Minecraft Wiki talk:Directors

Style
Ultradude25 made a pretty cool skin for the wiki, please try it out and give your opinion about it.


 * Two serious errors are illustrated by screenshots. It is necessary to solve the problem of the search bar and the problem with the top navigation menu. Also there is an opinion that the inscription “Minecraft Wiki” is difficult to read at the current background.
 * Therefore, while this design has these problems we are voting against it. HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  18:03, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * What browser are you using? That doesn't happen on Firefox, Chrome or IE9 (look at the gallery at the top to see how the skin should be). The logo is probably just the normal logo overwriting the skin's one. I can't do anything about that until we can overwrite the original logo (or $wgLogo is fixed), which will happen when the skin is officially applied. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 18:08, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Firefox 11.0 HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  18:12, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Firefox 11.0 picture -- Oliver Scholz  Wiki Admin 18:31, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I've tested on Firefox 11, Chrome 14, IE 9-5.5 and just now, Opera 11.6 and they don't have those problems (although IE 6 and 5.5 have some minor rendering issues, but that would be impossible to fix). Therefor this appears to be a problem on your end; your font looks bigger so maybe you're overwriting the wiki's font/font-size? I've tested zooming in Firefox as well, and it works fine. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 18:34, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * We are still waiting for approvals? -- Oliver Scholz  Wiki Admin 12:58, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Looking back through the page, these are the current results:
 * - -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  (assuming HEKP0H fixed his issue) -  – ultradude25  ( T &#124; C ) at 02:17, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * br, es & ja work without administrators. hu, ko doesn't respond. -- Oliver Scholz  Wiki Admin 18:30, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, guys, am I the only one who doesnt know how to implement this skin? :D Icguy 06:02, 18 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Copy the text at the top of this section into your usercss, e.g. User:Icguy/vector.css. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 06:53, 18 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Yay, thanks! It looks cool, however i need to get used to it. I'd love to see it on the Hungarian wiki too. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Icguy (Talk&#124;Contribs) 07:25, 18 April 2012 (UTC). Please sign your posts with

I can't edit English director's page, but the skin looks great, works fine. -- Alswo9628  the admin (Talk)  2012년 4월 18일 (수) 00:00 (UTC)
 * Copied Alswo's text.
 * (no admin) - -  (no admin) -  -  -  (no admin) -  -  -  -  -   --  Oliver Scholz  Wiki Admin 14:43, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Search bar doesn't change. --Alswo9628 KOR Admin 03:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The normal search bar is unstylable. You have to use the compact search bar. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 06:01, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Now it looks much better :D --Alswo9628 KOR Admin 07:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I've got one tiny problem with the new skin. Normally, I could see when I was logged in when I had the new skin. Now I can't anymore. :). It will always look the same. Ow well, things we do for the visitors ;). Good job. - CrazyBliep   NL Admin  08:07, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I have requested a change for those wikis currently not using the compact search bar. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  03:43, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Language wikis down
Several of the language wikis are currently down. This is being addressed by our tech team and we expect everything to be back up very soon. -- Wynthyst  talk  03:45, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This should be resolved now. Please let me know if there are still problems. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  04:36, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

MC logo at our mainpage
At the German "editcopy" page someone has inserted the Minecraft logo into the text. What do you think? A good idea? -- Oliver Scholz  Wiki Admin 21:12, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


 * It needs alt text for readers who view the wiki with images disabled (whether by choice, or because they are unable to view images - for instance, readers using a screen reader). Other than that, it's an interesting idea. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Maybe a caption is the solution?: Mclogo.png --  Oliver Scholz  Wiki Admin 19:41, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's what I was talking about. =) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I post the same question at our Community portal, maybe some users also write opinions. -- Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 16:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Wiki Update
Greetings! I'm please to tell you all that the much awaited upgrade to 1.18.1 is happening tomorrow. There should be no downtime, just a short period where the wikis will be read-only. We will start with the English one and move through all of the language wikis until we are done. Please place an appropriate site notice for your communities. Thanks! -- Wynthyst  talk  02:00, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Tomorrow or today? Because the site notice you placed says 8 march (that means today), but your are talking about tomorrow here... --STS(t 15:30, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, any date/time would be in US CST. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  18:31, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Bugs with MediaWiki 1.18.1
On french wiki there is those "bugs": – Scaler (t) 20:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * search bar with the default vector "go/search" button.
 * the curse icon next to the username doesn't load ("GET http://fr.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/W/extensions/Curse/Icons/Flame.png [HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found 407ms]"). css problem fixed front end.-- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  14:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * left menu sections are not collapsible.
 * when blocking an IP the last option is "<ipb-hardblock>".
 * on french and english wiki: html code in the recent changes page options when starting from a date : "&amp;lt;namespace_association&amp;gt;" it should be "Associated namespace". Same for the tooltips: "&amp;lt;tooltip-namespace_association&amp;gt;" instead of "Check this box to also include the talk or subject namespace associated with the selected namespace".

- CrazyBliep  (NL Admin) 00:17, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Some wikis doesn't support the setting "Use enhanced recent changes (requires JavaScript)". It wouldn't fold the changes in one. I checked which wiki's got the css colapse problem. It's only the Dutch, German and English one.
 * Special:RecentChanges
 * de:Spezial:Letzte_%C3%84nderungen
 * nl:Speciaal:RecenteWijzigingen
 * Confirmed on the English wiki, changes won't fold.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  17:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * On the page Special:SpecialPages under the topic Users and rights have the words, &lt;blocklist&gt; and &lt;passwordreset&gt;. - CrazyBliep  (NL Admin) 16:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * mw-collapsible won't collapse.


 * I don't think this is a conflict with the external collapsible script, that still works fine. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 10:28, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I am working on a list of "fixes" post upgrade. I have asked for the svg issue to be looked into, and I need a specific list of the wikis this is not working on. I hope to have all of the bugs worked out by the end of the week, but remember we are doing this on every wiki on the network. -- Wynthyst  talk  06:11, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

svg and ogg files should now be available on all wikis, account creation on Korean wiki is fixed, uploading images on Dutch wiki should be fine (I had no problems with it). Ultra, I need examples of where mw-collapse doesn't work to show Tim. -- Wynthyst  talk  14:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

the mw-collapse issue has to be investigated further, it might be tied to the enhanced recent changes problem, so expect neither to be fixed immediately. -- Wynthyst  talk  14:58, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * mw-collapse doesn't work anywhere. Try any of the examples in mediawiki's manual. It does everything, but add the style to the text that needs collapsing, which means nothing actually happens.
 * Here's mediawiki's example, expanded and collapsed. And here's the same example here, expanded and collapsed.


 * Also, that thing with the text being undefined seems to happen in other places too, but only sometimes. If I keep reloading a page, it'll keep toggling between the text being correct and the text being undefined.
 * Some examples: Correct protect button text, wrong protect button text. Correct block page text, wrong block page text. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 15:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The last examples of your top tabs is something that is due to your own personal changes (I use the drop down menu that is standard in vector) so I'm assuming that's got to do with the css stuff. Also, when I ask for examples of how it's not working, I don't mean links to external wikis, I mean places (even your sandbox) where you can demonstrate that it's not working HERE. (sometimes you make me just want to bang my head on my desk....) -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  15:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The tabs are unrelated, all they do is move the menu into tabs, the same undefined text happens with the menu. And I don't know what you're talking about, there's no external wiki involved? – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 15:57, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * This is what Wyn wants: a case in point of mw-collapsible not working on minecraftwiki ^^ – Scaler (t) 16:51, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Progress! mw-collapsible is almost working, however the collapse button throws an error and won't collapse. However expanding data that is collapsed on page load works correctly, it's just the collapse button that won't work. Interestingly though, everything works fine in the watchlist, which seems to use mw-collapsible too.

The error whenever you click the collapse button is: <tt>data.change is undefined on line 16</tt> – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 05:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Fix for sortable tables
I have found how why sortable tables isn't working. It seems Curse is manually including jquery.min.css (it looks like it is being used for the twitter and forum feeds in the sidebar), which as far as I'm aware is already included with mediawiki. By removing this, sortable tables load again.

If you want to fix it right now on the client side, and you have adblock, you can add this as a blocking rule: <tt> |http://www.minecraftwiki.net/skins/common/jquery.min.js?* </tt> You can probably do this from Window's HOSTS file too, if you don't have adblock. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 18:15, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Fix for collapsible tables
data.change[data.change.length] = { $item: $that, text: "" + expandtext }; By removing this line, which is producing an 'undefined' error (thus causing the whole script to stop), it will collapse, but won't expand again (as this line was used to set the expand button).

if ( data.toggles ) { data.toggles = data.toggles.concat (jQuery.makeArray( $that ) ); [data.change etc..] } else { However, by also getting rid of the rest of that if statement (and leaving what it would do otherwise) it seems to then allow it to function normally (including all the fancy fading and sliding animations). I did only do some basic tests though (on Firefox), but it's better than it not working at all, right?

If you want to fix it client side, you can add this to your vector.js: // User:Ultradude25/jQuery.makeCollapsibleHotfix.js mw.loader.load('http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=User:Ultradude25/jQuery.makeCollapsibleHotfix.js&action=raw&ctype=text/css'); Note that you can't use importScript for this, as they are loaded at the bottom of the page, which isn't soon enough, and mw.loader.load only supports external links. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 18:16, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Grid templates
I made a new javascript for the Grid/... templates. You can see the result on on the Dutch crafting page. Maybe other wikis want to update there templates to this version? The new JavaScript and css can be found on the Dutch MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css. Please let me know what you like/dislike about it. --STS(t 13:50, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I like the idea of pausing, although I don't think you actually need to say pause on it, that should be obvious. One problem is it un-pauses again when you right-click on it and hover over the context menu. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 19:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * What browser are you using? I used google chrome and I don't seem to have that problem. --STS(t 22:42, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems to be a bug specific to Firefox, as it doesn't happen in IE too. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 01:41, 19 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I could not find a good solution for this. The only thing I can do is turning off the context menu for the crafting table, but I don't know if that is what you want.--STS(t 20:37, 21 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Nah that would be bad. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 04:53, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Article count
How does the " Special:Statistics| " works? Because on the Chinese Wiki, it says we only have 114 pages, but clearly we have more than that, so I want to know how does it count the pages?---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 20:22, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Manual:Article count -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 20:25, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks.---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 20:59, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

OggHandler
The Chinese Wiki doesn't have the extension "OggHandler", so on the Music discs (Chinese) page the music cannot be played right on the browser.---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 23:06, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I will request it. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  20:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

BlockCSS
In future I think we get some problems with the Block CSS. New blocks in Minecraft will occupy our used space. Do we want to split the file? -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 20:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not a professional in this, but can't we just make the BlockCSS.png bigger? Because I think spliting it will create many more probems.---Powup333 (ZH Admin) 23:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah that would work, but it'll require all the positions to be changed. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 01:21, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You could just create new rows and keep the old ones? That way no positions needs to be changed, I think. - CrazyBliep   NL Admin  08:16, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The idea is to move all modified images outside of the area the minecraft image takes up, so that none of Mojang's, or our textures have to be moved when those slots are used up. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 08:44, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Something like this ? --  <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 10:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * No they should be the same file, something like this: – ultradude25  ( T &#124; C ) at 11:19, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah agree, much better. But the name is... well :) -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 11:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Only if you have a dirty mind. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 11:27, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * So, do we want to implement this? (en, de and nl at the same time) -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 19:56, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, this will solve all the problems, right? But maybe we can update it with the new image in the new snapshot all the same time? P.S. you missed zh, we will update it too.---Powup333  ZH Admin  22:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * But zh doesn't use en's image database so you're updated separately. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 01:46, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * :) -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 19:31, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sitenotice
The MediaWiki:Sitenotice doesn't seems to work properly on Chinese Wiki, the message itself is not centered on the page and the "dismiss" button is garbled.---Powup333  ZH Admin  15:38, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Help!
The Chinese Wiki is now having a BIG problem! All the templates doesn't seems to be working! Please help us!---Powup333  ZH Admin  00:08, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * This is a very interesting error you're having. Even magic words aren't working correctly, and are trying to be parsed as templates.
 * The only thing I can think that could be the cause is the Asirra extension. From what I've been told, it doesn't work on non-English wikis. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 01:38, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually it seems Asirra has been installed on all the wikis and is working correctly, so something else is causing this. – ultradude25 ( T &#124; C ) at 02:57, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I have post a message on the Sitenotice and Anonnotice to told people to temporarily stop editing the wiki. From the recent changes page, I don't see any edit that will cause this problem, although there are some wiki attacks yesterday, but they should all be undone already...—Powup333  ZH Admin  13:50, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It has been fixed! —Powup333  ZH Admin  19:15, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * This was an internal server problem. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  03:39, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Sidebar additions
I've added a useful pages section to our sidebar (as well as a few other minor changes to links/names), other languages might want to translate and add that too, it really helps navigation.

Additionally, I stumbled upon how to add tooltips to custom items on the sidebar, you just use the name of the item on the sidebar (for example "Redstone circuits"), then you add the name (replacing spaces with -) to the end of this page name: "MediaWiki:Tooltip-n-" (for our example: "MediaWiki:Tooltip-n-Redstone-circuits") Whatever you add to that page will be the tooltip when you hover over the sidebar item. Note that the names are case sensitive, and also if you change the name of something on the sidebar, you'll have to move the tooltip page associated with it to the new name.

I've added some tooltips to most of the items on there, other languages might want to translate and add these too. –ultradude25 (T&#124;C) at 10:57, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Page corruption
Same issue as here on french wiki: Artisanat. Could you fix it, please ^^. – Scaler (t) 11:00, 2 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Just delete and undelete the page. –ultradude25 (T&#124;C) at 11:29, 2 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Done, thanks. – Scaler (t) 12:52, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

thumbnail
Our software is a little bit crazy. Sometimes he forgets where he save some images. A re-saving is bad a solution. An example: click ore click. -- <font color="#008B8B">Oliver Scholz  <font color="#77B33D">Wiki Admin 01:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

About blocking wiki attacks
Every single month or so, there seems to be 2 or 3 days where there are attacks that get pass and damaging a lot of our pages, not only it is time consuming for us to undo their edits, it also uses a lot of edits. The Chinese wiki Bureaucrat, Craft Lawrence, and I were trying to make IP users unable to edit by half protecting all pages temporarily, but we can't find a way to do that in one edit yet. I am here to seek help and wanted to know if other administrators have any good ideas we could use to make the situation better. —Powup333  ZH Admin  15:14, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If you want me to, I could look into your abuse filters and help out a bit with keeping things accurate (the version template for example). It's not too hard to recognize major amounts of vandalism so I figure it shouldn't be too hard.--Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  19:49, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * that would help a lot.—Powup333  ZH Admin  22:43, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Redirect
Why the ru.wiki redirects to the minecraftforum.net? HEKP0H -  ru.Wiki Admin  17:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

class collapsible
The collapsible class doesn't seem to work in the Chinese Wiki.—Powup333  ZH Admin  10:16, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Probably because Hzy980512 removed the JavaScript for it... –ultradude25 (T&#124;C) at 11:13, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, I figured it out, it is because we don't have MediaWiki:CollapsibleTables.js—Powup333  ZH Admin  08:55, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd recommend having that in your main js file instead of split like we do. It'll be faster, due to it being minified and not having to open an extra HTTP connection. We only still have it split because I keep putting it off... (and I was expecting mw-collapsible to be working ages ago) –ultradude25 (T&#124;C) at 09:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice.—Powup333  ZH Admin  14:41, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Grid Template crash?
Hi! On pl.MCWiki, the Grid Template was stopped working last Friday (or Saturday?). Recently*, no one was edited the template or any related template. Now, Crafting page is totaly disaster! (* - I made some edits after this crash). IMHO someone changed something in the source (template MediaWiki). Example, we don't have jQuery implemented, but it must be for Grid animations. I request it on PivotTracer, but is it still used??  Lewandowski pl.Wiki Admin   talk  11:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * jQuery is built in to MediaWiki now, and HtmlTidy was enabled on Friday. I believe the English wiki is working on cleaning up the Crafting grid template. I would check with Ultradude to see if this is what is causing the problem on the Polish wiki. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  11:51, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * We had some divs inside spans, which aren't allowed so HTMLTidy pulls them outside the spans (also empty tags get deleted, so in cases where you want empty tags, you need to put something in them, like &amp;nbsp;), so most of the styling rules no longer apply to it, and it looks all broken. You just need to change any divs that are inside spans to spans, and set the styling to display: block. Or just copy the templates over, it was already all fixed here when HTMLTidy was enabled. –ultradude25 (T&#124;C) at 13:48, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Italian Wiki
Hello, admins!

You must add the link http://it.minecraftwiki.net/$1 in the table interwiki, in all wikis. Wynthyst said: The italian wiki will need to be added to each of the interwiki link tables

And yes, this is for the "In other languages" part on the navigation bar.

Spanish Wiki is done; don't worry.

Thanks! Kingpowl~ ''' es. Wiki Admin ''' (talk) 16:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Chinese Wiki registration problems
It's been reported lately that there are some issues for users in P.R.China, where they experience difficulties or simply cannot register.

It's keeping many potential contributors from participating in the Chinese wiki.

Is Wiki being blocked by the GFW, or it's just a technical issue about the CAPTCHA?

Anyways, can anyone verify this and help us to solve this problem? Thanks a lot!

Craft_Lawrence talk ZH Wiki Bureaucrat 16:34, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure what the GFW is, and we have had some issues with the captcha, but those generally resolve themselves if they just keep trying. I will ask our Tech team to look into it. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  23:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * GFW is the abbreviation for "Great Fire Wall" of P.R.China, the largest internet censorship that exists. Our readers and contributors are mainly from mainland China, it's gonna be a big problem if the Wiki is blocked.... I live in Canada so really can't test it out myself, but I'll keep on tracking this issue. Thanks for your help! Craft_Lawrence talk ZH Wiki Bureaucrat 15:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!
Curse would like to recognize the work and dedication of the wiki community administrators with a token of our thanks. To do that, we need mailing information. Anyone wishing to participate, and receive our thank you gift should email me at wynthyst@gmail.com with your username, and real world mailing information. -- Wynthyst  talk  23:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Just as long as it's not an assassin sent to eliminate me... =D 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:43, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The assassins won't fit in the mailbox. :/ Eyes 01:11, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm finally getting a Ferrari! woop! :U --<font color="blue" style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px #00FF00;"><font color="Black">Kizzycocoa 16:38, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Info has been sent. Thanks! --Quatroking -  MCWiki Administrator  16:54, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Does the Chinese wiki community count too? We would be soooo happy to know our effort has not gone unnoticed :D. Craft_Lawrence talk ZH Wiki Bureaucrat 15:41, 21 October 2012 (UTC)