Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard

Persistant vandal on Tutorials/Units of measure, can it get protected
There is an ip that keeps changing information on Tutorials/Units of measure, me and several others have reverted the changes but they almost always made new ones after. Is there any way the page can get protected. jjlr (talk) 11:50, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Can't edit links of my own program
When trying to update the links for my own program (WorldPainter) on the Mapping page, I was unpleasantly surprised to be confronted with the following text: "Your action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. A brief description of the matched abuse rule for your action is: Global AF - New user adding link at end or in heading If you believe your edit was constructive, please post a message on the admin noticeboard or notify an admin directly." I believe my edit was constructive. How do I go about changing the links for my program on that page? 83.87.130.122 15:07, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Edits from IP addresses are necessarily suspect on a platform that is prone to spam / vandalism. If you create an account and make enough edits while logged in to that account to become trusted, then you should have no problem — Game widow (talk) 15:16, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright, I managed to dredge up my old Minecraftforum/Minecraftwiki/Curse/Gamepedia/Twitch/Whatever account and it let me do it. Thanks! I seem to remember that the reason I usually do this anonymously is that the sessions here were annoyingly short. Can I configure somewhere how long I want to stay logged in? Captain Chaos (talk) 15:37, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * At the rate such questions are asked, I think a mention in the noticeboard header may be beneficial. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 15:45, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I wonder whether it might be worthwhile to change the text of that notification. Telling legitimate users that their attempts to contribute are "harmful" might put them off, while malicious users won't care what you say. Captain Chaos (talk) 16:02, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It is difficult to craft a message that works in all instances and does not give spammers / vandals the information they need to defeat the filter — Game widow (talk) 16:19, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Archiving
Guys, I'm only going to say this once: if a topic on this page is archivable, just archive it. There's no point in moving stuff to a "ready to be archived" section, and no requirement that an admin be the one to do the actual archiving. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:58, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I agree that there's not really any use of the "archivable issues" section - once an issue is definitely solved, there's no reason to keep it here; it just clutters up the page. So are you saying that we should go ahead and create Archive 30 and call it "Jan - May 2017" or something, move the existing archivable issues there, remove that section, and for future reference go ahead and add any solved issues directly to Archive 30, unless it's after May 2017? Or do you have another idea?-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 12:21, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * If all the discussions currently in that section were wrapped up in that timeframe, yes; otherwise the discussion should be archived to the appropriate-dated archive page. The only other suggestion I'd have about this would be to formalize what date ranges each new archive covers, and how long after the conclusion of a discussion to wait before archiving (my immediate thought would be three months for both of those, but there's no reason they have to be the same either). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 12:47, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Yep, we should archive this page. If anyone want's to continue their discussion, they should make a new topic in the new page.--Skylord wars (talk) 13:01, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I would suggest an entirely different archival method, as well as wiki-wide archival guidelines. However, this is beyond the scope of this page. I suggest creating a new topic at Minecraft Wiki talk:Talk page guidelines. For some reason, there were two archival-related proposals on that page, but apparently neither passed. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 13:02, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The only alternative archival method I'd suggest would be to have an archival bot automatically handle archiving pages. There are plenty of examples running on Wikipedia, many with public code that could be reused. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 13:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * What I meant was that instead of determining archivable topics by date range we would e. g. place a fixed number of topics in each archive (on non-user talk pages). I find substantial flaws in date range based archiving. I will explain further in my next post. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 13:13, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia generally uses size in bytes. Number of discussions is better than date range, but a single monstrous thread can still drastically inflate the size of an archive. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:35, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The original purpose of the archivable issues section was for me to separate them from the other issues, so that someone other than me could archive the bunch. I've learned a bit about the process now and I think I can do it myself as well when needed. But for now, I've kept the separation because the issues could not be/were not archived at once and I needed more tips about those dates to do the remaining. I agree the archives are not necessarily easily organized by date, because I'd ask myself a lot of questions before it's clear to me. Do I archive issues that were created or those that were updated within a certain date range? What about issues that were solved before but replied to after? Indeed what about thread length (mentioned above as well). Or issues that have not been marked as fixed/resolved but are indeed actually fixed? I had a lot of more detailed questions as well that I forgot, but simply put it was too much for me to just do myself. I really don't mind if we just archive the remaining issues now and break out the hard headers again, but I think we really need to agree to a set of rules and finalize them somewhere before we do. Currently the separation works for splitting the task of solving and archiving a subject between different editors (so I do think the separation is still useful to some extent). I really like the bot idea, but I don't know how they work and if they can follow the rules we'd set to the process. I'm sorry if it became unclear as to who should have done the archiving. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 10:38, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure, after my archiving edits got reverted, that what archive page the post should be archived to depends on is the date that the last comment was posted for that subject, even if it was after the issue was resolved (please correct me if I'm wrong). Honestly, I don't think we need a bot - I'd be happy to archive any solved issues, and some editors may be willing to as well. Unlike Wikipedia, we don't have a trillion issues that need to be archived every hour to prevent mass overload, so although a bot would be nice, there's no need to wait until we have a bot to start archiving.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 13:27, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Archiving should be done from date of last comment, yes. As long as we settle on a timeframe of inactivity past which sections get archived, it doesn't matter whether the section is marked as resolved (or even is resolved), since any section with a last comment older than the cutoff would be archived. And for unresolved topics that get archived, if someone wants to raise the issue again, they can either unarchive the section or just start a new one.
 * I agree a bot would be overkill for us on a single page, but if we used one I'd strongly recommend it handle archiving all talk pages on the wiki, rather than individual opted-in pages (though we'd also still want a mechanism for opting in, since e.g. this page is a discussion page which is not in a talk namespace, and we'd also want a mechanism for customizing the cutoff date and archive size, or even opting out of auto-archiving, e.g. to allow individual editors to control archiving of their talk page). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:13, 17 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, I've archived all of the archivable issues now (/Archive 30) but I will wait to remove them from this page until an admin adds the new archive to the header. For future reference, I would suggest lowering the header protection to semi- OR, better yet, has the archive nav on a separate page.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 18:46, 17 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Regarding the global bot. To keep track of what the bot should and should not archive, it could globally opt-in those whole namespaces that we know, like Talk:(main) and Talk:Minecraft Wiki for instance, and for those pages that need to be excluded from those global settings, get a tag on the page, e.g.  or , depending on whether it wants to add to or remove from the global setting of that namespace, respectively. But I'm not sure how bots work (efficiently). – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 07:58, 18 April 2018 (UTC)


 * As I've said before, bot archiving is largely a solved problem; there's little reason not to just adapt a Wikipedia archive bot with publicly-available code. In particular, for opt-in or opt-out of specific pages, we'd use something like wikipedia:User:MiszaBot/config. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 14:59, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

User subpages don't redlink
For some reason user subpages don't redlink anymore—why is this? – Nixinova   07:39, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Am I correct to assume you're talking about links to non-existing subpages of a userpage? Like User:Jack McKalling/get to the chopper? I've noticed that too some time ago, didn't think of it. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 07:50, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Simple edit - unable to submit
Trying to submit the new design for a clock circuit:

Dropper-Dropper clock
Simple design that does not require iron or pistons of any kind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJLxY6q7GxA

I understand the wiki has a rule that prevents new users from posting link. Please review the above edit and add to the "Clock circuit" page. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 103.10.197.194 (talk) at 12:33, 27 April 2018‎ (UTC). Please sign your posts with

Global AF caught my constructive edit
I tried to edit Tutorials/Update_Java to reflect the current status of Oracle's Java versions. I got an error message telling me to post here: Your action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. A brief description of the matched abuse rule for your action is: Global AF - New user adding link at end or in heading If you believe your edit was constructive, please post a message on the admin noticeboard or notify an admin directly. --79.242.6.179 10:23, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Yep, that's the abuse filter. Can you tell us what edit you were trying to make? If you can, then we may be able to do it for you. This specific filter likely blocks all unregistered users as well as registered users who have not made 3 edits yet.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 12:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Three things, mainly:
 * I changed the terminology so that "development versions" (they're not really development vesions) are now referred to as "short-term support versions", same for "stable" and "long-term support versions".
 * The Java 9 download link is now broken because Oracle removed it from their downloads, so I removed that and added a Note with a link to the Java Archive, also saying that Java 9 is no longer supported, will no longer receive security updates and that Oracle recommends you don't use Java 9.
 * I cited the Java Archive page and the the page where Oracle lays out the End-Of-Life dates of Java releases.
 * Updated the latest versions to 1.8.0_172 and 10.0.1
 * The complete new wikitext that I tried to change it to can be found at https://pastebin.com/raw/4yG5vR4s --79.242.6.179 17:24, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Ninjaedited the above to include cited links separately because I feared the AF might catch my contribution to this page if I included all the links. --79.242.6.179 17:28, 29 April 2018 (UTC)  Ninjaedited the above again to include the "Updatedthe latest versions" because I completely forgot that change. Sorry! --79.242.6.179 17:40, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Reduce issues pages protection down to semi- and note on /video pages
I suggest that we reduce the protection on issues pages down to semi. Although usually these pages don't need editing, you really just never know. Specifically, many pages and files are being moved to more appropriate names, causing a lot of links to need to be updated. If semi protection doesn't work out, then maybe we can go up to full again, but I really don't think full protection is necessary anymore.

On a similar note, I suggest reducing the number/types of users that are affected by the AF on the /video subpages. The abuse filter is one of the areas of wikis that I'm really not knowledgeable in, but would it be possible to do something like only allow users to edit it only if they have made at least 200 edits to the wiki or something like that? I know there's some kind of filter that filters registered users that have made less than 3 edits from performing certain actions, which is why I would even think something like this would be possible. I'm not sure if it would be a great idea to allow any registered user to edit video pages, but if something like a minimum of 200 edits is possible, I think it would be beneficial to try doing that for the /video subpages and see how it goes.

Oh, and one more thing. Are we going to start demoting admins who have been inactive for over a year? This was discussed on the community portal talk page and has now been archived, and it seems like most of the community supported this idea, but none of the admins who haven't edited in years have been demoted since.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 02:32, 3 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't have much comment on the protections, other than to note that /video protection specifically is a policy that was put in place when Curse was still producing videos for the wiki, at their request; the edit filter is a natural extension of that policy. It is definitely technically possible to change it to only apply to editors with fewer than x edits, but I'm not prepared to do so without a comment from or another Curse person giving the okay.
 * The inactive admin demotion not happening yet is just because I haven't taken the time to write up a notice and drop it on admins' talk pages. If anyone else wants to do so before I get around to it, feel free, and drop me a list of notified accounts on my talk page. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * If a video is out of date, then whether or not Curse produced it, it is fine to remove — Game widow (talk) 11:54, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

"Talk" button doesn't work
The "talk" button in the drop-down box in the top right doesn't work. – Nixinova   07:14, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you mean, it works for me? Or has it been fixed already. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 10:58, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Abuse filter for Java Edition hardware performance/entries
So many entries added by IPs are completely empty (see history). Maybe a filter could be set up to prevent it? --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 16:45, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Personally I consider this extremely excessive vandalism instead, I'd vote for semi-protection. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 07:49, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * More likely to be testing than vandalism, I think. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 07:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * But still, I think that page should only be edited by trusted editors instead of everyone (because of this excess of malformed edits). There is a warning message on the page with instructions below it. Even in the edit form there are custom instructions. It's just no excuse IMHO to keep doing this like they have. I feel like if these IP editors cannot behave as requested, the page should get protected from them. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 10:08, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * ...Why do we even have that page in the first place? --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 10:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know, I'm just defending the case of the page. It's been going on for more than half a year. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 10:13, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Putting aside the fact whether the page should be kept at all, I've drafted an abuse filter which when testing against the recent changes to that page, prevents all of the blank entries from being added and does not have any false positives so far. There are a few cons to using the current abuse filter, and I'm sure there are multiple ways it could be improved by somebody who's more advanced with AF coding than me:


 * It currently only works for users with less than 10 edits, meaning that if somebody made more than 10 edits and then added a blank entry it would succeed
 * This one's probably the worst of all - if a user made less then 10 edits, they can't revert an edit adding a blank entry, because abuse filters apparently cannot detect the number of bytes added in an edit - only the number of bytes changed, which is... very annoying. With my last revision, this is no longer the case. The abuse filter will now allow an edit to be made that has a change size of 188 bytes IF it removes the text "{{HardwareEntry", meaning that users who made less than 10 edits should be able to revert blank entries now just fine.
 * If anybody adds or removes even 1 character, the edit would succeed, due to the abuse filter only disallowing the edit if it adds exactly 188 bytes.


 * I'm currently going to be changing a lot of stuff with the draft to see how it works, so some of these problems may be fixed.-- Madminecrafter12 {{sup|Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png}} 20:56, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I just went ahead and added the AF - when I tested it it disallowed all of the edits that added blank entries, and didn't hit any false positives. We may eventually just delete the page, but I do think the abuse filter will be very helpful in the meantime or if we don't end up deleted it.-- Madminecrafter12 {{sup|Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png}} 13:09, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Why do we even keep Java Edition HW performance data?
What's the purpose of users submitting their JE performance data?

Pro:

Contra:
 * There are external benchmarking software programs, some of them with more maintained and comprehensive result databases, which may also include submission verification.
 * There are official system requirements, and a free demonstration version to determine whether/how your computer runs MC.
 * A substantial portion of users are likely to use unofficial content which impacts performance (such as modifications or higher/lower resolution texture packs), making vanilla measurements not very useful.
 * Users are submitting bogus entries almost all the time. We have to revert it.
 * There are just too many factors affecting PC performance in general, far more than on mobile devices.

I propose we delete Java Edition hardware performance and all related pages. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 10:28, 13 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Bedrock Edition hardware performance isn't at all scientific either, so also isn't useful. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 11:06, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't it be archived and protected instead like with the old issues pages? - MinecraftPhotos4U (talk) 11:26, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Aren't issues pages just as pointless now? Oh, and there's recently been a proposal to unprotect issues pages.
 * The problem is maintenance. Unless it's deleted, we have to maintain it. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 11:29, 13 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Issue pages document historical bugs. If we knew all that data was documented elsewhere (maybe even including who reported it?), such as the issue tracker, then they could be deleted. The hardware performance pages don't contain any reliable information to begin with, so there's no reason to archive them. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 11:42, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Letting users to submitting their performance data is complete useless. People only see the minimum requirements and recommended requirements. This page should only show the requirements, not the performance. The page Server/Requirements is long not updated. Server software from Mojang is completely free, so there is no need to worry. List of request for deletion page:
 * Java Edition hardware performance
 * Java Edition hardware performance/entries
 * These pages should instead be redirected to Java Edition hardware requirements. Skylord wars (talk) 11:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Pinging as he is the main maintainer of the Java Edition HW page. – KnightMiner  · (t) 23:53, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Didn't receive a notification for this, thanks Internet!
 * Anyway, I have to agree that even with all the effort that we put into this to keep the benchmarks semi-reliable for the benefit of others .. it's definitely not the best way to go about benchmarking and sharing data seeing as the way we ask users - with full trust not to manipulate or poison the end results - to get that data is based on opinion of what may work best. It's sad to think that to hours of work I put into it are a bit of a waste but yet that seemed rather inevitable when I started. I can't see this data being useful for future use as most modern machines will run this software just fine anyway. I can see it being good for only archival use going forward. -- RhythmicDaze (Edits)

It looks like there is consensus that these pages should not be kept. Given these pages were rather prominent, it is likely they should be redirected instead of deleting, possibly with notices at redirect target pages.

A proposed list of redirections follows:
 * 1) To Java Edition hardware requirements:
 * 2) Java Edition hardware performance, with all subpages deleted instead of redirecting.
 * 3) To Bedrock Edition:
 * 4) Bedrock Edition hardware performance,
 * 5) Bedrock Edition hardware performance (Android),
 * 6) Bedrock Edition hardware performance (iOS)

Other notes:
 * Hardware performance currently redirects to the JE page, but could be turned into a disambiguation page. Same with Hardware requirements.

Requesting comments. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 09:51, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Looks good – Jack McKalling [ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 09:59, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Sounds decent, though I would redirect one of Hardware performance to Hardware requirements rather than keeping separate disambig articles, especially since the performance pages already will redirect to requirements. – KnightMiner  · (t) 15:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Should I perform the proposed actions with KnightMiner's amendment? I will assume the answer is "yes" unless someone objects and explains the objection. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 18:02, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Acting on it now. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 09:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Cleanup task is completed. No double or broken redirects remain. Links to deleted pages in userspace have not been addressed. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 10:11, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Broken page
Is it just me or is the layout of User:Nixinova/stats completely broken? – Nixinova   05:17, 20 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The user navigation template was inside of the documentation template, moving it outside appeared to fix the issue (hope you didn't mind). - Sonicwave ( talk )  05:24, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Old issue pages
Why aren't the old issue pages deleted? They don't contain any kind of useful information and some of them are horribly long, such as Issues/1.3.1, which is almost half megabyte in size. I think deleting such long and deprecated pages would be a good idea. 85.76.82.187 11:17, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The issues pages may not be of interest to you (or me, to be honest), but they have historical value to lots of people, particularly those who reported bugs or commented on them. Also, since most of the bugs reported on these pages were never transferred into the bug tracker, this may be the only record that certain bugs ever existed or were fixed. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 18:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Repeated vandalism on Generated structures
On the generated structures page, there has been an IP user who has edited the same "illigitimate" misinformation about elytra for, three, times, in a sentence that does't even make sense that way. These are the only edits of this IP. Could something be done about this user or page? – [ Jack McKalling ] 18:54, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * HorseHead.png MarkusRost (talk) 19:11, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive editing/false info on the turtle egg page, after being warned. I suggest maybe a week-long block? Similarly, it appears that is doing the same thing - I find it probable that Almightyhat4911 logged out and performed more edits.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 00:45, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Now 107.77.202.231's vandalism on that page is getting out of hand to. I'm going to start pinging people on Slack.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 00:53, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and resaved the page from right before the vandalism started, they had deleted everything leaving it blank. jjlr (talk) 00:56, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

See the history for 18w21a. This IP won't stop vandalizing the page.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 23:28, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Could someone possibly lock the page to only allow edits from confirmed users. jjlr (talk) 23:30, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Don't think protection would be necessary right now, as this is the only IP that has vandalized the page so far. I do think this IP should definitely be blocked for a week or two. Most IPs seem to just make one joke edit and never return, but this one will not stop.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 23:32, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Trying pinging local admins first.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 23:34, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * ? Trying to avoid pinging GRASP, but something has got to give.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 23:35, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

and Stop reverting the page for now, i have a copy of the version right before the vandalism started, it isn't worth a reversion war i can just repair it once it gets protected. jjlr (talk) 23:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

they are replacing the page with obscenities now. An ip block or locking the page would be nice. jjlr (talk)

Thank you. jjlr (talk) 23:47, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * User is blocked.
 * For the record, with this type of vandal the main thing he wanted is attention/to infuriate people, so sometimes they become bored after "winning" for a bit. Its does not feel right to leave vandalism on a page, but its not going to accomplish much to keep reverting unless he stops, and this type rarely stops if they continue to be reverted. – KnightMiner  · (t) 23:59, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Saving a copy of a page from prior to vandalism isn't necessary; every edit to every page is saved permanently in the page's history, accessible by clicking the "History" tab at the top of the page, and any revision can be restored in this way. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:55, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I am aware of that, i have actually restored vandalism that spans multiple edits by resaving the last un-vandalized version before, I had simply copied the source itself because at the time it was the simplest thing to do. jjlr (talk) 05:00, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Nintendo Switch Version History Link on Homepage
On the homepage the link to go to the history for the Switch version uses #14 when it should be using #s14 and it goes to the wrong entry every time because of it. This is an issue that's been happening constantly for ages. --Pizza2004 (talk) 02:14, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I looked at fixing this, but to be honest I just can't wrap my head around the tangle of nested templates responsible for creating those links well enough to know what to change. I can say that it's something in Version link, but beyond that I'm lost. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:04, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * . I ended up having to add a new prefix to version link for Switch as right now Console always redirects to the Wii U version, and both versions use the same format. – KnightMiner  · (t) 06:01, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Honestly that whole mess should be replaced with a module, but it'd have to be someone who's actually competent in Lua, unlike me. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:00, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * In the case of version link, yeah, its a bit of a mess, but with how frequently it is used and how simple it's remaining code is overall I'm not sure its worth the extra overhead of invoking a module. – KnightMiner  · (t) 15:22, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm referring to the whole collection of version templates, not just version link. (Of course, it's also distinctly possible that I'm just overblowing the problem in my mind...) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:43, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

issue with user pages
Hello. On my user page, when I try to add, and trying to publishing the edit, will I appear logged out, it is usually technical error which causes I to automatically log out, it is a huge error and I want to have the template to my user page, and I not want to be logged out automatically when I try to save the edit. It also occured earlier today while in school, I got logged out and could not publish the edit, I saw on the screen:

Error: Your edit could not be saved due to a technical error. Please try again later.

Error code:685

Please search the systems for the error and then fix it.  Psl85  ♦ Chat with me ♦ ᗒ My Contributions ᗕ  13:41, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Special:Contributions isn't a template, it's a page. When you put it in the template syntax, you're telling the MediaWiki software to interpret it as a template, but because it's just ordinary text that won't work. There is a way to show your contributions on your user page, but I wouldn't advise it because it would it's relatively expensive in terms of server load. By the way, your signature is ugly and hard to read. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 13:56, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Also, in your particular instance, because of how this "transclusion" works like Auldrick said above, some of the new pages that you created that are being listed, are actually processed as code. So instead of showing  it would actually process any and all partial codes that said text contains, messing up a lot of stuff during page rendering. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 14:06, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I updated my signature to non-ugly signature, I updated to this text:  Psl85   T   C    Psl85   T   C   14:08, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * - Although as Jack McKalling and Auldrick pointed out, you can't completely transclude your contributions, as that would mess a lot of things up, you can show your most recent 5, 10, 25, etc. contributions. To do this, add the following:




 * Also, as for your signature, I can read it just fine, although you may want to further distinguish the colors of the background from the text. I certainly wouldn't call it "ugly."-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 14:17, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * This is a long-standing and known issue. The solution to this is simply to not include  into any page. If you encounter a page that includes it, please notify the admins so they can remove it or comment it out. | violine1101(Talk) 14:29, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The issue think I is problematic, and I want to have a template of most recent contributions on my page, the transclusion works, but I appear logged out when I try to save the edit and seeing the error message for "the edit could not be saved due to a technical error" and appear logged out. I did NOT like the error.  Psl85   T   C   17:36, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, the same issue happend to me about a year ago. I did notify Curse but it has not been fixed since. | violine1101(Talk) 17:41, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I did notify Curse staff again, and they're looking into it. | violine1101(Talk) 18:16, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * You might want to enter  (with  as the parameter) or Special:Contributions/Psl85 and see if that works. – ItsPlantseed ⟨₰|₢⟩ 18:12, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I tried it, but the system will log me out again. If I get logged out, needs I to click "Log In" at the top, go to Gamepedia Portal and then click "Log In" and then will I get back to the Minecraft Wikipedia logged in. The issue is terrible, I DO NOT like it. --  Psl85   Talk   Contribs  19:11, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * As pointed out above, the transclusion of this special page is just not intended (as of yet, until fixed by gamepedia). The suggestions for using it are to be taken "if it works for you". If it doesn't, please use an alternative to showing contributions like this and just be patient as you look out for gamepedia fixing the issue. There is nothing else we can do right now I'm afraid. – [ Jack McKalling ] [ Grid Book.png Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 19:16, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Delete
Hi! I need to upload an image and add it to the template:Delete page, but the page is protected, I cannot make it, and an admin needs to do it for me, and I need also make some larger changes to the template, please can the protection level be lowered from "sysop" to "autoconfirmed" so I can upload a trash bin image from Wiki Pedia and use it on the delete template and make some layout changes to the template? After I are done can the protection level be raised to "sysop" again. Please can this be done? --  psl85  &#9742; Talk  18:38, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * . There are still unresolved discussions about those templates going on, which need concensus before the templates should be modified. Please refer to for instance, this discussion about deleting redirects and its main WIP project here. After that discussion, the delete and speedy delete templates may need to be radically revisited. – Jack McKalling [ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 18:56, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Instead of lowering the protection so you can edit it, normally what is done is the changes are proposed on a talk page and an admin will add them once approved. So start a conversation there about what layout changes you wish to make, preferably by adding a mockup, and if there is a concensus someone will update it. – KnightMiner  · (t) 19:27, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Vandalizing IP not blocked yet
The IP has been vandalizing 8 pages spread over the last month, and all their edits have been reverted except for  and, which weren't vandalism. But shouldn't they get blocked by now? – Jack McKalling 08:23, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The reverted edits look more playful than malicious, and the IP has no talk page so they haven't even been given a warning yet. Plus, it's not like they're vandalizing multiple times a day: It's once every few days, and they have made a couple of good edits. I don't think the admins are going to block anybody like this (especially an IP that might be shared with other users) without at least a few warnings. – Auldrick (talk &middot; contribs) 13:20, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Okay but then what about these cases of vandalism of page Drowned:, and. Although the latter again only has made one edit, but I'm mentioning for completeness. In total they've made 17 consequtive edits, which someone rewound in the following edit. – Jack McKalling 20:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
 * blocked -Xbony2 (GRASP) (FTB Wiki Admin) (talk) 20:53, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! – Jack McKalling [ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 20:55, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I notice this IP user has been blocked before for 3 days due to vandalism, but has again done more of it today on two pages (both edits already dealt with), the day their block expired. Should they be blocked for longer? – Jack McKalling 14:13, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Not blocking yet because they seem to have stopped. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 14:15, 18 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm a bit borderline about that one. Mainly because the type of vandalism is not really a huge deal, just very small number changes and not, e.g. blanking whole pages and replacing them with gibberish. Also, they seem to have stopped now after just making 2 edits. I personally would block them for a week or so if they continue. However, if another admin or GRASP thinks that they should go ahead and be blocked, I hold no objections whatsoever.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 14:17, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Missing CSS
I seem to be missing a few CSS classes, and nothing I try – except going incognito – will fix this. This is what Special:RecentChanges looks like to me:. Please help. – Nixinova  03:25, 9 June 2018 (UTC) Also the "Preview", "edit", and "changes" buttons don't appear when editing. – Nixinova  05:37, 9 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Try clearing your cookies of this page. It may work. skylord_wars (talk) 06:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes! Thank you. – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png 08:03, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Way to bulk upload several alticles/images?
Is it possible to upload several articles and images at once? If possible, how do I achieve that? --Alswo9628(4) — ko.Admin (talk) 01:49, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * There is no way (afaik) to mass-upload images, and I'm not sure what you mean by "upload several articles". – Nixinova Grid_Book_and_Quill.png Grid_Diamond_Pickaxe.png 04:32, 15 June 2018 (UTC)


 * You can mass upload images by dragging them in to the big blue "drop files here" box when editing, or by pressing the upload icon in the toolbar. Admins can mass create articles from other wikis with the import function. –Majr ᐸ Talk Contribs 10:16, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Editing page errors
All JavaScript won't work when I'm editing a page. Does not happen when viewing source of page or adding new section. Errors in console: Exception in module-execute in module ext.visualEditor.targetLoader: ReferenceError: locat1on is not defined ReferenceError: locat1on is not defined at eval (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :567:477) at eval (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :564:6402) at new Uri (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :564:6588) at eval (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :589:2644) at mw.loader.implement.visualeditor-loaderror-message (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :593:622) at Object. (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:161) at fire (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:45) at Object.add [as done] (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:45) at Object.always (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:46) at runScript (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:160) Exception in module-execute in module ext.echo.init: ReferenceError: locat1on is not defined ReferenceError: locat1on is not defined at eval (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :567:477) at eval (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :564:6402) at new Uri (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :564:6588) at load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.MsUpload|ext.echo.init|oojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=hydra&version=05rfiks:126 at load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.MsUpload|ext.echo.init|oojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=hydra&version=05rfiks:129 at Object. (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:161) at fire (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:45) at Object.add [as done] (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:45) at Object.always (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:46) at runScript (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:160) Exception in module-execute in module ext.visualEditor.desktopArticleTarget.init: ReferenceError: locat1on is not defined ReferenceError: locat1on is not defined at eval (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :567:477) at eval (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :564:6402) at new Uri (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :564:6588) at eval (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :574:794) at mw.loader.implement.css (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :589:220) at Object. (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:161) at fire (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:45) at Object.add [as done] (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:45) at Object.always (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:46) at runScript (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:160) Uncaught ReferenceError: locat1on is not defined at Object.getParamValue (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :24:58) at HTMLDocument.eval (eval at (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:4), :499:564) at fire (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:45) at Object.fireWith [as resolveWith] (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:46) at Function.ready (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:49) at HTMLDocument.completed (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=hydra&version=1rkfg73:49)


 * Nevermind, just by clearing cookies fixed it – ITechieGamertce 07:34, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

despawning mechanics edit
I was adding a little part to the page spawn in the section about +128 blocks away despawning, but a filter prevented me to make the edit, and I can't even write my text here. what am I supposed to do now? --Mortealre (talk) 22:41, 23 June 2018 (UTC)


 * - thanks for reporting. I went ahead and added that to the Spawn page (and given you the credit =)), modifying a few grammatical/spelling errors and slightly rewording a sentence or two. I've been looking at the abuse filter rule 6 (the rule that your edit was caught in), and I'm not sure what word you added that triggered it. Somebody who's more advanced with abuse filter coding probably knows though, and this may be worth investigating. Anyways, once you've made 10 edits to this wiki you shouldn't be affected by that filter as well as most other filters.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 23:39, 23 June 2018 (UTC)


 * "Happen is" was the phrase setting off the filter; its processing ignores whitespace. I think that's been an issue before as well, though it doesn't come up much. -- Orthotopetalk 00:07, 24 June 2018 (UTC)


 * That one is hard to filter properly, because we cannot tell in prior, if they deliberately inserted spaces to write the filtered word, or just happen to put these two legitimate words together in a sentence. You can't filter out all the false positives from a filter, it'd be an endless fight to pluck all possible loopholes. But excluding this word combination from the filter could work until someone else finds another false positive... – Jack McKalling [ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 11:00, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 * thank you, I didn't think you could see my edit. --Mortealre (talk) 11:17, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Normal users aren't able to see edits that were caught in the abuse filter, but administrators can. And as for the filter itself, there are two sections that words can be put into: a section where it disallows the words regardless of whitespace and special characters, and a section where it only disallows the word if there is no whitespace or special characters. We might should try moving the word to the second section, as "happen is" does seem like it would occur quite commonly.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 12:26, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Cannot post a link to a video for "an unwanted word" in the URL
I tried to add a link to a Youtube video whose ID accidentally contains a combination of three letters that has been interpreted as a bad word by an automated filter. This filter doesn`t distinguish between intentional swearing and immutable letter combinations. I think this means that there is a huge amount of webpages that are unavailable to link in this wiki because of this issue; it is very easy for a combination of 3 letters like this to be accidentally formed. 139.47.29.138 23:12, 21 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Maybe we should remove the word that disallowed the edit (the F word but without the U) altogether from the disallowed words, as I don't think it would really be used that often for vandalism. I've also thought about restricting the filter as a whole to only non-talk namespaces. This would result in a lot of talk namespace vandalism/spam, though. A better idea may be to have a list of words that are only disallowed in non-talk namespaces, and a separate list for ones that are disallowed in all namespaces.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 23:25, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * the suggestion about removing the word from the filter. I don't know much about the filter so I can't tell about your other options. If removing this word suddenly opens up more spam, it can still be looked into again. – Jack McKalling [ Grid Book and Quill.png Grid Diamond Pickaxe.png ] 08:35, 23 July 2018 (UTC)