User talk:Dinoguy1000/Archive 5

New administrator
There are not much active admins recently; I think it would be a good idea to make KnightMiner a new one. Before saying that you need Majr’s opinion on this, I’ll say that Majr is also inactive. Also, if you can, please move User:Naista2002/userpage.css and User:Naista2002/userpage/* to update the user name to NickTheRed37.

—  Agent Nick the Red37 (talk &middot; contribs) f.k.a. Naista2002 14:58, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Orthotope? —  Agent Nick the Red37 (talk &middot; contribs) f.k.a. Naista2002 17:54, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Majr edited several times yesterday or earlier today (depending on your timezone), and before that he only went a single week without editing, that's hardly what I'd call "inactive". In addition, given that he works for Curse now, I find it unlikely that he would take a sudden, unannounced leave of absence from the wiki. And at any rate I wouldn't have said I would need Majr's opinion specifically; rather, I would (and do) want a discussion showing community support for potential new administrators - I have no interest in unilaterally deciding the wiki needs more admins and appointing them myself. That being said, from what I've seen over the years, KnightMiner would be a top candidate, assuming he's actually interested; if you want to spearhead this, first ask him if he's interested, and if so, start a discussion on the community portal and a notice of the discussion on the admin noticeboard. After the discussion has run for a reasonable length of time (a couple of weeks or so, or shorter if there is overwhelming support and no valid concerns/objections), myself or another bureaucrat will review it and promote or refuse as necessary (you or anyone else should feel free to poke one of us if it seems we've forgotten somehow).
 * I'll take care of the pagemoves in a minute. =) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:28, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I've gotten all the requested pages renamed. But there are still some pages left under the Naista2002 name; do you want these renamed as well? (And do you want any of the redirects deleted?) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:36, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I shall reply to that tomorrow, I don’t have time.
 * Keep redirects, and move all, but common.* should be renamed to common2.*
 * —  Agent Nick the Red37 (talk &middot; contribs) f.k.a. Naista2002 18:44, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


 * If we need another admin, I agree that KnightMiner would be a good choice. Admittedly, I'm somewhat less active than I used to be, mostly due to being away from home 8-16 hours per day, which doesn't leave me as much time for wiki-related activities. -- Orthotopetalk 23:55, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


 * To answer the question of whether I would be interested, I would say yes. I currently am rather active, and don't plan on departing the wiki anytime soon. I also would find a few of the tools helpful, such as editing protected templates (eg, the sprite sheet positions). – KnightMiner  (t·c) 00:58, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, I've already explained what my requirements would be before I'd consider promoting, so anyone interested in this (including you, Knight =) ) can get the ball rolling by starting the discussion off. =) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:42, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Minecraft Guide for Desktop - Use of item descriptions.
I'm working on building a program that will run on your desktop that will tell you about Minecraft items. I was wondering if I could use descriptions from your website in my program. I was't sure if that was copyrighted or not, and I was going to provide credit to this site. If I could get some feedback about this at my email (oiestinthegamer@gmail.com) or on Twitter (@theoiestin), that would be great. Thank you. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.207.57.86 (talk) at 18:45, 19 February 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * Wiki content is provided under a Creative Commons license; there's an icon indicating this at the bottom of every page. You can use it, but with some restrictions: attribution must be given, it must be non-commercial (e.g., you can't charge users money for your app), and your work must be released under the same license. -- Orthotopetalk 23:55, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Delete "Temp" pages
Hi Dino, could you delete the following "Temp" pages? Thanks! (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and their talk pages: 2, 3, 4, 5,  6, 8 and 11) – LauraFi  -  talk  21:46, 27 February 2015 (UTC)


 * , though in the future it would be better to tag moves over redirects and allow an admin to move them, since admins are able to delete target pages when they exist. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:45, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It was my idea for moves like that. Basically, it allows to move pages over redirects with edit histories as quickly as possible, especially when admins are barely active. —  Agent Nick the Red37 (talk &middot; contribs) f.k.a. Naista2002 08:29, 28 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Several admins are still active, enough for most administrative tasks to be completed with reasonable time. For example, it only took Dinoguy two hours to respond here.
 * As for the tagging, most of the pages were tagged, although it would have been better to poke an admin before moving redirects rather than after. – KnightMiner  t/c 15:35, 28 February 2015 (UTC)


 * This approach is mostly useful in cases of page move vandalism, where restoring page titles quickly is important. The downside is that it clutters the move log and makes it harder to figure out which pages have moved to where, and why. None of these moves were particularly urgent; if anyone had bothered to ask on the admin noticeboard, they would have been taken care of. -- Orthotopetalk 08:23, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Also, pages tagged aren't always ready to be moved. People tag them to propose moving them, so you can't just go and move everything in the pending category, without first reading any related discussions to see if consensus has actually been reached. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 08:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Except in cases of vandalism (and even then, only if the vandalism is vulgar or otherwise offensive), there is no urgency to getting pages renamed. Knight, Ortho, and Majr have given several reasons not to perform renames using this method, except in those vandalism situations, so I'll only add that you seem to have a rather narrow idea of what qualifies for inactive: a few hours to maybe a day or so. General practice on major wikis is to give about a week or so when proposing changes such as pagemoves, because there are often editors who can only really be active every few days. There is no deadline, so there is no harm in waiting longer than just a few hours before deciding everyone's inactive and drastic measures have to be taken. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:16, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Template:c
I notice you changed comment to change the logic. What is the nonsense with ~From Contrapple  01:21, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


 * What nonsense? It is simple parser functions.
 * It first asks if the second parameter is set to blank, in which case it displays nothing. If it is not blank, it adds a no breaking space, then text with the first character in uppercase. That text will be the second parameter if set, otherwise it defaults to the first parameter. If the first parameter is unset or blank, it defaults to "comment" – KnightMiner  t/c 01:42, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


 * To expand on what KnightMiner said with a bit of background, it takes advantage of some not-unsubtle behaviors/interactions between template parameters and ParserFunctions to distinguish between a parameter not being set in a given transclusion (if there's a parameter  in template , for example, this case would correspond to a transclusion where   doesn't appear, e.g.  ), the parameter being set but having no value (extending the previous example, something like  ), and the parameter being set and having a value (something like  ). The way I've always seen this done in the past - and have done it myself - is to set the parameter default to some value that should never occur in normal usage (often the not character   is used for this purpose, though I've seen other characters used), and then check if the parameter's value is equal to that character. This method can distinguish between all three cases using a   , or an   can instead be used e.g. to make sure no pages use a deprecated parameter ; note that distinguishing between a parameter that is unset or set but has no value, and a parameter with some value, just requires a   as you would expect.
 * This case accomplishes the same basic task in a slightly different way (one I've never actually seen before, which is why it took me several minutes to realize what was going on): by checking if, without a pipe, is equal to an empty string, you can distinguish between cases where the parameter is used but not given a value, and cases where it either has a value or isn't used. In the first case, its value is an empty string - as though it used a pipe in the template. In the second case, if the parameter isn't used at all, its value is  . This is quite clever, and I don't think I ever would have come up with it myself. 「 ディノ 奴  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:33, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Is there a page on Mediawiki wiki that explains this? ~From Contrapple Grid Empty Map.png 03:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * mediawikiwiki:Help:Templates is a good place to start, followed by m:Help:Template. -- Orthotopetalk 04:34, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Could it possibly be short for if equal?75.165.42.19 23:53, 18 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not really sure what you're referring to. If you mean just the  parser function itself, then yes, it's short for "if equal". If it helps, you can "read" it from left to right:   might be read as something like "if the parameter '  ' is equal to 'foo', do 'bar', else do 'quux'". 「 ディノ 奴  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:34, 19 April 2015 (UTC)