Talk:Tutorials/Building a metropolis

Page Redone
I just rewrote the entire page. How do you like it? yoshidude56 19:29, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I like it. But it good do with a few edits, no offence :) --120.145.163.117 01:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the feedback :) --Yoshidude56 03:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


 * WHAT THE??!!!! You redid the entire page?! Seriously?? You should have gotten permission from NOCH!!!! --120.145.163.117 01:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * WHO IS THIS "NOCH"? Yoshidude56 01:53, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

I have two things to say. 1. That person means NOTCH, who created Minecraft. 2. Please could you ask around BEFORE you redo it. I like your changes but the original was bigger. However I like the fact that you have tried and you have done a great job. I founded this page, but it does say "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it." Just anyone who reads these words, add suggestions to this new page. Thanks for stopping it from being deleted :) CycloneChilli 18:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 1. I know. 2. Thanks :) Yoshidude56 21:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Suggestions?
Seeming that MCW hasn't got any suggestions along this page, I'll add to it. To start with take off the nightclub, and make it into a disco place instead (I know this sounds dumb because I'm talking about the same thing, but the nightclub has drinks, and yet the "Dance Lounge" has no drinks.). Sound good? Add your suggestions here! –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 101.169.170.157 (Talk) 09:57, 26 June 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * I think there should also be a prison(Not a jail) to hold both players and mobs just for fun. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.221.208.156 (Talk) 15:39, 1 July 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * I know none of us want to lose this page. it is one of the best tutorial pages. It bring life to the usual boring creative mode. For the page's sake plz keep it appropriate. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Builder200000 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 04:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * I've made a backup just in case: User:Mbartelsm/Tutorials/Metropolis, I created an account just for that --Mbartelsm 15:33, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * That backup is actually really useful right now since I'm adding more content from the original page :) Yoshidude56 22:23, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

As a tutorial page, many of these ideas should have an accompanying design, picture, or diagram to help indicate the means to reproduce a number of architectural effects. Without such things, this tutorial page simply becomes a "list of suggestions and ideas." Further, many of the descriptors can be merged, and made more general, to help reduce the sheer size of the lists in this article; e.g. "Weapon Shop", "Armor Shop", "Junk Shop", etc. can simply be called "Shop". Individual concepts can be explained in each section if necessary. Also, explaining the reason to include the concept is unnecessary. The gist of the concept should be reflected in the name or title of the sections or structures. Naming separate structures that serve the same function is redundant.

Last, the article is in dire need of rewriting. It is rife with rhetorical questions and repeated information. Random offender, Landmark: Make something that people know it is your town. It should be something impressive, maybe a model of the deathstar or your skin? Maybe something else, works well on servers if you want the people to know and remember your server. Rewritten: A landmark can help make a map or server unique, and can be used as a reference point for navigation. Aside from the conversational tone, the original section is very subjective and contains pointless text("Maybe something else" part can be struck entirely). If this article can't be rewritten in an objective and concise manner, the information is better contributed to a community section and not a wiki entry. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.54.121.200 (Talk) 07:40, 8 July 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * Listen up. I think we need to redo the entire page, and make it a realistic metropolis. For example, war doesn't sound so good to me. And it's not exactly belonging to a metropolis, if you know what I mean. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.182.45.92 (Talk) 03:27, 16 July 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with


 * No! Minecraft is about fantasy! I mean, when was the last time you saw a green creature that explodes in the street? CycloneChilli 20:21, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Well seriously, if you really think about it, war is not a metropolis type. It's a game type thing, if you know what i mean. I have a good idea that will probably end this. WHEN someone has a suggestion they must get permission from Notch. Sound good? (PS: I want an account, but there's some glitch with the code thing you have to enter so I dunno how to join :[) –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 120.145.163.117 (Talk) 01:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with

About new page revision.
Alright, I have a question. Why do we need to revise the page? This new revision doesn't seem to fix the problems that the original had. No offense Yoshidude, but this new page is a less plentiful, less well kept version of the original. Also, I don't think pictures are going to be any helpful to this page as a whole. While they might be helpful in the fact that it will create a picture for what it could look like, it doesn't inspire creativity, which is what Minecraft and this page is/was all about. Same with the rest of the page, it's pretty much telling the player that this must be this and that must be that, no turning off the path.(e.g. Build this taiga biome, build that with stairs) Excuse me but if we must revise this page it should at least allow somewhat more vague descriptions on what you can do. PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS AND I WOULD LIKE IT IF SOMEONE REPLY TO ME PREFERABLY YOSHIDUDE56.-- | Forevakill |   Talk  21:26, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for sharing your opinion, I'm working on adding more content from the original page and making the tutorial less strict about building patterns. Yoshidude56 22:18, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Uh Thanks. The page still needs a ton of cleanup though. I'll probably upload a backup of the old one for reference.-- | Forevakill |   Talk  23:02, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * A backup isn't necessary, since the old versions are still in the page history (such as ). -- Orthotope 01:25, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That's what I'm using right now yoshidude56 17:06, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem is most people wouldn't search through the edit history for the old version a couple month from now. Making a back-up allows you to instantly get to the page itself.-- | Forevakill |   Talk  03:52, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I like it to, but i agree it feels "bossy"-24.62.109.70 21:59, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

A suggestion for the "shield" of this page
I apologize if this should be on the forum, but I have a suggestion. To protect the page from becoming a list of ideas, perhaps we could make an article.. something called Tutorials/House Ideas. However the metropolis article still has the threat of becoming a list of suggestions so I thought up a plan to prevent it. But before we create one I need to ask around so that I know we have permission. Last of all, if there is already an article about this page I'm talking about, please let me know. I may be an expert on Minecraft (almost!) but I do not know much about the Wiki's articles. --58.170.128.149 10:10, 20 September 2012 (UTC)