Template talk:Protected

Using this template
It seems like this template is transcluded on very few pages, and I'm not quite clear when it should be used. Should it be used on any page in the main namespace that's has any kind of protected level (obviously not the main page)? Any fully-protected page in certain namespaces? Right now, it seems to just be scattered across a few random protected pages in the article namespace. Personally, I would support adding something to signal that a page is protected, for all pages in the main namespace of any level, and possibly even other namespaces, although this may be confusing for templates and such.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 13:51, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe we should just get rid of the template? Users who edit or try to edit any protected page get far more information about the status of its protection than this template provides. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 14:06, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I do think it would be nice to have an easy way to see that a page has been protected and what level of protected it is without having to edit it. Also, for a page that one doesn't have permission to edit, viewing the source doesn't show the level of the protection - one would have to view the protection log. However, I'm not sure that a big yellow message box is the best way to convey that a page is protected. Maybe it would be better to do what Wikipedia does and just have a small lock or something similar in the top right corner of the page? Suggestions are welcome here.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 14:10, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * page protection status as &lt;indicator&gt;s. They're far less obtrusive than navboxes. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 14:18, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * What kind of indicator are you thinking?-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 14:23, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Locks, same as on Wikipedia. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 14:35, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess I'll start testing in my sandbox.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 14:48, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

AttemptToCallNill@undefined Take a look at my sandbox. How do you think that looks? Obviously I'm going to replace "the bla bla bla category" with something else, that's just a placeholder. I would also like to add "Category:Semi-protected pages," Category:Director-protected pages," and "Category:Fully protected pages" as needed. I would probably definitely want the opinions of other users before moving it to the template namespace, though.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 15:56, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Corrected your category titles. Also, a more descriptive tooltip would be really helpful. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 16:09, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Looked at your code. I guess I'll draft my own version. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 16:10, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * What exactly do you mean by more descriptive tooltip? I had "this page is [x] protected so that only [y] users can edit it" as the span title.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 16:11, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, wait - for some reason it isn't working though, as you can see from User:Madminecrafter12/sandbox 2. The file's link target is taking priority over the span title. When the span title is "This page is semi-protected so that only registered users can edit it," it instead shows up as "MCW:Autoconfirmed users," as that's the file link. I'm not sure how to fix that though.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 16:13, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, an indicator tag is a thing! Yeah, yours is definitely simpler and better. We should go with that one.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 16:16, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * User:AttemptToCallNil/Alpha – see source code. That's how I thought it would be implemented.
 * And "fully protected" shouldn't be hyphenated. --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 16:17, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * - see what I've done with my sandbox now. It's similar to how it was before, but I've incorporated many of your ideas and simplifications into it. Also, does anybody else have any opinions on this? If so, please reply.-- Madminecrafter12 Orange Glazed Terracotta.png to meLight Blue Glazed Terracotta.png 23:08, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You're adding the category even though it says you're not intending to...
 * Also, I'd really like to see others' opinions on this. I'm sure Majr is going to tell me something new about &lt;indicator&gt;s which makes them completely unusable on this wiki... --AttemptToCallNil (report bug, view backtrace) 09:49, 28 May 2018 (UTC)