Talk:Instant mining

Avoiding redundancy in this page
An anonymous contributor to this wiki recently added information to this page (showing how you could have a lower Efficiency level but the Haste effect, and still mine instantly, etc.) This is accurate, but makes the page somewhat repeating, as shown below:

Moreover, keeping the same logic, this could be expanded even further by talking also about iron pickaxes, gold pickaxes, etc. with various Efficiency and Haste levels, making the page almost unreadable.

To avoid this redundancy, I think we should only show the simplest way to break blocks in a survival context. Here is the list I propose, from simplest to hardest:
 * unenchanted wooden -> stone -> iron -> diamond tools
 * enchanted diamond tools (without Haste)
 * enchanted netherite tools (without Haste)
 * enchanted netherite tools (with Haste)
 * enchanted gold tools (with Haste)

Haste is pushed at the end because it's more end-game than everything else, and also because it only has practical uses in player bases, and obviously not in the wild. Gold tools are at the very end because they aren't a viable option in survival, and are only there for the completeness of the page.

If you have objections, please answer to this post. Sagessylu (discuss | edits) 10:12, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The information is still useful. Netherite and diamonds are very expensive, so it makes sense to list what levels of efficiency one would need on lower tier items to instant mine certain blocks. For example, I looked this page up to see what level of efficiency I'd need on a diamond shovel, because I'm not wasting my netherite on that - although I might just save the diamond and go for iron with mending. I propose the following:


 * {| class="wikitable"


 * rowspan=1 |
 * style="text-align:center"| Efficiency III
 * rowspan=3 |
 * rowspan=2 |
 * style="text-align:center"| Efficiency III Haste I
 * style="text-align:center"| Efficiency IV
 * }
 * Blue Banana whotookthisname (talk) 14:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * }
 * Blue Banana whotookthisname (talk) 14:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Blue Banana whotookthisname (talk) 14:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Alternatively, the combinations of tools, efficiency, and haste should be in order of speed, such that any combination can also mine the blocks that a combination below it can. Each combination should be listed, even if it does not enable any blocks to be instant mined a combination below it already doesn't, so there could be lines like:


 * {| class="wikitable"


 * rowspan=1 |
 * style="text-align:center"| Efficiency IV
 * }
 * }


 * Which would be combined with the above suggestion for combinations with identical speeds. Blue Banana whotookthisname (talk) 14:34, 30 July 2020 (UTC)


 * {|class=wikitable

! colspan="4" | Pickaxe ! Hardness ! Tier ! Efficiency and Haste level ! Blocks instantly mined ! rowspan="3" | 1.5 ! rowspan="5" | 1.4
 * style="text-align:center" | Efficiency V Haste I
 * rowspan="3" |
 * rowspan="3" |
 * rowspan="2" style="text-align:center" | Efficiency V Haste II
 * rowspan="2" style="text-align:center" | Efficiency V Haste II
 * rowspan="2" style="text-align:center" | Efficiency V Haste II
 * rowspan="2" style="text-align:center" | Efficiency V Haste I
 * rowspan="5" |
 * rowspan="3" style="text-align:center" | Efficiency V Haste II
 * } Maybe it could go like this? The full version is at User:Unavailablehoax/Instant mining – Unavailablehoax (talk) 11:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * rowspan="3" style="text-align:center" | Efficiency V Haste II
 * } Maybe it could go like this? The full version is at User:Unavailablehoax/Instant mining – Unavailablehoax (talk) 11:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * rowspan="3" style="text-align:center" | Efficiency V Haste II
 * } Maybe it could go like this? The full version is at User:Unavailablehoax/Instant mining – Unavailablehoax (talk) 11:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * } Maybe it could go like this? The full version is at User:Unavailablehoax/Instant mining – Unavailablehoax (talk) 11:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * } Maybe it could go like this? The full version is at User:Unavailablehoax/Instant mining – Unavailablehoax (talk) 11:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * } Maybe it could go like this? The full version is at User:Unavailablehoax/Instant mining – Unavailablehoax (talk) 11:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * } Maybe it could go like this? The full version is at User:Unavailablehoax/Instant mining – Unavailablehoax (talk) 11:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * } Maybe it could go like this? The full version is at User:Unavailablehoax/Instant mining – Unavailablehoax (talk) 11:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Java vs Bedrock Edition?
Can there be some indication as to whether this information is applicable to Java or Bedrock edition or both? 207.181.226.129 17:18, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * No indication is given when page content is applicable to current releases of both editions; Template:Only is used when a feature is exclusive to a certain edition. --Underfell Flowey (talk) 17:38, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

History related issues
I just edited the history section. I noticed that in release 1.2.5, shears cannot break leaves as rapidly as they currently do, but in release 1.3.1, they work exactly as they do today. However due to the limitations of the launcher, I cannot verify the exact snapshot when this feature was added. Can anyone with the proper resources help with this? Windwend (talk) 21:21, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * – Unavailablehoax (talk) 20:27, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Just like to know how you found out the exact snapshot.

Also, there's another change happening in 1.3.1. Before this version, tools lose durability even if the broken block can be instantly mined by hand. I'm not sure which snapshot they changed this either. Can you help with this as well?

Windwend (talk) 21:35, 13 October 2020 (UTC)


 * For the first part, almost every Java Edition version page has a download on the infobox. You can download the cilent and .json, then create a folder in with the snapshot name, then put both the cilent and json in that folder and rename both the cilent and json to the folder name. Secondly, the change happens in 12w24a. – Unavailablehoax (talk) 23:07, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! I'll edit the corresponding pages. Windwend (talk) 01:26, 14 October 2020 (UTC)