Talk:Java Edition RC1

Sound Update
Seeing as the "Sound Update" was separate from 1.0.0-RC1, I propose splitting it to its own article at Sound Update (or using the previous Beta Sound Update title) – KnightMiner  t/c 23:58, 16 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I, I vote we put it under the Beta Sound Update. Then include it in computer versions, and history.  One reason I'd argue for keeping Sound Update open, is that I think we could use that for the more recent sound update.  I could be wrong, but I think sometime between 1.6 and 1.8 they redid the sounds and music again, and I don't think that's mentioned on the wiki. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 00:19, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'll agree with the title Beta Sound Update, though we should redirect Sound Update to that page until it gets used elsewhere. As for the 1.6-1.8 update, that really only contained music, so "Music Update" would suffice. The specific tracks added are described on Music included in Minecraft, though it could use an actual article complete with a release date. – KnightMiner  t/c 00:42, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure they changed also, at least, cow sounds. Anyhow I can look it up I'm sure. I'm sure the blog or the tumblr or somewhere has it. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 00:48, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Music was updated on Nov 13, 2013, after 1.7.2 and before the 1.7.4 snapshots. [ See this Dinnerbone tweet]. For future reference, it was 6 creative tracks, 4 menu tracks, 4 nether tracks, 1 end track, 1 credits track, 1 boss track. See this reddit thread.


 * The 'cow sounds' I mentioned, I was conflating two things. They were part of 12w38a, the prior year. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 02:51, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I wonder if giving the second update a capitalized title is appropriate. Suppose also they update the music and sounds again.  Maybe '2014 music update' or '2014 sound and music update'?  (Or whatever year it was). I am pretty sure it had no official name.  Also, the first update, it may have been a community name -- if so, I'm not sure it should be capitalized either. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 01:10, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Good job on finding that information! I was still wondering where to start my search, as I did not find anything on the Mojang blog.
 * As for the title, the style guide only require sentence case. Having that in mind, I personally think it reads better being uppercase, as otherwise it seems like a category of updates. As for the prefix, "Beta" or "2011" both work fine for the Sound Update, and it would make sense to use "2013" or no prefix for the Music Update. So overall I would leave it to how we plan on linking displaying the names for the updates in the history table: by date or by coined name? If by date, then add the year prefixes, otherwise use "Beta" for the Sound Update and nothing for the Music Update – KnightMiner  t/c 03:31, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I am partial to Beta Sound Update and 2013 Music Update myself. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 04:06, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I can't think of a way to determine which sounds were actually updated as part of the Sound Update, and which ones were changed as of 1.0.0-RC1. Seeing as how it was an assets update.  I'm referring to how it's split apart at Version_history/Beta&oldid=804991#Sound_Update.. it seems to imply that it was done in two stages.  I imagine that we'd keep some sound changes on this page, and move the rest to the new page.  Anyhow I don't think it's verifiable which one was which, at this point.  I tend to want to use that old Version_history page to make that distinction, but I don't know whether that's 'allowed'. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 00:46, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


 * - On Minecraft Wiki, we title the articles about versions in accordance with their technical names (1.7.10, Alpha 1.0.1, Classic 0.30, etc.), NOT with their nicknames (Redstone Update, Halloween Update, etc.). Feel free to make a separate article with the title "Sound Update", but NOT move this article to "Sound Update". --ToonLucas22 (talk) 19:03, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I get what you're saying about articles supposed to be using the official names, but the thing is, 1.0.0-RC1 was a different thing from the sound update, it took place a few days apart. We're talking about splitting out the sound update stuff from 1.0.0-RC1, and putting just that in its own article, since it wasn't (arguably?) a part of 1.0.0-RC1. – Sealbudsman (Aaron) SealbudsmanFace.png t/c 19:12, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Any further comment on splitting the Nov 11 asset updates out into their own Beta Sound Update article? ToonLucas, is there any remaining concern? – Sealbudsman (Aaron) T/C 17:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)