid-west for anyone interested in dialects. I think most Americans would pronounce it that way, because it really is just a compound word. "Hero" is a word that everyone pronounces the same (I would assume so) and "brine" is also a word (for those of you who don't know, it means salty). So its just Hero+Brine. What do you guys think about this? Is it a compound word? Gmarcott42 01:19, 6 February 2013 (UTC)Gmarcott42

I have always said herobrine as 'hErObrIne' I don't know if this helps, but its always been how me and my friends in Central america have said it. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 10.250.80.93 (Talk) 16:33, 11 February 2013‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with

i am an american. "hero brine" is the common, and correct, pronunciation among americans. "hero brin" is a mistake which we can attribute to a poor understanding of english pronunciation rules. the letter 'e' at the end of the word brine forces the 'i' to be a long vowel (tried and bite are two examples of words with a 'long i' sound). in the absence of that 'e', the 'i' would be a short vowel and "hero brin" would be the correct pronunciation (bit and fit are two examples of words with the 'short i' sound). the "hero brin" pronunciation is simply an error made by people who might need more time in an english class, not a cultural or linguistic difference between americans and europeans. hope this clears things up. 192.12.88.134 18:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)edf


 * To be brutally honest, I find your explanation of "'hero brin' is pronounced by [idiots]" to be insulting.  18:59, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Also, english is not a phonetically-spelled language, so this 'rule' is not always correct. Counterexamples include alkaline, analine, determine, epinephrine, famine, genuine, illumine, and masculine. -- Orthotope 04:19, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


 * your brutal honesty is appreciated, but i didn't call anyone an idiot. english is a phonetic language, it just has lots of exceptions because its development was heavily influenced by the languages of foreign invaders. the examples you listed are well established exceptions that have been in english vocubulary for many years. exceptional pronunciation may become standardized, but when a new word enters the vocabulary it is typical to pronounce it according to that language's rules. hope that helps. 192.12.88.133 15:42, 14 February 2013 (UTC)edf
 * It is not "idiots" who say it. a selection of the community do. Please note, every Herobrine song is "brin", as is most references in high-profile videos. Yet, we all go for "bryne". this is the strange paradox that I'm confused over. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 20:15, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

- Herobrine Video info-
- Click on URL to see a Video of him. - <Video deleted>
 * This is not going on the page. at all. Herobrine is not real, and that video would severely contrast with this fact. This wiki is ten times the resource than that video.
 * Furthermore, if you want to share your video playlists, do not do so on the wiki. we are a wiki. not a forum. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 22:26, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

"Current stance on Herobrine" logical fallacy.
A quote was posted under the stated section by the joint developer stating,"We have no plans at all to add herobrine. I doubt this will ever change.", yet the section states that the quote *confirms* Herobrine will never see an official release. That should be changed so as not to draw conclusions and prevent bias. 184.57.161.27 08:17, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I do not see how this is a logical fallacy. herobrine is not in minecraft, and will never see an official release. this is true. He does, however, have a mod release. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 21:46, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe you miss the point. The support this article gives for Herobrine never seeing an official release only says they "doubt" they will change their minds on the topic of Herobrine, yet they've repeatedly changed their minds in the past. One cannot base a factual statement on a doubt expressed by the developers. Therefore, I suggest one changes the section to say something along the lines of, "This confirms that at this point, the developers have no intention of adding Herobrine," instead of using the word "never" for something that cannot be proven as fact. 184.57.161.27 03:17, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * They have only changed their mind once, actually. Regardless, I do believe most of Mojang do not want him in-game, but do like him as a concept. I expect the act of refusing to make him go in-game, while removing him every update, is merely to antagonise this subject further. There is no doubt in my mind that Herobrine will never see an official release. can it be proven? no. Is it the likely outcome? yes.
 * The reason it sounds so final, is to attempt to curb Herospam. It is to tell users that he will never be in, so they aren't so gullible to the rumours. If I put "likely", users could use that to say "!OMG HE'S IN EVERYONE!!!!!", leading to masses of Herospam from users who've never seen him, but want to be the "cool" crowd who have, who are in turn, also lying.
 * The never stops that scenario from occurring in the future. In the event of his EXCEEDINGLY UNLIKELY addition, we will happily rephrase it. until then, that never is the difference between gullibility and sanity. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 16:54, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Original troll video
Has anyone recorded the troll video of Herobrine that was on Brocast? If so plz upload to Youtube and give me the Url on my user talk page thank you! Megatron James 21:31, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have gone to nearly everyone involvedin that stream in a hunt for this video. I have had no success. But if someone does have a recording, the wiki would very much like to obtain it. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 21:46, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Kizzycocoa have ever seen the Brocraft stream because I am doing research on Herobrine my self but some times I do it at night on sometimes I freak out because no lights are on and my bro has 2 flashlights and shines it in my room and creeps me out Megatron James 16:43, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have. I wish I could transfer those memories to screen, but I can't. so most of this page relies on my memory, which can be faulty at times.
 * For example, I thought the jumbled message in the "Him.html" was hidden in the source code and had a black background. I was wrong.
 * Non-the-less, he is not real. at all. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 16:47, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I belive you that he's fake but I have some part in me that belives in him and I have seen him before without mods but I must be going crazy but I saw the user Herobrine on a server once but after that encounter on Multiplayer I havent seen him since. But my friends and I are looking for who the User Herobrine is and then figure out if is in Minecdraft and how to get rid of Him. For good. Megatron James 16:57, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh! apparently some people were recording there xboxs with an iPod and they saw Herobrine so checked out all of these peoples videos and they didnt have a edititng software so maybe Herobrine is In the Xbox edition but not in Pc????????? Megatron James 17:18, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * In this video it was tooken in Beta 1.7.3 for X box and an invisble thing was attacking this person and placing blocks or is this a bug [] Megatron James 17:28, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Let us think this over for a second.
 * is this the work of an ominous mythical game-haunting entity, who's sole goal is to somehow troll you in particular, because you're just that special that he hates you.
 * or is it a bug.
 * I'll let that question sink in. feel free to post what is the rational answer :T
 * As for the PC multiplayer sightings, bots. bots or MP mods. both are possible, even in vanilla. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 17:39, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Could it be...No. Megatron James 17:57, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I am Searching for Herobrine on Pocket edition I will add abnormal pictures If I find any occurences
 * Megatron James 18:37, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Stop right there. All searching is pointless, and the wiki will not support a search, as it will end fruitlessly. Hell, the code itself has no Herobrine code.
 * any pictures uploaded will be deleted. And if you come back saying you saw him, I shall do as the header says. A temp block for exciting Herobrine spam. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 18:49, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * All right but I need all the info I can get of Herobrine so anyone out there put real info (not stories) of Herobrine on my YouTube or my Talk page. Megatron James 19:00, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There are no real info, as he is not in MC. Your request will only attract spam and stories. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 19:21, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I just want to know more for gods sake I'm ten years old! Should I make a video on YouTube asking for any part of the Brocast streaming? Megatron James 20:56, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure! the wiki desperately wants to get some form of archive footage. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 22:25, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * All right I'll make ASAP Megatron James 15:40, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Nobody has commented about it I need people to like my video so others can see it and the troll we know will be put to justice! Megatron James 17:48, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Herobrine user's skin
Hello, I have a little something to contribute here. A while back I was toying with Single Player commands, and put on the skin of the Herobrine user. He was a premium user, and he had the Herobrine skin on. Likely to use in a hoax or pranking. I can assume that if this is what the account was made for, then it is still so, but I think it would be worth noting his skin if it is still the Herobrine skin. And I could confirm that he wore no capes. Coryn02 01:21, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * We have already gone over this. It's in the trivia. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 01:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Ah, okay, then. Coryn02 02:05, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

A simple dot
Hello!

In the "changelogs" section, the 1.4.2 "reason" needs a dot between "community" and "Only":

No reasons for the entry/Toying with the community. Only noted on the Tumblr version of the changelog, viewed through the launcher.

That's all. Thanks! Kingpowl~  es.Wiki Admin  (talk) 14:44, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Curious about Him
Herobrine has always intrigued me. I've always wanted to believe in him, even though the logical parts of my brain know He isn't real. I also wonder why He got so popular. What exactly was it that made Him so widely known? the Brocast stream? The story itself? I really wish that people wouldn't make fake video's about Him, because I want to know the truth. All of it. And to be honest, I would love it if Herobrine was real.
 * it mostly propelled with the stream, as video is more tangible than a still image. We at the wiki have strived to cover all relevant topics on this page with complete clarity. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 18:16, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

May take years to ever get a copy of that stream from brocast/craft. It may take years... 74.73.15.166 23:09, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * We have tried to obtain this video, but we fear it fruitless. Even the streamer doesn't have the video. We're assuming it lost for good, unless any user was clever enough to record/save the video. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 23:12, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

You know, Kizzycocoa, they could just make it again with the same painting, except no one would believe you the 2nd time around anyway. Stop worrying and get back to Minecraft! And if you have any sightings, then post them, please! Otherwise, just enjoy the indie gem that's Minecraft!

I made a video trying to get any recorded part of the stream...but I have no luck :( Megatron James 17:50, 29 January 2013 (UTC) 173.150.175.56 06:31, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Cake Easter Egg
There is Herobrine on a birthday cake cover.

I may have missed something about Minecraft, but what? Ps: Sign your posts. Jorgeturc 12:53, 2 February 2013 (UTC)Jorgeturc

Why the name "Herobrine"?
I've read the original story a couple times, and even though I know it is probably fake, I still wonder, why the name Herobrine? I mean, if it is totally fake (which it most likely is) why would he have chosen the name Herobrine, why not Steven, or Michael, or something else. If that was purely made up, why Herobrine? Does that mean something special in another language? Or is it just a made up name for no reason. My brother and I were talking about various Minecraft subjects last night, and the subject Herobrine came up. I showed him the original creepy-pasta story, and him and I talked about it for almost an hour. He was saying that if it was made up he was using something my brother likes to call a third degree lie. He said the first degree is telling someone some made up facts to make them believe it. The second degree is knowing that they will believe the opposite so they say what they think will be true. The third degree is what he used when he said redstone torches, because if he said regular torches then people would just think "Oh, those are just from an abandoned mine shaft or one of you old torches"

Anyways if you guys know why he might be called that, or if you guys have ever just wondered any of the same things as my brother and I.

50.93.126.239 16:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC) I don't actually have a user name, but I do have a lot of thoughts on this subject.

I suspect the name was chosen at random, but I fail to see how choice of name would affect the credibility (or utter lack thereof) of the original creepypasta. Cobalt32 15:20, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

The name comes from a glitch in the original coding for dispensers. When you got killed by one, the message: "(player) was shot by Herobrine" appeared in the chat window. 69.49.44.167 19:24, 5 February 2013 (UTC)kikass
 * apparently, that was a bukkit addition. therefore, we removed that. our apologies. --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 19:26, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Specifically, it was added by Dinnerbone in this commit to CraftBukkit. Note that this was about five months before Mojang hired the Bukkit team, so it can't be considered anything other than a fan-made reference. -- Orthotope 07:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Anaka9 22:40, 9 February 2013 (UTC) Anaka9 6:35, 7 Febuary 2013 The message"(player) was shot by Herobrine" WAS just a joke from Notch, that must have scared everyone, so that is why it was removed.


 * If you actually read the comment above the one you just made, it was not added by Notch, not even by anyone in Mojang at the time.  22:42, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Is a factual video possible?
I checked out the guides that the link leaded to about the video discussion. The problem is, since Herobrine is not real, how the heck are we supposed to make an informative video about him? I never saw the original stream and the things in here show what the stream was about. Are we supposed to do videos on the story or on how he'd act if he existed? If it's the second reason, then I'd need the mod to do this. 174.114.8.167 18:37, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

The basic method would be to talk about things such as facts, quotes from MC employees, change log sightings, and where he originated from,etc. Since this is an on-going meme, some things could cause spam on the talk page. One would be careful with wording. Jorgeturc 17:02, 10 February 2013 (UTC)Jorgeturc

/v/ydia (mispelling)
In the section concerning where the herobrine creepypasta was originally posted, the editor wrote that it first appeared on /v/ydia. 4chan's /v/ board is called "/v/idya" (the I and Y are transposed). Regardless, wouldn't it be a better decision to use the full term "4chan's /v/ board", rather than simply /v/idya, consitering that not everyone who plays minecraft is familiar with 4chan's boards/terminology.

208.54.38.130 11:12, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Herobrine mods/plugins/maps?
I think there should be a section at the bottom of this wiki, or somewhere in it, that has some mods and plugins that mention herobrine. it would be cool for people wanting to set up an HB survival server to have a quick link to plugins for that. plus, mods ARE canon information, just not written as a story, more as a gaming aspect. I believe that a description of Herobrine's powers in the herobrine mod is just as important as his supposed powers he has in creepy-pastas.

10.250.80.93 17:19, 13 February 2013 (UTC)Detherak


 * Mods and plugins are not canonical. The only two sources we accept as canon, as explained in the article and in the big notice at the top of this talk page, is the first image and the BroCast stream. Everything else after that is strictly community, and we do not document the community. You're free to list/update Herobrine mods in the appropriate Mods section though, as long as the mod doesn't contribute to griefing, like the popular single player mod.  18:57, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Updates
The Wiki claims Herobrine has NEVER been in Minecraft, but when I scrolled down the old updates in the Minecraft Launcher, it said this(skip to the bottom):

Minecraft 1.4.2 The Pretty Scary Update! + Added a beacon + Added flower pots + Added item frames + Added anvils + Added cobblestone walls + Added pumpkin pies + Added carrots and potatoes + Carrots can be put on a stick to control pigs while riding + Added a boss mob + Added a new skeleton type + Added witches + Added bats + Added mob heads that can be placed + Zombies now infect villagers, but can also be cured + Added wooden button + Items can be cloned with the “pick block” action in Creative Mode + Items can be quickly moved to the hotbar by pressing 1 through 9 while hovering an item + Added /difficulty, /spawnpoint, /weather, /gamerule and /clear commands + Added “target selectors” for commands + Added option to hide capes + Added option to toggle vertical synch + Added customization to superflat worlds + Minor additions to the world generator + New potion recipes + Leather armor can be dyed * Maps now start more zoomed in, and can be extended * Redstone repeaters can now be set into a “locked” position - Removed Herobrine
 * New sound effects * Portals to the Nether can now transport items and mobs
 * Adventure mode now allows placing and removing blocks, but only when using the correct tools
 * Changed method of placing sideways wood logs
 * Improved server list
 * Improved debug (F3) options
 * Spawn protection is now automatically disabled if there are no defined admins

Why is "Removed Herobrine" there? If you want proof, open the Launcher and scroll down yourself--Otepralloma5 04:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Read the Changelogs section of the article.  04:43, 14 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Is Herobrine a "persson" or a person?

Being Factual
I noticed that the wiki says, and I quote,"Herobrine is not in Minecraft. There are no references to him at all in the source code, and there is no code to allow for any entity to act like Herobrine. There is no level terrain code to generate redstone torches, 2x2 tunnels or elaborate dungeons with traps. There is no possible way Herobrine can ever exist in any unmodded clients or servers. Any claims that he is in Minecraft are completely false. Any appearances he may have are caused by mods being installed. The Minecraft Wiki and Forums do not partake in any viral Herobrine hoax. Any deletion of herobrine-related comments or stories are purely because Herobrine doesn't exist, and the stories are either fictional, with an intent to mislead others, or the result of users playing mods installed on their game without their knowledge."

I realized, that this is completely opinionated, and that there has never been any proof of herobrine existing or not existing. I suggest the pages says this is unknown, beacause it is not known whether herobrine exists. I'm not saying he does, but in order to be factual I suggest you state that herobrine's existence is unknown.
 * I fail to see how any of that is opinion-driven.


 * he is not in Minecraft. This is fact.
 * there is no code for him. This is fact.
 * therefore, he can only exist in modded clients, or in servers. This is fact.
 * we do not indulge in the viral promotion of this character. We merely attempt to document and archive Herobrine. This is fact.


 * once again, where is the opinion? --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 02:28, 21 February 2013 (UTC)