Minecraft Wiki talk:Directors

Introductions
Hi all! Welcome to the Directors' page. Feel free to introduce yourselves. If you would like your signatures to point to your user/talk pages on your own wikis, you need to add the language interwiki link to your signature in preferences here. example Wynthyst talk

For those of you who don't know, I'm the Curse.com wiki manager overseeing Minecraft Wiki International. If you have any technical problems, or needs that Curse can assist you with, I'm the one to talk to! -- Wynthyst  talk  20:15, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

icons for notice templates
Hey guys, what you think about icons for some of the notice templates. Like we have it in the german wiki http://de.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Vorlage:Future Greets --The Miner -  Wiki Admin  19:45, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * We already have Template:Msgbox which can use any image at any size, and the use the Template:Comment icon sheet. – ultradude25 ( T at 21:46, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The better. The yellow boxes (Stub, Future, Outdate,...) are pretty ugly :). Greets --The Miner -  Wiki Admin  21:51, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I actually like the German one better :P -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  21:50, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * The yellow boxes are only the default value. The english version is adjustable with CSS and the "mini" version. (and personally I don't like the two cells german version ^_^")  – Scaler (t) 22:10, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't really like the default color that much, but that's what was used originally before the template was created and before I was even here, so I've just stuck with it. It actually functions similar to your version in that is uses two cells, but personally I don't like having a visible divider so the border is hidden to make it look like one cell. There's also the plenty of customization that scaler mentioned. – ultradude25 ( T at 22:55, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Just because they are the default ones i want it to respond to change :). Greets --The Miner -  Wiki Admin  19:13, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Animated Grid/Crafting Table
''This is a copy from User_talk:Wynthyst. I think this is a better place for it...''

On the Dutch wiki I made a template (link) that might be useful here too. It produces a slide-show of crafting grids (or other grids). For now this is done with animated gifs, but it would be far more easy to make and to edit them if you are able to use the Template:Grid/Crafting Table.

Documentation for the template is in Dutch, but it says almost the same I did. You can take a look at the sample code and decide if you like it or not. If is, this is the JavaScript you need to get it working: jQuery(function{jQuery(".GridSlide").each(function{jQuery("div.GridSlideChild:first",this).addClass("active").show});setInterval(function{jQuery(".GridSlide").each(function{var b=jQuery("div.active",this),a=b.next;a.length<1&&(a=jQuery("div.GridSlideChild:first",this));b.removeClass("active").hide;a.addClass("active").show})},2E3)}); And the CSS: .GridSlideChild{display: none;} --STS(t 09:28, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * The original purpose of the grid is to be completely modular (One image can be used for any input/output/etc. on any grid template, with any number next to it), and being able to animate the images without having to make special ones would complete it.
 * However, I would much prefer it to be a function actually in the template. (animate=1?) – ultradude25 ( T at 09:55, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Get it working on the Dutch wiki. Then propose it to all the languages.... I would really like to see all the subdomains using the same stuff.. I know.. difficult but.. we have to start really communicating with the other communities. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  16:51, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Its not a easy task to implement this into the Template:Grid/Crafting Table, the grid template is realy complicated, but I'll give it a try. I'll keep you all posted... --STS(t 17:20, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Work with ultradude25 if you have problems, he is the creator of the crafting table template. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  17:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I've been thinking about how to do this, but for now on the answer is: imposible. I got no acces to any loop function. I found some here and here that should work, but don't. So I think they aren't installed. Is it posible to see if they are installed and if they aren't may install them?--STS(t 17:48, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Which of the two would you prefer. You can see what extensions are installed by going to Special:Version. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:14, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I would prefer this one.--STS(t 19:22, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, it's getting installed on the Dutch wiki. Should be available shortly. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:26, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll place the new template on nl:Sjabloon:Grid/Crafting_Table_New.


 * @Wyn, well I'm not the creator, it's just rather modified from the original version made by User:H3llkn0wz. (I think) – ultradude25 ( T at 03:11, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, you know best about how it works :P -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  03:12, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Kinda, I'm not sure I understand the animated bit yet... >.< – ultradude25 ( T at 03:16, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, work with STS and see if the new script can be incorporated... I was hoping that the new extension would get installed today but it doesn't seem to have happened. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  03:24, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll try, but javascript it rather beyond me. – ultradude25 ( T at 07:31, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I made some edits that should work, but (like you see here) I still can't reach the for loop. Also it's not added to the Dutch version page. Do you know for sure it's installed?
 * For now I only edited the A1 crafting square and it acts exactly like I hoped, so I've good hope it will work.--STS(t 12:25, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I got it working!! Its noet perfect jet, for example numbers will fail if you try to animate them, but it's a start. Take a look at nl:Sjabloon:Grid/Crafting_Table_New to see the current prosses.--STS(t 14:40, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Is it possible to control the speed of the animation? [[Image:User_Felix_Omni_Signature.png]]elix Omni 15:36, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Speed is controled inside the JavaScript. At the and of de javascript you see "2E3", witch means he switches the image every 2*103 (=2000) miliseconds. If you want a higher or lower speed you can just change that number. Please make a test page yourself and try some dirrent number of secconds. Whe nnyou got the speed you want you can post it here so I can eddit the JavaScript
 * Or better yet, you can post it on the template's talk page so I don't have to see it :P -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  17:47, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry for spamming your talk page again :P. I got the template fully working now. I can upload the wikisource to the English wiki, but some admin here has to upload the JavaScript and CSS...


 * JavaScript source:

jQuery(function{jQuery("div.grid-input-slide").each(function{jQuery("span.grid-input:first",this).addClass("active").show});jQuery("div.grid-output-slide").each(function{jQuery("span.grid-output:first",this).addClass("active").show;jQuery("span.grid-output-numbers:first",this).addClass("active").show});setInterval(function{jQuery("div.grid-input-slide").each(function{var b=jQuery("span.active",this),a=b.next;a.length<1&&(a=jQuery("span.grid-input:first",this));b.removeClass("active").hide; a.addClass("active").show});jQuery("div.grid-output-slide").each(function{var b=jQuery("span.grid-output.active",this),a=b.next;if(a.length<1||!a.hasClass("grid-output"))a=jQuery("span.grid-output:first",this);b.removeClass("active").hide;a.addClass("active").show;b=jQuery("span.grid-output-numbers.active",this);a=b.next;a.length<1&&(a=jQuery("span.grid-output-numbers:first",this));b.removeClass("active").hide;a.addClass("active").show})},2E3)});


 * CSS source:

div.grid-input-slide > span.grid-input,div.grid-output-slide > span.grid-output,div.grid-output-slide > span.grid-output-numbers { display:none }
 * STS(t 18:46, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Uploaded all the sources, but it's not working until the JavaScript and CSS are uploaded too...--STS(t 20:20, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

same pictures?
Is it possible to use at all wikis the same pictures? Because I think it's very useless to have everything six times. In wikipedia that works too. -- Oliver Scholz -  German Wiki Admin  07:30, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The English, German, and Dutch wikis share databases. The French, Polish and Russian are separate wikis. This can not be changed. There are issues however in regards to sharing the databases, as we experienced when the English wiki revised the Crafting table template and all the old images were deleted. The deletion was based on the fact those images appeared on the English wiki as Unused files after the template was changed. There is no way for admins on the English wiki to know if images are being used on the German or Dutch wiki. That is one reason this page was created, so that changes that potentially affect multiple wikis are taking place can be discussed. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  08:11, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * But this I don't understand: I have to upload two files (in german and english), but it can delete it with one click? Is it possible to embed english images in the German/Dutch wiki without a second upload? -- Oliver Scholz -  German Wiki Admin  12:19, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * As far as I know if you use the English name of an image that's already here it will appear on the German wiki. This was how it was configured when Curse acquired it, because that's how it was set up by aera and WedTM when the German wiki was added. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  17:25, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No, unfortunately not. You have to upload all the pictures again. That's why I was wondering a few days ago. (your flame was also unavailable.) -- Oliver Scholz -  German Wiki Admin  17:49, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I know that when the Dutch and German wikis were set up, they shared images. To be quite honest, I am not sure how it all works. Again, that whole config was done before Curse acquired the wikis. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  18:20, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Categorization
Hey, whats the reason that you have done almost all notice-templates in different categories? Like Outdatet is child of main and Future is child of minecraft. Greets --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  19:17, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * We haven't gotten that far on the Minecraft Wiki:Projects/Categorization. They will all be put into the Category:Notice templates by the time it's all done. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  21:19, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah ok. Greets --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  21:34, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Minecraft 1.4 is out
Minecraft Beta 1.4


 * Added tameable wolves
 * Added cookies
 * Sleeping in a bed now resets your spawn position
 * New Minecraft logo
 * Holding shift while climbing will hang on to the ladder
 * Spiders will no longer trample crops
 * Lots and lots of infrastructure for Statistics lists and Achievements

While most of the code is written, statistics and achievements won’t show up until the next update. We didn’t quite have time to finish them this week, and didn’t want to delay the update longer.

changelog -- Oliver Scholz -  German Wiki Admin  16:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

unconfirmed new item
Hey, someone knows something more about the new "secret" item? http://de.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hauptseite. Greets --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  12:05, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Completely fake. Delete it. – ultradude25 ( T at 12:56, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Nice date... :) -- Oliver Scholz -  German Wiki Admin  13:04, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats crap. Wanna fight with Crepper :( Cheers --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  16:23, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It's April Fool's Day guys... -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  18:27, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, we know (it is from The Miner and me), but Ultradude25 has bought it. :D -- Oliver Scholz -  German Wiki Admin  10:51, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Skin
We've got a lovely editwar going on in the page about http://www.minecraftskinner.com being a rip-off site. I have no information about this site, does anyone know? – ultradude25 ( T at 23:05, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No sry. I test some skins and the result was exactly the same. Same Title, same author, same descrpition. WhoIs said "Creation Date: 23-mar-2011", so its possible that this is only a rip off site. Cheers --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  02:04, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. – ultradude25 ( T at 03:16, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hi admins and other readers. We (The Miner and myself) have noticed that we are the only active admins and bureaucrats in the german Wiki. Our German "father" Cba is never on and he don't answer any questions. Is it possible that we are bureaucrats, too? What we need to do to achieve it? Greetings -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  15:09, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * guys? --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  19:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Use of Minepedia
The owners of http://www.minepedia.net have filed a complaint over our use of the term Minepedia. Yes, we used it first, but they bought the domain. For this reason, the logo and sidebar has been changed to reflect the rebranding of this site as the Minecraft Wiki. Please discuss with me any changes before implementing them. Thanks! -- Wynthyst  talk  17:01, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * This is totally stupid of minepedia.net, but ok. -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  17:17, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, what I said... "Minepedia Polska", it's cool name :P Now, we (unfortunately) must rebranding to "Minecraft Wiki", it's small shock [= What minepedia.net owners have to say? They stole the name! I don't know the English/American law, but we have won in court, right? Well... I going to change lot of page...  Lewandowski PL ( T / D #  C / W )  17:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * How stupid. Did they say why they do not wanna cooperate with this wiki? --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  18:12, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It's all about numbers. We are beating them and they don't like it. They don't want to cooperate, because they are our competition. That's kind of how it works on the internet. We will continue to beat them regardless of the name because we have the higher quality site. We need to just focus on keeping it that way. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:16, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm glad this was resolved, the inconsistency was getting to me. – ultradude25 ( T at 00:21, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well. Already clear. However, it would be clever if they did not make such a riot, because there wiki is quite poor of content. Cheers --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  02:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Questions
I would like to know, when the UsabilityInitiative extension will be installed in the Russian section? We are the only section where it is not installed. Also I would like to know why the script for animated crafting grid which based on the jquery library is not working in the Russian section. Thanks. HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  19:33, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I will see about getting the extension installed for you. As for the crafting grid js, there appears to be issues with it on the non English wikis. We are looking into that as well, and hope to have it resolved soon. For now, just use the animated gifs. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:36, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The js animated crafting grid works fine on fr: (fr:Artisanat). If you need help you can contact me on my talk page. – Scaler (t) 20:34, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I been thinking about this, but I don't see any problem. It should just all work fine. I made an optimized version of the template (not uploaded to the English wiki jet, because it will no more support animated gif's). Maybe that will work? Templates can be found at: nl:Sjabloon:Grid/Crafting Table, nl:Sjabloon:Grid/Crafting Square Slide and nl:Sjabloon:Grid/Crafting Square Numbers.--STS(t 19:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comparison of the scripts with French, Dutch and English sections showed that the problem with jquery connect with absence of the UsabilityInitiative extension. Thank you for your willingness to help. HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  23:30, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Wiki.png
Is it true that the file is not protected and everyone can upload a new version? That would be pretty stupid. -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  20:17, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL! woops! I was in a hurry :P so shoot me. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  20:30, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, please give me a gun. You are my boss. ;) -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  20:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL! Not your boss, your advisor :P -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  22:56, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Admins and Bureaucrats on PL
Hi! I think it would be better if I'm in the administrators section, not bureaucrats. That same for xblockmove.  Lewandowski PL ( T / D #  C / W )  22:06, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Then I can make you and admin and not a bcrat, that's fine. Otherwise, these lists need to properly and correctly reflect the status of users based on the publicly available usergroups. Bureaucrats technically are above Admins since Bcrats have the one vital ability to change a user's status. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  22:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * :/ I don't read all user rights, ok, no change. Now is fine :]  Lewandowski PL ( T / D #  C / W )  00:37, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

template:item
I'm a little bit angry, Ultradude25. -.- I thought this page is for talking about big page changes. I spent today two hours to restore all german item pages, because Ultradude25 has changed the template item and someone has deleted the pictures! Includet the german pictures. Thats a big, but known bug. Thank you for that. Next time say something before you chance everything please. -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  17:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Wyn, you said that the only solution is to "restart" the german wiki. Whats the exactly problem if you do this? Can you not backup the articles and import them to the new one? Maybe we must reupload all images but thats not the biggest problem, because in this state we must reupload all images once a mounth. Greets --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  19:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry! I actually moved the images to more appropriate file names, and then half way through remembered, oh bugger this will probably affect the German wiki, so I went over there and tried changing the file names to the new one, but it didn't work. And I didn't really have time to start uploading the files, nor have I got AWB set up for other languages yet.


 * From now on, all image moves and deletions will be done separately from everything else (instead of as a side job while I was changing the templates) so that I actually have time to fix the images on the other languages. – ultradude25 ( T at 23:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Rebranding
Old Minepedia Polska have big problems. First - site name (simple edit localsettings file :). Must be changed. Second - namespace. Anyone can auto change this? Example with a bot? Or how I can change this alone with AutoWikiBrowser? Namespace "Minepedia Polska" should be renamed to "Minecraft Wiki" or "Minecraft Wiki Polska". And possibly from "Minepedia" to "Minecraft Wiki Polska". Thank you in advance :)  Lewandowski PL ( T / D #  C / W )  19:17, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  23:43, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks :D Lewandowski  pl.Wiki Admin   talk  06:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

german unused files
In the German Wiki, we also have many unused files. Many are deleted in the English wiki and now broken. Can I delete the pictures without problems?. -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  17:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

link exchange partners
Hi, I received this message on my mail (administracja@minepedia.pl):
 * ''Hallo,
 * mein Name ist Jane Halford und ich bin die Administratorin von www [d|ot] cn-seafood [do|t] com
 * Momentan bin ich auf der Suche nach Partnern für Linktauschpartnern. Dabei kam ich auf Ihre Seite pl.minecraftwiki.net. pl.minecraftwiki.net scheint mir für einen Linktausch geeignet. Ein Linktausch kann Ihrer Seite nützen. Vielleicht haben Sie daran Interesse. Neben www [d|ot] cn-seafood [do|t] com habe ich noch weitere gute Seiten, von denen ich Ihre Seite verlinken könnte.
 * Mit Vorfreude erwarte ich Ihre Antwort.
 * Jane Halford jane [a|t] cn-seafood [do|t] com  www [d|ot] cn-seafood [do|t] com''
 * Mit Vorfreude erwarte ich Ihre Antwort.
 * Jane Halford jane [a|t] cn-seafood [do|t] com  www [d|ot] cn-seafood [do|t] com''
 * Jane Halford jane [a|t] cn-seafood [do|t] com  www [d|ot] cn-seafood [do|t] com''
 * Jane Halford jane [a|t] cn-seafood [do|t] com  www [d|ot] cn-seafood [do|t] com''

(I changed links above) What do you think about it? IMO - no way [= Lewandowski  pl.Wiki Admin   talk  13:14, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Is she for real? Lol no. Seafood has nothing to do with Minecraft.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  12:45, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I also think so Quatroking. The german is perfect, but it's sounds like a spam message. Should I write to them? -- Oliver Scholz -  de.Wiki Admin  13:08, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

multidelete unused files
Hi, it is possible to delete a couple of unsued file in one process like upload multiple files? Cheers --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  12:11, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No one? --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  20:09, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Seecret Friday or Secret Friday
Hey guys. Why is it called seecret and not secret Update? What is the meaning of the word? --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  20:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It's just Notch's way of writing secret… ^^" – Scaler (t) 22:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, thx. --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin  21:49, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Interwiki links
I think we should work on the interwiki links.

For this I want to use my pywikipedia bot to add or fix interwiki links (initially for -wiki, but I can do it for all wikis if respective directors agreed to it) but there is issues with -wiki keeping the bot to operate on other wikis and -wiki keeping the bot to edit a page on ru-wiki : Unknown Error. API Error code:missingtitle Information:The article you tried to edit doesn't exist
 * the error with the pl-wiki comes from a special character (BOM and Chacter Issues on mediawiki.org) on the api.php or an other edited config file. It is an useless character added by crappy text editors like windows notepad when the file is save in utf8 encoding. You can see it on the api of the pl:-wiki by changing encoding to iso: it shows the "ï»¿" BOM characters at the beginning of the file. The only way to fix it, is to open the file with a good text editor (notepadd++ for example) and without editing the file to save it in utf8-without-bom encoding.
 * the error with the ru-wiki is:
 * but the cause is unidentified.

It would be nice if the Curse staff could do something about this. – Scaler (t) 11:09, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh it would be so, so nice if a bot can do automatticly what i've been doing manually for hours. --Tomato 09:10, 22 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, the IT guys finally found the BOM problem and corrected it. You should be able to use a bot on the Polish wiki now. Thanks for your patience. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  17:23, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

The error with the pl-wiki appeared again. And the problem with the ru-wiki still not solved. I would like to hear the comments of the Curse staff on the subject. HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  12:58, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I will forward the problem to the IT guys. I personally have no access to anything server side. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  13:02, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Word I have from the IT guys is that they have once again resolved this problem (including the API issue) please let me know if it continues to be a problem. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  18:29, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, the error with the ru-wiki have solved, but the error with the pl-wiki still exists. HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  20:12, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

It's working! Thanks a lot. I've created a bot account (R2-D2) on all wikis in order to manage those. Could the respective admins add this account to the bot group?

The bot is not compatible with the languages template. I think we should delete it. – Scaler (t) 13:20, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Umm...Scaler, could you register that bot on the huwiki as well? There are nearly none English pages that have Hungarian interwiki links. (Oh, and maybe at the Spanish wiki too, if you haven't already.) Thanks. Tun  Sha HUN(talk/ contribs) 21:13, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, the bot needs at least one interwiki link (any will do but en-wiki is preferable). I've create the user page of the bot on all wikis (de:Benutzer:R2-D2, en:User:R2-D2, es:Usuario:R2-D2, fr:Utilisateur:R2-D2, hu:Szerkesztő:R2-D2, nl:Gebruiker:R2-D2, pl:Użytkownik:R2-D2, ru:Участник:R2-D2), it would be great to translate the page in respective languages for me (thanks ^^).
 * In order to use the bot I need to delete the languages template (and fix the pages the template is used on). I will do it in the next days if there is no opposition. It will needs to be deleted on other wikis too (de-wiki, hu-wiki and nl-wiki at least). – Scaler (t) 22:23, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Interwiki images
I'm wondering if it's possible to get an extension that lists image links from other languages in the "what links here" section (for the languages that are sharing a database)? So that I'm able to move and delete images without breaking everything... – ultradude25 ( T at 12:21, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

CraftingGrid Slide Problem
Hey guys. There is an problem if i want to use the GridSlide. When i use two "empty" stacks it wont works. Problem can see here User:The_Miner/GridSlide. How can i fix this, or it is possible to change the template? cheers -- The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin ( Disk ) 14:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You're not supposed to put in "empty", you just have to leave the field blank.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  15:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * We have already found a way. The ,, must written at beginning. -- 15:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * This option wont work. And always write double spaces at beginning its not the best way in my oppinion. --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin ( Disk ) 15:57, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * What's wrong with the first example (without "empty"), it's working fine… – Scaler (t) 16:41, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Watch the Hoe and after that the Pickaxe :). -  de.Wiki Admin ( Disk ) 19:38, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks fine... – ultradude25 ( T at 03:20, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The Miner is right, this is desynchronized after a cycle. – Scaler (t) 07:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No. Look carefully ;). --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin ( Disk ) 21:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I see what you mean. Firebug shows me ther's missing 1 empty span, so the problem is anywhere inside the templates. (probably the Template:Grid/Crafting Square Slide) --STS(t 14:12, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Made an new version of this template that should work in my userspace (User:STS/test). Does this fix your problem like you wanted?--STS(t 18:01, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It seems to work fine. As your working on this, is it possible to avoid having this kind of pages in the wanted pages? – Scaler (t) 22:13, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It is posible with a ifexist (than images will only link if the page exists), only 2 things:
 * Is this realy what you want? This whould make many items to no more link to something. Maybe a redirect page whould be a better solution.
 * It will take more time to execute. Since this wiki allows only 30 secconds of execution time and it's already a quite heavy template, this might become a problem on the crafting page.
 * If can make one and just try if the crafting page still works (will make a copy of that page in my userspace too), but then I've got another question: What should be done instead of the linking to a non existing page. I could make a script to sedarch for an existing page (e.g. red wool will become wool#red or just wool), but that will take long execution time. I could let them link to the image (same as no link) or I could try to let it not link to any page (never tried doing that before, but I think it will be posible). --STS(t 09:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Those pages should just be redirects. – ultradude25 ( T at 10:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok. A copy of the crafting page (User:STS/test/craftingPage) seems to work. There the highest nummber of items to be slided is 5. Does anyone know of a page using more than 5 items? If not I will make a version with 5 and opload it to the english template. Than you can all copy it to the foreign-language wikis.--STS(t 10:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh wait, I mis-understood the problem, that whole string (which I thought was individual pages) is actually coming out as one page. The problem is the grid links to "Wooden_Hoe,_Stone_Hoe,_Iron_Hoe,_Gold_Hoe,_Diamond_Hoe" until the javascript loads. Would it be possible to just not have a link at all until the javascript has loaded (link parameter disables if there is a, in the text perhaps?). – ultradude25 ( T at 11:36, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Fixed that (just removed the links). Also optimised the template and fixed slide for mod (only can not be combined with non-mod item for now). Crafting page seems to work with it, shall I opload? --STS(t 12:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * If you're sure it's working. (by the way, it's upload, not opload) – ultradude25 ( T at 16:23, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I thought the old one was working too :D. One important thin about the new one, it no more supports the image parameter. I made it show a message linking to a page CraftingGridWithImage. After the page using the image parameter is show it should apear in Special:WhatLinksHere/CraftingGridWithImage. This might be important for foreign-language wikis, because they may not have converted all crafting grids.--STS(t 18:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The best thing to do is simply add a parameter that will add the template to a category if image has something in it (that way it doesn't disrupt the page with error messages). Then go through and change any page that's in that category. Once they're all done, then you apply the change that breaks the parameter, since now nothing uses it. – ultradude25 ( T at 22:52, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * That's a good idea. Hadn't thought about using category's. I've implement it now, its using Category:Unsupported Grid/Crafting Table use. Also converted al the old grids using image to the new format (most of them where at non-Eglish pages, so just copy page from the English page). On the pages a changed I also added the lng parameter, but not on the other pages. I think the wiki users from that countries should do that them self.--STS(t 08:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Templates shouldn't be translated at all until the translation is completed and is given a subdomain, but I guess it can't hurt to just have it linking to the correct subpage. – ultradude25 ( T at 08:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Global blocks?
Maybe we could add a global blocking users and IP? What do you think? IMO it's good idea.  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  19:08, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Why'd we need that?--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  19:40, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, now I thinked about it. It impossible for global blocking users - we don't have global account ^^ Whathever... it isn't useful?  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  19:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, why'd we need it?--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  22:07, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

new Extensions
Hi. Because some users ask about the "CountEdit" and the "WhosOnline" Extension from the MediaWiki project. So whats your opinion about? Cheers --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin ( Disk ) 11:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Standard language order
Might it be a good idea to have 1 order for links to different languages? Now every page has a different order. It would be more logical to have a standard order.

I suggest to use the order of the English main page: --STS(t 21:35, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * English
 * Nederlands
 * Français
 * Deutsch
 * Polski
 * Русский
 * IMO alphabetically (except English - always on 1. position): 1. English; 2. Deutsch; 3. Français; 4. Nederlands; 5. Polski; 6. Русский  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  22:49, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * pro alphabetical sorting --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin ( Disk ) 22:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)


 * it should be alphabetical. Perhaps just make a quick template for language links so that they always stay standardised. – ultradude25 ( T at 04:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Made a template for it: Template:Languages (just an easy one this time :P). I changed the Main_Page/editcopy to use this template (and my user page, but it has only 1 other language).--STS(t 06:42, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm also for alphabetical listening, but not with English on top.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  14:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * In the german version, we have already sorted on nearly every page links alphabetically. Example: Lehm (Block) -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 15:12, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Why not? English is a base Wiki of Minecraft. Other langs is on second plan.  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  15:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Just because we're the "main" wiki, doesn't make us any better. Every wiki has its own potential and we just shouldn't prefer wiki's over each other.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  16:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * English should be on top because it has the most pages. Every page has an corresponding English page, but not every page has a, for example, German page. If English is on top, user can find ther way more easy, because English is always at the same place. If English won't be on top, user have to search for English every time. --STS(t 17:54, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The English wiki should always be at the top. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  18:23, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I really don't like the use of a template for interwiki links. Bots could manage them really easily if this issue is fixed.
 * About the order, I'm for a strict alphabetic order. Interwiki links are not about which wiki has more pages, but which language the user can read. – Scaler (t) 19:14, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

As for the order, I always think of them in English, so for me it's English, Dutch, French, German, Polish and Russian... that's the order they are in on the English main page. -- Wynthyst  talk  23:41, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * nonono, German start with a D, you cant say you order it after Dutch (N). Dont think english, think interwiki. -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 02:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * lol yesyesyesyesyes... I'm mono-linguistic... I think of things in terms of English.. I'm not saying that's how it has to be, I'm just saying that's why they are in the order they are now :P -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  04:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I like the Interwiki order. And english on top? If you like... -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 14:16, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * That's fine with me :D -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, two agree :) Netherlands? France? Poland? Russia? -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 20:12, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Three agree --STS(t 10:57, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree [=  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  09:35, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Disagree. It should be alphabetical. HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  14:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

IRC-Channel Link
Left side in the menu is a IRC Minecraft link (to minecraftforum.net) but this link is "404 Not Found" :/ Which new link should we take? To #minecraftwiki, #de.minecraftwiki, #minecraft or #minecraftforums? -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 21:09, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Good catch. I personally think people would be looking for the game IRC rather than the wiki IRC.... -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  00:35, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Specially in the "Minecraft" section ^_^". – Scaler (t) 07:47, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Just link it to http://www.minecraftforum.net/irc, that shows all the IRC channels. – ultradude25 ( T at 09:19, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds good, I guess that was the old target. I changed that in the german Wiki. But I miss #de.minecraftwiki :P -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 11:25, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Problem with russian FAQ
Recently there were problems with the page FAQ. Renaming should help, but it is impossible to implement. Any ideas? HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  10:09, 21 May 2011 (UTC) Sorry, I have already renamed. But whether to use the old name? HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  10:21, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Who created it? you should be able to get into it through their contribution list. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  15:05, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It is already renamed : http://ru.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=FAQ&action=history and if you want to edit the page use : http://ru.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=FAQ&action=edit – Scaler (t) 15:20, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Nickname change
Is there any method to change my nickname with changing my edits history, contribution etc? --R0B 21:17, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, all of our wikis have the User Merge extension installed. It allows you to merge the contributions of 2 users, effectively "changing" your username. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  21:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for help. Can you please rename my profile on English wiki to "Teksel"? User:Teksel --R0B 09:40, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Done Teksel :D -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  12:17, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Usage of the Craftin"Images"
Hey, in the Germanwiki there is somebody who wants to implement an app for android. Now he ask about the usage of the crafting images. He wanna use the snipping tool from windows and insert them. So the question i cannot answer: Is this allowed? Did he specify the source? If not, is there any other way to use the wiki images in his app? Cheers--The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin ( Disk ) 18:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * He has to contact dduncan@curse.com regarding use of any conetnt. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  00:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin ( Disk ) 12:16, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Wiki Statistics
If I can believe this statistic, then 0.01% of all Wiki users open the Dutch wiki. Does it make sense to maintain it further? I would like to avoid useless work. -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 23:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Aren't those search query statics? If so I don't think it's reliable, simply because when you search, you search for the original (English) word from Minecraft. When you find the English page users may link to the Dutch version.
 * Maybe the wiki it self has more specific statics about this? If so I coundn't find, but they might be hidden somewhere.
 * BTW: Last month many pages have been translated, all that work whould be wasted if you close the wiki now. --STS(t 19:30, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * We have no plans to close the wiki. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Then I hope I can slap you guys now! Articles such as "ladder" or "kist" aren't translated, so your wiki isn't readable. I don't want does this project fall asleep. -- Oliver Scholz  de.Wiki Admin 20:14, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I know, there is still a lot of work to do, but last month half of the block pages and almost none of the item pages where translated. Now about 2/3 of the block and item pages have been translated. I think that's quite a lot if you realize it's done with about 2,5 man (most of it was done by Tomato and DDieter, I only did some background work). --STS(t 21:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Copyright issues
This is for Dutch/German/French/and Russian wikis.

I need you guys to copy and translate into the appropriate language the following two pages on your respective wikis:


 * MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning
 * MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2

We are having issues with content and coding being copy/pasted on rival sites and we need this copyright information displayed appropriately. Thanks! -- Wynthyst  talk  19:43, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Russian translation have been completed. HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  01:07, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Hek :D -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  03:05, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's already done in the German wiki. -- LukiGamer -  de.Wiki Admin  14:20, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * On the French wiki too. – Scaler (t) 14:27, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent guys thank you :D -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  15:19, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Site notice
I have posted a site notice regarding our recent outage that needs to be translated and posted on each of the language wikis. MediaWiki:Sitenotice Thanks guys! -- Wynthyst  talk  16:51, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Sidebar order
Hey Guys (girls), what do you think about a new order of the sidebar? At the top MC content, below wiki stuff.

first rough example:


 * navigation
 * mainpage|mainpage-description
 * Blocks|Blocks
 * Items|Items
 * Crafting|Crafting Recipes
 * Mobs|Mobs
 * Minecraft Wiki
 * portal-url|portal
 * Minecraft Wiki:Projects|Projects
 * Minecraft Wiki:Wiki Rules|Wiki Rules
 * recentchanges-url|recentchanges
 * randompage-url|randompage
 * Minecraft Wiki:Admin noticeboard|Admin noticeboard
 * Minecraft Wiki:Directors|Directors page
 * helppage|help
 * Minecraft
 * http://www.minecraft.net/|Website
 * http://www.minecraftforum.net/|Community Forums
 * http://notch.tumblr.com/|Developer Blog
 * http://www.facebook.com/minecraft|Minecraft on Facebook
 * http://minecraftmuseum.net|Minecraft Museum
 * http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp|Server List
 * http://www.minecraftforum.net/page.php?p=irc|IRC
 * http://minecraftskins.com|Minecraft Skins
 * SEARCH
 * TOOLBOX
 * LANGUAGES

It should be translated into all languages​​. Opinions please! -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">de.Wiki Admin 17:17, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, it's too cumbersome. HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  17:37, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Isn't the current sidebar fine as it is? The layout suggested isn't really to appealing to me.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  22:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It was a first proposal, a suggestion of thinking. More opinions? -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">de.Wiki Admin 22:35, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Offline en.Wiki
Hi! This is official or someone has agreed to this? prog-grinde,blogspot,com/p/offline-wiki,html (I remove http, and replace dot with ,)  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  16:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Localization
From: ruWiki directors team

To: International Wiki directors team

 P E T I T I O N  We want to refer to the international Wiki directors team with the request to consider our proposal. It's goal is to add to the Minecraft support of the non-latin alphabet as well as full multilingual localizations of the game. Since the first version of the game, which supported multiplayer mode, players, who used non-Latin characters for speaking via in-game text chat, had difficulties. Because the game supports only Latin characters, this players have to improvise. Those, who have knowledge of English can communicate freely in the game chat. But others have to use method of transliteration. This makes communication between players very hard so the multiplayer gameplay for them is more tedious. We offer to develop a variety of localizations for Minecraft by our Wiki community. In this case, the main work should be done by non-English Wikis and the creators of the game. From our side, we are ready to create Russian localization for the game, but before that we need to make sure that our idea will be approved by the community and developers. It will be great, if the official version of the game will contain different language packs, created as part of this project. We believe that our community is the most "official" of other Minecraft fan-communities. This project should significantly improve the comfort of the game for people of different nationalities, which are occupy a fairly large percentage of Minecraft gaming community. This Wiki has seven language sections except English. We have access to the 7 languages ​​of the world, it's more than any other fan-made Minecraft internet resources. We ask all this Wiki community to support our initiative and bring it to the developers team. In other words, we ask you to chat with developers and tell them about this project. We do not want to communicate with them directly, because the petition from one section of this Wiki community has little chance of being approved by the developers. We want our proposal came from the entire community, not just from its Russian section. Directors of ruWiki June 24th, 2011
 * Description:
 * Proposal:
 * Benefit:
 * Request:
 * My vote: Yes! In game also missing polish diacritics - ę, ó, ą, ś, ł, ż, ź, ć, ń. Whole Polish community would appreciate it! If Mojang add to game all special char, including cyrillic, whole WORLD community would appreciate it!  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  16:43, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know whether Minecraft supports Hungarian characters (á, é, ű, ú, ő, ó, ü, ö, í), but if it doesn't, I strongly support this. Tun  Sha HUN(talk/ contribs) 16:56, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to help Mojang AB with a Dutch translation, however, I believe that most strings have already been translated by the forums! This topic lists existing translations (its just one file with strings, adding multiple language to Minecraft should be easy as hell) for just the majority of languages used at the moment.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  17:11, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all your support. We hope that this project will be approved by other language parts. Quatroking, yes we knew that there are a lot of fan-made localizations of the game. But we think that using it for this project is not right. First of all, Russian localization from that link which you get us does not deserve to be official translation. As we do official localization, quality of it have to be perfect. Secondly, if we will use them we may disturb the copyright of this localizations. Of course, we can't order others but we would make Russian localization only by ourselves. HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  17:49, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Polish translation promoted and supported by pl.Wiki it's here: minecraftforum.net.  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  19:06, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * We see, that the discussion is stopped for now. We are glad, that 3 language sections support this. So we offer to move to the next stage. We offer to write a collective petition to the developers team about this project right here on this page. What do you think about that? --Teksel -  ru.Wiki Admin  21:42, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I think a Minecraft translation from the wiki is a great idea, but is it meant to be a translation from the community or from some selected group? In other words: are the language files published on a page everyone can edit, or are they published on the minecraft forums? --STS(t 19:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * We think, that most right decision will to chose group of people, who will develop the localization and modify it with every game update. This group should be the people from wiki. We think, that there are no need to spread this project among Minecraft forum. Just the wiki community. --Teksel -  ru.Wiki Admin  16:12, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

/style
I changed the german /style template, now we can have an picture at right and left corner. (useful for the European Games Award) Just a info. -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">de.Wiki Admin 14:38, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Meta Descriptions
Hey all:D I have added an extension to all of the language wikis that will automatically pull meta descriptions from the page content, or it can be overridden with various metadesc tags. You will see that I have added one to the English mainpage, and we would like this translated an applied to each wiki

Minecraft Wiki is a complete resource for Minecraft, including gameplay, blocks, crafting, running a server, events, mods, texture packs.

You can get more information about the extension here. This is in an attempt to continue to optimize our Search Engine results and keep us on top!

Thanks for all your continued hard work! -- Wynthyst  talk  21:40, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

MineCon 2011
Please add a news link as well as a left nav link to http://minecon.mojang.com Thanks! -- Wynthyst  talk  17:19, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

New Admin for the English wiki
I'd like to welcome Miclee to the ranks of admins on the English wiki :D -- Wynthyst  talk  00:03, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

External Link Target
Hi guys, girls and animals from England, the Netherlands and Germany... I think it would be good if we could include that. So we can link to other pages, but the wiki is still open. Opposing opinions? -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">de.Wiki Admin 16:34, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Interesting. IMO - very good and useful idea.  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  21:23, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * More opinions (especially from the aforementioned people) would help. -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">de.Wiki Admin 17:26, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds interesting and useful. Pro this extension. Cheers --The Miner -  de.Wiki Admin ( Disk ) 17:32, 23 August 2011 (UTC)